Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Who said: "We have met the enemy..."

2 views
Skip to first unread message

Jeffrey L. Eglen

unread,
Aug 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/6/96
to

Who said: "We have met the enemy and he is us."?

Thanks

liblanc1

unread,
Aug 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/6/96
to

We have met the enemy and he is us.

Walt Kelly, the words of Pogo in an Earth Day, 1971, cartoon
strip, _The Best of Pogo,_ ed. Mrs. Walt Kelly and Bill Crouch, Jr., p.
163 (1982).
This succinct expression was derived from a sentence in the
Foreword of an earlier publication, _The Pogo Papers_ (1953): "Resolve
then, that on this very ground, with small flags waving and tinny blasts
on tiny trumpets, we shall meet the enemy, and not only may he be ours,
he may be us."

Bill Thomas and _Respectfully Quoted_ Pogo was an opossum
libl...@cerfnet.com in Kelly's satirical
comic strip _Pogo_

Elizabeth B. Thomsen

unread,
Aug 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/7/96
to

This is the most famous quote from the classic comic Pogo.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Elizabeth B. Thomsen | Listowner : Trollope, Bronte, Benson
Library Management Associates | Boston-book, Boston-cares
lib...@world.std.com |
author of "Reference and Collection Development on the Internet"
Neal-Schuman Publishers, Inc. July, 1996
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------


Leslie Paul Davies

unread,
Aug 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/7/96
to

[Pogo?]

--
Paul W2SYF/4 Ft Lauderdale
"Heisenberg may have slept here... "
Leslie Paul Davies
lpda...@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us


Elizabeth B. Thomsen

unread,
Aug 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/7/96
to

To add to my own previous message-- Pogo was by Walt Kelly, and the quote
was a brilliant play on Oliver Perry's "We have met the enemy and they
are ours."

More and more, the Pogo version seems true--

Elizabeth Thomsen

George F. Hardy

unread,
Aug 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/7/96
to

In article <DvqwB...@world.std.com>, lib...@world.std.com (Elizabeth B. Thomsen) says:
>
>This is the most famous quote from the classic comic Pogo.

Without knowing the rest of the quote, it is not possible to
know whether Pogo or Perry is the correct answer.

GFH


Ellis Golub

unread,
Aug 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/7/96
to

The paraphrase appeared in the comic strip, Pogo, uttered by the character Pogo
in the late sixties, early seventies. I'm blocking on the cartoonist.. Walter
???


Ellis

leswin laubscher

unread,
Aug 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/8/96
to

In article <3207C9...@indy.net>, "Jeffrey L. Eglen" <jle...@indy.net>
wrote:

> Who said: "We have met the enemy and he is us."?
>
> Thanks

The character (not person) who said this was Pogo, in the famous cartoon
strip popular sometime around the 20s (I think). To be honest, I don't
know if the quote is in reference to the 1st or the 2nd World War, but I
know it refers to one of them.

Dallas K. Cecil

unread,
Aug 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/9/96
to

LName FName
Quote
Kelley Walt

We have met the enemy and he is us.

Jeffrey L. Eglen <jle...@indy.net> wrote in article
<3207C9...@indy.net>...

Becky Wurm Clark

unread,
Aug 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/9/96
to

Jeffrey L. Eglen (jle...@indy.net) wrote:
: Who said: "We have met the enemy and he is us."?

This is attributed to Walt Kelly, as used in his POGO comic strip.
--
+-- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- --+
| Becky Wurm Clark "'If we bring a little joy |
| Reference Department into your humdrum lives, |
| Lincoln City Libraries it makes us feel as if |
| Lincoln NE USA our hard work |
| bwu...@rand.lcl.lib.ne.us ain't been in vain for nothin'.'" |
| --- - Lina Lamont (Jean Hagen) |
| 71242...@compuserve.com "Singin' In The Rain", MGM, 1952 |
+-- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- --+

Robert L. Bulfin

unread,
Aug 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/12/96
to

In article <llaubsch-0...@lab6.sesp.nwu.edu>, llau...@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (leswin laubscher) writes:
> In article <3207C9...@indy.net>, "Jeffrey L. Eglen" <jle...@indy.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Who said: "We have met the enemy and he is us."?
> >
> > Thanks
>
> The character (not person) who said this was Pogo, in the famous cartoon
> strip popular sometime around the 20s (I think). To be honest, I don't
> know if the quote is in reference to the 1st or the 2nd World War, but I
> know it refers to one of them.

Whoa! I read Pogo religiously, and i am not that old. The strip was very popular
in the 1950s and 1960s. If i remember correctly, the "I have met .." quote
was about the environment.

bob

George F. Hardy

unread,
Aug 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/13/96
to

In article <4unuom$i...@ultranews.duc.auburn.edu>, bul...@eng.auburn.edu (Robert L. Bulfin) says:
>> > Who said: "We have met the enemy and he is us."?

>I read Pogo religiously, and i am not that old. The strip was

>very popular in the 1950s and 1960s. If i remember correctly,
>the "I have met .." quote was about the environment.


It was. And your point is?

GFH


Bill Gascoyne

unread,
Aug 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/14/96
to

In article i...@ultranews.duc.auburn.edu, bul...@eng.auburn.edu (Robert L. Bulfin) writes:
>In article <llaubsch-0...@lab6.sesp.nwu.edu>, llau...@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (leswin laubscher) writes:
>> In article <3207C9...@indy.net>, "Jeffrey L. Eglen" <jle...@indy.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Who said: "We have met the enemy and he is us."?
>> >
[snip]
>> The character (not person) who said this was Pogo, in the famous cartoon
>> strip popular sometime around the 20s (I think). To be honest, I don't
>> know if the quote is in reference to the 1st or the 2nd World War, but I
>> know it refers to one of them.
>
>Whoa! I read Pogo religiously, and i am not that old. The strip was very popular
>in the 1950s and 1960s. If i remember correctly, the "I have met .." quote
>was about the environment.
>

The original, "We have met the enemy and they are ours," is a quotation from
one of the World Wars. The Pogo version, "We have met the enemy and they is us,"
was indeed related to the environment.

---

Bill Gascoyne ----- Speak for them?
LSI Logic Corp. LSI |LOGIC| They hardly even
1501 McCarthy Blvd. | | listen to me!
MS E-197 -----
Milpitas, CA 95035 LSI addr: gascan@dcst16 internet: gas...@lsil.com

David J. Loftus

unread,
Aug 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/15/96
to

George F. Hardy (geo...@www.comet.chv.va.us) wrote:

: In article <4unuom$i...@ultranews.duc.auburn.edu>, bul...@eng.auburn.edu (Robert L. Bulfin) says:
: >> > Who said: "We have met the enemy and he is us."?

: >I read Pogo religiously, and i am not that old. The strip was

: >very popular in the 1950s and 1960s. If i remember correctly,
: >the "I have met .." quote was about the environment.

: It was. And your point is?

That the line did NOT date from the 20s or refer to one of the world
wars. Geez, folks, pay attention!

George F. Hardy

unread,
Aug 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/16/96
to

Perry was the War of 1812.

GFH


Laura J Valentine

unread,
Aug 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/16/96
to

Excerpts from netnews.alt.quotations: 16-Aug-96 Re: Who said: "We have
met .. by George F. Ha...@www.come
> >That the line did NOT date from the 20s or refer to one of the world
> >wars.
>
> Perry was the War of 1812.

Yes! Thank you. I couldn't remember if it was the American Revolution,
or the French & Indian War, or the War of 1812. I get confused with all
these wars!

--laura

-<+>- fie...@cmu.edu -=-=- http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~jacquez/ -<+>-
Cthulhu is the Patron Saint of Pittsburgh... -=- "Each of us, at some time in
our lives, turns to someone, a father, a brother, a God and asks, 'Why am I
here? What was I meant to be?'" --Spock -=- Alpha Phi Omega, Kappa Chapter.


Laura J Valentine

unread,
Aug 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/16/96
to

Excerpts from netnews.alt.quotations: 15-Aug-96 Re: Who said: "We have
met .. by David J. Loftus@netcom.c
> That the line did NOT date from the 20s or refer to one of the world
> wars. Geez, folks, pay attention!

But it does--or even earlier. Learned it in US History in high school.

The Hobgoblin of the Net

unread,
Aug 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/17/96
to

In <4ustjr$6...@lsi.lsil.com>, gas...@xvnews.unconfigured.domain wrote:
> In i...@ultranews.duc.auburn.edu, bul...@eng.auburn.edu writes:
> > In <llaubsch-0...@lab6.sesp>, llau...@casbah.acns.nwu.edu writes:

> >> In <3207C9...@indy.net>, jle...@indy.net wrote:
> >>
> >> > Who said: "We have met the enemy and he is us."?
>
> >> The character (not person) who said this was Pogo, in the famous cartoon
> >> strip popular sometime around the 20s (I think). To be honest, I don't
> >> know if the quote is in reference to the 1st or the 2nd World War, but I
> >> know it refers to one of them.
>
> The original, "We have met the enemy and they are ours," is a quotation
> from one of the World Wars. The Pogo version, "We have met the enemy

> and they is us," was indeed related to the environment.

Apparently not in its first usage. This is from Kelly's backword to
_Ten Ever-Lovin' Blue-Eyed Years with Pogo,_ and was written in 1959:

Let me quote from a rear-platform speech in a Pogo book one time.
. . . "It is just unfortunate that in the clumsy hands of a car-
toonist all traits become ridiculous, leading to a certain amount
of self-conscious expostulation and the desire to join battle.

"There is no need to sally forth, for it remains true that those
things which make us human are, curiously enough, always close at
hand. Resolve, then, that on this very ground, with small flags
waving and tinny blasts on tiny trumpets, we may meet the enemy,


and not only may he be ours, he may be us."

The tone of the backword is political and social, not environmental.
Remember that _Silent Spring_ was published only in 1962.

-:-
"O, Mamie minded Momma
'Til one day in Singapore
A Sailorman from Turkestan
Came knocking at the Door. . . ."

--Walt Kelly (1951)
--
Col. G. L. Sicherman
sich...@lucent.com

Jane Vosk

unread,
Aug 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/18/96
to Bill Gascoyne


On 14 Aug 1996, Bill Gascoyne wrote:

> In article i...@ultranews.duc.auburn.edu, bul...@eng.auburn.edu (Robert L. Bulfin) writes:
> >In article <llaubsch-0...@lab6.sesp.nwu.edu>, llau...@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (leswin laubscher) writes:

> >> In article <3207C9...@indy.net>, "Jeffrey L. Eglen" <jle...@indy.net>


> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Who said: "We have met the enemy and he is us."?
> >> >

> [snip]


> >> The character (not person) who said this was Pogo, in the famous cartoon
> >> strip popular sometime around the 20s (I think). To be honest, I don't
> >> know if the quote is in reference to the 1st or the 2nd World War, but I
> >> know it refers to one of them.
> >

> >Whoa! I read Pogo religiously, and i am not that old. The strip was very popular


> >in the 1950s and 1960s. If i remember correctly, the "I have met .." quote
> >was about the environment.
> >
>

> The original, "We have met the enemy and they are ours," is a quotation from
> one of the World Wars. The Pogo version, "We have met the enemy and they is us,"
> was indeed related to the environment.
>

> ---
>
> Bill Gascoyne ----- Speak for them?
> LSI Logic Corp. LSI |LOGIC| They hardly even
> 1501 McCarthy Blvd. | | listen to me!
> MS E-197 -----
> Milpitas, CA 95035 LSI addr: gascan@dcst16 internet: gas...@lsil.com
>
>
>
>

In _Lord of the Flies_, Simon says "The beast is us." Interesting?

justjane

0 new messages