Frederick the Great Quote.

[lan...@csranet.com]

Does anyone have any information on a quote attributed to Frederick the
Great, that goes something like this:

"No das, no das... To jour, no das."

I haven't the first clue what it means, nor when it was said, but It
came up in a discussion in a History class, recently...

Thanks

[Margaret Tarbet]

In alt.quotations on Tue, 09 Jun 1998 13:51:48 -0400,
lan...@csranet.com wrote:

>"No das, no das... To jour, no das."

I suspect it's probably

"L'audace, l'audace, tojours l'audace".

"Boldness, boldness, always boldness"

Tho why a Prussian should be speaking french when he
usually spoke german....

[Xjr3000]

Margaret Tarbet <tar...@swaa.com> wrote:

>lan...@csranet.com wrote:
>
>>"No das, no das... To jour, no das."
>
>I suspect it's probably
>
>"L'audace, l'audace, tojours l'audace".
>
>"Boldness, boldness, always boldness"
>
>Tho why a Prussian should be speaking french when he
>usually spoke german....

Good point.
That's why it was spoken by a Frenchman.

De l'audace, et encore de l'audace, et toujours de l'audace,
et la France est sauvee.
Boldness, more boldness, and always boldness, and France is saved.
-George Jacques Danton, French revolutionary leader,
Address, Legislative Committee of General Defence, September
2, 1792.

That could be wise military tactics, but in the middle of a revolution
discrection is sometimes the better part of valor.
France might have been saved, but Danton was not; he was guillotined in 1794.

The greatest and noblest pleasure which we have in
this world is to discover new truths,
and the next is to shake off old prejudices.
-Frederick II, the Great
-.-.-.-.-.-.Jay-.-.-. xjr...@aol.com -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-

[Peter Stewart Lively]

> That could be wise military tactics, but in the middle of a revolution
> discrection is sometimes the better part of valor.
> France might have been saved, but Danton was not; he was guillotined in 1794.

Even though he died, he kept his humor about him... It was said he was a
very pretty man, and his words before his execution, spoken to the
executioner reflect this:

"Show my head to the people, it is worth seeing." -Georges Danton

Peter
http://mit.edu/pslively/www/quote.html

[dgw...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, June 9, 1998 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, lan...@csranet.com wrote:
> Does anyone have any information on a quote attributed to Frederick the
> Great, that goes something like this:
>

> "No das, no das... To jour, no das."
>

> I haven't the first clue what it means, nor when it was said, but It
> came up in a discussion in a History class, recently...
>
> Thanks

Margaret's reply is correct. The quote, however, comes from the movie "Patton" where the title character warns a fellow general about being tentative:

You're a very good man, Lucian.
You want to guard against being too conservative. Remember what Frederick
the Great said:
''L'audace, L'audace! Toujours L'audace!''

[dmar...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, June 9, 1998 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, lan...@csranet.com wrote:
> Does anyone have any information on a quote attributed to Frederick the
> Great, that goes something like this:
>
> "No das, no das... To jour, no das."
>
> I haven't the first clue what it means, nor when it was said, but It
> came up in a discussion in a History class, recently...
>
> Thanks

for Margaret Tarbet:

I speak Spanish to God, Italian to women, French to men snd German to my horse.
-- Attributed to Frederick the Great

[TheSanityInspector]

I doubt Margaret is still here, her post being dated from the Clinton years.

Obquote:

Better late than never.
-- adage

--
bruce
The dignified don't even enter in the game.
-- The Jam

[David C Kifer]

On 3/20/2015 20:46 PM, TheSanityInspector wrote:
> On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 11:36:31 AM UTC-4, dmar...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, June 9, 1998 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, lan...@csranet.com wrote:
>>> Does anyone have any information on a quote attributed to Frederick the
>>> Great, that goes something like this:
>>>
>>> "No das, no das... To jour, no das."
>>>
>>> I haven't the first clue what it means, nor when it was said, but It
>>> came up in a discussion in a History class, recently...
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>> for Margaret Tarbet:
>>
>> I speak Spanish to God, Italian to women, French to men snd German to my horse.
>> -- Attributed to Frederick the Great
>
> I doubt Margaret is still here, her post being dated from the Clinton years.

A few of us are still here from the years of President "Slick Willie" Clinton.
But not from the years of:

"George Clinton (July 26 [O.S. July 15] 1739 – April 20, 1812) was an American soldier and
statesman, considered one of the Founding Fathers of the United States. He served as Governor of New
York from 1777 to 1795, then again from 1801 to 1804, then serving as the fourth Vice President of
the United States from 1805 to 1812, serving under Presidents Thomas Jefferson and James Madison. "
--Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clinton_%28vice_president%29


--
Dave
"Tam multi libri, tam breve tempus!"
(Et brevis pecunia.) [Et breve spatium.]

[jn.cra...@gmail.com]

He preferred speaking French over his native German

[kfla...@aol.com]

On Tuesday, June 9, 1998 at 1:00:00 AM UTC-6, lan...@csranet.com wrote:
> Does anyone have any information on a quote attributed to Frederick the
> Great, that goes something like this:
>
> "No das, no das... To jour, no das."
>
> I haven't the first clue what it means, nor when it was said, but It
> came up in a discussion in a History class, recently...
>
> Thanks

The quotation is "l'audace, l'audace, toujours l'audace," which means "Audacity, audacity, always audacity. ... to be bold in all you do.

Hope this helps!

[sandym...@gmail.com]

It means audacity, audacity, always audacity, and yes Frederick the Great said it in French. But why? Because he was quoting Napoleon Bonaparte who said it first, and in French, of course.

[jerry.v...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 5:02:19 PM UTC-5, sandym...@gmail.com wrote:
> It means audacity, audacity, always audacity, and yes Frederick the Great said it in French. But why? Because he was quoting Napoleon Bonaparte who said it first, and in French, of course.

Frederick came before Napoleon. He spoke French because that was the language of the Prussian court during Frederick's day.

[kwrsm...@gmail.com]

Audacity Audacity always Audacity

[kindred...@gmail.com]

Frederick the great respected french intellect. He spent a great deal of time with Voltaire.

[big...@gmail.com]

L’audace! L’audace! Toujouts l’audace! A quote by Frederick the great referred to by general Patton. It literally means audacity audacity always audacity. I’m more comfortable translation would be boldness boldness always boldness!

[don.c...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, 15 April 2017 15:02:19 UTC-7, sandym...@gmail.com wrote:
> It means audacity, audacity, always audacity, and yes Frederick the Great said it in French. But why? Because he was quoting Napoleon Bonaparte who said it first, and in French, of course.

.....would have been extremely difficult as Frederick died in 1786 at which time Napoleon was an 18 year old new recruit in the French Army. They never met and Frederick actually first said this before Napoleon was even born!

[gall...@gmail.com]

It was a quote used in the movie Patton

[jim.j...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, June 9, 1998 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, lan...@csranet.com wrote:
> Does anyone have any information on a quote attributed to Frederick the
> Great, that goes something like this:
>
> "No das, no das... To jour, no das."
>
> I haven't the first clue what it means, nor when it was said, but It
> came up in a discussion in a History class, recently...
>
> Thanks

Fredrick the Great

[andyca...@yahoo.co.uk]

George c Scott said it in the film Patton, with him playing the lead role.

[britto...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, June 9, 1998 at 1:00:00 PM UTC+6, lan...@csranet.com wrote:
> Does anyone have any information on a quote attributed to Frederick the
> Great, that goes something like this:
>
> "No das, no das... To jour, no das."
>
> I haven't the first clue what it means, nor when it was said, but It
> came up in a discussion in a History class, recently...
>
> Thanks

L'audace, l'audace, toujours l'audace..........Napoleon, and later General George Patton made "Audacity, audacity, always audacity." a famous phrase encouraging bold courage in the face of great challenge.