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Maryanne Melko

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Jan 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/21/96
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I am looking for a quote that says essentially the following:

If in one's quest for success (victory) truth and honesty should fail
you ... getting the result you want anyway you can (lieing,
subtrefuge, deceit, stretching the facts, etc) is OK.

That's not put very well, hope you get the gist of it though.

Maryanne Melko


Barry Fetter

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Jan 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/22/96
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mme...@wsnet.com (Maryanne Melko) wrote:


Perhaps in war...


5328 In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be
attended by a bodyguard of lies.

Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

but not, IMO, in peacetime.


4793 Truth obtains victory, not untruth.
Truth is the way that leads to the regions of light.

Upanishads (c. B.C. 800)


4800 Do not think dishonestly...
Distinguish between gain and loss in worldly matters.
Develop intuitive judgement and understanding for
everything.
Perceive those things which cannot be seen.
Pay attention even to trifles.
Do nothing which is of no use.

Miyamoto Musashi (1584-1645)


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Darkwulf

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Jan 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/22/96
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mme...@wsnet.com (Maryanne Melko) wrote:
>I am looking for a quote that says essentially the following:
>
>If in one's quest for success (victory) truth and honesty should fail
>you ... getting the result you want anyway you can (lieing,
>subtrefuge, deceit, stretching the facts, etc) is OK.
>
>That's not put very well, hope you get the gist of it though.
>
>Maryanne Melko
>

Uhmm...How about "The ends justify the means."


q

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Jan 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/23/96
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On Sun, 21 Jan 1996, Maryanne Melko wrote:

> I am looking for a quote that says essentially the following:
>
> If in one's quest for success (victory) truth and honesty should fail
> you ... getting the result you want anyway you can (lieing,
> subtrefuge, deceit, stretching the facts, etc) is OK.

Pursuing a legal career?

You can't learn too soon that the most useful thing about a principle is
that it can always be sacrificed to expediency.
-- W[illiam] Somerset Maugham (1874-1965), British
writer and playwright, _The Circle,_ (1921),
Act III
-- Davidson. _The Ultimate Reference Book._ 1994.

It should seem that indolence itself would incline a person to be honest;
as it requires infinitely greater pains and contrivance to be a knave.
-- William Shenstone (1714-1763), British poet
-- Davidson. _The Ultimate Reference Book._ 1994.

Two wrongs don't make a right. But three do.
-- _Deteriorata_

If the end is licit the means are licit. (Cum finis est licitus etiam
media sunt licita.)
-- Hermann Busenbaum: _Medulla theologiae
moralis,_ 1645 (This seems to be the source of
"The end justifies the means")
-- Mencken. _New Dictionary of Quotations._ 1942.

Remember the end, and thou shalt never do amiss.
-- Ecclesiasticus III, 36, c. 180 B.C.
-- Mencken. _New Dictionary of Quotations._ 1942.

What shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose
his own soul?
-- Mark VIII, 36, c. 70
-- Mencken. _New Dictionary of Quotations._ 1942.

If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think
little of robbing; and from robbing he next comes to drinking and
Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination.
-- Thomas De Quincey: _On Murder Considered as
One of the Fine Arts,_ 1827
-- Mencken. _New Dictionary of Quotations._ 1942.


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Jim Stamper

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Jan 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/24/96
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>On Sun, 21 Jan 1996, Maryanne Melko wrote:
>
> I am looking for a quote that says essentially the following:
>
> If in one's quest for success (victory) truth and honesty should fail
> you ... getting the result you want anyway you can (lieing,
> subtrefuge, deceit, stretching the facts, etc) is OK.

If a man can't get what he wants honest then he might just as well go out
and steal.

---Southern Appalachian Highland (Hillbilly) Aphorism


Antony Lupton

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Jan 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/26/96
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Jeevan Rasanayagam <jras...@hartford.edu> wrote:

>On Sun, 21 Jan 1996, Maryanne Melko wrote:

>> I am looking for a quote that says essentially the following:
>>
>> If in one's quest for success (victory) truth and honesty should fail
>> you ... getting the result you want anyway you can (lieing,
>> subtrefuge, deceit, stretching the facts, etc) is OK.
>>

>> That's not put very well, hope you get the gist of it though.

How about

"If at first don't succeed, cheat"


George J Kamenz

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Jan 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/27/96
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Dodger (mhb...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:

> How about the classic quote from Machiavelli (Sp?):
> "The ends justify the means"

I don't think so, I'm pretty sure Machiavelli was Italian.

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George J Kamenz

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Jan 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/27/96
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Niccolo Machiavelli's _The Prince_ was published in 1513, about 130 years
before your reference.

Janet G. Walden

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Feb 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/1/96
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On Sun, 21 Jan 1996, Maryanne Melko wrote:

> I am looking for a quote that says essentially the following:
>
> If in one's quest for success (victory) truth and honesty should fail
> you ... getting the result you want anyway you can (lieing,
> subtrefuge, deceit, stretching the facts, etc) is OK.
> That's not put very well, hope you get the gist of it though.

How about "The end justifies the means"?
Janet

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