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The Magnificent Bastard

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Nov 27, 2004, 2:48:00 PM11/27/04
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Have you ever seen this guy on his show on MTV? It's called Viva La
Bam and it seems to be nothing more than a showcase for Bam and his
family to show what complete and total which trash hicks they are. His
friends get to show off their white trash skills as well. Everyone on
the show seems to be a semi-literate moron (and I don't think they're
acting, either). The basic premise of each episode is the same.....Bam
and is friends decide to break or smash or destroy something, much to
the chagrin of Bam's mother. Then they beat up on his obese and stupid
looking uncle and his obese and stupid looking step-father. Once in
awhile they show Bam's hot but vapid girlfriend.......she usually has a
line like, "Uhhhhhh. Ummmmmm. [giggles]".

He's a moderately famous skateboarder and I think he is friends with the
guys who were on the show Jackass. He appeared on Jackass a couple of
times and I guess some genius at MTV said "hey, lets give this Bam guy
his own television show". I'm sure that genius has long since been
fired, but apparently Bam signed a long term contract with MTV because
his ridiculous show continues to air.

So are most skateboarders complete white trash like this Bam Margera
guy? I see lots of them skateboarding downtown in my city and I'll have
to say that a lot of them seem sort of loud and vulgar (like Bam & his
friends).

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Dav

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Nov 27, 2004, 4:49:05 PM11/27/04
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On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 14:48:00 -0500, The Magnificent Bastard
<magnif_...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>He's a moderately famous skateboarder and I think he is friends with the
>guys who were on the show Jackass. He appeared on Jackass a couple of
>times and I guess some genius at MTV said "hey, lets give this Bam guy
>his own television show". I'm sure that genius has long since been
>fired, but apparently Bam signed a long term contract with MTV because
>his ridiculous show continues to air.

Bam was actually one of the stars of Jackass - the show itself
partially evolved from his CKY videos - some of the skits were
actually lifted directly from them. I don't like the guy personally -
his sense of humour relies too much on hurting innocent bystanders for
his own amusement.

>So are most skateboarders complete white trash like this Bam Margera
>guy? I see lots of them skateboarding downtown in my city and I'll have
>to say that a lot of them seem sort of loud and vulgar (like Bam & his
>friends).

Bam is a prick - he's completely up himself and most of his stuff
isn't as funny as he thinks it is.

In my experience, he's not representative of the skater scene - the
skaters I associate with are among the smartest and most free-thinking
people I know. Yeah, they can be loud but they don't have the 'pack of
dumb wolves' mentality of neds/chavs.
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feeling dazed and hoping it never happens again."

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np: The Pogues - Sit Down by the Fire

No Name

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Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:49:05 +0000 Hey look over there it's Dav
<davth...@hotmale.com> Oh my god look what he did, he posted a
message on usenet:

>
>Bam was actually one of the stars of Jackass - the show itself
>partially evolved from his CKY videos - some of the skits were
>actually lifted directly from them. I don't like the guy personally -
>his sense of humour relies too much on hurting innocent bystanders for
>his own amusement.

Everyone reading this thread you are getting trolled, MB is a known
usenet troll.

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Sat, 27 Nov 2004 14:48:00 -0500 Hey look over there it's The
Magnificent Bastard <magnif_...@hotmail.com> Oh my god look what

he did, he posted a message on usenet:

>Have you ever seen this guy on his show on MTV? <SNIP>

Anti

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Nov 27, 2004, 7:46:37 PM11/27/04
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Dav <davth...@hotmale.com> wrote in alt.tv.real-world:

> \Yeah, they can be loud but they don't have the 'pack of


> dumb wolves' mentality of neds/chavs.
>


What's a Ned/Chav?

P.S. MB is a troll, never respond to him.

Dav

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Nov 27, 2004, 7:58:02 PM11/27/04
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 00:46:37 GMT, Anti <an...@internet.com> wrote:

>Dav <davth...@hotmale.com> wrote in alt.tv.real-world:
>
>> \Yeah, they can be loud but they don't have the 'pack of
>> dumb wolves' mentality of neds/chavs.
>>
>
>
>What's a Ned/Chav?

They're two of the British nicknames for the herd-mentality street
rats who like to beat up on skate punks and goths (amongst a multitude
of other sins).

http://www.chavscum.co.uk

I guess it's a 00's version of the punks/teds/skins thing.

>P.S. MB is a troll, never respond to him.

'kay. ;)


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feeling dazed and hoping it never happens again."

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np: Dead Kennedys - MTV - Get Off the Air

Greg Henry

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Nov 27, 2004, 8:47:09 PM11/27/04
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No kidding. But, sometimes ya gots time ta kill, y'know?

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Nov 28, 2004, 3:24:32 AM11/28/04
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The Magnificent Bastard wrote:
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> Have you ever seen this guy on his show on MTV?

Nope.


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Beacon Mode

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Nov 28, 2004, 5:05:03 AM11/28/04
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Dav deployed the observation...


>> In my experience, he's not representative of the skater scene - the
>> skaters I associate with are among the smartest and most
>> free-thinking people I know. Yeah, they can be loud but they don't
>> have the 'pack of dumb wolves' mentality of neds/chavs.

Ironically, you will surprise yourself at how free-minded some of the people
you mindlessly brand as chavs can be. I have nothing against skating, or
skaters, but it's that pack-elitist bullshit that you get from them - same
as snowboarders. Ooooh - you ride a plank of wood. Cool. That must mean
you're in some higher mental state than others? Free thinking has FUCK ALL
to do with whether you slide around on a piece of wood all day.

The smartest people you know ride skateboards? You sure know some weird
intellectuals. I seen some zany professors in my time but never seen one on
a skateboard.


Dav

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Nov 28, 2004, 6:52:10 AM11/28/04
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 10:05:03 +0000 (UTC), "Beacon Mode"
<Beaco...@BeaconMode.com> wrote:

>Ironically, you will surprise yourself at how free-minded some of the people
>you mindlessly brand as chavs can be.

You should live near me. You'd be hard-pushed to find a chav whose
daily routine doesn't consist of bothering people for money and
cigarettes, harassing people who dress differently to them, mindless
vandalism or shoplifting. Perhaps all the 'free-minded' chavs stay at
home pondering the nature of existence instead of sitting with fifteen
other guys and their underaged girlfriends in a bus shelter getting
pissed on cider and thorwing stones at passers-by?

>I have nothing against skating, or
>skaters, but it's that pack-elitist bullshit that you get from them - same
>as snowboarders. Ooooh - you ride a plank of wood. Cool. That must mean
>you're in some higher mental state than others? Free thinking has FUCK ALL
>to do with whether you slide around on a piece of wood all day.
>
>The smartest people you know ride skateboards? You sure know some weird
>intellectuals. I seen some zany professors in my time but never seen one on
>a skateboard.

Calling it as I find it. Granted, there are skaters who are pricks -
though from what I've seen, they tend to be the young kids who are in
it for the fashion (ever since skateboarding became 'cool') rather
than the guys who are into the scene as a major part of their
lifestyle...
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np: Winamp is not active

Dav

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Nov 28, 2004, 9:48:23 AM11/28/04
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 11:52:10 +0000, Dav <davth...@hotmale.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 10:05:03 +0000 (UTC), "Beacon Mode"
><Beaco...@BeaconMode.com> wrote:
>
>>Ironically, you will surprise yourself at how free-minded some of the people
>>you mindlessly brand as chavs can be.
>
>You should live near me. You'd be hard-pushed to find a chav whose
>daily routine doesn't consist of bothering people for money and
>cigarettes, harassing people who dress differently to them, mindless
>vandalism or shoplifting. Perhaps all the 'free-minded' chavs stay at
>home pondering the nature of existence instead of sitting with fifteen
>other guys and their underaged girlfriends in a bus shelter getting
>pissed on cider and thorwing stones at passers-by?

Just to clarify, I don't refer to all burberry-clad mallrats as
'chavs' - just the ones I know to be ignorant, lying, thieving, pieces
of shit (which to be fair, does seem to be the majority of the ones
that cross my path).

Rocinante

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Nov 28, 2004, 4:46:17 PM11/28/04
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If someone makes hundreds of thousands of dollars for being stupid and
having fun, is he really stupid?

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11/28/2004 4:45:30 PM

ordosclan

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Nov 28, 2004, 6:40:26 PM11/28/04
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The Magnificent Bastard <magnif_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1c12a3f7a...@news.alt.net>...

> Have you ever seen this guy on his show on MTV? It's called Viva La
> Bam and it seems to be nothing more than a showcase for Bam and his
> family to show what complete and total which trash hicks they are. His

I was wondering what they do. Then I realize I think he made a
million as a skateboarder and bought them a house?

> friends get to show off their white trash skills as well. Everyone on
> the show seems to be a semi-literate moron (and I don't think they're
> acting, either). The basic premise of each episode is the same.....Bam
> and is friends decide to break or smash or destroy something, much to
> the chagrin of Bam's mother. Then they beat up on his obese and stupid
> looking uncle and his obese and stupid looking step-father. Once in
> awhile they show Bam's hot but vapid girlfriend.......she usually has a
> line like, "Uhhhhhh. Ummmmmm. [giggles]".

He has a girlfriend?


> He's a moderately famous skateboarder and I think he is friends with the

I've been out of the scene awile. But I saw some of his moves besides
the rock to fakie in the pool, ect. He seems to be pretty decent.
They have his face on a soda box now. Those expensive psuedo-exotic
flavors.

> guys who were on the show Jackass. He appeared on Jackass a couple of
> times and I guess some genius at MTV said "hey, lets give this Bam guy
> his own television show". I'm sure that genius has long since been
> fired, but apparently Bam signed a long term contract with MTV because
> his ridiculous show continues to air.

Yeah MTV really gone downhill. I havent had cable since the 90's but
we have MTV2 on broadcast. They got shows like Cribs. Its all pretty
pathetic. This shows semi decent. The problem is it kind of plays
off the kind of stuff we would do when we were younger. One guy has a
webcam and you film yourself eating a whole box of frosted flakes with
chopsticks while trying to be funny in unique ways like shaving a z in
your head with a cheese grater.



> So are most skateboarders complete white trash like this Bam Margera
> guy? I see lots of them skateboarding downtown in my city and I'll have
> to say that a lot of them seem sort of loud and vulgar (like Bam & his
> friends).

This kind of thing just spawns more of em. Skateboarding in the usa
is dead. Dead as dead can get. There's still a scene in cali, but
then again, its cali. You have people still wearing tie dye in cali.
They all trying to be unique and cool. But you realize they are
rejects that cant do sports or get good grades. By the time (or a
short grace period after) they get a drivers license car, girlfriend
or graduate (or drop out) highschool) and or a real job they'll stop
skateboarding. And take up karate or BJJ ahahahahahah.

ordo...@mail.hongkong.com

ordosclan

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Nov 28, 2004, 6:43:57 PM11/28/04
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"Beacon Mode" <Beaco...@BeaconMode.com> wrote in message news:<coc7sf$edf$1...@sparta.btinternet.com>...

> Ironically, you will surprise yourself at how free-minded some of the people
> you mindlessly brand as chavs can be. I have nothing against skating, or
> skaters, but it's that pack-elitist bullshit that you get from them - same
> as snowboarders. Ooooh - you ride a plank of wood. Cool. That must mean
> you're in some higher mental state than others? Free thinking has FUCK ALL
> to do with whether you slide around on a piece of wood all day.
>
> The smartest people you know ride skateboards? You sure know some weird
> intellectuals. I seen some zany professors in my time but never seen one on
> a skateboard.

Hard pill for me to swallow too. Classic "I'm defending my group of
friends because i'm one too and we all share the same delusion".

ordo...@mail.hongkong.com

ordosclan

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Nov 28, 2004, 6:46:33 PM11/28/04
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ą <h0plib...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<41A98B40...@hotmail.com>...

> The Magnificent Bastard wrote:
> >
> > Have you ever seen this guy on his show on MTV?
>
> Nope.

Youve seen the game commercial.


ordo...@mail.hongkong.com

ordosclan

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Nov 28, 2004, 6:45:38 PM11/28/04
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Dav <davth...@hotmale.com> wrote in message news:<04pjq0h8papio9ofv...@4ax.com>...

> Just to clarify, I don't refer to all burberry-clad mallrats as
> 'chavs' - just the ones I know to be ignorant, lying, thieving, pieces
> of shit (which to be fair, does seem to be the majority of the ones
> that cross my path).

Buncha slackjawed drooling gorillas dropping e and staring off into
space trying to think of someone to call on their brain tumor
generator, AKA cellphone.

ordo...@mail.hongkong.com

Dav

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Nov 28, 2004, 8:23:50 PM11/28/04
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On 28 Nov 2004 15:43:57 -0800, ordo...@mail.hongkong.com (ordosclan)
wrote:

My friends are *that* cool...


--
"Interviewing Avril Lavigne is like being hit over the head
with a shovel - an unpleasant experience, which leaves you
feeling dazed and hoping it never happens again."

-- Belfast Telegraph


np: The Clash - 1977

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Nov 29, 2004, 2:06:32 AM11/29/04
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ordosclan wrote:
>
> ą <h0plib...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<41A98B40...@hotmail.com>...
> > The Magnificent Bastard wrote:
> > >
> > > Have you ever seen this guy on his show on MTV?
> >
> > Nope.
>
> Youve seen the game commercial.

Since the days of the original Bones Brigade, I've been acquainted with
quite a few pro skateboarders. Most of them are either dead or doing
time for murdering women - I've no doubt this Bam Margera *is* white
trash, if he's a moderately famous pro skateboarder as Maggie claims he
is.


>
> ordo...@mail.hongkong.com

Fraser Johnston

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"ą" <h0plib...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> ordosclan wrote:
>>
>> ą <h0plib...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:<41A98B40...@hotmail.com>...
>> > The Magnificent Bastard wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Have you ever seen this guy on his show on MTV?
>> >
>> > Nope.
>>
>> Youve seen the game commercial.
>
> Since the days of the original Bones Brigade, I've been acquainted with
> quite a few pro skateboarders. Most of them are either dead or doing
> time for murdering women - I've no doubt this Bam Margera *is* white
> trash, if he's a moderately famous pro skateboarder as Maggie claims he
> is.

Yeah that Tony Hawk is a total rebel.

Fraser

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Nov 29, 2004, 2:12:42 AM11/29/04
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Every prick in this newsgroup (alt.tv.sopranos) is a fucking troll in
case you didn't notice.

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Fraser Johnston wrote:
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> "±" <h0plib...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:41AACA78...@hotmail.com...
> > ordosclan wrote:
> >>
> >> ± <h0plib...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> >> news:<41A98B40...@hotmail.com>...
> >> > The Magnificent Bastard wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Have you ever seen this guy on his show on MTV?
> >> >
> >> > Nope.
> >>
> >> Youve seen the game commercial.
> >
> > Since the days of the original Bones Brigade, I've been acquainted with
> > quite a few pro skateboarders. Most of them are either dead or doing
> > time for murdering women - I've no doubt this Bam Margera *is* white
> > trash, if he's a moderately famous pro skateboarder as Maggie claims he
> > is.
>
> Yeah that Tony Hawk is a total rebel.

For starters:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=mark+gator+rogowski&btnG=Search

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/state/la-me-skater27nov27,1,838393.story?coll=la-news-state

LA Times - November 27, 2004
COLUMN ONE
Thrashed by Charge of Murder Skateboarding fans and businesses aid Neil
Heddings' defense fund. He blames his outlaw image for allegations that
he killed his son.

By Lance Pugmire, Times Staff Writer


Pro skateboarder Neil Heddings carved out a reputation based almost as
much on the pentagram tattoo on his chest and his rebellious lifestyle
as his mastery of backyard pools and plywood half-pipes.

He named his youngest son Budweiser, sported a shaved head and traveled
the globe performing for young crowds and earning thousands of dollars a
year from skateboard companies to help hawk their newest boards and
gear.

That image served him well in West Coast skating circles. Heddings says
it worked against him the morning of Nov. 23, 2002, when a San Jacinto
police officer walked into a bedroom and found the skater with the
lifeless body of his 2-year-old son, Marcus, cradled in his arms.

Three months later, Heddings, 30, and his 25-year-old girlfriend,
Christine "Pinky" Rams, were charged with beating the boy to death. They
are scheduled to stand trial on first-degree murder charges Feb. 1 in
Riverside County.

Heddings blames the boy's death on an undiagnosed medical condition or
neglect by Marcus' mother in San Diego. An autopsy determined that
Marcus sustained nearly a dozen sharp blows to the head, probably with a
fist. The injuries were at most 2 days old, and Heddings and Rams were
the only adults with Marcus during that time, prosecutors allege.

Yet Heddings' claims of innocence have drawn support not only from many
fellow skateboarders but also from usually cautious corporate America.
The Vans skateboard shoe company contributed $1,000 to Heddings' defense
fund, and a former subsidiary of Nike held a fundraiser for him at a
Portland, Ore., skate park.

"In no way are we trying to pass judgment on this case or get in the
police's way, but the skateboarding community is in his corner," said
Chris Strain, vice president of marketing for Vans. "The guy needs
help."

For most corporations, supporting an accused child murderer would be
unthinkable. But skateboard companies are different. They know that the
subculture they market to revels in its fringe, anarchist reputation,
said David Carter, a sports business author and instructor at USC's
Marshall School of Business.

"Vans and the others understand the role [Heddings] plays in their
critical target market," Carter said.

Many of Heddings' supporters call the prosecution a sham, saying police
prejudice against skateboarders runs deep."Neil is one of us," said Jake
Phelps, a friend of Heddings and editor in chief of Thrasher, a
skateboarding magazine. "He's the type who'd kick in your fence to go
skate in your empty pool. He chose that path, this beer-swilling, wild
life. But you live by that blade and you die by that blade. The pig sees
you do something, and he'll fry you. It's religious zealotry, man. It's
us versus them."

Homicide Investigation

Heddings said he found Marcus dead on a Saturday morning on the boy's
homemade bed, a few unpainted two-by-fours cobbled together around a
mattress. At least 10 minutes went by before Heddings called 911,
prosecutors allege.

San Jacinto police arrived at the sparsely furnished home to find
bruises on the boy's head and body, and started to investigate the death
as a homicide.

When questioned, Heddings dropped hints that Marcus' mother might be
responsible. He told police that his son had visited his mother in San
Diego four days earlier and had come back lethargic and throwing up.

Rams offered another explanation. She told the officers that Marcus
slipped and struck his head while she was giving him a bath the day
before his death.

As a precaution, county child protective services was called in to take
custody of the two other children in the home: Heddings and Rams' son,
Budweiser, and Rams' other child by a different father.

"Look, I'm a pro skater. People still draw conclusions when they look at
you, and I really believe I was preconceived from the start by police,"
Heddings said in a telephone interview from jail. "When they first came
into my house, they didn't look at the toys we had for the kids. They
looked at me, and they looked at [Rams] and they said, 'Take their
kids.' Guilty."

Rams' former husband, Ronald Rams, told detectives that on the night
before Marcus was found dead, Christine had phoned him in tears saying
the kids were "driving her crazy." He told police that Christine
referred to Marcus as an "ugly" child and a "little piece of … ,"
according to court testimony.

Heddings and Rams were arrested together March 3, 2003, and secretly
tape-recorded while in the backseat of a patrol car — a key piece of
evidence already used against them in a preliminary hearing.

"Don't turn on me," Rams told Heddings.

"You don't turn on me, I won't turn on you," he said.

Both were charged with murder, even though the prosecutor handling the
case said he didn't know which one allegedly delivered the fatal blows.

"They both had a duty to protect that child," Riverside County Deputy
Dist. Atty. Kelly Hansen said. "One person either inflicted the damage
or failed miserably to protect Marcus."

In Portland, Ore., and in Heddings' nearby hometown of Newberg, hundreds
of skateboarders have rallied to defend their jailed comrade, holding
fundraisers and mailing in checks that have provided more than $40,000
for his defense fund.

Auto Mowdown, a Watsonville, Calif., skateboard company, is designing a
special "Neil Heddings" board with all the proceeds going to his
defense, and more fundraisers are in the works.

Last year, a big event was held at the Savier Warehouse in Portland, a
skater's paradise equipped with a large particle-board skating bowl,
plywood ramps, half-pipes, metal rails and a live, ear-splitting punk
band. The warehouse was owned by the skateboarding shoe company Savier,
which was owned by Nike at the time and has since been sold.

"Let's hear noise for Neil!" Mike Estes, a warehouse manager, roared
into a microphone, prompting 200 skaters to pound their boards against
the wooden ramps. Estes was raffling boards, T-shirts and a truckload of
other donated skateboard gear. "Improve your chances of winning
something, and improve Neil's chances of getting out of jail!"

Dozens of skaters opened their wallets, forking over more than $1,500.

They knew the money was going to help two accused child killers. But
many of them, teenagers and parents alike, said they were skeptical of
the charges.

"I think this is a prejudged case, and the reason I came here was to
support the idea that you are innocent until proven guilty," said Vic
Nogueroa, 40, of Portland, who was with his son. "I know if you don't
have a lot of money, it's easy to get railroaded in this country's legal
system."

A Nike corporate official who knows Heddings said Savier held the
fundraiser independently of the shoe giant but added that he didn't
object to the event.

"Neil's a good dude," the executive said, adding that he did not want to
be identified because he did not want to embarrass Nike. Loyalty to
Heddings runs deep in Portland. He was a fixture at Burnside skate park,
a sketchy collection of concrete bowls and mounds that skateboarders
clandestinely built under the Burnside Bridge, paving over an old hobo
camp along the Willamette River.

Heddings was a foul-mouthed, beer-loving street punk, his friends say
with pride, the very image that skateboard companies use to sell shoes
and baggy shorts.

"Neil was not into corporate contests; he was more of a backyard pool,
street skater," said his friend Jason Beaudry of Portland. He partied
hard and was once arrested for smacking a man on the head with a
skateboard during a fight. His tattoos include a checkerboard pattern on
his feet, which was inspired by the pattern on his first Vans skateboard
shoes.

Heddings' friends said it was his image that made him an easy suspect.
But Hansen, the prosecutor on the case, said he didn't care "if the
whole world was backing Neil."

"It's shallow to think the police arrested these two because of their
tattoos," Hansen said. "When no one else was present when the child was
hurt, you have to ask how else could these injuries occur. I wish human
beings were better to their children. Unfortunately, some of them just
lose it."

Heddings and Rams have sat in jail since their arrest, unable to pay
their $500,000 bail. Their other children remain in the custody of Rams'
mother.

Their defense centers on two explanations for Marcus' death: that the
injuries were inflicted while the boy was staying with Susie Moyer,
Marcus' mother, in San Diego; and that Marcus possibly had a chronic
medical condition.

Heddings said from jail that he was convinced Marcus was suffering from
a medical condition, such as encephalitis, that could have made him
prone to brain injury.

"I don't know what happened to Marcus, but there were medical problems,
and that's the whole ifs, ands or buts," Heddings said.

Moyer acknowledged that she didn't provide the best home for her son.
She was living in a cheap motel, had an abusive boyfriend and still was
a heavy user of methamphetamine around the time of Marcus' death.

But she adamantly denies having anything to do with the boy's death.
When Marcus came to San Diego for what would be his final visit, he
arrived looking battered and bruised, she said.

"Financially, I didn't have anything. I could only pay for the [motel]
room and to feed him," Moyer said. "A hospital visit, or an emergency
room bill would've been a problem."

Hansen said any attempt to implicate Moyer is a ruse.

The head injuries Marcus suffered were not caused by a fall or an
illness, according to court testimony by county forensic pathologist
Mark Fajardo. The injuries were caused by severe blows to the head, he
said.

Heddings, in a letter to Big Brother skateboard magazine in March 2003,
proclaimed his innocence: "I want everyone in the world to know how
proud I am of my son; how proud I am to have been his father. I thank
the powers that be for the time I got to spend with him," Heddings wrote
in his plea for support.

"I want to let the world know one other thing: Me and my girlfriend
didn't hurt my boy, let alone murder him. We don't belong in jail and we
need to get out of here."

Early Love of Skating

The Riverside County Jail is far different from the inviting
three-bedroom home where Heddings was raised, in the Quaker-founded town
of New- berg. The home's gravel driveway is lined with the Portland
area's signature rosebushes, and yellow and green walnut and apple trees
surround the house.

Just before he turned 10, Heddings received a green plastic skateboard
as a Christmas present. He tried wrestling, baseball and football, but
none held his interest like skating, said his mother, Shirley Bookey of
Portland. Heddings left for California the day after high school ended,
hoping to join up with the world's great skaters.

He never competed in ESPN's X Games or other heavily sponsored, highly
promoted national skateboarding events, but his skating skills still
brought in enough money to live on.

Heddings earned $30,000 to $50,000 a year over the last decade,
according to his mother.

He has performed in competitions and demonstrations in Europe, Asia and
Australia as a member of a skate team sponsored by Independent Truck Co.
of Santa Cruz. He remains a sponsored rider for Randoms Hardware, a
skateboard company in Encinitas that still sells "Heddings" bolts —
decorated with pentagrams.

Although Heddings is a "utility player" and nowhere near the league of
skateboard icon Tony Hawk, he has earned a loyal following because of
his "hard edge" and anti-establishment attitude, said Vans spokesman
Chris Overholser. "He was at his peak when he was arrested, at his best
ever," said Sean Lafferty, a longtime friend from Portland.

Marcus' mother said her young son was always thrilled to watch his
father wow the crowd at one of his favorite San Diego County skateboard
parks.

When Moyer was given some of Marcus' cremated ashes, she went to the
park and sprinkled them next to the concrete.


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Walker wrote:

>
> ą wrote:
> > ordosclan wrote:
> >>
> >> ą <h0plib...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:<41A98B40...@hotmail.com>...
> >>> The Magnificent Bastard wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Have you ever seen this guy on his show on MTV?
> >>>
> >>> Nope.
> >>
> >> Youve seen the game commercial.
> >
> > Since the days of the original Bones Brigade, I've been acquainted
> > with
> > quite a few pro skateboarders. Most of them are either dead or doing
> > time for murdering women - I've no doubt this Bam Margera *is* white
> > trash, if he's a moderately famous pro skateboarder as Maggie claims
> > he
> > is.
> >
> >
>
> Hmm.... Humpty, is "h0plibbb_oili" a skateboarding reference?

No - but keep trying.

Shuurai

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No Name <no...@blank.com> wrote in message news:<kg3iq0l7us4oeg3o3...@4ax.com>...

> Sat, 27 Nov 2004 14:48:00 -0500 Hey look over there it's The
> Magnificent Bastard <magnif_...@hotmail.com> Oh my god look what
> he did, he posted a message on usenet:
>
> >Have you ever seen this guy on his show on MTV? <SNIP>
>
> Everyone reading this thread you are getting trolled, MB is a known
> usenet troll.

Ya don't fuckin' say?

Toth Andras

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Dav <davth...@hotmale.com> wrote:
>You should live near me. You'd be hard-pushed to find a chav whose
>daily routine doesn't consist of bothering people for money and
>cigarettes, harassing people who dress differently to them, mindless
>vandalism or shoplifting. Perhaps all the 'free-minded' chavs stay at
>home pondering the nature of existence instead of sitting with fifteen
>other guys and their underaged girlfriends in a bus shelter getting
>pissed on cider and thorwing stones at passers-by?

Man, this sounds just like a description of punks!

a.

Park Luck

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no, they're gay.

evan

PzX

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bam is my obession,i cant live without em
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