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Looking for a quote on Music, mentioning Beethoven, Bach, & Brahms

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BookWight

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Sep 30, 2011, 7:25:28 PM9/30/11
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Hi -

I saw a quote years ago, tying together the 3 artists mentioned in subject.

The quote was in the form of:

"Beethoven gave us (blank)

Bach gave us (something else)

and Brahms gave us (something else #2)"


the three blanks are qualities, like Majesty, Spirit, & Fire (not
necessarily in that order). I'm almost half-convinced that Majesty was
first and fire was last but couldn't swear to it. Although Beethoven &
Majesty do seem like a good fit.

Does this seem familiar to anyone?

I've tried Google a number of times over the years with no luck.



SteveMR200

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Oct 1, 2011, 8:00:02 PM10/1/11
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On 30 Sep 2011 23:25:28 GMT, BookWight wrote in message:
<Xns9F70A714F...@216.151.153.41>:

>I saw a quote years ago, tying together the 3 artists mentioned in subject.
>
>The quote was in the form of:
>
>"Beethoven gave us (blank)
>
> Bach gave us (something else)
>
> and Brahms gave us (something else #2)"

I don't have a quote mentioning Beethoven, Bach and
Brahms but here's one mentioning Beethoven, John,
Paul and George:

"John Lennon, Paul McCartney and George Harrison are
the greatest composers since Beethoven, with Paul
McCartney way out in front."
--Richard Buckle (1916-2001)
_Sunday Times_ [December 1963]

--
Steve

Ignar DePointe

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Oct 1, 2011, 8:40:15 PM10/1/11
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All I can find on a quick search is:

"Bach gave us God’s word, Mozart God's laughter and Beethoven gave us
God's fire, and God gave us music so that we can pray without words"
-- written in front of an old German opera house.

But there are other references to the "Three 'B's -- Beethoven, Bach,
and Brahms (or Berlioz) .

_- Ignar

SteveMR200

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Oct 2, 2011, 12:00:01 PM10/2/11
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On Sat, 1 Oct 2011 17:40:15 -0700 (PDT), Ignar DePointe wrote in
message:
<c63a6c34-78f7-455a...@g23g2000vbz.googlegroups.com>:

>"Bach gave us God?s word, Mozart God's laughter and Beethoven gave us
>God's fire, and God gave us music so that we can pray without words"
>-- written in front of an old German opera house.

Music is like images: it communicates more powerfully
than words. Almost no one today realizes the power
of music over human souls. The ancients did. The
Greeks, who had only very primitive music, were so
moved by it that they universally and unquestioningly
ascribed it to the gods, the Muses (from which
our word "music" comes from).

[...]

Music is not part of life, life is part of music.
Music is cosmic. Its tones and rhythms are a
microcosm of cosmic tones and rhythms. Great
music is an echo of "the music of the spheres."
There is a very old and widespread tradition
that music existed before the worlds were
created (see Job 38:7). . . .

The two universal languages on earth are music and
silence. They are also the two primary languages
of heaven.
--Peter Kreeft (1938- )
_Making Choices: Practical Wisdom For Everyday
Moral Decisions_ [1990], Chapter 9

--
Steve

The Sanity Inspector

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Oct 3, 2011, 1:41:59 PM10/3/11
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I once read something to the effect that Beethoven charges up the
mountainside, while Bruckner stands at the summit and surveys the far
horizons.

Obquote:
If there is anyone who owes everything to Bach, it is God.
-- E. M. Cioran


--
bruce
The dignified don't even enter in the game.
-- The Jam

Kenneth S.

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Oct 3, 2011, 11:33:01 PM10/3/11
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Bach almost persuades me to be a Christian.
-- Roger Fry (English artist and art critic 1866-1934)

Aussie Ladies Inc.

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Oct 8, 2011, 7:09:14 AM10/8/11
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On 3/10/2011 2:30 AM, SteveMR200 wrote:

> The two universal languages on earth are music and
> silence. They are also the two primary languages
> of heaven.
> --Peter Kreeft (1938- )
> _Making Choices: Practical Wisdom For Everyday
> Moral Decisions_ [1990], Chapter 9

________________________

Music was my refuge. I could crawl into the spaces between the notes and
curl my back to loneliness.
~Maya Angelou 1928- , Singin' and Swingin' and gettin' Merry Like
Christmas (1976)

---
The Aussie Ladies Inc

______________________

SteveMR200

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On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 21:39:14 +1030, Aussie Ladies Inc. wrote in
message: <TbWjq.3811$7r4....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>:

>On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 09:00:01 -0700, SteveMR200 wrote in message:
><l03h87pkcg4h660jv...@4ax.com>:


>
>> The two universal languages on earth are music and
>> silence. They are also the two primary languages
>> of heaven.
>> --Peter Kreeft (1938- )
>> _Making Choices: Practical Wisdom For Everyday
>> Moral Decisions_ [1990], Chapter 9
>________________________
>
>Music was my refuge. I could crawl into the spaces between the notes and
>curl my back to loneliness.
>~Maya Angelou 1928- , Singin' and Swingin' and gettin'
> Merry Like Christmas (1976)

"How you doing in here?" Emmet asked.

"Okay," Leah said.

"You get lonely sometimes?"

She shook her head. "I don't mind being alone."

"Me neither," Emmet said. "Gives a soul time to
think. People today, it's like they can't stand
quiet--always got to have something plugged in their
ears or shoved up against their heads."

--Tim Downs (1954- )
_Wonders Never Cease_ [2010], Chapter 15

--
Steve

TheGnome

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Oct 9, 2011, 9:34:33 AM10/9/11
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On Saturday, October 8, 2011 4:09:14 AM UTC-7, Aussie Ladies Inc. wrote:

> Music was my refuge. I could crawl into the spaces between the notes and
> curl my back to loneliness.
> ~Maya Angelou 1928- , Singin' and Swingin' and gettin' Merry Like
> Christmas (1976)
>
> ---
> The Aussie Ladies Inc
____________________

||

It is about time! :) lol, I notice y'all have
incorporated.

They told me later that my blood pressure when I arrived at the clinic across the street measured zero; that it was lucky I had decided to walk and not wait for a ride, because I would likely have bled to death otherwise. But it was a very difficult walk. When I looked down at my right hand I saw the bones sticking
out in all directions and the skin crumpled like paper.

It could only have been a two- or three-minute walk at the outside, but the possibility existed that I would pass out or just stop, and I didn't want to. Providentially an old Zionist marching song with a good, strong beat came into my head. Music is valuable.

--David Hillel Gelernter (b. 1955)
Professor of computer science at Yale injured opening a package from the "Unibomber."
_Drawing Life: Surviving the Unibomber_ [1997]

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SteveMR200

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Oct 9, 2011, 11:00:01 AM10/9/11
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On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 06:34:33 -0700 (PDT), TheGnome wrote in message:
<24625966.69.1318167273390.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prmr13>:

>They told me later that my blood pressure when I arrived at the clinic
>across the street measured zero; that it was lucky I had decided to walk
>and not wait for a ride, because I would likely have bled to death
>otherwise. But it was a very difficult walk. When I looked down at my
>right hand I saw the bones sticking out in all directions and the skin
>crumpled like paper.
>
>It could only have been a two- or three-minute walk at the outside, but
>the possibility existed that I would pass out or just stop, and I didn't
>want to. Providentially an old Zionist marching song with a good, strong
>beat came into my head. Music is valuable.
>
>--David Hillel Gelernter (b. 1955)
> Professor of computer science at Yale injured opening a package
> from the "Unibomber."
> _Drawing Life: Surviving the Unibomber_ [1997]

Alan Bloom notes, in _The Closing of the American
Mind_, that his college students are remarkably
bland, passionless, and "nice"; but most of them do
feel passion about one and only one thing in their
lives: rock music. What we feel passionate about is
an index to what is our life's deepest meaning, the
love of our hearts, what we yield ourselves to.

I am not implying that rock music is evil, only that
it is powerful. Power can be used for either good
or evil. It is probably silly to utter blanket
condemnations of entire genres of music. That's
been done too many times, and it's always been
wrong. Augustine was even suspicious of chanting
because of its great emotional power.

--Peter Kreeft (1938- )
_Making Choices: Practical Wisdom For Everyday
Moral Decisions_ [1990], Chapter 9

--
Steve

Kenneth S.

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Oct 11, 2011, 2:36:33 PM10/11/11
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On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 21:39:14 +1030, "Aussie Ladies Inc."
<AUSSIEL...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:


Yet there is one thing the world with all its rottenness cannot take
from us, and that is the deep and abiding joy and consolation
perpetuate in great music. Here the spirit may find home and relief
when all else fails.

Eric Fenby: Delius as I Knew Him.

[Comment: Many years ago, the movie director Ken Russell produced a
wonderful TV documentary, "Song of Summer" that was based on Fenby's
book. Fenby was Delius's amanuensis during Delius's declining years.
Excerpts from the documentary are on YouTube, e.g.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiZHRYaOOSQ&feature=related This
documentary, really a docu-drama, was far better than any of Russell's
later movies about well-known composers.]

SteveMR200

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Oct 12, 2011, 7:00:02 AM10/12/11
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:36:33 -0400, Kenneth S. wrote in message:
<hs1997d4jrf2d6mdn...@4ax.com>:

>Yet there is one thing the world with all its rottenness cannot take
>from us, and that is the deep and abiding joy and consolation
>perpetuate in great music. Here the spirit may find home and relief
>when all else fails.
> --Eric Fenby: Delius as I Knew Him.

Read-head said, "I feel like MEW-SIK," and went to
a corner of the room to turn on a machine of some
kind. Oh Ilha! Such a burst of overpoweringly
sweet sound came from it that my probe tips
quivered in ecstasy.

They are masters of sound, these HEW-MEN. Not in
my life have I imagined such an art. There was a
mathematically regulated change of pitch, recurring
with an urgent feeling of logic; there was a
blending of tones in infinite variety; there was
a measured rhythm.

But none of these will give you the slightest idea
of the effect on me, when all were put together.
--Laurence Manning (1899-1972)
_Good-Bye, Ilha!_ [1952]

--
Steve
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