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The Green Dragon

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Jan 11, 1994, 9:18:09 AM1/11/94
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I was wondering if there was any old Punks in this news group. Just a
classification - when I say old Punks I mean ones that were around when it
all started back in the 70's early 80's. I was just sitting here wondering
what happened to all those great band eg. x-ray Specs, The Anti-nowhere
league, Angelic Upstarts and Public Image etc. etc.
Here is a question for you, do all old Punks mellow out? and if so do they
all become hippies? I'm really worried as I happen to be mellowing with age.
I killed myself when I was twenty one, but unfortunately did not stay that
way, but its OK I don't mind life now. I still wear my Doc's and have a
shaved head! I still like to grapple and slam but no-one appreciates me
doing it much. I still get out there and review local Punk bands, but there
is not a lot of them here anymore? *sigh*

Just a lonely Old Punk
Still an idealist
Still an Anarchist
Still alive!

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Noel Hunter

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Jan 11, 1994, 8:58:39 PM1/11/94
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The Green Dragon (mqc...@otago.ac.nz) wrote:
: I was wondering if there was any old Punks in this news group. Just a
: classification - when I say old Punks I mean ones that were around when it
: all started back in the 70's early 80's.

Have you never been to the ABD No-Rio in New York :-) Yeah, there are
lots of punks around, working 40 hours a week, trying to figure out how
Henry Rollins got on MTV and why he wants to be there now, and wondering
why he doesn't tell them what to do with their trash like John Lydon did
a few years ago on 120 minutes-- reading the cue cards for the
interviewer and calling the music mindless trash. Going to shows where
the average age is 10 years younger than their own age-- waiting for
something to happen again.

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Danny Jordan

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Jan 12, 1994, 3:35:16 AM1/12/94
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>The Green Dragon (mqc...@otago.ac.nz) wrote:
>: I was wondering if there was any old Punks in this news group. Just a
>: classification - when I say old Punks I mean ones that were around when it
>: all started back in the 70's early 80's.

Yeah I'm an old punk, I was the first one at my high school to ever have a
mohawk. Got a lot of shit for it too since I live in the bible belt. I don't
really think there is an underground scene anymore, the so called
underground nowadays is just a stepping stone to a major label. I miss the
old days when we were all hated and got beat up a lot..ahhh memories

Danny

Birk Mackinnon

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Jan 12, 1994, 9:25:36 PM1/12/94
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Danny Jordan (djo...@mailer.cc.fsu.edu) wrote:

Detroit still has an underground, and it is very underground. Lot of cool shit,
but people around det. tend to avoid people they don't know.


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Raj Dash

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Jan 13, 1994, 12:32:05 AM1/13/94
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The Green Dragon (mqc...@otago.ac.nz) wrote:
: I was wondering if there was any old Punks in this news group. Just a
: classification - when I say old Punks I mean ones that were around when it
: all started back in the 70's early 80's. I was just sitting here wondering
: what happened to all those great band eg. x-ray Specs, The Anti-nowhere
: league, Angelic Upstarts and Public Image etc. etc.
: Here is a question for you, do all old Punks mellow out? and if so do they
: all become hippies? I'm really worried as I happen to be mellowing with age.

Hey Green Dragon,

I'm an old punk. Weird thing is, I have mellowed for the most part.
But I still like my punk. A lot. In fact, since I started publishing my
(free) magazine (Chaos Review) and started getting a chance to listen to a
lot of music, I found myself getting into the current punk scene more and
more. But it's not the same as the old punk scene. [I just interviewed
Mark(y) Ramone, the drummer of the Ramones today and he said that despite
what's going on today in music, none of it is really new.] Just
can't be. Different thoughts, different problems (? maybe?).

regards,

raj

SUPERGROVER

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Jan 14, 1994, 7:08:03 PM1/14/94
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you know i hear a lot of folks talking about the good ol' days when punk
rock meant something and if you had a mohawk some jock would beat you up, blah
blah blah... and just thinking about it.... well if someone's got a mohawk
it doesn't offend them, if someone's got a bar through their penis, it's just
dismissed as weird, etc.
...the thing is, if you don't look too closely, you'd think that we've become a
more tolerant society, and THAT, i know, is wrong.... Right now, things
are way to pseudo-liberal to be of any good. it seems to me that things
were a lot simpler back then, reagan sucked or eat the rich, blah blah blah...
well i don't know where this post is going, but when i watch old punk movies
sometimes i understand why the old folks say punk is dead. people think it's
been done before and can go smoke a doobie or get their nose pierced without
mom and dad getting too upset so it's not really worth the fight to go a few
steps further and want something better. we're content, for the most part,
with just going on.

people talk about punk as this period phenomenon of the late 70's early 80's
that has all but died out and has no real place in the 90's. Instead, it
suffices to sign a hemp petition or know someone gay or listen to rag in the
machine to feel like you're affecting social upheaval.

geez, so i'm rambling on.....


joe

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