If you say the word "pardon" enough, it loses its meaning
DeanDTSM
overdose in 1966, was given a posthumous gubernatorial pardon today
for the obscenity conviction that some supporters believe hastened his
demise.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/23/nyregion/23CND-BRUC.html?ex=1072846800&en=d518198e3eb267b0&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE
-DeanDTSM
www.deandeanandtheSEXmachines.com
Park Luck
>From: Dean...@optonline.net (DeanDTSM)
>Date: 12/23/2003 7:57 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <3fe8e341...@news.optonline.com>
>
>Lenny Bruce, the pioneering, ribald comedian who died of a drug
>overdose in 1966, was given a posthumous gubernatorial pardon today
>for the obscenity conviction that some supporters believe hastened his
>demise.
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/23/nyregion/23CND-BRUC.html?ex=1072846800&
en=d518198e3eb267b0&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE
In related news, a gang of pardons rioted in Cincinnati today.
evan
GENE
I heard Lenny Bruce decribe a dog's dick as a lipstick.
I thought that was funny.
Graves
DarrinT68
>> Lenny Bruce, the pioneering, ribald comedian who died of a drug
>> overdose in 1966, was given a posthumous gubernatorial pardon today
>> for the obscenity conviction that some supporters believe hastened his
>>demise.
>http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/23/nyregion/23CND-BRUC.html?ex=1072846800&
en=d518198e3eb267b0&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE>>
Dean, when mentioning a "sweet," the birth name (if applicable) must always
follow the stage name!eheee ie. Lenny Bruce, b. Leonard Alfred Schneider, NY.
Do you think it's just a coincidence that the first "shock comedian" just
happened to be Jewish? Bruce was the Jim Morrison of comedy. The first in his
field to fight for the basic principles of our first amendment. Incidental
note: Fellow sweet Dustin Hoffman (IMHO, the greatest American actor of the
20th century - and one who has far greater range than De Niro!eh - waving to
Gob! LOL!) gives a spectacular performance as Bruce in "Lenny". -D, NYC "In
1979, Time magazine estimated that 80% of all professional comedians were
Jewish, yet Jews comprised a measly 2% of the American populace"
The Bloody Sheep
>follow the stage name!eheee ie. Lenny Bruce, b. Leonard Alfred Schneider, NY.
>Do you think it's just a coincidence that the first "shock comedian" just
>happened to be Jewish? Bruce was the Jim Morrison of comedy. The first in his
>field to fight for the basic principles of our first amendment. Incidental
>note: Fellow sweet Dustin Hoffman (IMHO, the greatest American actor of the
>20th century - and one who has far greater range than De Niro!eh - waving to
>Gob! LOL!) gives a spectacular performance as Bruce in "Lenny". -D, NYC "In
>1979, Time magazine estimated that 80% of all professional comedians were
>Jewish, yet Jews comprised a measly 2% of the American populace"
Yawn. The "I'm a Jew" schtick has well worn out its welcome. Yeah, we get it.
You think the Jews are better than everyone. Great. Anything else you'd like to
say, or are you truly a one-trick pony? In terms of nationality/race, we're
all equal. I don't think Yahweh er whatever, would be to pleased with you
incessant chest-thumping anyway. So... fuck off!
Tim D.
Remembering why I hardly ever post.
JimConnell
>to
>say, or are you truly a one-trick pony?
He's not a one-trick pony at all.
But trust me, you REALLY REALLY don't want to see any of his other tricks.
-jimc
darr...@aol.com
> Yawn. The "I'm a Jew" schtick has well worn out its welcome. Yeah, we get it. > You think the Jews are better than everyone. Great. Anything else you'd like to> say, or are you truly a one-trick pony? In terms of nationality/race, we're> all equal. I don't think Yahweh er whatever, would be to pleased with you> incessant chest-thumping anyway. So... f*ck off!> Tim D.
> Remembering why I hardly ever post.>>
Er...DICK (eh), don't yawn for too long - SARS might sneak in! LOL!
Er, are you still KVETCHING over the rightful praising of the Jews?eh
Let me see if I have you correct: The only time that you utter a peep,
is when someone praises the Jews!?eh I am the sole reason why you no
longer post, yet you don't seem to have a problem when Kevin
Anderson/Docmartian (resident neo-Nazi) spews vicious anti-Semitic
propaganda!? You must share the same wonderful thought process as
Joanie. By her own admission, this is what she once inferred: "I have
no idea what anyone is talking about (she once said this in reference
to a discussion about Israel), but I always manage to know one thing -
I must attack Darrin!" eheee
Overlooking your inferiority-driven remarks, where in the above do I
say that Jews are better than the next creed!? I simply stated that
Lenny Bruce was one of the many pioneering Jewish comedians of the
20th century. Arguably, one of the most influential of his generation.
The same applies to fellow sweet Woody Allen (b. Konigsberg, NYC). ie.
Why hasn't there been one Gentile comedian of the latter 20th century,
who has been able to match his multi-faceted level
of humor? There's no one else like him. He is the Groucho Marx
(another sweet legendary Jew!) of the latter 20th century.
Jews are synonymous with comedy. This is most certain! All in spite
of comprising a measly 1/4 of 1% of the world's population. This is
what makes them unique!! Like it or not, there is no great MITZVAH in
listing the accomplishments of 99% of the non-Jewish world. It doesn't
take an EINSTEIN (guess what religion he was?ehe) to excel in this
world when you comprise the majority of its populace!! Realism, not
racism! Truth before sensitivity shall set your ilk free!!
Yes, while it may be a political incorrect kind of chauvinism to say
that Jews are better than anyone else, one thing is certain - history
does not lie. Jews are still the wealthiest ethnic group in America.
Jews are significantly over represented in the most prestigious and
well-paying professions. Jews still win more Nobel prizes in medicine
& science than any other religion. Jews still score higher on IQ tests
& College Board entry exams. Jews have & continue to exert an
influence on world civilization more profound and lasting than any
other ancient culture. Jews are still universally acknowledged as the
source of many of the major religions of the world. Jews are still the
oldest of any people on earth, still around with their national
identity and cultural heritage intact. Jews are still the most
persecuted peoples on the planet. Jews still comprise the smallest
population of any of the major religions (Judaism being the most
influential religion of 'em all) of the world, while still being able
to disproportionately excel in every field of human endeavor.
It is not because Jews believe that they are better than Gentiles.
It's simply because Jews have always cherished education & hard work.
Unlike many other minorities, Jews never cried in their beer. Jews
have always been victims of their own successes. Jews should not be
penalized for taking advantage of
the "you snooze, you lose!" motto. Jews should not have to make
excuses for their remarkable accomplishments, just to appease you and
your PC-driven ilk. Boy, there must be a lot of chest-thumping going
on, because I am not alone in praising my people. In fact, a Gentile
recently did that very thing: As Joe McCain (author, lecturer,
historian, brother of Senator John McCain) said in his "The Jews Will
Not Go Quietly Again," .."The modern United States,
in spite of itself, IS The United States in part because of its Jewish
blood"
Ironically, your ilk is constantly reinforcing our superiority! Each
time you KVETCH at our accomplishments. Each time you assume the
worst! ie. I mention a benign remark about Lenny Bruce, and you
respond by cursing at me! You respond by believing that I am better
than you! Unfortunately for you, there are clear differences when
comparing intellect & socioeconomic status among the creeds. In terms
of disproportionate success & intellect, Jews ARE smarter than
Gentiles. Let's begin with John Derbyshire (Gentile) of The National
Review:
"It's anti-Semitic to point out that Jews are smarter than Gentiles?
Gimme a break! Who doesn't know that Jews are smarter than Gentiles?
Newsweek (8/21/00) gives the Jewish population of the U.S. at two
percent. Does anybody think that the number of Jewish lawyers, college
professors, successful businessmen, mathematicians, is two percent?
Anybody? How can it be offensive to say something so dazzlingly
obvious? If I were Jewish, I'd be flattered to hear this. For the
record, I consider myself a philosemite. It has been truly said (by
Paul Johnson in his "History of the Jews") that if you take almost
anything - science, law, philosophy, literature, medicine, music - and
track it back to its roots, you will find Jews there, or at least meet
an awful lot of them along the way. I am a big fan of Western
Civilization: and I know - again, who doesn't know? - that the debt we
Gentiles owe to the Jews is colossal, and can never be repaid. No
doubt I shall now get letters explaining to me that this opinion, too,
is "anti-Semitic". Another thing you learn writing for the public is
that anything whatsoever that you say about Jews or Jewishness is
"anti-Semitic" to somebody out there." On to Dr. Thomas Sowell, an
African-American economist and senior fellow at the Hoover institute,
who created a point-scale index that graphed Jewish economic success
compared with that of other ethnic groups:
(U.S. Average = 100)
JEWISH 172
JAPANESE 132
POLISH 115
CHINESE 112
ITALIAN 112
GERMAN 107
ANGLO-SAXON 107
IRISH 103
FILIPINO 99
WEST INDIAN 94
MEXICAN 76
PUERTO RICAN 63
BLACK 62...
On to Mr. Steven Silbiger's (accountant/Master's in Business
Administration from the Darden Graduate School of Business
Administration at the University of Virginia) "The Phenomenon Of The
Jews" (2000)....
1) The percentage of Jewish households with income greater than
$50,000 is double that of non-Jews.
2) On the other hand, the percentage of Jewish households with income
less than $20,000 is half that of non-Jews.
3) The Jewish advantage in economic status persists to the present
day; it remains higher than that of white Protestants and Catholics,
even among households of similar age, composition and location.
4) 45% of the top 40 of the Forbes 400 richest Americans are Jewish.
5) 1/3 of American multimillionaires are tallied as Jewish.
6) 20% of professors at leading universities are Jewish.
7) 40% of partners in the leading law firms in New York and Washington
are Jewish.
8) 30% of American Nobel prize winners in science and 25% of all
American Nobel winners are Jewish.
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/Judaism/nobels.html
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1076.cfm
http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/dialogue.htm
http://home.comcast.net/~neoeugenics/poj.htm
DarrinT68
>From: jimco...@aol.com (JimConnell)
>Date: 12/31/03 10:17 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <20031231221715...@mb-m10.aol.com>
Unless he's a she, don't tell him about my autofellation expertise! ehehe LOL!
He doesn't know it yet, but I'm hung like a circumcised horse! ehe -D, NYC "The
#1 adult performer of all-time is Jewish" - RON "The Hedgehog" JEREMY (b.
Hyatt, L.I., NY)
FuryGeo
God Bless You!
The Bloody Sheep
>Er, are you still KVETCHING over the rightful praising of the Jews?eh
>Let me see if I have you correct: The only time that you utter a peep,
>is when someone praises the Jews!?e
No. I don't even remember the last topic I posted about here.
> I am the sole reason why you no
>longer post, yet you don't seem to have a problem when Kevin
>Anderson/Docmartian (resident neo-Nazi) spews vicious anti-Semitic
>propaganda!?
Not you solely, but this type of waste-of-time bullshit.
If a white guy starts spouting off about white power, I'll jump on it too. I
usually just avoid those posts because its just flamebait.
> Overlooking your inferiority-driven remarks, where in the above do I
>say that Jews are better than the next creed!?
Haha. Inferiority-driven? Right. The 5 minutes I'll waste writing this must
pale in comparison to the endless hours you must spend on Usenet, making sure
all your posts have enough "eheehe" 's. Trust me, Im not looking to be you.
>The same applies to fellow sweet Woody Allen (b. Konigsberg, NYC). ie.
>Why hasn't there been one Gentile comedian of the latter 20th century,
>who has been able to match his multi-faceted level
>of humor?
Hell, I'd take Conan O'Brien over Woody Allen in terms of pure humor AND being
multi-faceted. Woody Allen never wrote for The Simpsons, or had a daily show
which must be consistently funny to be sucessful.
>There's no one else like him. He is the Groucho Marx
>(another sweet legendary Jew!) of the latter 20th century.
Maybe, but thats not a bad thing. If I want to deal with a neurotic, I'll just
call my mom.
>Jews ARE smarter than
>Gentiles.
If I said this in reverse, I'd be anti-Semitic. Does that make you
anti-Gentilic? You'll just "I'm just using the facts ehee"... just like the
White Power fuck-o's pulling data suggesting Blacks are inferior, when in
reality, its predominantly a socioeconomic problem.
>Let's begin with John Derbyshire (Gentile) of The National
>Review:
> "It's anti-Semitic to point out that Jews are smarter than Gentiles?
>Gimme a break! Who doesn't know that Jews are smarter than Gentiles?
Wow. One white guy said this. It must be true.
>Newsweek (8/21/00) gives the Jewish population of the U.S. at two
>percent. Does anybody think that the number of Jewish lawyers, college
>professors, successful businessmen, mathematicians, is two percent?
>Anybody? How can it be offensive to say something so dazzlingly
>obvious?
Again. Socioeconomic status. People with money can make money more easily. I
have no statistics, so this very well could get thrown back in my face, but I
would venture to say the Jews in this country have a disproportionate share of
the wealth. Theres nothing wrong with that. If you work hard, you should be
rewarded regardless who you are. The fact that they have access to better
education increases those ratios of doctors and lawyers, etc. Not that they
are smarter necessarily.
>I am a big fan of Western
>Civilization: and I know - again, who doesn't know? - that the debt we
>Gentiles owe to the Jews is colossal, and can never be repaid. No
>doubt I shall now get letters explaining to me that this opinion, too,
>is "anti-Semitic".
Thats not anti-Semitic at all. Its over-Semitic if anything. Hey, I love the
Jews! I love pretty much everybody (am i a hippy?). But I don't think I really
owe anyone anything, aside from some friends and family.
Tim D.
DarrinT68
>If I said this in reverse, I'd be anti-Semitic. Does that make
you>anti-Gentilic? You'll just "I'm just using the facts ehee"... just like
the>White Power fuck-o's pulling data suggesting Blacks are inferior, when
in>reality, its predominantly a socioeconomic problem.>
With one grave difference: Unlike white supremacists, Jews have legitimate
reasons to take pride in their people. Pride that is based on perseverance,
success & intellect - not on the color of one's eyes
or hair. Pride that relies on brains, not brawn! There's absolutely nothing
wrong with taking pride in your religion. Provided that you actually have
something to be proud of....
> >Let's begin with John Derbyshire (Gentile) of The National>>Review:>> "It's
anti-Semitic to point out that Jews are smarter than Gentiles? >>Gimme a break!
Who doesn't know that Jews are smarter than Gentiles? >
>Wow. One white guy said this. It must be true.<<
One of many! It goes far behind his article: "Ten Things You Can't Say In
America." I see that you conveniently overlooked the studies on Jewish success,
in relation to other groups of people, eh? A convenient quoter, eh?ehe I assume
that Steven Silbiger & Dr. Thomas Sowell (African-American) must also have no
clue, eh!? Or the countless historians, sociologists, etc., who all come to the
same conclusion: In terms of disproportionate success & influence, Jews are
still at the top of the heap, king of the hill, A number 1! eh...
>>Newsweek (8/21/00) gives the Jewish population of the U.S. at two >>percent.
Does anybody think that the number of Jewish lawyers, college>>professors,
successful businessmen, mathematicians, is two percent?>>Anybody? How can it be
offensive to say something so dazzlingly >>obvious?>
>Again. Socioeconomic status. People with money can make money more
easily.>I>have no statistics, so this very well could get thrown back in my
face, but I>would venture to say the Jews in this country have a
disproportionate share>of>the wealth. Theres nothing wrong with that. If you
work hard, you should be>rewarded regardless who you are. The fact that they
have access to better>education increases those ratios of doctors and lawyers,
etc. Not that they>are smarter necessarily>>
I provided all of the statistical links, including Jewish Nobel winners and
Jewish success in relation to other groups of people. Jews are not smarter by
birth! However, their cultural and intellectual heritage - even outside of its
original religious context - has predisposed them to better prepare themselves
intellectually than, perhaps, do the heritages of other cultural groups. Jews
shall continue to be unique, because they have been able to achieve so much, in
spite of the overwhelming odds against them. -D, NYC "On the recent College
Boards, Jews averaged 1161. Unitarians did somewhat better (1209), but the
national average was 1020. At the elite Ivy League schools, Jews make up 23
percent of the student body. They are a measly 2 percent of the U.S.
population." - RICHARD COHEN ("A Study In Differences" - Washington Post)...
http:.//www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A18130-2002May27.html
DarrinT68
>Date: 1/2/04 1:16 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <20040102011642...@mb-m18.aol.com>
>>The same applies to fellow sweet Woody Allen (b. Konigsberg, NYC). ie.>>Why
hasn't there been one Gentile comedian of the latter 20th century,>>who has
been able to match his multi-faceted level>>of humor?>>
>Hell, I'd take Conan O'Brien over Woody Allen in terms of pure humor AND>being
>multi-faceted. Woody Allen never wrote for The Simpsons, or had a daily show
>which must be consistently funny to besucessful.>
YUTZ face, before Woody became a household name, he was one of the original
writers for Sid Caesar's (sweet NYer) "Your Show Of Shows." The first sketch
comedy show in television history. Broadcast live from NYC! As the famous
saying goes, "First there was "Your Show of Shows," then came everything else."
Once again, drop me a line when Conan is able to write, direct, produce & star
in his own films. The same films that have become etched in our pop culture
psyche. While I love Conan (The David Letterman of his generation), he is still
a million miles away from Woody. Even Conan himself would tell you so! eheeee
-D, NYC "What was most striking about Woody Allen's humor...is that this Jewish
anxiety at the center of his wit touched something alive in America at the
moment and went out beyond us...It made Jews of Gentiles...It meshed so
perfectly with the deepest undercurrents of feeling in the national life that
it made outsiders of us all.." - VIVIAN GORNICK (Village Voice)
The Bloody Sheep
>reasons to take pride in their people. Pride that is based on perseverance,
>success & intellect - not on the color of one's eyes
>or hair. Pride that relies on brains, not brawn!
Right. Because white people have never accomplished anything that didn't
involve the use of force. *Any* sort of racial pride is ridiculous. You
should really only pride in things *YOU* have accomplished.
>There's absolutely nothing
>wrong with taking pride in your religion. Provided that you actually have
>something to be proud of....
Basically, Jews do and Christians don't? I'm an atheist, so I'm not gonna
stick up for any religion, but that is an asanine statement. Proud of yourself
for holding important religious tenets true... great! You should be proud.
Proud that the tenets exist... thats just dumb. Sorry.
> It goes far behind his article: "Ten Things You Can't Say In
>America." I see that you conveniently overlooked the studies on Jewish
>success,
>in relation to other groups of people, eh? A convenient quoter, eh?
I'm not going to indulge every single diatribe you make in your long-winded
posts.
I can respect your points on Jews not being smarter by birth, but rather by
culture. Actually, I think that misunderstanding sparked the arguement. But I
bet you'd be pretty annoyed if I spent all my time cluttering up this place
with all the accomplishments the Germans (my own geneology), or whites in
general. It would get OLD. Like your posts on how great Jews are. The horse
is long since dead. Stop kicking it.
Tim D.
The Bloody Sheep
Always nice to open with the name calling. Since we're playing that game, you
are now Shit-for-Brains (SFB) from now on.
before Woody became a household name, he was one of the original
>writers for Sid Caesar's (sweet NYer) "Your Show Of Shows." The first sketch
>comedy show in television history. Broadcast live from NYC!
So famous, I'd never even heard of it, SFB.
As the famous
>saying goes, "First there was "Your Show of Shows," then came everything
>else."
Again, a saying so famous... aww nevermind.
>Once again, drop me a line when Conan is able to write, direct, produce &
>star
>in his own films. The same films that have become etched in our pop culture
>psyche.
Everyone? Ha. You don't get out of NYC much do you? The rest of America, by
and large, doesn't care about Woody Allen. Thats why his movies generally tank
now when they come out. Aside from Sleeper, it almost seems like the same
movie which slightly different actors/characters. Yawn. Yeah, Conan hasn't
done it... yet. Who says he won't? I wouldn't sell a Harvard-educated man
with his resume short.
While I love Conan (The David Letterman of his generation), he is
>still
>a million miles away from Woody. Even Conan himself would tell you so! eheeee
>-D, NYC \
You're right SFB, Conan probably would say Woody was better. He doesn't seem
the bragging type, and he hasn't been around as long... or slept with a teenage
foster child yet.
Look, I'm not interested in having a Conan v. Woody arguement. All I'm saying
is that when it comes down to your posts and actions in this ng, to borrow a
phrase, you're a schmuck.
Tim D.