It looks like my foot is firmly planted in my mouth. Someone gave this
quote, I said it looked spurious, but, of course this fellow then dug up
dozens of "sources" on the web as above.
Did Dr Freud •actually• say this?
aurator
aubquote:
"Dr Freud relates that there are peculiar reasons deep in our
subconscious why gold in particular should satisfy strong instincts
and serve as a symbol."
John Maynard Keynes (1883-1946) ‘The Return to Gold.’ Essays in
Persuasion 1933, pt III p 182.
>"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional
>maturity."
>--Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanalysis (1952)
>
>
>
>It looks like my foot is firmly planted in my mouth. Someone gave this
>quote, I said it looked spurious, but, of course this fellow then dug up
>dozens of "sources" on the web as above.
>
>
>Did Dr Freud •actually• say this?
Hey, if you can't trust a geocities quote site, what can you trust?
ObJustForAuratorGoldQuote:
It is doubtful whether mankind are most indebted to those who
like Bacon and Butler dig the gold from the mine of literature, or to
those who, like Paley, purify it, stamp it, fix its real value, and
give it currency and utitlity.
-- Charles Caleb Colton
--
bruce
The dignified don't even enter in the game.
--The Jam
> Did Dr Freud .actually. say this?
________________________________
Apparently he did in the 10th Lecture of " A General Introduction to
Psychoanalysis" (1916-17)
In these other passages Freud associates retarded sexual and
emotional development not with gun ownership, but with fear and loathing of
weapons.
~Don B. Kates, Jr., Guns, Murders, and the Constitution -- A Realistic
Assessment of Gun Control (Don Kates is a San Francisco criminologist and
civil liberties lawyer).
And it fits with the *phallic symbols* of dream interpretation.....
All elongated objects, sticks, tree-trunks, umbrellas (on account of the
opening, which might be likened to an erection), all sharp and elongated
weapons, knives, daggers, and pikes, represent the male member.
~Sigmund Freud , The Interpretation of Dreams (1900)
Chapter 6. Representation in Dreams by Symbols: Some Further Typical Dreams
So , according to Freud a fear of guns equates with a fear of the erect
penis....?
And gun-lovers.....?
The traditional Freudian theory is that men are very attracted to phallic
extensions and they have a set of fantasies that originates in their
bodies -- fantasies that tend toward power and aggression.
There isn't a lot of organized psychological theory about the relationship
between men and guns but in men's dreams, guns frequently play a role and,
when they do, it is likened to the penis and all that that means to them.
~Dr. Nancy McWilliams, interview (1999)
Erica
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> All elongated objects, sticks, tree-trunks, umbrellas (on account of the
> opening, which might be likened to an erection), all sharp and elongated
> weapons, knives, daggers, and pikes, represent the male member.
> ~Sigmund Freud , The Interpretation of Dreams (1900)
> Chapter 6. Representation in Dreams by Symbols: Some Further Typical Dreams
See if I can jump in with this counter-quote before thousands of
others do... :-)
"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."
--attributed to Freud
Tom Parsons
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t...@panix.com | A man who does not think for himself
| does not think at all.
http://www.panix.com/~twp | --Oscar Wilde
Indeed it is , and......
I have made it a rule never to smoke more than one cigar at a time.
- Mark Twain
Erica ;-)
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>
> The traditional Freudian theory is that men are very attracted to phallic
> extensions and they have a set of fantasies that originates in their
> bodies -- fantasies that tend toward power and aggression.
> There isn't a lot of organized psychological theory about the relationship
> between men and guns but in men's dreams, guns frequently play a role and,
> when they do, it is likened to the penis and all that that means to them.
> ~Dr. Nancy McWilliams, interview (1999)
>
Being born in the middle of the 20th century, Boomer's education and
outlook have been strongly influenced by the towering presence of two
revolutionary figures : Freud and Einstein. Despite many Boomers not
having formally studied or even been aware of the work of either of these
men, The Freudian and Einsteinian views of the world have been deeply
embedded into the culture which has shaped their generation. Freud and
Einstein, from their utterly different perspectives, have influenced
Western popular culture by generating two powerful beliefs: the belief
that all the answers to our psychological (and even spiritual) questions
are within us: and the belief that everything (not just time and space,
but knowledge and morality as well) is relative.
Hugh Mackay (1938-) Generations: Baby Boomers, their parents and their
children. Ch.3. (1997)
Marx and Freud are the two great destroyers of Christian civilization, the
first replacing the gospel of love by the gospel of hate, the other
undermining the essential concept of human responsibility.--Malcom
Muggeridge, My Life in Pictures, NY: William Morrow & Co., 1987, p. 94
Sometimes a cigar is just a c1gar - Sigmund Freud.
( a pre-Clinton one I fear)
--
Graham J Weeks M.R.Pharm.S.
http://www.weeks-g.dircon.co.uk/ My homepage of quotations
http://www.grace.org.uk/churches/ealing.html Our church
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"Timeo Danaos et dona armam"
(I fear the Greeks even when they bear arms)
--
Paul Marrane What's green, hangs on the wall, and whistles? A
paul_m...@hotmail.com red herring. But it isn't green! Well, you could
paint it green. But it doesn't hang on the wall!
What, there's a law you can't hang it on the wall?
But it doesn't whistle! Nu, so it doesn't whistle.
"You can take my Internet pornography when you pry it from
my...........nevermind."
---Michael
>Erica <ei...@chariot.net.au> wrote:
>> All elongated objects, sticks, tree-trunks, umbrellas (on account of the
>> opening, which might be likened to an erection), all sharp and elongated
>> weapons, knives, daggers, and pikes, represent the male member.
>> ~Sigmund Freud , The Interpretation of Dreams (1900)
>> Chapter 6. Representation in Dreams by Symbols: Some Further Typical Dreams
>
>"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."
> --attributed to Freud
Sometimes a quote is just a cigar?
--
DonnaB <*> shallotpeel on Yahoo 8^>
"Remember as far as anyone knows, we're a nice normal family." - Homer
Simpson
\beginPedantry
The original of course is "et dona ferentes" , meaning "even when they
bear gifts". Unfortunately, word order in Latin is not the same as in
English: it's "dona" that means "gifts" (Compare English "donate".)
The meaning here would have to be represented as "et arma ferentes".
\endPedantry
William C. Waterhouse
Penn State
ObQuote:
BEN BATTLE was a soldier bold,
And used to war's alarms:
But a cannon-ball took off his legs,
So he laid down his arms.
Thomas Hood (1799-1845), "Faithless Nelly Gtay. A Pathetic Ballad", 1-4.
> In article <paul_marrane-D786...@news.cis.dfn.de>,
> Paul Marrane <paul_m...@hotmail.com> writes:
> > And who could possibly remember the famous quotation from Virgule:
> >
> > "Timeo Danaos et dona armam"
> >
> > (I fear the Greeks even when they bear arms)
>
> \beginPedantry
> The original of course is "et dona ferentes" , meaning "even when they
> bear gifts". Unfortunately, word order in Latin is not the same as in
> English: it's "dona" that means "gifts" (Compare English "donate".)
> The meaning here would have to be represented as "et arma ferentes".
> \endPedantry
>
Darn.
And here I was worrying about whether it should be "arma" or "armam."
>On 22 Nov 2001 15:10:48 GMT, in alt.quotations
><9tj4ho$8bu$1...@news.panix.com> Tom <t...@panix.com> wrote:
>
>>Erica <ei...@chariot.net.au> wrote:
>>> All elongated objects, sticks, tree-trunks, umbrellas (on account of the
>>> opening, which might be likened to an erection), all sharp and elongated
>>> weapons, knives, daggers, and pikes, represent the male member.
>>> ~Sigmund Freud , The Interpretation of Dreams (1900)
>>> Chapter 6. Representation in Dreams by Symbols: Some Further Typical Dreams
>>
>>"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."
>> --attributed to Freud
Or was it a Whitehouse aide who said this?...Clothaire
You were probably thinking of the opening line, "Arma virumque cano ...".
By the way, it's Vergil or Virgil, not Virgule. A virgule is a slanted line
used for punctuation. You may have an overzealous spelling checker.
The Trojans might have been less suspicious if the Greeks had called the
Horse a "free gift".
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