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David C. Kifer
the sources of and the discussion of QUOTATIONS. I know that this
is a time of unprecedented stress, and everyone is venting anger,
grief, and every other emotion. I've been doing it myself.
But please, at least include a quotation SOMEWHERE in your rant!
At least PRETEND you are still posting to alt.quotations, instead of
alt.flame.everyone.who.disagrees.with.me...
ObQuote:
Pithy sentences are like sharp nails which force truth upon our memory.
--Diderot
There is a time for all things, a time to preach and a time to
pray, but those times have passed away. There is a time to fight,
and that time has now come.
--Peter Muhlenberg
--
Dave
"Tam multi libri, tam breve tempus!"
(Et brevis pecunia.) [Et breve spatium.]
Donna L. Bridges
<3BA50EAE...@sky-access.com> "David C. Kifer"
<dki...@sky-access.com> wrote:
>There is a time for all things, a time to preach and a time to
>pray, but those times have passed away. There is a time to fight,
>and that time has now come.
>--Peter Muhlenberg
Who is he & where was he when he said this? <bg>
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preach and a time to pray..." is a quote of a quote - it comes from the Old
Testament (Ecclesiastics if my memory serves me.) KM
OBQ:
"Every generation revolts against its fathers and makes friends with its
grandfathers."
~ Lewis Mumford
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Frank Lynch
> On Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:42:22 -0400, in alt.quotations
> <3BA50EAE...@sky-access.com> "David C. Kifer"
> <dki...@sky-access.com> wrote:
>
> >There is a time for all things, a time to preach and a time to
> >pray, but those times have passed away. There is a time to fight,
> >and that time has now come.
> >--Peter Muhlenberg
>
> Who is he & where was he when he said this? <bg>
He seems to have been a minister from the American Revolutionary War
period. I haven't been able to find out exactly whihc events caused him
to say this
Frank Lynch
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David C. Kifer
>
> On Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:42:22 -0400, in alt.quotations
> <3BA50EAE...@sky-access.com> "David C. Kifer"
> <dki...@sky-access.com> wrote:
>
> >There is a time for all things, a time to preach and a time to
> >pray, but those times have passed away. There is a time to fight,
> >and that time has now come.
> >--Peter Muhlenberg
>
> Who is he & where was he when he said this? <bg>
I don't know. This is the way I got it...
However, you've made *me* curious.... click, click...
http://www.pgs.org/culture.asp
"The first President of the National Congress was Frederick Augustus
Muhlenberg, and his Pennsylvania German brother, General Peter
Muhlenberg, Revolutionary patriot, is one of Pennsylvania's two
representatives in the Hall of Fame in the nation's capitol."
http://www.stansaylor.com/pahistory.htm
"Pennsylvania soldiers formed a major portion of Washington's
army, and such military leaders as Arthur St. Clair, Anthony
Wayne, Thomas Mifflin, and Peter Muhlenberg gave valuable service."
http://www.faithlutherangroton.org/famous.html
"John Peter Muhlenberg (1711-1787) pastor; U.S. Congressman; Brigadier
General in the Continental Army during the American Revolution. The
eldest son of Henry Melchoir Muhlenberg, he was a friend of US
Presidents Thomas Jefferson and James Monroe."
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel03.html
"Peter Muhlenberg (1746-1807) was the prime example of a "fighting
parson" during the Revolutionary War. The eldest son of the Lutheran
patriarch Henry Melchoir Muhlenberg, young Muhlenberg at the conclusion
of a sermon in January 1776 to his congregation in Woodstock, Virginia,
threw off his clerical robes to reveal the uniform of a Virginia
militia officer. Having served with distinction throughout the war,
Muhlenberg commanded a brigade that successfully stormed the British
lines at Yorktown. He retired from the army in 1783 as a brevetted
major general."
http://co.shenandoah.va.us/history/intclower.htm
"Finally, Dr. Clower told us of "The Fighting Parson," Peter Muhlenberg
who believed, "There is a time to plant and a time to reap, a time for
war and that time has come.""
http://www.virginiagentleman.com/pamphlets.html
He seems to have written a book titled "Fighting Parson of the
American Revolution", "available soon" from this site... :-)>
One suspects, but cannot prove, that this is likely to be the
source of the quote....It also seems possible that he first
used the words at the end of that sermon, when he took off his
clerical robes to show the military uniform.
The Sanity Inspector
<dki...@sky-access.com> shared with usenet this thought:
>It is meant to be dedicated to the posting of, the correction of,
>the sources of and the discussion of QUOTATIONS. I know that this
>is a time of unprecedented stress, and everyone is venting anger,
>grief, and every other emotion. I've been doing it myself.
>But please, at least include a quotation SOMEWHERE in your rant!
>At least PRETEND you are still posting to alt.quotations, instead of
>alt.flame.everyone.who.disagrees.with.me...
Seconded. When I'm too steamed to be civilized anymore, I retire to
my other regular newsgroup, which is much less reticent in their
speech.
Obquote:
It's clobberin' time!
-- The Thing, of The Fantastic Four
--
bruce
The dignified don't even enter in the game.
--The Jam
Matti Lamprhey
> It is meant to be dedicated to the posting of, the correction of,
> the sources of and the discussion of QUOTATIONS. I know that this
> is a time of unprecedented stress, and everyone is venting anger,
> grief, and every other emotion. I've been doing it myself.
> But please, at least include a quotation SOMEWHERE in your rant!
As long as one is correcting or discussing a quote, one should not be
obliged to add one's own.
Matti
The Sanity Inspector
<9o8a97$c008a$2...@ID-103223.news.dfncis.de>, Matti Lamprhey shared with usenet
this thought:
>
Agreed. Wait, no I don't.
William C Waterhouse
"David C. Kifer" <dki...@sky-access.com> writes:
>...
> He seems to have written a book titled "Fighting Parson of the
> American Revolution", "available soon" from this site... :-)>
No, that is a biography of him. Here's the listing:
Hocker, Edward W.
The fighting parson of the American revolution : a biography
of General Peter Muhlenberg, Lutheran clergyman, military
chieftain, and political leader
Philadelphia, Pa. : Pub. by the author, 1936.
William C. Waterhouse
Penn State
ObQuote:
And then, of a sudden, it -- ah, but stay,
I'll tell you what happened without delay,
Scaring the parson into fits,
Frightening people out of their wits, --
Have you ever heard of that, I say?
--- O. W. Holmes, The Deacon's Masterpiece, or The
Wonderful "One-Hoss Shay": A Logical Story
Kevin G. Barkes
> It's clobberin' time!
> -- The Thing, of The Fantastic Four
I keep thinking of two famous Bugs Bunny quotes...
"They don't know me very well, do they?"
and
"Of course, you realize, this means war."
the latter delivered only when the hare has been sufficiently
provoked.
--
Regards,
KGB
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Sheila Dundee
> obliged to add one's own.
>
> Matti
No one can be forced to quote of course. the FAQ is not gospel (sorry ! I
don't *think* it is!)....but in the interests of consideration of others we
have a [pol] addendum on headers. Would it be too much trouble to add [com]
or [pol-com]to designate that this is comment with no quotes?
If comment only begins to predominate then this group
will lose its character and perhaps even some of its contributors.
That would be a pity.
OBQ
Broadly speaking the short words are best, and the old words best of all.
~Sir Winston Churchill
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Be sure you are right, then go ahead.
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