On the cover of National Review: 50 Greatest Conservative Rock Songs
Milhouse Authentico
===
The June issue of National Review has it. The NR website has it
complete with links to buy. No Zappa, no Springsteen (a number of
bloggers have opined that the Cons were burned by the liberal attitude
of the singer of 'Born in the USA' when they judged the singer by the
song), but have a look for yourself:
Rockin' the Right
The 50 greatest conservative rock songs.
By John J. Miller
Neil Young has a new song called "Let's Impeach the President."
Last year, the Rolling Stones made news with "Sweet Neo Con,"
another anti-Bush ditty. For conservatives who enjoy rock, it isn't
hard to agree with the opinion Johnny Cash expressed in "The One on
the Right Is on the Left": "Don't go mixin' politics with the
folk songs of our land / Just work on harmony and diction / Play your
banjo well / And if you have political convictions, keep them to
yourself." In other words: Shut up and sing.
But some rock songs really are conservative - and there are more of
them than you might think. Last year, I asked readers of National
Review Online to nominate conservative rock songs. Hundreds of
suggestions poured in. I've sifted through them all, downloaded
scores of mp3s, and puzzled over a lot of lyrics. What follows is a
list of the 50 greatest conservative rock songs of all time, as
determined by me and a few others. The result is of course arbitrary,
though we did apply a handful of criteria.
What makes a great conservative rock song? The lyrics must convey a
conservative idea or sentiment, such as skepticism of government or
support for traditional values. And, to be sure, it must be a great
rock song. We're biased in favor of songs that are already popular,
but have tossed in a few little-known gems. In several cases, the
musicians are outspoken liberals. Others are notorious libertines. For
the purposes of this list, however, we don't hold any of this against
them. Finally, it would have been easy to include half a dozen songs by
both the Kinks and Rush, but we've made an effort to cast a wide net.
Who ever said diversity isn't a conservative principle?
So here are NR's top 50 conservative rock songs of all time. Go ahead
and quibble with the rankings, complain about what we put on, and send
us outraged letters and e-mails about what we left off. In the end,
though, we hope you'll admit that it's a pretty cool playlist for
your iPod.
1. "Won't Get Fooled Again," by The Who.
The conservative movement is full of disillusioned revolutionaries;
this could be their theme song, an oath that swears off naïve idealism
once and for all. "There's nothing in the streets / Looks any
different to me / And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye. . . . Meet
the new boss / Same as the old boss." The instantly recognizable
synthesizer intro, Pete Townshend's ringing guitar, Keith Moon's
pounding drums, and Roger Daltrey's wailing vocals make this one of
the most explosive rock anthems ever recorded - the best number by a
big band, and a classic for conservatives.
2. "Taxman," by The Beatles.
A George Harrison masterpiece with a famous guitar riff (which was
actually played by Paul McCartney): "If you drive a car, I'll tax
the street / If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat / If you get too
cold, I'll tax the heat / If you take a walk, I'll tax your
feet." The song closes with a humorous jab at death taxes: "Now my
advice for those who die / Declare the pennies on your eyes."
3. "Sympathy for the Devil," by The Rolling Stones.
Don't be misled by the title; this song is The Screwtape Letters of
rock. The devil is a tempter who leans hard on moral relativism - he
will try to make you think that "every cop is a criminal / And all
the sinners saints." What's more, he is the sinister inspiration
for the cruelties of Bolshevism: "I stuck around St. Petersburg /
When I saw it was a time for a change / Killed the czar and his
ministers / Anastasia screamed in vain."
4. "Sweet Home Alabama," by Lynyrd Skynyrd.
A tribute to the region of America that liberals love to loathe, taking
a shot at Neil Young's Canadian arrogance along the way: "A
Southern man don't need him around anyhow."
5. "Wouldn't It Be Nice," by The Beach Boys.
Pro-abstinence and pro-marriage: "Maybe if we think and wish and hope
and pray it might come true / Baby then there wouldn't be a single
thing we couldn't do / We could be married / And then we'd be
happy."
6. "Gloria," by U2.
Just because a rock song is about faith doesn't mean that it's
conservative. But what about a rock song that's about faith and whose
chorus is in Latin? That's beautifully reactionary: "Gloria / In te
domine / Gloria / Exultate."
7. "Revolution," by The Beatles.
"You say you want a revolution / Well you know / We all want to
change the world . . . Don't you know you can count me out?"
What's more, Communism isn't even cool: "If you go carrying
pictures of Chairman Mao / You ain't going to make it with anyone
anyhow." (Someone tell the Che Guevara crowd.)
8. "Bodies," by The Sex Pistols.
Violent and vulgar, but also a searing anti-abortion anthem by the
quintessential punk band: "It's not an animal / It's an
abortion."
9. "Don't Tread on Me," by Metallica.
A head-banging tribute to the doctrine of peace through strength,
written in response to the first Gulf War: "So be it / Threaten no
more / To secure peace is to prepare for war."
10. "20th Century Man," by The Kinks.
"You keep all your smart modern writers / Give me William Shakespeare
/ You keep all your smart modern painters / I'll take Rembrandt,
Titian, da Vinci, and Gainsborough. . . . I was born in a welfare state
/ Ruled by bureaucracy / Controlled by civil servants / And people
dressed in grey / Got no privacy got no liberty / 'Cause the
20th-century people / Took it all away from me."
11. "The Trees," by Rush. ; buy CD on Amazon.com
Before there was Rush Limbaugh, there was Rush, a Canadian band whose
lyrics are often libertarian. What happens in a forest when equal
rights become equal outcomes? "The trees are all kept equal / By
hatchet, axe, and saw."
12. "Neighborhood Bully," by Bob Dylan.
A pro-Israel song released in 1983, two years after the bombing of
Iraq's nuclear reactor, this ironic number could be a theme song for
the Bush Doctrine: "He destroyed a bomb factory, nobody was glad /
The bombs were meant for him / He was supposed to feel bad / He's the
neighborhood bully."
13. "My City Was Gone," by The Pretenders.
Virtually every conservative knows the bass line, which supplies the
theme music for Limbaugh's radio show. But the lyrics also display a
Jane Jacobs sensibility against central planning and a conservative's
dissatisfaction with rapid change: "I went back to Ohio / But my
pretty countryside / Had been paved down the middle / By a government
that had no pride."
14. "Right Here, Right Now," by Jesus Jones.
The words are vague, but they're also about the fall of Communism and
the end of the Cold War: "I was alive and I waited for this. . . .
Watching the world wake up from history."
15. "I Fought the Law," by The Crickets.
The original law-and-order classic, made famous in 1965 by The Bobby
Fuller Four and covered by just about everyone since then.
16. "Get Over It," by The Eagles.
Against the culture of grievance: "The big, bad world doesn't owe
you a thing." There's also this nice line: "I'd like to find
your inner child and kick its little ass."
17. "Stay Together for the Kids," by Blink 182.
A eulogy for family values by an alt-rock band whose members were
raised in a generation without enough of them: "So here's your
holiday / Hope you enjoy it this time / You gave it all away. . . .
It's not right."
18. "Cult of Personality," by Living Colour.
A hard-rocking critique of state power, whacking Mussolini, Stalin, and
even JFK: "I exploit you, still you love me / I tell you one and one
makes three / I'm the cult of personality."
19. "Kicks," by Paul Revere and the Raiders.
An anti-drug song that is also anti-utopian: "Well, you think
you're gonna find yourself a little piece of paradise / But it
ain't happened yet, so girl you better think twice."
20. "Rock the Casbah," by The Clash.
After 9/11, American radio stations were urged not to play this 1982
song, one of the biggest hits by a seminal punk band, because it was
seen as too provocative. Meanwhile, British Forces Broadcasting Service
(the radio station for British troops serving in Iraq) has said that
this is one of its most requested tunes.
21. "Heroes," by David Bowie.
A Cold War love song about a man and a woman divided by the Berlin
Wall. No moral equivalence here: "I can remember / Standing / By the
wall / And the guns / Shot above our heads / And we kissed / As though
nothing could fall / And the shame / Was on the other side / Oh we can
beat them / For ever and ever."
22. "Red Barchetta," by Rush.
In a time of "the Motor Law," presumably legislated by green
extremists, the singer describes family reunion and the thrill of
driving a fast car - an act that is his "weekly crime."
23. "Brick," by Ben Folds Five.
Written from the perspective of a man who takes his young girlfriend to
an abortion clinic, this song describes the emotional scars of
"reproductive freedom": "Now she's feeling more alone / Than
she ever has before. . . . As weeks went by / It showed that she was
not fine."
24. "Der Kommissar," by After the Fire.
On the misery of East German life: "Don't turn around, uh-oh / Der
Kommissar's in town, uh-oh / He's got the power / And you're so
weak / And your frustration / Will not let you speak." Also a hit
song for Falco, who wrote it.
25. "The Battle of Evermore," by Led Zeppelin.
The lyrics are straight out of Robert Plant's Middle Earth period -
there are lines about "ring wraiths" and "magic runes" - but
for a song released in 1971, it's hard to miss the Cold War metaphor:
"The tyrant's face is red."
26. "Capitalism," by Oingo Boingo.
"There's nothing wrong with Capitalism / There's nothing wrong
with free enterprise. . . . You're just a middle class, socialist
brat / From a suburban family and you never really had to work."
27. "Obvious Song," by Joe Jackson.
For property rights and economic development, and against liberal
hypocrisy: "There was a man in the jungle / Trying to make ends meet
/ Found himself one day with an axe in his hand / When a voice said
'Buddy can you spare that tree / We gotta save the world - starting
with your land' / It was a rock 'n' roll millionaire from the USA
/ Doing three to the gallon in a big white car / And he sang and he
sang 'til he polluted the air / And he blew a lot of smoke from a
Cuban cigar."
28. "Janie's Got a Gun," by Aerosmith.
How the right to bear arms can protect women from sexual predators:
"What did her daddy do? / It's Janie's last I.O.U. / She had to
take him down easy / And put a bullet in his brain / She said 'cause
nobody believes me / The man was such a sleaze / He ain't never gonna
be the same."
29. "Rime of the Ancient Mariner," by Iron Maiden.
A heavy-metal classic inspired by a literary classic. How many other
rock songs quote directly from Samuel Taylor Coleridge?
30. "You Can't Be Too Strong," by Graham Parker.
Although it's not explicitly pro-life, this tune describes the horror
of abortion with bracing honesty: "Did they tear it out with talons
of steel, and give you a shot so that you wouldn't feel?"
31. "Small Town," by John Mellencamp.
A Burkean rocker: "No, I cannot forget where it is that I come from /
I cannot forget the people who love me."
32. "Keep Your Hands to Yourself," by The Georgia Satellites.
An outstanding vocal performance, with lyrics that affirm old-time
sexual mores: "She said no huggy, no kissy until I get a wedding
vow."
33. "You Can't Always Get What You Want," by The Rolling Stones.
You can "[go] down to the demonstration" and vent your frustration,
but you must understand that there's no such thing as a perfect
society - there are merely decent and free ones.
34. "Godzilla," by Blue öyster Cult.
A 1977 classic about a big green monster - and more: "History shows
again and again / How nature points up the folly of men."
35. "Who'll Stop the Rain," by Creedence Clearwater Revival.
Written as an anti-Vietnam War song, this tune nevertheless is
pessimistic about activism and takes a dim view of both Communism and
liberalism: "Five-year plans and new deals, wrapped in golden chains
. . ."
36. "Government Cheese," by The Rainmakers.
A protest song against the welfare state by a Kansas City band that
deserved more success than it got. The first line: "Give a man a free
house and he'll bust out the windows."
37. "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down," by The Band.
Despite its sins, the American South always has been about more than
racism - this song captures its pride and tradition.
38. "I Can't Drive 55," by Sammy Hagar.
A rocker's objection to the nanny state. (See also Hagar's
pro-America song "VOA.")
39. "Property Line," by The Marshall Tucker Band.
The secret to happiness, according to these southern-rock heavyweights,
is life, liberty, and property: "Well my idea of a good time / Is
walkin' my property line / And knowin' the mud on my boots is
mine."
40. "Wake Up Little Susie," by The Everly Brothers.
A smash hit in 1957, back when high-school social pressures were rather
different from what they have become: "We fell asleep, our goose is
cooked, our reputation is shot."
41. "The Icicle Melts," by The Cranberries.
A pro-life tune sung by Irish warbler Dolores O'Riordan: "I don't
know what's happening to people today / When a child, he was taken
away . . . 'Cause nine months is too long."
42. "Everybody's a Victim," by The Proclaimers.
Best known for their smash hit "I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)," this
Scottish band also recorded a catchy song about the problem of
suspending moral judgment: "It doesn't matter what I do / You have
to say it's all right . . . Everybody's a victim / We're becoming
like the USA."
43. "Wonderful," by Everclear.
A child's take on divorce: "I don't wanna hear you say / That I
will understand someday / No, no, no, no / I don't wanna hear you say
/ You both have grown in a different way / No, no, no, no / I don't
wanna meet your friends / And I don't wanna start over again / I just
want my life to be the same / Just like it used to be."
44. "Two Sisters," by The Kinks.
Why the "drudgery of being wed" is more rewarding than bohemian
life.
45. "Taxman, Mr. Thief," by Cheap Trick.
An anti-tax protest song: "You work hard, you went hungry / Now the
taxman is out to get you. . . . He hates you, he loves money."
46. "Wind of Change," by The Scorpions.
A German hard-rock group's optimistic power ballad about the end of
the Cold War and national reunification: "The world is closing in /
Did you ever think / That we could be so close, like brothers / The
future's in the air / I can feel it everywhere / Blowing with the
wind of change."
47. "One," by Creed. ;
Against racial preferences: "Society blind by color / Why hold down
one to raise another / Discrimination now on both sides / Seeds of hate
blossom further."
48. "Why Don't You Get a Job," by The Offspring.
The lyrics aren't exactly Shakespearean, but they're refreshingly
blunt and they capture a motive force behind welfare reform.
49. "Abortion," by Kid Rock.
A plaintive song sung by a man who confronts his unborn child's
abortion: "I know your brothers and your sister and your mother too /
Man I wish you could see them too."
50. "Stand By Your Man," by Tammy Wynette.
Hillary trashed it - isn't that enough? If you're worried that
Wynette's original is too country, then check out the cover version
by Motörhead.
--
Milhouse Guidry of the mWo
With all the style and finesse of a purchase of armaments.
King of alt.pro-wrestling.dx
mWo. It's not just the coolest, it's fa lyfe, so survey says
whether you like it or don't like it, never E-e-e-ver tell
me he did *not* just SMELL what mWo 3:16 reeks of.
Lord Hatred
Milhouse Authentico <milhouse_...@derekmarvelli.org> wrote:
> this could be their theme song, an oath that swears off naďve idealism
***** troll
--
Stefan:
the Bede
"Milhouse Authentico" <milhouse_...@derekmarvelli.org> wrote in
message news:4e45v2F...@individual.net...
> Probably in need of a point by point refutation.
>
Republican Party--is that it has many different definitions of
"conservative", some of them mutually exclusive. Law&Order v.
Libertarianism, for instance.
Florence Henderson Had A Mullet
And some of the ostensibly conservative songs were intended to be parodies
anyway. Or you can just turn them around on the conservatives, like "Get
Over It". Conservatives like Bush are always the ones who don't want to work
and want to live like a king, so that could just as easily be an
anti-conservative anthem.
--
Buy my book about school bullying here:
http://www.lulu.com/content/112781 (recommended)
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?isbn=1411626559
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1411626559
BOBOBOnoBO®
Fair and balanced.
>
> 2. "Taxman," by The Beatles.
> A George Harrison masterpiece with a famous guitar riff (which was
> actually played by Paul McCartney): "If you drive a car, I'll tax
> the street / If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat / If you get too
> cold, I'll tax the heat / If you take a walk, I'll tax your
> feet." The song closes with a humorous jab at death taxes: "Now my
> advice for those who die / Declare the pennies on your eyes."
I've often said that I wish it'd been Harrison (or McCartney) who'd
been shot instead of Lennon.
>
> 3. "Sympathy for the Devil," by The Rolling Stones.
> Don't be misled by the title; this song is The Screwtape Letters of
> rock. The devil is a tempter who leans hard on moral relativism - he
> will try to make you think that "every cop is a criminal / And all
> the sinners saints." What's more, he is the sinister inspiration
> for the cruelties of Bolshevism: "I stuck around St. Petersburg /
> When I saw it was a time for a change / Killed the czar and his
> ministers / Anastasia screamed in vain."
Fair and balanced.
>
> 4. "Sweet Home Alabama," by Lynyrd Skynyrd.
> A tribute to the region of America that liberals love to loathe, taking
> a shot at Neil Young's Canadian arrogance along the way: "A
> Southern man don't need him around anyhow."
Neil Young actually liked the song, and the band. I disagree with him.
Shit, the guy voted for Reagan.
>
> 5. "Wouldn't It Be Nice," by The Beach Boys.
> Pro-abstinence and pro-marriage: "Maybe if we think and wish and hope
> and pray it might come true / Baby then there wouldn't be a single
> thing we couldn't do / We could be married / And then we'd be
> happy."
Marriage is nice for those whom it suits. Like me for instance. Were
they just having ORAL SEX before marriage?
>
> 6. "Gloria," by U2.
> Just because a rock song is about faith doesn't mean that it's
> conservative. But what about a rock song that's about faith and whose
> chorus is in Latin? That's beautifully reactionary: "Gloria / In te
> domine / Gloria / Exultate."
U2 is crap.
>
> 7. "Revolution," by The Beatles.
> "You say you want a revolution / Well you know / We all want to
> change the world . . . Don't you know you can count me out?"
> What's more, Communism isn't even cool: "If you go carrying
> pictures of Chairman Mao / You ain't going to make it with anyone
> anyhow." (Someone tell the Che Guevara crowd.)
Maybe it's good that guy shot Lennon.
>
> 8. "Bodies," by The Sex Pistols.
> Violent and vulgar, but also a searing anti-abortion anthem by the
> quintessential punk band: "It's not an animal / It's an
> abortion."
Fair and balanced, but only meant to offend.
>
> 9. "Don't Tread on Me," by Metallica.
> A head-banging tribute to the doctrine of peace through strength,
> written in response to the first Gulf War: "So be it / Threaten no
> more / To secure peace is to prepare for war."
Metallica was/is crap.
>
> 10. "20th Century Man," by The Kinks.
> "You keep all your smart modern writers / Give me William Shakespeare
> / You keep all your smart modern painters / I'll take Rembrandt,
> Titian, da Vinci, and Gainsborough. . . . I was born in a welfare state
> / Ruled by bureaucracy / Controlled by civil servants / And people
> dressed in grey / Got no privacy got no liberty / 'Cause the
> 20th-century people / Took it all away from me."
Fair and balanced.
>
> 11. "The Trees," by Rush. ; buy CD on Amazon.com
> Before there was Rush Limbaugh, there was Rush, a Canadian band whose
> lyrics are often libertarian. What happens in a forest when equal
> rights become equal outcomes? "The trees are all kept equal / By
> hatchet, axe, and saw."
Rush was crap.
>
> 12. "Neighborhood Bully," by Bob Dylan.
> A pro-Israel song released in 1983, two years after the bombing of
> Iraq's nuclear reactor, this ironic number could be a theme song for
> the Bush Doctrine: "He destroyed a bomb factory, nobody was glad /
> The bombs were meant for him / He was supposed to feel bad / He's the
> neighborhood bully."
???? I prefer Memphis Blues Again.
>
> 13. "My City Was Gone," by The Pretenders.
> Virtually every conservative knows the bass line, which supplies the
> theme music for Limbaugh's radio show. But the lyrics also display a
> Jane Jacobs sensibility against central planning and a conservative's
> dissatisfaction with rapid change: "I went back to Ohio / But my
> pretty countryside / Had been paved down the middle / By a government
> that had no pride."
And Liberals are to blame?
>
> 14. "Right Here, Right Now," by Jesus Jones.
> The words are vague, but they're also about the fall of Communism and
> the end of the Cold War: "I was alive and I waited for this. . . .
> Watching the world wake up from history."
They're really reaching.
>
> 15. "I Fought the Law," by The Crickets.
> The original law-and-order classic, made famous in 1965 by The Bobby
> Fuller Four and covered by just about everyone since then.
Don't be stupid is not Conservative.
>
> 16. "Get Over It," by The Eagles.
> Against the culture of grievance: "The big, bad world doesn't owe
> you a thing." There's also this nice line: "I'd like to find
> your inner child and kick its little ass."
Ooooh, The Eagles. Fuck them.
>
> 17. "Stay Together for the Kids," by Blink 182.
> A eulogy for family values by an alt-rock band whose members were
> raised in a generation without enough of them: "So here's your
> holiday / Hope you enjoy it this time / You gave it all away. . . .
> It's not right."
Blink is stupid.
>
> 18. "Cult of Personality," by Living Colour.
> A hard-rocking critique of state power, whacking Mussolini, Stalin, and
> even JFK: "I exploit you, still you love me / I tell you one and one
> makes three / I'm the cult of personality."
Boy, I thought that other was reaching.
>
> 19. "Kicks," by Paul Revere and the Raiders.
> An anti-drug song that is also anti-utopian: "Well, you think
> you're gonna find yourself a little piece of paradise / But it
> ain't happened yet, so girl you better think twice."
Anti-drugs isn't anti-utopian.
>
> 20. "Rock the Casbah," by The Clash.
> After 9/11, American radio stations were urged not to play this 1982
> song, one of the biggest hits by a seminal punk band, because it was
> seen as too provocative. Meanwhile, British Forces Broadcasting Service
> (the radio station for British troops serving in Iraq) has said that
> this is one of its most requested tunes.
Hahahahaha. Combat Rock was crap, but again, they misinterpret.
>
> 21. "Heroes," by David Bowie.
> A Cold War love song about a man and a woman divided by the Berlin
> Wall. No moral equivalence here: "I can remember / Standing / By the
> wall / And the guns / Shot above our heads / And we kissed / As though
> nothing could fall / And the shame / Was on the other side / Oh we can
> beat them / For ever and ever."
What a beautiful song, but romantic love is a choice, no?
>
> 22. "Red Barchetta," by Rush.
> In a time of "the Motor Law," presumably legislated by green
> extremists, the singer describes family reunion and the thrill of
> driving a fast car - an act that is his "weekly crime."
Rush? What crap. Plus, I bet they misinterpreted that one too.
>
> 23. "Brick," by Ben Folds Five.
> Written from the perspective of a man who takes his young girlfriend to
> an abortion clinic, this song describes the emotional scars of
> "reproductive freedom": "Now she's feeling more alone / Than
> she ever has before. . . . As weeks went by / It showed that she was
> not fine."
Who the fuck are they?
>
> 24. "Der Kommissar," by After the Fire.
> On the misery of East German life: "Don't turn around, uh-oh / Der
> Kommissar's in town, uh-oh / He's got the power / And you're so
> weak / And your frustration / Will not let you speak." Also a hit
> song for Falco, who wrote it.
What First World Lefty defend(s) (ed) the Soviet-imposed E. German
Govt.? JFK?
>
> 25. "The Battle of Evermore," by Led Zeppelin.
> The lyrics are straight out of Robert Plant's Middle Earth period -
> there are lines about "ring wraiths" and "magic runes" - but
> for a song released in 1971, it's hard to miss the Cold War metaphor:
> "The tyrant's face is red."
Fuck Led Zep.
>
> 26. "Capitalism," by Oingo Boingo.
> "There's nothing wrong with Capitalism / There's nothing wrong
> with free enterprise. . . . You're just a middle class, socialist
> brat / From a suburban family and you never really had to work."
Oooh boy, now they're a real Rock'n Roll band.
>
> 27. "Obvious Song," by Joe Jackson.
> For property rights and economic development, and against liberal
> hypocrisy: "There was a man in the jungle / Trying to make ends meet
> / Found himself one day with an axe in his hand / When a voice said
> 'Buddy can you spare that tree / We gotta save the world - starting
> with your land' / It was a rock 'n' roll millionaire from the USA
> / Doing three to the gallon in a big white car / And he sang and he
> sang 'til he polluted the air / And he blew a lot of smoke from a
> Cuban cigar."
What a BOZO.
>
> 28. "Janie's Got a Gun," by Aerosmith.
> How the right to bear arms can protect women from sexual predators:
> "What did her daddy do? / It's Janie's last I.O.U. / She had to
> take him down easy / And put a bullet in his brain / She said 'cause
> nobody believes me / The man was such a sleaze / He ain't never gonna
> be the same."
I think the band is stupid, but I share the sentiment. It's neither
Liberal nor Conservative.
>
> 29. "Rime of the Ancient Mariner," by Iron Maiden.
> A heavy-metal classic inspired by a literary classic. How many other
> rock songs quote directly from Samuel Taylor Coleridge?
????
>
> 30. "You Can't Be Too Strong," by Graham Parker.
> Although it's not explicitly pro-life, this tune describes the horror
> of abortion with bracing honesty: "Did they tear it out with talons
> of steel, and give you a shot so that you wouldn't feel?"
Reaching.
>
> 31. "Small Town," by John Mellencamp.
> A Burkean rocker: "No, I cannot forget where it is that I come from /
> I cannot forget the people who love me."
A stupid panderer.
>
> 32. "Keep Your Hands to Yourself," by The Georgia Satellites.
> An outstanding vocal performance, with lyrics that affirm old-time
> sexual mores: "She said no huggy, no kissy until I get a wedding
> vow."
Her choice. We like choice.
>
> 33. "You Can't Always Get What You Want," by The Rolling Stones.
> You can "[go] down to the demonstration" and vent your frustration,
> but you must understand that there's no such thing as a perfect
> society - there are merely decent and free ones.
Fair and balanced.
>
> 34. "Godzilla," by Blue öyster Cult.
> A 1977 classic about a big green monster - and more: "History shows
> again and again / How nature points up the folly of men."
The folly of all idealogues?
>
> 35. "Who'll Stop the Rain," by Creedence Clearwater Revival.
> Written as an anti-Vietnam War song, this tune nevertheless is
> pessimistic about activism and takes a dim view of both Communism and
> liberalism: "Five-year plans and new deals, wrapped in golden chains
> . . ."
Maybe it was the Nostadamus (sp?) of Katrina. Bush did a great job
there...wait... no, that was "Brownie."
>
> 36. "Government Cheese," by The Rainmakers.
> A protest song against the welfare state by a Kansas City band that
> deserved more success than it got. The first line: "Give a man a free
> house and he'll bust out the windows."
Were they KC, Kanas? Is that real biology, or Kansas biology?
>
> 37. "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down," by The Band.
> Despite its sins, the American South always has been about more than
> racism - this song captures its pride and tradition.
Pride in their "peculiar institution."
Artemus Aalberg Voinovich
mean anything.
"The Degenerate" Luke Michaels
>> 13. "My City Was Gone," by The Pretenders.
>> Virtually every conservative knows the bass line, which supplies the
>> theme music for Limbaugh's radio show. But the lyrics also display a
>> Jane Jacobs sensibility against central planning and a conservative's
>> dissatisfaction with rapid change: "I went back to Ohio / But my
>> pretty countryside / Had been paved down the middle / By a government
>> that had no pride."
>
> And Liberals are to blame?
Liberals are to blame for everything.
>> 28. "Janie's Got a Gun," by Aerosmith.
>> How the right to bear arms can protect women from sexual predators:
>> "What did her daddy do? / It's Janie's last I.O.U. / She had to
>> take him down easy / And put a bullet in his brain / She said 'cause
>> nobody believes me / The man was such a sleaze / He ain't never gonna
>> be the same."
>
> I think the band is stupid, but I share the sentiment. It's neither
> Liberal nor Conservative.
This one is hilarious. Has nothing to do with it.
--
"The Degenerate" Luke Michaels
BREAK IT DOWN! Degeneration-X!
Charles the baby crusher Paisley
BOBOBOnoBO® wrote:
> Milhouse Authentico wrote:
> > Probably in need of a point by point refutation.
> >
> > ===
>
> > A heavy-metal classic inspired by a literary classic. How many other
> > rock songs quote directly from Samuel Taylor Coleridge?
>
> ????
Samuel Taylor Coleridge, gotta love old Sam, one of the first giant
Junkies, not sure if it was Laudinum, Opium or Morphine he was on but
apparently he would occasionally wander the streets begging people to
give him enemas because of the painful constipation caused by his drug
use.
Brilliant Poet well worth the read.
>
Poot Rootbeer
> I saw this about a week ago. the problem with it--like the
> current Republican Party--is that it has many different
> definitions of "conservative", some of them mutually exclusive.
> Law&Order v. Libertarianism, for instance.
"Law & Order: Libertarianism" is Dick Wolf's worst TV series yet.
-Poot
BOBOBOnoBO®
Artemus Aalberg Voinovich wrote:
> Liberal. Conservative. Right. Left. All meaningless labels. It does not
> mean anything.
What you're saying is that you, personally, don't understand the
concepts. It might behoove you to learn a bit, but maybe you'd like to
stay--however blissfully--ignorant.
Taking You for a Fool
You're a sucker for the Dow Jones.
You believe that their class' interests coincide with your own.
You're a chump, and that ain't cool.
They're taking you for a fool.
They're taking you for a fool.
I see that capital gains
while the working people lose
and I see
how effectively
your ignorance is being used.
You're a sucker for theDow Jones.
You believe that their in-ter-ests coincide with your own.
You're a chump, and that ain't cool.
They're taking you for a fool.
They're taking you for a fool.
They're taking you for a fool.
They're taking you for a fool.
And you, and you, and you, and...
--Bryan
jsl...@utnet.utoledo.edu
and "I Fought the Law" is absurd, and "Wouldn't it be Nice"
and "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" are ridiculous stretches).
Even among the ones that are political, it's hardly uniquely
"conservative" to oppose suburban sprawl or Stalinist/Maoist
Communism (yeah, sure, the late 1960s Beatles were "conservative").
Or to think that divorce might be tough on kids. Or to be sympathetic
to Israel. Interesting that four of the five anti-abortion songs are
by male acts -- and that's assuming one thinks "You Can't Be Too
Strong" is a primarily an anti-abortion song (it's more complicated
than that), or that "Bodies" was meant to do anything besides
shock.
I think the editors really misunderstand the point of view of "Keep
Your Hands to Yourself" - if that song is "conservative," how
about "Paradise by the Dashboard Lights"? And if "Sympathy for
the Devil" is conservative, why is the character that killed JFK a
bad guy? More seriously, I guess these "original intent"
conservative folks don't care about the actual politics of, say, U2,
John Mellencamp, the Sex Pistols, or the Clash, or even David Bowie,
whose "I'm Afraid of Americans" has become a theme song for young
Europeans and others freaked out by Bush.
This list does make me feel better about my long-time loathing of Rush,
which previously was based primarily on Geddy Lee's unbearably
screechy vocals. --Joe
Dr. Squad, M.D.
<jsl...@utnet.utoledo.edu> wrote in message news:1149084006.6...@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
Joe, I respect you; hell I even like you. But if you shit on my late high school/early college years one more time by dissin' Rush we're definitely gonna have a problem.
Squad : jslater :: Snow Dog : Prince By-Tor
FunkyM
Dr. Squad, M.D. writed:
Joe need to be cool or be cast out!
becca
"Charles the baby crusher Paisley" <ajam...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I'm a little confused as to why love of classical art is apparently a
conservative value. They did this on several entries. Have liberals
been advocating burning history and not told me about it?
becca
--
"you dumb fucking idealist." -NavyKurt
Ray Pearson
"Lord Hatred" <lordh...@stopthespamminggmail.com> wrote in message
news:lordhatred-0072E...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
> In article <4e45v2F...@individual.net>,
> by Motörhead.
>
>
>
> ***** troll
>
> --
> Stefan:
ASSHOLE,,,,,,, quote an entire 17KB post for one fucking word... putz
the Bede
>
> This list does make me feel better about my long-time loathing of Rush,
> which previously was based primarily on Geddy Lee's unbearably
> screechy vocals. --Joe
>
jsl...@utnet.utoledo.edu
If "cool" means thinking Rush was/is a great band, then I don't want to
be cool -- and I mean that in a way I suspect wouldn't cause Carlito to
want to spit apples at me. Neil Pert was a flashy drummer and I dug
Kerry Von Erich coming out to "Tom Sawyer," but Geddy Lee is a horrible
vocalist, Alex L. was/is an over-rated guitarist, and I'm getting an
increasing sense of just how bad their lyrics are.--Joe (n.j.) [mWo]
Double T the Legally Blind Referee
>>
>> Joe need to be cool or be cast out!
>
> If "cool" means thinking Rush was/is a great band, then I don't want
> to be cool -- and I mean that in a way I suspect wouldn't cause
> Carlito to want to spit apples at me. Neil Pert was a flashy drummer
> and I dug Kerry Von Erich coming out to "Tom Sawyer," but Geddy Lee is
> a horrible vocalist, Alex L. was/is an over-rated guitarist, and I'm
> getting an increasing sense of just how bad their lyrics are.--Joe
> (n.j.) [mWo]
>
>
fuck rush,i have always hated them.
--
----------------------------------==
Double T the legally blind referee
----------------------------------==
Like you read the bullshit down here
mWO 4 a long time baby
Charles the baby crusher Paisley
becca wrote:
> In article <1149079254.0...@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> "Charles the baby crusher Paisley" <ajam...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Milhouse Authentico wrote:
> > > > Probably in need of a point by point refutation.
> > > >
> > > > ===
> > >
> > > > 29. "Rime of the Ancient Mariner," by Iron Maiden.
> > > > A heavy-metal classic inspired by a literary classic. How many other
> > > > rock songs quote directly from Samuel Taylor Coleridge?
> > >
> > > ????
> >
> > Samuel Taylor Coleridge, gotta love old Sam, one of the first giant
> > Junkies, not sure if it was Laudinum, Opium or Morphine he was on but
> > apparently he would occasionally wander the streets begging people to
> > give him enemas because of the painful constipation caused by his drug
> > use.
> >
> > Brilliant Poet well worth the read.
> >
> >
> > >
> >
I'm a little confused as to why love of classical art is apparently a
conservative value. They did this on several entries. Have liberals
been advocating burning history and not told me about it?
becca
I can't understand it either, especially since it is most often the
reactionary right that is condemning art and literature as subversive.
That is why I loved the STC refrence.. if they knew anything about the
man or his co-horts then they would be up in arms to have him/them
banned.
Just another little bit of hypocracy .. for most of the new breed of US
"conservatives" an interest in art (not to mention a love of it) is
enough to get someone branded dangerously liberal.
Milhouse Authentico
Five asterisks, one word, one proper name and one colon. You dumb
fucking taint-licker.
--
Milhouse Guidry
Stoneco864
This list is like a cute girl saying hi to you and thinking in your
head "dude she wants me"
Dr. Squad, M.D.
<jsl...@utnet.utoledo.edu> wrote in message news:1149096225.4...@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> FunkyM wrote:
>> Dr. Squad, M.D. writed:
>> > <jsl...@utnet.utoledo.edu> wrote in message news:1149084006.6...@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
*snip*
> Alex L. was/is an over-rated guitarist
OH NO YOU DIDN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
David E. Powell
Charles the baby crusher Paisley wrote:
> becca wrote:
> > In article <1149079254.0...@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> > "Charles the baby crusher Paisley" <ajam...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > BOBOBOnoBO® wrote:
> > > > Milhouse Authentico wrote:
> > > > > Probably in need of a point by point refutation.
> > > > >
> > > > > ===
> > > >
> > > > > 29. "Rime of the Ancient Mariner," by Iron Maiden.
> > > > > A heavy-metal classic inspired by a literary classic. How many other
> > > > > rock songs quote directly from Samuel Taylor Coleridge?
> > > >
> > > > ????
> > >
> > > Samuel Taylor Coleridge, gotta love old Sam, one of the first giant
> > > Junkies, not sure if it was Laudinum, Opium or Morphine he was on but
> > > apparently he would occasionally wander the streets begging people to
> > > give him enemas because of the painful constipation caused by his drug
> > > use.
> > >
> > > Brilliant Poet well worth the read.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
>
> I'm a little confused as to why love of classical art is apparently a
> conservative value. They did this on several entries. Have liberals
> been advocating burning history and not told me about it?
>
> becca
>
>
> I can't understand it either, especially since it is most often the
> reactionary right that is condemning art and literature as subversive.
Not really. "PC" wasn't invented by conservatives. There is plenty of
art censorship to go around. Mostly conservatives that get mad about it
these days want to cut public art funding and get more wild artists to
find a private sponsor. Liberals often want authors boycotted or fired
from companies where they are privately sponsored. Ask yourself if
"B;azing Saddles" could be made today, and if now, whether "liberals"
or "conservatives" would be more upset by it.
> That is why I loved the STC refrence.. if they knew anything about the
> man or his co-horts then they would be up in arms to have him/them
> banned.
Well heck, not really. It isn't like people are trying to ban Sherlock
Holmes books either, even though Sir Doyle had the guy doing drugs.
> Just another little bit of hypocracy .. for most of the new breed of US
> "conservatives" an interest in art (not to mention a love of it) is
> enough to get someone branded dangerously liberal.
Yeah, all those Conservatives who called for Mel Gibson's career to end
when he made the Passion. Right.
Dr. Squad, M.D.
"the Bede" <rspwsow...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:U5kfg.39803$qd2....@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
*You're* loony, you Immanuel-Kant-lovin', anti-capitalist, statist, societal conforming, anti-Canadian, left-wing, Ayn Rand hating LAWYER!
Squad, figures Bede only disagrees with the loony part. :)
BOBOBOnoBO®
Rush was crap. Bands that had logos and shit, and played arenas with
laser light shows all sucked. I think I like Joe too.
Which NG you posting from.
> > >
> > >
> > > Squad : jslater :: Snow Dog : Prince By-Tor
> >
> > Joe need to be cool or be cast out!
>
> If "cool" means thinking Rush was/is a great band, then I don't want to
> be cool -- and I mean that in a way I suspect wouldn't cause Carlito to
> want to spit apples at me. Neil Pert was a flashy drummer and I dug
> Kerry Von Erich coming out to "Tom Sawyer," but Geddy Lee is a horrible
> vocalist, Alex L. was/is an over-rated guitarist, and I'm getting an
> increasing sense of just how bad their lyrics are.
In the late 70s I had to spend countless hours getting the Rush out of
my band's rhythm guitarist's right hand.
--Joe (n.j.) [mWo]
--Bryan
Jason Todd
> Probably in need of a point by point refutation.
HELLFUCKINYEAH!!!
>
The June issue of National Review has it. The NR website has it
> complete with links to buy.
Conservatives make me laugh with shit like this. Rock and Roll was
FOUNDED on anti-conservativism, anti-Nazism, anti-Racism, and
anti-Fascism, all the things Repubs (Ok the Religious Wackos anyway)
hold so near and dear to their hearts. As Repubs spend most of their
free time shitting on Hollywood, Broadway, and Rock and Roll you'd
think a true believer would want nothing to do with a list like this.
But apparently the editors wanted to show that they can be cool too:
>
> Rockin' the Right
> The 50 greatest conservative rock songs.
>
>
>
> What makes a great conservative rock song? The lyrics must convey a
> conservative idea or sentiment, such as skepticism of government or
> support for traditional values.
And again I ask, if Repubs hate government so much WHY DO THEY RUN FOR
OFFICE AND TRY TO DOMINATE IT.?!?!?!?!
In several cases, the
> musicians are outspoken liberals. Others are notorious libertines.
For the purposes of this list, however, we don't hold any of this
against
> them.
What a fucking cop-out. I'm still going to point this out in each list.
Finally, it would have been easy to include half a dozen songs by
> both the Kinks and Rush, but we've made an effort to cast a wide net.
> Who ever said diversity isn't a conservative principle?
Um, let see, every black person who had police dogs sicced on them, the
Jews who were kept out of country clubs and certain colleges, the gays
who watched
as Reagan let millions of them die -- shall I go on??
>
> 1. "Won't Get Fooled Again," by The Who.
> The conservative movement is full of disillusioned revolutionaries;
There's so much wrong with this sentence alone...
> 2. "Taxman," by The Beatles.
> A George Harrison masterpiece
Again with the so-called hatred of taxes by Repubs. Without which we
wouldn't
be able to afford wars like Vietnam and Iraq.
> 3. "Sympathy for the Devil," by The Rolling Stones.
> Don't be misled by the title; this song is The Screwtape Letters of
> rock.
In other words, an allegory. Jesus.
>
> 4. "Sweet Home Alabama," by Lynyrd Skynyrd.
> A tribute to the region of America that liberals love to loathe, taking
> a shot at Neil Young's Canadian arrogance along the way: "A
> Southern man don't need him around anyhow."
Yep, there's no liberals in the south. BTW, Ronnie Van Zant also
has a song "Saturday Night Special". Have you heard that one?
> 5. "Wouldn't It Be Nice," by The Beach Boys.
> Pro-abstinence and pro-marriage: "Maybe if we think and wish and hope
> and pray it might come true / Baby then there wouldn't be a single
> thing we couldn't do / We could be married / And then we'd be
> happy."
Funny I thought you guys hated California and surfers.
Oh well, I'm pretty sure Brian Wilson votes Republican.
> 6. "Gloria," by U2.
> Just because a rock song is about faith doesn't mean that it's
> conservative. But what about a rock song that's about faith and whose
> chorus is in Latin? That's beautifully reactionary: "
Whadafuck?
> 7. "Revolution," by The Beatles.
> "You say you want a revolution / Well you know / We all want to
> change the world . . . Don't you know you can count me out?"
> What's more, Communism isn't even cool: "If you go carrying
> pictures of Chairman Mao / You ain't going to make it with anyone
> anyhow." (Someone tell the Che Guevara crowd.)
Actually Lennon (didn't you guys hate his guts IIRC??) was lumping
Commies, dictators, militarists, and racists in the same boat.
"If you want money for people with minds that hate/All I can tell ya is
brother you have to wait."
> 8. "Bodies," by The Sex Pistols.
> Violent and vulgar, but also a searing anti-abortion anthem by the
> quintessential punk band: "
Of course. God Knows no Republican ever got/paid for an abortion.
Who ever thought John Lydon would be on a list like this??
> 9. "Don't Tread on Me," by Metallica.
> A head-banging tribute to the doctrine of peace through strength,
> written in response to the first Gulf War: "So be it / Threaten no
> more / To secure peace is to prepare for war."
"Land Mine/Has Taken My Speech/Taken My Eyes/Taken My Arms/
Taken My Legs/Left Me Life in Hell"
> 10. "20th Century Man," by The Kinks.
> Got no privacy got no liberty /
a -HEM. Couldn't agree more with that one.
> 11. "The Trees," by Rush. ; buy CD on Amazon.com
> Before there was Rush Limbaugh, there was Rush, a Canadian band whose
> lyrics are often libertarian.
True Libertarians. Who are of course so beloved by the Wacko Faction of
the Right.
>
> 12. "Neighborhood Bully," by Bob Dylan.
> A pro-Israel song released in 1983, two years after the bombing of
> Iraq's nuclear reactor,
Because all liberals are anti-Jewish and anti-Israel.
>
> 13. "My City Was Gone," by The Pretenders.
> Virtually every conservative knows the bass line, which supplies the
> theme music for Limbaugh's radio show.
And Rush has to pay pro-feminist, pro-vegetarian/animal rights activist
Chrissie Hynde royalities for it! LOL! !
But the lyrics also display a
> Jane Jacobs sensibility against central planning and a conservative's
> dissatisfaction with rapid change: "I went back to Ohio / But my
> pretty countryside / Had been paved down the middle / By a government
> that had no pride."
But wait a minute now -- isn't that anti-capitalism? I mean, who gives
a fuck about the
environment when we need another shopping mall?
> 14. "Right Here, Right Now," by Jesus Jones.
> The words are vague, but they're also about the fall of Communism and
> the end of the Cold War:
Might have thought he'd have a problem with the name.
> 15. "I Fought the Law," by The Crickets.
> The original law-and-order classic, made famous in 1965 by The Bobby
> Fuller Four and covered by just about everyone since then.
Fascist anthem.
> 16. "Get Over It," by The Eagles.
> Against the culture of grievance: "The big, bad world doesn't owe
> you a thing." There's also this nice line: "I'd like to find
> your inner child and kick its little ass."
Now this is valid: The one-time desperadoes reached middle age, and
embarked on several money grubbing "Reunion/Farewell" tours charging
$125 a pop for the nosebleeds seats. So you can definitely -- oh wait,
Don Henley gave most of his money to preserve some PARK??!?!? Fucking
tree-huggers...!
> 17. "Stay Together for the Kids," by Blink 182.
> A eulogy for family values by an alt-rock band whose members were
> raised in a generation without enough of them:
Because God knows Conservatives NEVER get divorced...
>
> 18. "Cult of Personality," by Living Colour.
> A hard-rocking critique of state power, whacking Mussolini, Stalin, and
> even JFK: "I exploit you, still you love me / I tell you one and one
> makes three
Could be a modern day indictment against the Chimperor. Especially the
"I tell you one and one makes three" part. Time to overthrow those
damned activist mathematicians!
> 19. "Kicks," by Paul Revere and the Raiders.
> An anti-drug song that is also anti-utopian:
Because God Knows Repubs never take drugs. And who the hell wants to
live
in a utopia??
>
> 20. "Rock the Casbah," by The Clash.
A song about a repressive, theocratic Arab regime made possible by oil
profits.
Much like, oh, I dunno, Saudi Arabia?!?!?!?!
> 21. "Heroes," by David Bowie.
Yes, David Bowie and Brian Eno. Definitive Conservatives. Jesus.
> 22. "Red Barchetta," by Rush.
> In a time of "the Motor Law," presumably legislated by green
> extremists, the singer describes family reunion and the thrill of
> driving a fast car - an act that is his "weekly crime."
Good Song. Although our young protaganist risks a speeding ticket
from the Mounties, which contradicts Song #15
> 23. "Brick," by Ben Folds Five.
> Written from the perspective of a man who takes his young girlfriend to
> an abortion clinic, this song describes the emotional scars of
> "reproductive freedom": "Now she's feeling more alone / Than
> she ever has before. . . . As weeks went by / It showed that she was
> not fine."
See # 8
> 24. "Der Kommissar," by After the Fire.
> On the misery of East German life: "Don't turn around, uh-oh / Der
> Kommissar's in town, uh-oh / He's got the power / And you're so
> weak / And your frustration / Will not let you speak." Also a hit
> song for Falco, who wrote it.
Again, prescient of King George's Reign.
> 25. "The Battle of Evermore," by Led Zeppelin.
> but
> for a song released in 1971, it's hard to miss the Cold War metaphor:
> "The tyrant's face is red."
Gawd.
TO BE CONTINUED
jsl...@utnet.utoledo.edu
> >
> > I'm a little confused as to why love of classical art is apparently a
> > conservative value. They did this on several entries. Have liberals
> > been advocating burning history and not told me about it?
> >
> > becca
> >
> >
> > I can't understand it either, especially since it is most often the
> > reactionary right that is condemning art and literature as subversive.
>
> Not really. "PC" wasn't invented by conservatives.
True, it was invented by liberals-lefttists as an intentionally
self-mocking term.
There is plenty of
> art censorship to go around. Mostly conservatives that get mad about it
> these days want to cut public art funding and get more wild artists to
> find a private sponsor. Liberals often want authors boycotted or fired
> from companies where they are privately sponsored.
The Dixie Chicks, Bill Maher, French artists, and others say, "no,
that's not right."
Ask yourself if
> "B;azing Saddles" could be made today, and if now, whether "liberals"
> or "conservatives" would be more upset by it.
I can't see either group getting particularly upset about it these
days.
> > Just another little bit of hypocracy .. for most of the new breed of US
> > "conservatives" an interest in art (not to mention a love of it) is
> > enough to get someone branded dangerously liberal.
>
> Yeah, all those Conservatives who called for Mel Gibson's career to end
> when he made the Passion. Right.
See above, and see also conservatives and Moore, Michael.--Joe (n.j.)
[mWo]
Jason Todd
> 26. "Capitalism," by Oingo Boingo.
> "There's nothing wrong with Capitalism / There's nothing wrong
> with free enterprise. . . . You're just a middle class, socialist
> brat / From a suburban family and you never really had to work."
Sounds like most Repub kids I know...
> 27. "Obvious Song," by Joe Jackson.
> For property rights and economic development, and against liberal
> hypocrisy: "There was a man in the jungle / Trying to make ends meet
> / Found himself one day with an axe in his hand / When a voice said
> 'Buddy can you spare that tree / We gotta save the world - starting
> with your land' / It was a rock 'n' roll millionaire from the USA
> / Doing three to the gallon in a big white car / And he sang and he
> sang 'til he polluted the air / And he blew a lot of smoke from a
> Cuban cigar."
Sounds like the guy who built the shopping mall in song # 13
> 28. "Janie's Got a Gun," by Aerosmith.
> How the right to bear arms can protect women from sexual predators:
Because all Liberals are anti-gun and pro-child molestation.
> 29. "Rime of the Ancient Mariner," by Iron Maiden.
> A heavy-metal classic inspired by a literary classic.
Don't they teach literary junk like this in those elitist, liberal
colleges?
Also the message of the song is respect nature and DONT SHOOT BIRDS.
> 30. "You Can't Be Too Strong," by Graham Parker.
> Although it's not explicitly pro-life, this tune describes the horror
> of abortion with bracing honesty: "Did they tear it out with talons
> of steel, and give you a shot so that you wouldn't feel?"
Except for Lydon and Hynde, there's probably nobody who's more of an
anti-Thatcherite
on this list except Parker.
> 31. "Small Town," by John Mellencamp.
> A Burkean rocker: "No, I cannot forget where it is that I come from /
> I cannot forget the people who love me."
Staunchly anti - Bush man.
> 32. "Keep Your Hands to Yourself," by The Georgia Satellites.
> An outstanding vocal performance, with lyrics that affirm old-time
> sexual mores: "She said no huggy, no kissy until I get a wedding
> vow."
I'll give him this one. Most non-conservative guys have a saying "if at
first you don't succeed...move on to the sister."
> 33. "You Can't Always Get What You Want," by The Rolling Stones.
> You can "[go] down to the demonstration" and vent your frustration,
> but you must understand that there's no such thing as a perfect
> society - there are merely decent and free ones.
Such as the one we used to have here in America.
> 34. "Godzilla," by Blue öyster Cult.
> A 1977 classic about a big green monster - and more: "History shows
> again and again / How nature points up the folly of men.
???????? An environmental polemic on this list??????
> 35. "Who'll Stop the Rain," by Creedence Clearwater Revival.
> Written as an anti-Vietnam War song, this tune nevertheless is
> pessimistic about activism and takes a dim view of both Communism and
> liberalism: "Five-year plans and new deals, wrapped in golden chains
> . . ."
Bullshit.
> 36. "Government Cheese," by The Rainmakers.
> A protest song against the welfare state by a Kansas City band that
> deserved more success than it got. The first line: "Give a man a free
> house and he'll bust out the windows."
So people who are homeless deserve to be. Except keep them out of MY
neighborhood.
> 37. "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down," by The Band.
> Despite its sins, the American South always has been about more than
> racism - this song captures its pride and tradition.
He does realize these guys are Canadian right?
> 38. "I Can't Drive 55," by Sammy Hagar.
> A rocker's objection to the nanny state.
Whoa! what happened to Law and Order. See #15, 22.
> 39. "Property Line," by The Marshall Tucker Band.
> The secret to happiness, according to these southern-rock heavyweights,
> is life, liberty, and property: "Well my idea of a good time / Is
> walkin' my property line / And knowin' the mud on my boots is
> mine."
Unless the government takes your property to build a shopping mall.
Goddamn socialists.
> 40. "Wake Up Little Susie," by The Everly Brothers.
> A smash hit in 1957, back when high-school social pressures were rather
> different from what they have become: "We fell asleep, our goose is
> cooked, our reputation is shot."
A smash hit in 1957, back when Jim Crow was in full force, women were
expected to stay at home and White Men when were in charge of
everything.
Those were the days. ....(hey why isn't THAT song on this list?)
> 41. "The Icicle Melts," by The Cranberries.
blah blah blah..
>
> 42. "Everybody's a Victim," by The Proclaimers.
> Best known for their smash hit "I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)," this
> Scottish band also recorded a catchy song about the problem of
> suspending moral judgment: "It doesn't matter what I do / You have
> to say it's all right . . . Everybody's a victim / We're becoming
> like the USA."
Oh God. Why did you have to remind me of that fucking horrible song?
Not only that, there's no bigger victim these days than The Endangered
White Male.
>
> 44. "Two Sisters," by The Kinks.
> Why the "drudgery of being wed" is more rewarding than bohemian
> life.
Repubs would know...
> 45. "Taxman, Mr. Thief," by Cheap Trick.
See #
> 46. "Wind of Change," by The Scorpions.
Wonder if this guy's ever seen a Scorpions album cover...
> 47. "One," by Creed. ;
> Against racial preferences: "Society blind by color / Why hold down
> one to raise another / Discrimination now on both sides / Seeds of hate
> blossom further."
Here we go...The Endangered White Male. Did you know only 496 companies
in the Fortune 500 are headed by White Male CEO's?
> 48. "Why Don't You Get a Job," by The Offspring.
> The lyrics aren't exactly Shakespearean, but they're refreshingly
> blunt and they capture a motive force behind welfare reform.
And their from good old Orange County where there's a lot of rich white
kids
who don't do shit.
> 49. "Abortion," by Kid Rock.
See # ...whatever that other abortion song was...
> 50. "Stand By Your Man," by Tammy Wynette.
Actually Hillary was endorsing YOUR interpretation of the song, and
Tammy said
that WASN'T it....
> Hillary trashed it - isn't that enough? If you're worried that
> Wynette's original is too country, then check out the cover version
> by Motörhead.
Too Country? What you got something against country???
All in all, pretty pathethic list.
This guy reminds me of that commercial where the rich white guy says he
"sticking it to the man" and the assistant tells him "You ARE the man.
So you're sticking it to yourself." I don't doubt he loves him some
boomer rock, but I somehow doubt that any of the bands he mentions on
this list would have gotten anywhere if they wrote songs about being
happily married, raising kids, and being a happy cog in the corporate
machine for 40 years until you retire.
Sorry dude, this feeble attempt to co-opt OUR music falls flat on its
face. Rock and roll at its heart will always be about fucking, smoking
dope, drinking beer, and raising hell.
If you don't want that, then listen to goddam Lee Greenwood until your
ears bleed.
Can't wait for "50 Greatest Conservative Rap Songs"
#6: DMX: "Where The Hood At?" A strong statement for the reaffirmation
of masculinity:
How you gon' explain fuckin a man?/Even if we squash the beef I ain't
touchin ya hand"
#18: Ice Cube, "When Will They Shoot?". Ice Cube bravely rejects the
socialist-genuflection of Martin Luther King, and asserts the need to
respond aggressively with his Second Amendment freedoms: "If I say "no
violence" Devil/You won't respect mine/Fuck that dumb shit/and get my
tech-9"
#32: Notorious BIG, "Ten Crack Commandments": Biggie Smalls gives
young-know-it-all punks a corporate structure to the business of
slingin' that 'cane. With a business ethic that any mother would be
proud of, he proclaims "Never do any business where you rest at/That
goddam credit/forget it/you think a crackhead payin' you back, forget
it"
jsl...@utnet.utoledo.edu
The lawyer (me) didn't use the word "loony." But I admit to admiring
Kant and hating Rand. I deny being anti-Canadian.--Joe (n.j.) [mWo]
the Bede
"Jason Todd" <janklo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149106770.5...@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> 42. "Everybody's a Victim," by The Proclaimers.
> Best known for their smash hit "I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)," this
> Scottish band WHO FAVOR THE VIOLENT OVERTHROW OF BRITISH SOVERIGNTY FROM
SCOTTISH SOIL SO A 'PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC' CAN BE SET UP, also recorded a catchy
Dr. Squad, M.D.
<jsl...@utnet.utoledo.edu> wrote in message news:1149106812....@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
I thought Bede was a lawyer. No?
jsl...@utnet.utoledo.edu
Hmmm, if so, then I apologize for thinking he wasn't one ... no, wait,
maybe thinking he wasn't a lawyer is more of a compliment ... --Joe
(n.j.) [mWo]
FunkyM
Lord Hatred
jsl...@utnet.utoledo.edu wrote:
I love Kant even though he only succeeding in what he set out to do
by failing to do it how he wanted it done. There's something powerful in
that. And his weird life...
--
Stefan:
Lord Hatred
Milhouse Authentico <milhouse_...@derekmarvelli.org> wrote:
Yeah!
--
Stefan:
Smart Ape - Omega Level Ape
Is this an attempt to be controversial?
Because it worked!!!
--
--- "Damn dirty fleas..."
--- Proud loser of TWO 2004 RSPW Poster Awards and several in 2005.
--- 3rd Highest Vote-Getter in KORSPW 2005
--- In the Final Four of the 2006 RSPW Rumble
--- Ranked 4th on Lvubun's Top 127 RSPW Posters of 2005
Artemus Aalberg Voinovich
concepts. It might behoove you to learn a bit, but maybe you'd like to
stay--however blissfully--ignorant."
You have it all wrong, my friend. I understand the concepts perfectly.
The truth be told is that I have learned TOO MUCH. I wish I could claim
"blissful ignorance", but it just isn't possible. It just seems all the
arguing is pointless bickering. Nothing ever really gets solved. It is
just people getting their warm fuzzies from belonging to some group or
another.
Satisfying the old herd instinct. I guess it is a personality trait of
mine in that I do not like belonging to committees, clubs, groups,
organizations and teams. I can't stand the power trips of the people who
think they "run" things. I think a lot of those songs mentioned do not
advocate liberal revolution OR conservative compliance, but merely a
realistic take on those issues.
BOBOBOnoBO®
I was damned near a libertarian before I read Ayn Rand. Atlas Shrugged
damned near turned me into a socialist. I doubt that was her
intention.
Who the hell could be anti-Canadian and why?
> --Joe (n.j.) [mWo]
--Bryan
Poot Rootbeer
> Alex L. was/is an over-rated guitarist
I think he gets rated just about right; it's his bandmates whose
abilities are severely over-rated by their fans.
It seems to be a common theme among many rock trios that the guitarist is
held in different esteem than the others. On one hand we have Rush, or
Primus, or The Police, where the drummer and bassist are worshipped as
gods and the guitarist merely seems to take up space; on the other hand,
bands like Cream, Nirvana, or the Jimi Hendrix Experience, where the
guitarist is exalted and the others overlooked.
I don't have a point.
-Poot
Poot Rootbeer
>> Just another little bit of hypocracy .. for most of the new breed
>> of US "conservatives" an interest in art (not to mention a love
>> of it) is enough to get someone branded dangerously liberal.
>
> Yeah, all those Conservatives who called for Mel Gibson's career
> to end when he made the Passion. Right.
Wasn't the backlash to "The Passion" largely from religious
organizations?
And don't religious organizations, at least those that involve themselves
in politics, largely support the Republican Party?
-Poot
Zheroen
So, you're basically saying that sometimes guitarists are overrated,
and sometimes they aren't? INCREDIBLE!
--
- Zheroen
If life is but a dream, I'm an insomniac.
BOBOBOnoBO®
Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker aren't overlooked by anyone who knows
anything, and while Noel Redding isn't exactly a household word, among
drummers, Mitch Mitchell is right up at the top with the likes of Keith
Moon, and yes, Ginger Baker.
>
> I don't have a point.
>
> -Poot
--Bryan
becca
Poot Rootbeer <po...@dork.com> wrote:
This has little to do with anything, but I'm of the opinion that if
religious organizations are going to get involved with politics, than
they should start paying taxes.
becca
--
"you dumb fucking idealist." -NavyKurt
jsl...@utnet.utoledo.edu
True dat (while Clapton became the biggest name, Cream was the original
"supergroup"); plus most guitarists I know think Andy Summers is quite
good.
Is Geddy Lee really worshipped as a bass player? I was a teenager in
the 1970s, had a bunch of friends who played bass, and I can't remember
G. Lee being considered a top guy (the top guys back then were Stanley
Clarke, John Entwhistle, and Chris Squire). Granted, my drummer
friends thought Neil Pert was great. But drummers are all kind of
crazy anyway.--Joe (n.j.) [mWo]
tubeguy
the limit. Conservative rock is elevator music. Unless you consider works by
progressive bans, and then it becomes "Progressive Rock", which is an
undervalued commodity. Rush, Dream Theater, etc. Then you are in the realm
of stuff that one needs to actually pay attention to- this is not drunken
rock. One needs to have an appreciation for how music is played and
produced. Without that, you might as well be cruising the highway with an
old Deep Purple 8-track.
tube
"Milhouse Authentico" <milhouse_...@derekmarvelli.org> wrote in
message news:4e45v2F...@individual.net...
> Probably in need of a point by point refutation.
>
> ===
>
<snip>