American Heartbreak tour
Teenage Head HQ
tour.
April 6 sees the start of US sensation rockers American Heartbreak
(www.americanheartbreak.com) - support on selected dates comes from Jerky
Turkey (France) and The Revolvers (D)
Here are the dates. Knock yourselves out on this undoubtedly last chance to
see them in a club and check out their album to be released on Radio Blast
Recs.
6/4/01 Kontich - Belgium @ Lintfabriek + US Bombs
7/4/01 Hannover - Germany @ Bei Chez Heinz
8/4/01 Hamburg - Germany @ Knust + The Revolvers (D)
11/4/01 Dusseldorf - Germany @ Burgerhaus Bilk
12/4/01 Erfurt - Germany @ Engelsburg
13/4/01 Rosswein - Germany @ Jugendhaus
14/4/01 Berlin - Germany @ Wild at Heart
15/4/01 Mainz - Germany @ Caveau + Generation Fuck (D)
17/4/01 Vienna - Austria @ Triebwerk
18/4/01 Kutina - Croatia @ Klub KCM
19/4/01 Koprivnica - Croatia @ Kuglana
20/4/01 Milano - Italy @ Deposito Bulk
21/4/01 Torino - Italy @ El Paso
24/4/01 Marseille - France @ La Machine à Coudre
25/4/01 Bordeaux - France @ venue tba
26/4/01 St Hilaire - France @ Le Cabriole
27/4/01 Rotterdam - Holland @ Waterfront
28/4/01 Diksmuide - Belgium @ 4AD
29/4/01 Orleans - France @ Sissy bar
30/4/01 Pau - France @ tbc
2/5/01 Aveiro City - Portugal @ Hard Bar
3/5/01 Porto - Portugal @ Hard Club
4/5/01 Madrid - Spain @ Gruta '77 + The Agency (USA)
5/5/01 Castellon - Spain + The Agency
6/5/01 Irun - Spain @ Tunk + The Agency
7/5/01 Montpellier - France @ Subsonic + The Agency
8/5/01 Séléstat - France @ Le Tigre + The Revolvers (D)
9/5/01 Switzerland tba
10/5/01 München - Germany @ A5 + The Revolvers (D)
11/5/01 Germany @ tba
12/5/01 Dortmund - Germany @ Keller + The Revolvers (D)
13/5/01 Erfurt - Germany @ AJZ tbc + The Revolvers (D)
Need more info ? in...@teenage-head.com
Johnny Blunders
wrote:
BUT DO THEY COME OUT WEST AND PLAY SEATTLE??? NO!!! FUCK EUROPA!!!
I NEED TEENAGE HEAD!!!
(but don't we all really)
As you can see, I'm still pissed that we're missing them by 2 nights
in Toronto...
LaManna
LaManna Cornuda
DAMMIT! I'm a friggin' idjit...I check out el website and it is NOT
Teenage Head, but a booking company called Teenage Head...kinda
confusing...my apologies to the European fans of Teenage Head that I
may have misled and to Teenage Head themselves...now just come out to
Seattle...
LaManna
Ugly Pop
>On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:02:02 GMT, "Teenage Head HQ" <ma...@pandora.be>
>wrote:
>
>>Hi folks. It's time for another smashing TeenAge Head
(www.teenage-head.com)
>>tour.
>BUT DO THEY COME OUT WEST AND PLAY SEATTLE??? NO!!! FUCK EUROPA!!!
>
>I NEED TEENAGE HEAD!!!
>
>(but don't we all really)
>
>As you can see, I'm still pissed that we're missing them by 2 nights
>in Toronto...
Yeah, but these mooks have nothing to do with the band-- they've also
borrowed the Groovies LP title for their booking agency. Great way to
confuse everyone, cheeseheads.
Anyways, Frankie just got out of gaol in time for the Toronto gig, so don't
count on too many US shows any time soon.
Simon XXX
Doublespeak
Johnny Blunders wrote:
Damn, these Rotterdam fuckers are upstaging us once again.
Toth Andras
>Damn, these Rotterdam fuckers are upstaging us once again.
At least foreign bands do go to your country...
Over here there's not even a place where they could play.
a.
--
"Az átlagfazonokat utálom, tétlenül ülni nem jó
Számomra ez a kurva hely rosszabb, mint a gettó
Mert én botrányhős akarok lenni, botrányhős akarok lenni" -- PICSA
Doublespeak
Toth Andras wrote:
> Doublespeak <yardsale...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Damn, these Rotterdam fuckers are upstaging us once again.
>
> At least foreign bands do go to your country...
>
> Over here there's not even a place where they could play.
So what? Start your own band, start your own club. I was under the
impression that you didn't like them yanks anyway. Hell, even I am
having second thoughts about my penchant for American bands, given the
current import of faggy, screamy emo bands à la At the Drive In.
Corey Barr
>Doublespeak <yardsale...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Damn, these Rotterdam fuckers are upstaging us once again.
>
>At least foreign bands do go to your country...
>
>Over here there's not even a place where they could play.
Dude, Budapest is the capital of foreign porno, isn't it? Why don't you take
your money and make porno instead?
--
Corey Barr's product placement:
Canada Dry Diet Cranberry Ginger Ale
It's one fine carbonated beverage!
ultrabean
Ugly Pop wrote
> Anyways, Frankie just got out of gaol
You guys really spell it like that?
How very 1642.
Toth Andras
>Dude, Budapest is the capital of foreign porno, isn't it?
Is it really? I only know that there's a lot of porn produced
over here and it's of quite good quality too.
>Why don't you take your money and make porno instead?
Well, you've just pointed out that there's already a vast
supply of porn. Aren't there supposed to be better investment
opportunities in a field where there's dire shortage?
a.
Hmmm, I don't think so either.
--
"Mert én botrányhős akarok lenni" -- PICSA
Toth Andras
>> >Damn, these Rotterdam fuckers are upstaging us once again.
>> At least foreign bands do go to your country...
>> Over here there's not even a place where they could play.
>So what? Start your own band
Why do everyone want me to? What if I don't particularly feel
like it? What if I'd be a shitty musician (even for punk)
anyway?
I think the hungarian scene is better off with me being
the sucker fan who will pay even to see bands with friends
in them.
>start your own club.
Oh, please. There are some (sort of) friends of mine who are
actually trying to put together such a club. They've found a
place about a month ago, but then after 2 weeks they got kicked
out from there. Actually I was still under the influence of
that when I wrote it.
>I was under the impression that you didn't like them yanks anyway.
All that because of a single silly little post of mine?
What happened to alt.punk?
Though you're right of course. So what? European bands don't
come either.
a.
--
"I'm going for a walk and there's nothing you can do
coz I don't have to live like you" -- Bad Religion
Doublespeak
>
> Oh, please. There are some (sort of) friends of mine who are
> actually trying to put together such a club. They've found a
> place about a month ago, but then after 2 weeks they got kicked
> out from there. Actually I was still under the influence of
> that when I wrote it.
Still, so what? I can imagine it's a kick in the cunt if the cops shut
down a venue, but whining about it isn't going to help. Isn't playing
snakes and ladders with the authorities for a place to play part of the
attraction of being a punk? At least that's what it was when I was 16,
but I might not be so hip to what punk is anymore. I mean, the main
reason why punk never really took off in Holland was that everything is
so goddamn permissive here. You didn't have the English middle-class
complacency or the mind-numbing tediousness of the Californian suburbs
to rebel against. Instead you would have some denim-clad, bearded social
worker who'd encourage you to go ahead and 'express yourself'. That is
partly the reason why most young Dutch punks are so lame: emo geeks in
baggy trousers who'll just buy the latest Epitaph release and refuse to
go to a gig if the band is not some overhyped former metal band that has
been airing on MTV for six weeks.
>
> >I was under the impression that you didn't like them yanks anyway.
>
> All that because of a single silly little post of mine?
> What happened to alt.punk? Though you're right of course. So what?
> European bands don't come either.
Actually, it's more that 'Campaign to Convince the Yanks to Nuke
Themselves In Order to Save the Earth' which is – dare I say it? – a bit
stupid. Admittedly, I've been known to rag on the krauts here, but in
the end it's all stereotypes and bullshit, isn't it? How many Americans
do you know in real life? Sure, they can be the proverbial overfed and
underread lardasses who watch way too much TV, and I'm still waiting for
that chipmunk they've elected president to sign that CO2 treaty. But you
can't just lump them all together under the common denominator 'Yank'.
Have you ever come across a 'European'? If so, be sure to tell me.
Oh well, you'll probably disagree with me on all points, being the angry
young man you are. Which is a compliment, I guess. But if you're serious
about this, drop me a line and I'll send you some Dutch and German
underground punk. Not that any of those bands will ever be signed by
those arrogant Epitaph Amsterdam fuckers, but some of them would be
perfectly happy to tour Hungary on a shoestring.
Ugly Pop
>> >start your own club.
>>
>> Oh, please. There are some (sort of) friends of mine who are
>> actually trying to put together such a club. They've found a
>> place about a month ago, but then after 2 weeks they got kicked
>> out from there. Actually I was still under the influence of
>> that when I wrote it.
>
>Still, so what? I can imagine it's a kick in the cunt if the cops shut
>down a venue, but whining about it isn't going to help. Isn't playing
>snakes and ladders with the authorities for a place to play part of the
>attraction of being a punk? At least that's what it was when I was 16,
>but I might not be so hip to what punk is anymore. I mean, the main
>reason why punk never really took off in Holland was that everything is
>so goddamn permissive here. You didn't have the English middle-class
>complacency or the mind-numbing tediousness of the Californian suburbs
>to rebel against. Instead you would have some denim-clad, bearded social
>worker who'd encourage you to go ahead and 'express yourself'. That is
>partly the reason why most young Dutch punks are so lame: emo geeks in
>baggy trousers who'll just buy the latest Epitaph release and refuse to
>go to a gig if the band is not some overhyped former metal band that has
>been airing on MTV for six weeks.
Hey, this might be the case now, as just about everywhere-- but it certainly
wasn't in the heyday. Dutch punk was probably on average the most political
and militant happening anywhere. THE EX, RONDOS, BGK, LARM, PANDEMONIUM,
NOG WATT, NO PIGS, NEUROOT, INDIREKT, GEPOPEL etc were all furious lefty
hardcore bands, and Emma was the most notorious squatted gig space/community
centre in Europe, right? Anyways, I find those politics tiresome and I'd
rather listen to the RAMONES anyday, but the fact remains that Dutch punk
"took off" in the manner being discussed here to a degree it did in very few
other places.
Simon XXX
Doublespeak
Ugly Pop wrote:
Although I must compliment you on your knowledge of Dutch hardcore, I have to
disagree with you on that. When punk first broke in '77, it hardly managed to
dent the comfortably self-indulgent hippydom that still pervaded the Netherlands
at the end of the 70s. The few decent bands that did crop up were either largely
ignored (Ivy Green, still one of the best punk bands ever to come out of
Holland), signed their own death warrants by signing to major labels (Flying
Spiders) or were just too disorganized to amount to anything (Jesus & the
Gospelfuckers). As a result, Dutch punk of the 70s - even in Amsterdam - was
never a patch on the wealth of British punk to come out of London (Pistols,
Damned, Clash, Damned, Adverts) or influential American bands like the Ramones,
Dead Boys, etc.
Now as the eighties dawned, Dutch punk did take off in the sense that it evolved
into a furious lefty hardcore scene in Amsterdam with punk bulwarks like Emma
and Gallery No Fun. Although this militant squatter/punk movement nearly managed
to plunge the country in a state of martial law - most notably on 1980's
Coronation Day - it was relatively small in size and even lead to a divide
between the radical politipunks and those who thought punk could also be about
arsing about and drinking beer. Dutch punk never took off in the sense that it
failed to produce any bands that are still worth listening to nowadays. I don't
know if you're familiar with the compilation "I'm Sure We're Gonna Make It:
Dutch Punk 1977-1982) which offers a rather comprehensive overview of the bands
of that era. Most of those bands (such as the RONDOS) are fairly mediocre,
mainly due to the Dutch penchant for sloganeering and taking the moral high
ground with anyone who disagrees.
BGK are still the best Dutch hardcore band to this day (which is fairly well
documented by the compilation "A Dutch Feast" on AT), The Ex fell back to an
excruciatingly boring Jazz/Experimental/Punk melange and the rest of those bands
mostly lived up to Jello Biafra's expectation "Harder core than thou for a year
of two until it's time to get a real job". There have been some great Dutch punk
albums (e.g. Dandruff's "Four-15-E") that can hold their own with
American/English/Canadian bands, but in the end they still remain carbon copies
of those same bands.
Ugly Pop
>
>Ugly Pop wrote:
>> Hey, this might be the case now, as just about everywhere-- but it
certainly
>> wasn't in the heyday. Dutch punk was probably on average the most
political
>> and militant happening anywhere. THE EX, RONDOS, BGK, LARM, PANDEMONIUM,
>> NOG WATT, NO PIGS, NEUROOT, INDIREKT, GEPOPEL etc were all furious lefty
>> hardcore bands, and Emma was the most notorious squatted gig
space/community
>> centre in Europe, right? Anyways, I find those politics tiresome and I'd
>> rather listen to the RAMONES anyday, but the fact remains that Dutch punk
>> "took off" in the manner being discussed here to a degree it did in very
few
>> other places.
>
>Although I must compliment you on your knowledge of Dutch hardcore, I have
to
>disagree with you on that. When punk first broke in '77, it hardly managed
to
>dent the comfortably self-indulgent hippydom that still pervaded the
Netherlands
>at the end of the 70s. The few decent bands that did crop up were either
largely
>ignored (Ivy Green, still one of the best punk bands ever to come out of
>Holland),
A bop bop shoo wop, dood!
>signed their own death warrants by signing to major labels (Flying Spiders)
Were they ever a real punk band? I thought they'd just tried to cash in on
the craze.
>or were just too disorganized to amount to anything (Jesus & the
>Gospelfuckers). As a result, Dutch punk of the 70s - even in Amsterdam -
was
>never a patch on the wealth of British punk to come out of London (Pistols,
>Damned, Clash, Damned, Adverts) or influential American bands like the
Ramones,
>Dead Boys, etc.
Well, yeah-- but you haven't got anywhere near the population or-- as in the
UK-- a well-developed and internationally-monitored media anxious to jump on
any fad in the world for 30 seconds and mythologize every crap trendoid band
in the process.
>Now as the eighties dawned, Dutch punk did take off in the sense that it
evolved
>into a furious lefty hardcore scene in Amsterdam with punk bulwarks like
Emma
>and Gallery No Fun. Although this militant squatter/punk movement nearly
managed
>to plunge the country in a state of martial law - most notably on 1980's
>Coronation Day - it was relatively small in size and even lead to a divide
>between the radical politipunks and those who thought punk could also be
about
>arsing about and drinking beer.
Well, yeah-- but this is what I'm talking about. Dutch punk might not have
been particularly musically memorable, 15 years later (although the LARM
side of the split with STANX is a fucking ripper still), and its politics
might have been woefully inadequate to take it beyond music-scene-rooted
squatter nonsense, but on the level of independence and self-management, it
was definitely as on top of things as any other scene I can recall.
>Dutch punk never took off in the sense that it
>failed to produce any bands that are still worth listening to nowadays. I
don't
>know if you're familiar with the compilation "I'm Sure We're Gonna Make It:
>Dutch Punk 1977-1982) which offers a rather comprehensive overview of the
bands
>of that era. Most of those bands (such as the RONDOS) are fairly mediocre,
>mainly due to the Dutch penchant for sloganeering and taking the moral high
>ground with anyone who disagrees.
I can still dig some of the earlier Dutch hardcore stuff--
NEO-PUNKZ/SUSPENSE, AMSTERDAMNED, NOXIOUS etc-- and some later stuff like
BGK, LARM, NO PIGZ and FRITES MODERN, but the majority of Dutch outfits
seemed to go for the million-mile-an-hour thrash barrage, and didn't really
pull that off as convincingly as, say, the Japanese or Americans.
>BGK are still the best Dutch hardcore band to this day (which is fairly
well
>documented by the compilation "A Dutch Feast" on AT), The Ex fell back to
an
>excruciatingly boring Jazz/Experimental/Punk melange and the rest of those
bands
>mostly lived up to Jello Biafra's expectation "Harder core than thou for a
year
>of two until it's time to get a real job". There have been some great Dutch
punk
>albums (e.g. Dandruff's "Four-15-E") that can hold their own with
>American/English/Canadian bands, but in the end they still remain carbon
copies
>of those same bands.
I wish I had a real job. Anyways, I really liked that first BREZHNEV 7" and
Kangaroo is a great label, so we won't give up on you guys quite yet.
Simon XXX
Zac
<3ACCAB1A...@hotmail.com>:
Ivy green!
I love these guys. Somehow this record got pushed to the back of my
collection so it hasn't received play in ages. Definitely the first
thing I play when I get home though.
-Zac
Jon K.
>
> I wish I had a real job. Anyways, I really liked that first BREZHNEV 7"
> and
> Kangaroo is a great label, so we won't give up on you guys quite yet.
>
> Simon XXX
>
> http://www.uglypop.com
>
>
As well as Coalition.
(which is who you might mean...)
Jon K.
Doublespeak
> (Ivy Green, still one of the best punk bands ever to come out of
> >Holland),
>
> A bop bop shoo wop, dood!
'Tis with a teary eye that I admit that hardly any of the Dutch youngsters
nowadays would be able to recognize that as the chorus to one of the few Dutch
punk classics we have.
You, Sir, know your punk.
> (Flying Spiders)
>
> Were they ever a real punk band? I thought they'd just tried to cash in on
> the craze.
Yes, they were a joke. IIRC, they were some jaded beat combo that couldn't get a
record deal for love or money, so they jumped on the bandwagon as soon as they
got the chance. Bit like the Strangers, but without the talent. The music
division of Philips, which has never been a company to pass up on the
opportunity to make a quick buck, signed them and then dropped them like a bad
habit after the punk fad passed.
> Well, yeah-- but this is what I'm talking about. Dutch punk might not have
> been particularly musically memorable, 15 years later (although the LARM
> side of the split with STANX is a fucking ripper still), and its politics
> might have been woefully inadequate to take it beyond music-scene-rooted
> squatter nonsense, but on the level of independence and self-management, it
> was definitely as on top of things as any other scene I can recall.
And this is where you may have blown a big gaping hole in my argument indeed. I
was so eager to moan about the piss-poor quality of Dutch punk in general that I
failed to realize that the punk movement did produce some great DIY labels,
movie houses and other hellholes that were a great place to hang out for a young
punk like myself coming up in the late eighties. I even cut my teeth on playing
live in a squat (and nearly fucking broke them because of all the beer bottles
flying about). Must have been around the same I saw those crazy Canadians
Nomeansno for the first time, after which I soon decided that my countrymen
could keep their crummy punk and their soapbox anarchism.
>
> I can still dig some of the earlier Dutch hardcore stuff--
> NEO-PUNKZ/SUSPENSE, AMSTERDAMNED, NOXIOUS etc-- and some later stuff like
> BGK, LARM, NO PIGZ and FRITES MODERN, but the majority of Dutch outfits
> seemed to go for the million-mile-an-hour thrash barrage, and didn't really
> pull that off as convincingly as, say, the Japanese or Americans.
I'm still amazed that you're familiar with those bands, but you're right. LARM,
AMSTERDAMNED and FRITES MODERN were the notable exceptions to the grey mass of
Dutch hc bands, who basically all sounded like shitty outtakes from 'Millions of
Dead Cops"
> I wish I had a real job. Anyways, I really liked that first BREZHNEV 7" and
> Kangaroo is a great label, so we won't give up on you guys quite yet.
It is sad but true, although there have been some memorable efforts by HUMAN
ALERT, BAMBIX and SEEIN' RED in recent years, while small labels like Vitamin
Pills and Toccata Records continue to stick it to the Man. Oh well, we'll just
keep fighting the good fight until phony Beatlemania finally bites the dust
here.
Ugly Pop
>>
>> (Ivy Green, still one of the best punk bands ever to come out of
>> >Holland),
>>
>> A bop bop shoo wop, dood!
>
>'Tis with a teary eye that I admit that hardly any of the Dutch youngsters
>nowadays would be able to recognize that as the chorus to one of the few
Dutch
>punk classics we have.
Just another subculture is going bad, huh? I'm going to be even more of a
geek now and add that I also really like the LPs IVY GREEN released circa
'85-'87-- deny your nation's heritage all you want, but how many first-wave
punk bands from other countries were putting out records as strong as 'All
on the beat' in 1985?
>You, Sir, know your punk.
Thank you. Always a favourite topic for me. Another Dutch fave--
"Heidigger, Heidigger, Heidigger, Heidigger!"....what are those guys up to
know?
>Must have been around the same I saw those crazy Canadians
>Nomeansno for the first time, after which I soon decided that my countrymen
>could keep their crummy punk and their soapbox anarchism.
I sat through EX twice when they opened for NOMEANSNO here, so I know the
score. THE EX are a really big deal with the critical elite here, though.
Punk-disdaining wine-sippers love them.
>> I can still dig some of the earlier Dutch hardcore stuff--
>> NEO-PUNKZ/SUSPENSE, AMSTERDAMNED, NOXIOUS etc-- and some later stuff like
>> BGK, LARM, NO PIGZ and FRITES MODERN, but the majority of Dutch outfits
>> seemed to go for the million-mile-an-hour thrash barrage, and didn't
really
>> pull that off as convincingly as, say, the Japanese or Americans.
>
>I'm still amazed that you're familiar with those bands, but you're right.
LARM,
>AMSTERDAMNED and FRITES MODERN were the notable exceptions to the grey mass
of
>Dutch hc bands, who basically all sounded like shitty outtakes from
'Millions of
>Dead Cops"
I've also got to add the first AGENT ORANGE 7" as a real Dutch hardcore
classic, and cite the much-loved PANDEMONIUM as supporting your "shitty MDC
outtake" argument. Ah, but I'm sure their hearts were in the right place.
>> I wish I had a real job. Anyways, I really liked that first BREZHNEV 7"
and
>> Kangaroo is a great label, so we won't give up on you guys quite yet.
>
>It is sad but true, although there have been some memorable efforts by
HUMAN
>ALERT, BAMBIX and SEEIN' RED in recent years, while small labels like
Vitamin
>Pills and Toccata Records continue to stick it to the Man.
I've never really been a SEEIN' RED fan, probably because I generally like
my punk to have a bit more humour and a little less dogma, but I hear
they're unbeatable live.
>Oh well, we'll just keep fighting the good fight until phony Beatlemania
finally
>bites the dust here.
Well, just to get even more historical-- you guys were fighting that good
fight with Q65 and all that crazy Dutch freakbeat shit long before the
RAMONES/DAMNED/SAINTS/TEENAGE HEAD were even old enough to pick up guitars,
so cut your compatriots some slack!
Simon XXX
Ugly Pop
>[snip]
>>
>> I wish I had a real job. Anyways, I really liked that first BREZHNEV 7"
>> and
>> Kangaroo is a great label, so we won't give up on you guys quite yet.
>As well as Coalition.
>
>(which is who you might mean...)
No, I like Coalition, but a lot of people have beefs with them, and some of
them seem justified.
Simon XXX
Staniforth.
Ugly Pop <bast...@interlog.com> wrote in message
news:0B6z6.43263$9O3.9...@news.total.net...
> score. THE EX are a really big deal with the critical elite here, though.
> Punk-disdaining wine-sippers love them.
I just bought the new Ex album and I like it ok. It's not mind blowing, but
it's a good listen.
Then again, I've been listening to a lot of Crass lately, so take my musical
evaluations with a grain of salt.
--
"And since the Church condones capital punishment,
I want them to stop bitching about Jesus getting nailed up."
-- Lenny Bruce
Doublespeak
> geek now and add that I also really like the LPs IVY GREEN released circa
> '85-'87-- deny your nation's heritage all you want, but how many first-wave
> punk bands from other countries were putting out records as strong as 'All
> on the beat' in 1985?
Stop it, please! I'm starting to feel like to a spotty 14-year old who just
bought 'Dookie'.
> Well, just to get even more historical-- you guys were fighting that good
> fight with Q65 and all that crazy Dutch freakbeat shit long before the
> RAMONES/DAMNED/SAINTS/TEENAGE HEAD were even old enough to pick up guitars,
> so cut your compatriots some slack!
I know, I used to discard Q65 and Brainbox as 60s hippy shit, but it turned out
that some of their stuff rocks just as hard, if not harder, than MC5 or what
have you. And it's still mindblowing to hear George Baker's "Little Green Bag"
play over the opening titles to Reservoir Dogs in the knowledge that he let out
that embarrassing fart "Una Paloma Blanca" just a few years later.
Krumins
ORATION, OUTRAGEOUS, SECOND AUSCHWITZ, NOSONG KUTKOTZ, and OUTSIDERS, as
other bands from Holland worth listening to. Also, Plurex Records had a few
good old ones in the late 70"s.
Coming next : BONNIE STE CLAIRE & UNIT GLORIA discussion.
To Doublespeak : Is "Lovin' Lola" by WEETJEWEL available on any reissue
these days? Supposedly that's the song the KINKS ripped, for "Lola."
Imants.
Toth Andras
>Still, so what? I can imagine it's a kick in the cunt if the cops shut
>down a venue
It wasn't that bad. The cops weren't involved at all, only the owner
decided he didn't like them so much anymore.
It's just that when I started to go to shows (95-97) there were
a few stable places for punk. After 98 not only did fat wreck lookalike
bands pop up everywhere, but also the best places were sold/closed
down, and punk shows can only get shitty dates in the remaining.
As I've said, I know people who are trying to change that, but
with limited success. (I'm not a native of Budapest, and I've just
came back here to work recently, so I really don't think I could
do better than them...)
>> >I was under the impression that you didn't like them yanks anyway.
>> All that because of a single silly little post of mine?
>Actually, it's more that 'Campaign to Convince the Yanks to Nuke
>Themselves In Order to Save the Earth' which is dare I say it? a bit
>stupid.
Hehehe. Isn't being stupid the point of custom org. headers?
Anyway, I thought that even fewer people read these than .sigs,
so thanks for noticing it.
>Admittedly, I've been known to rag on the krauts here, but in
>the end it's all stereotypes and bullshit, isn't it? How many Americans
>do you know in real life?
In real life, not many. Like about none.
But I think 5 years of on-line exposure to their... erm... unusual
ideas on some things is enough. And by that I mean very different
sources.
>Sure, they can be the proverbial overfed and
>underread lardasses who watch way too much TV, and I'm still waiting for
>that chipmunk they've elected president to sign that CO2 treaty.
Actually the CO2 bullshit (by clinton's men in Dec.) following the
election thing[1] so closely was the last straw for me. I had been
*very* pissed off at them for a while then. That was when I changed
my previous org. header to the current silliness (though it was too
old anyway), but I didn't have time to post for a while.
That's how I came up with the half-serious idea that we could
handle the radiation resulting from nuking them more easily
than the continued environmental and social damage caused by the
policies of their govt. -- which, may I add, the population
doesn't seem to be quite inclined to change.
But I'd like to point out that I don't advocate a violent action
from outside, I want them to realise their error, and rectify it
themselves. ;)
>Oh well, you'll probably disagree with me on all points, being the angry
>young man you are.
Please, I've already told you, this is alt.punk.
>But if you're serious
>about this, drop me a line and I'll send you some Dutch and German
>underground punk. Not that any of those bands will ever be signed by
>those arrogant Epitaph Amsterdam fuckers, but some of them would be
>perfectly happy to tour Hungary on a shoestring.
Well, said friends of mine tell me they could bring lots of foreign
bands if they had a place too.
a.
[1] And I don't mean the recount fiasco, which was just a joke. I was
pissed off at them because they dumped Nader. Because the typical
corrupt politician still barely beat the drooling retard controlled
by evil plutocrats. Because the remaining naderites are so fucking
stupid, that they can't see that "instant runoff" is the stupidest
voting system ever conceived of.
Sorry for the rant, I just missed being able to post all this at its
time very badly.
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"In meiner Badewanne bin ich Kapitän" -- NoRMAhl