ALT.MUSIC.MARILYN-MANSON GROUP IS PUTTING NIRVANA AND PUNK DOWN
ian
Michael Forrest Zink <dpg...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> writes: > > >Tell you why I was pissed if you really want to know. I don't need a bunch of
> > >NOFX listening shitheads telling me that Nirvana wasn't punk. Kurt had more
> > >passion for music and the whole genre than most people I can name, AND most
> > >of these two-bit lame Epitaph and Fat Wreck Chords bands put together.
> >
> > Yeah, he had so much passion for it that he sold his soul to eMpTy-V and
> > then killed himself. Yeah, lotsa passion.
> Don, you're as fucking retarded as Ian. This statement alone proves how
> fucking ignorant you actually are, and how little you fucking know about
> what you're talking about.
>
> > >Here I go preaching again, but I use to go see NIrvana shows around 1989 and
> > >1990
> >
> > '89 and '90? Whoa, real old-school! Hey, I would never put down newbies,
> > but if you're gonna spew shit to new kids about being all old-school and
> > shit, you'd better be prepared to hear it from some REAL oldsters!
>
> Oh, so because you're an oldster, you know what the fuck you're talking
> about. Well, I'm changing my position. I am now officially a punk.
> Fuck you Don.
>
> > You're full of shit, and I think I can speak with authority. While you
> > were going to see sellouts, yes, SELLOUTS like Nirvana and Fugazi, I was
> > still going to REAL punk shows, not Epitaph shit like you think all punks
> > listen to. Real punk is never heard by the general population. You don't
> > know your ass from a hole in the ground.
>
> This statement here also proves how fucking dumb you are. As much as I
> hate Fugazi, even I have to admit they've never sold out. In fact,
> they're pretty fucking pissy to their audience. What makes you think you
> can speak with authority? You are a fucking joke. If you were really
> the wise ass old-schooler you say you are, you'd fucking hate authority.
> Instead, you think you are authority. You're dumb.
> -MZ-
>
Hey fuck off,fugazi fucking rule.Don't fuck with fugazi.
XdavidX(ian)
ian
Don Guardrail <xold...@postoffice.ptd.net> writes: > cow...@ix.netcom.com (Persinthia Lawdro) wrote:
> >In article <85711870...@ian-one.demon.co.uk>, ian...@demon.co.uk
> >says...
> >
> >>Yeah that's the same Mudhoney but Mudhoney fucking rocked where
> >>Nirvana turned into a lame sellout(and yes I did own Bleach)
> >
> >Lame sell-outs don't blow their fucking heads off during a good career. It's
> >not Nirvanas fault that a million people went out and bought their records.
> >That's OUR fault....the consumer. Then again, I don't have a snobby attitude
> >like yours. I still listen to Nirvana because they continued to make great
> >music. Do you even know what a sell-out is you stupid fuck??? No, cause
> >you're a little pissy whiny kid who doesn't know jack fucking shit!!!! A
> >sell-out is somone who changes their image and music to appeal to a wider
> >audience. 'Nevermind' was a record made WAY before Nirvana had any
> >superstardom. Nirvana never sold out. It's pissy babies like you who calim
> >so, JUST to keep you cool-I'm-So-Fuckin-Punk-Attitude. You're nothing. You
> >should go blow your little retard head off in front of your fucking
> >mother....make her fucking proud for once!!!!!!!!
> >
> >Nirvana and Kurt Cobain had more respect for music and the art of it, then
> >you and your wank fucking straight edge ass kissin friends could ever want.
> >You're a joke Ian. The same fame could have happened to Mudhoney and you'd
> >cry like a little baby calling them sellouts too. You're a fucking joke. You
> >know SHIT about music. Go change your diapers you dipshit.
> >
> >Call this message Immature, but then again, dealing with people of your
> >level, I have to sink there myself.
> >
> >Persi,
> >Who's fucking seething with hate right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> Lemme ask you something, you dirty cunt, where the fuck did you come
> from, and if you hate us so much, why post to us? Why even read our
> stuff? Ian, I'll hold her, you urinate on her, cause that's what she
> needs, a good gang-piss!
>
>
>
>
> Fuck you all.
> Don
>
>
Don,the chick's full of piss and wind anyway.I would'nt waste my
precious piss on that fucker..
XdavidX(ian)
Don Guardrail
ian <ian...@demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Michael Forrest Zink <dpg...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> writes: > > >Tell you why I was pissed if you really want to know. I don't need a bunch of
>> > >NOFX listening shitheads telling me that Nirvana wasn't punk. Kurt had more
>> > >passion for music and the whole genre than most people I can name, AND most
>> > >of these two-bit lame Epitaph and Fat Wreck Chords bands put together.
>> >
>> > Yeah, he had so much passion for it that he sold his soul to eMpTy-V and
>> > then killed himself. Yeah, lotsa passion.
>> Don, you're as fucking retarded as Ian. This statement alone proves how
>> fucking ignorant you actually are, and how little you fucking know about
>> what you're talking about.
Oh, yeah? How so? Explain yourself.
>>
>> > >Here I go preaching again, but I use to go see NIrvana shows around 1989 and
>> > >1990
>> >
>> > '89 and '90? Whoa, real old-school! Hey, I would never put down newbies,
>> > but if you're gonna spew shit to new kids about being all old-school and
>> > shit, you'd better be prepared to hear it from some REAL oldsters!
>>
>> Oh, so because you're an oldster, you know what the fuck you're talking
>> about. Well, I'm changing my position. I am now officially a punk.
>> Fuck you Don.
Yeah, fuck me. I'm still waiting for a valid point.
>>
>> > You're full of shit, and I think I can speak with authority. While you
>> > were going to see sellouts, yes, SELLOUTS like Nirvana and Fugazi, I was
>> > still going to REAL punk shows, not Epitaph shit like you think all punks
>> > listen to. Real punk is never heard by the general population. You don't
>> > know your ass from a hole in the ground.
>>
>> This statement here also proves how fucking dumb you are. As much as I
>> hate Fugazi, even I have to admit they've never sold out. In fact,
>> they're pretty fucking pissy to their audience. What makes you think you
>> can speak with authority? You are a fucking joke. If you were really
>> the wise ass old-schooler you say you are, you'd fucking hate authority.
>> Instead, you think you are authority. You're dumb.
>> -MZ-
I didn't say I WAS authority, haven't you grasped the English language
yet?
Instead of saying, "Fuck you, Don" and "You're ignorant" how about
explaining WHY you feel I'm ignorant and don't know what I'm talking
about? I explained myself, why don't you do the same? You know why? It's
because you have nothing to say. You are the ignorant asshole here, dirty
fucker.
Fuck you all.
Don
>>
Don Guardrail
ian <ian...@demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Michael Forrest Zink <dpg...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> writes: > > >Tell you why I was pissed if you really want to know. I don't need a bunch of
>> > >NOFX listening shitheads telling me that Nirvana wasn't punk. Kurt had more
>> > >passion for music and the whole genre than most people I can name, AND most
>> > >of these two-bit lame Epitaph and Fat Wreck Chords bands put together.
>> >
>> > Yeah, he had so much passion for it that he sold his soul to eMpTy-V and
>> > then killed himself. Yeah, lotsa passion.
>> Don, you're as fucking retarded as Ian. This statement alone proves how
>> fucking ignorant you actually are, and how little you fucking know about
>> what you're talking about.
>>
>> > >1990
>> >
>> > '89 and '90? Whoa, real old-school! Hey, I would never put down newbies,
>> > but if you're gonna spew shit to new kids about being all old-school and
>> > shit, you'd better be prepared to hear it from some REAL oldsters!
>>
>> Oh, so because you're an oldster, you know what the fuck you're talking
>> about. Well, I'm changing my position. I am now officially a punk.
>> Fuck you Don.
>>
>> > were going to see sellouts, yes, SELLOUTS like Nirvana and Fugazi, I was
>> > still going to REAL punk shows, not Epitaph shit like you think all punks
>> > listen to. Real punk is never heard by the general population. You don't
>> > know your ass from a hole in the ground.
>>
>> This statement here also proves how fucking dumb you are. As much as I
>> hate Fugazi, even I have to admit they've never sold out. In fact,
>> they're pretty fucking pissy to their audience. What makes you think you
>> can speak with authority? You are a fucking joke. If you were really
>> the wise ass old-schooler you say you are, you'd fucking hate authority.
>> Instead, you think you are authority. You're dumb.
>> -MZ-
>>
>
>XdavidX(ian)
Sorry, David, it's just this dirty cunt needs to be duct-taped to a table
and gang-pissed.
Michael Forrest Zink
> >> > Yeah, he had so much passion for it that he sold his soul to eMpTy-V and
> >> > then killed himself. Yeah, lotsa passion.
> >> Don, you're as fucking retarded as Ian. This statement alone proves how
> >> fucking ignorant you actually are, and how little you fucking know about
> >> what you're talking about.
Well, since you asked...but first, explain to me why you think Kurt
Cobain sold his soul to eMpTy-V...that is one of the most ignorant,
pretentious statements I've ever heard in my life.
> >> >
> >> > '89 and '90? Whoa, real old-school! Hey, I would never put down newbies,
> >> > but if you're gonna spew shit to new kids about being all old-school and
> >> > shit, you'd better be prepared to hear it from some REAL oldsters!
> >>
> >> Oh, so because you're an oldster, you know what the fuck you're talking
> >> about. Well, I'm changing my position. I am now officially a punk.
> >> Fuck you Don.
>
> Yeah, fuck me. I'm still waiting for a valid point.
The point was, Don, that because you're an "oldster" doesn't mean you
know what the fuck you're talking about. It was that clear.
I'm also waiting for valid points, so we're in the same boat on that one...
> >> This statement here also proves how fucking dumb you are. As much as I
> >> hate Fugazi, even I have to admit they've never sold out. In fact,
> >> they're pretty fucking pissy to their audience. What makes you think you
> >> can speak with authority? You are a fucking joke. If you were really
> >> the wise ass old-schooler you say you are, you'd fucking hate authority.
> >> Instead, you think you are authority. You're dumb.
> >> -MZ-
>
> I didn't say I WAS authority, haven't you grasped the English language
> yet?
Well, you said you were *an* authority, excuse me...
> Instead of saying, "Fuck you, Don" and "You're ignorant" how about
> explaining WHY you feel I'm ignorant and don't know what I'm talking
> about?
I feel you are ignorant and you don't know what you are talking about
because of retarded statements like "Kurt Cobain Sold His Soul to MTV" or
"Fugazi are sell-outs" both of which are so blatantly untrue, that I have
no other choice but to think you have no fucking clue what you're talking
about.
>I explained myself,
Where?
> why don't you do the same?
I thought I did...
> You know why?
Why?
>It's
> because you have nothing to say. You are the ignorant asshole here, dirty
> fucker.
I have plenty to say, its pretty obvious, and I've chosen to at least
attempt to back up any bullshit statements I make, unlike you Don.
-MZ-
FRASER-HANSEN
Michael Forrest Zink <dpg...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote in article
<Pine.OSF.3.91.970303...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu>...
> Will you pukes please get off this bullshit of whose shit stinks worse or
whose dick is SMALLEST. Lets get on to some intellect discussions on maybe
the RAMONES. Take this crap outside lads.
Persinthia Lawdro
In article <Pine.OSF.3.91.970303...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu>,
dpg...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu says...
>I have plenty to say, its pretty obvious, and I've chosen to at least
>attempt to back up any bullshit statements I make, unlike you Don.
Aw, shucks. You onlt REAL punkers listen to bands that can't play to more
than 50 drunk people in a venue not much larger than a garage. What werre you
thinking, Mike?? :)
Seriously...most 'REAL' punks I know couldn't give a flying fuck what band
charts the highest or plays to the least amount of people. Most 'REAL' punks
I know listen to music because they, uh, like it! Which seems to rule out the
almighty Don.
--
****Notable Albums****
Autechre - Chiastic Slide
U2 - POP
Gene - Drawn To The Deep End
Persinthia Lawdro
In article <5fe1i4$t3c$1...@news.ptd.net>, xold...@postoffice.ptd.net says...
>I didn't say I WAS authority, haven't you grasped the English language
>yet?
>Instead of saying, "Fuck you, Don" and "You're ignorant" how about
>explaining WHY you feel I'm ignorant and don't know what I'm talking
>about?
Funny, but I notice alot of intelligent and thought out posts from Mike and
have yet to see anything of any value or meaning come out of Don's mouth.
It's all been 'Fuck you, I see REAL punk shows, not Fugazi' or some variation
there-of. It's like Don and Ian share the same friggin brain and it's hooked
up to a rotting carrot.
Darren Pakravan
Stop posting shit to groups where nobody gives a shit. Anybody who
wants to argue about MAnson and Nirvana can go to those groups.
--
You don't deserve to feel this way
'Cause you're not a loser
You have to clear your mind and see
That this was
Not your fault
You're not the one to blame
You can put it away now
So take some time to change your life
--Millencolin, from
"Move Your Car"
Darren Pakravan
d-pak...@nwu.edu
aidan
Aidan wrote:
When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
like none has ever done before and a new age of the
Mansonites begin.
kgrov...@aol.com
I am willing to wager with you that you are wrong. That Marilyn Manson will be remembered only for being some stupid geek who *acted* weird and shocking.
SkyValley0
*yawn*
cleverly packaged pop music
move along there's nothing to see here
-sv
aidan
ian
aid...@sprynet.com (aidan ) writes: > Aidan wrote:
>
> When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
> as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
> like none has ever done before and a new age of the
> Mansonites begin.
>
davidX
DaNSe MaCAbrE
On Wed, 05 Mar 1997 18:18:14 GMT, aid...@sprynet.com (aidan ) wrote:
-=[aid...@sprynet.com (aidan ) wrote:
-=[
-=[>Aidan wrote:
-=[
-=[>When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
-=[>as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
-=[>like none has ever done before and a new age of the
-=[>Mansonites begin.
ad...@sprynet.com contacted for constant spamming. This aidan kid is
really annoying.
-=[DaNSe MaCAbrE]=-
-=[topd...@mindspring.com]=-
-=[http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5269]=-
-=[NoTHinG Is ExPLaiNED AnD ThINgs StARt GeTTinG ViOLenT]=-
dave
aidan wrote:
>
> Aidan wrote:
>
> When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
I got a question. did you read the interview he did with Rolling Stone
recently? He HATES stupid blind ass followers who devote their life to
him (or so he says). But, still, I'm willing to bet you'd freak him
out.
Besides, as far as dominating the music scene, the Beatles sold (and
will continue to sell) infinitely more records, and had a larger percent
of the buying public buying their stuff in their heydey. And the Sex
Pistols caused more controversy, and GG Allen was much better at the
sick-fuck business.
-dave
Josh King
On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, aidan wrote:
> aid...@sprynet.com (aidan ) wrote:
>
> >Aidan wrote:
>
> >When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
> >as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
> >like none has ever done before and a new age of the
> >Mansonites begin.
>
>
>
>
>
Thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering what exactly the nineties
would be remembered for.
Hate, hate your enemies,
Save, save your friends,
Find, find your place,
Speak, speak the truth.
--Kurt Cobain
hanging on your words
aidan wrote:
>
> aid...@sprynet.com (aidan ) wrote:
>
> >Aidan wrote:
>
> >When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
> >as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
> >like none has ever done before and a new age of the
> >Mansonites begin.
What are they gonna make luggage and suitcases now? (reference point:
samsonite).
Chan
--
"Watch the clock on the wall
feel it slowing up time
hear a voice in the hall
echoing in my mind
all thesse stupid ideals
got your head in the cloud
you should see how it feels
with your feet on the ground."
Useless - M.L. Gore
Doctor Badass
Oh, shit, I guess Samsonite are the hadbags...What is Masonite?
--Dr. Badass
ps Join the Badassites, Aidan, they get cooler haircuts, and dont need to
pay 25 bones to get to their lords shows.
On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Doctor Badass wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, aidan wrote:
>
> > Aidan wrote:
> >
> > When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
> > as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
> > like none has ever done before and a new age of the
> > Mansonites begin.
> >
> >
> >
> I wont deny that MM dominates A music scene, but it for damn sure is NOT
> MY music scene. In addition to that, you are a pretentious fuck.
> --Dr. Badass, who is really tired of the Mansonites (is that anything
> like Masonite, the handbags?)
>
>
Doctor Badass
Sandra Bloom
In <5firlc$mu6$1...@arl-news-svc-2.compuserve.com> aid...@sprynet.com
(aidan ) writes:
>
>Aidan wrote:
>
>When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
>as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
>like none has ever done before and a new age of the
>Mansonites begin.
>
Oh, shut up. No one really cares about marilyn manson. His music is OK,
but Mansonites?? And when the hell did he dominate the music scene
anyway??? Your probably some guy that sits on his ass all day and
considers scratching yourself sufficient excercise. You desperately
need a life, Aidan.
sandra
David LaPegna
Josh King (jn-...@students.uiuc.edu) writes:
> On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, aidan wrote:
>
>> aid...@sprynet.com (aidan ) wrote:
>>
>> >Aidan wrote:
>>
>> >When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
>> >as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
>> >like none has ever done before and a new age of the
>> >Mansonites begin.
>>
>>
are you for real ? that kind sucks shit man, manson is a idiot, i'd be
ashamed to remember think he ran the scene of the 90's
--
help the police - beat yourself up
Elliott
In article <5firlc$mu6$1...@arl-news-svc-2.compuserve.com>, aid...@sprynet.com
(aidan ) wrote:
--->Aidan wrote:
--->
--->When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
--->as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
--->like none has ever done before and a new age of the
--->Mansonites begin.
please die......
elliott
--
the one the only elliott
singer of Guardrail, Nice Guy (Sometimes) and Power Nerd
e-mail: elli...@ix.netcom.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/6031
support the moron's right to know exactly what they are..
ian
dave <dell...@erols.com> writes: > aidan wrote:
> >
> > Aidan wrote:
> >
> > When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
>
> I got a question. did you read the interview he did with Rolling Stone
> recently? He HATES stupid blind ass followers who devote their life to
> him (or so he says). But, still, I'm willing to bet you'd freak him
> out.
> Besides, as far as dominating the music scene, the Beatles sold (and
> will continue to sell) infinitely more records, and had a larger percent
> of the buying public buying their stuff in their heydey. And the Sex
> Pistols caused more controversy, and GG Allen was much better at the
> sick-fuck business.
>
> -dave
GG'd kick manson's scawny ass if he were around today.
davidX
Syariffudin Veni Syarmila Bin Syahrial
all u three assholes are retarded. i'd never care for ur senseless retarded
opinions but wen one of u assholes say that nirvana's a sell out and then
we have another one retarded asshole in ur retarded bunch sayin fugazi's
fuck and then the three of u sayin u'real ol schoolers then i'd speak my
mind coz my god u guys are really retarded. real ol schoolers don brag abt
bein in the old school era but u fakes do. how pathetic. and yah u'rite to
say that real punks don sell themselves to mainstreamers but if u'd guys
are really into independent underground bands but that end up sayin all
these crap then u guys are really RETARDED assholes who noe nothin at all
abt a fuckin anythin. pls spare ur opinions btw the three of u. don spam
fuckin nonsense into these newsgrp. i'd advise u to go to ur neighbourhood
underground scene and support ur respective independent bands quietly and
if u guys got nuff fuckin sense than a 12 year ol then by all means come
back in. till then pls politely FUCK OFF.
and yah a big FUCK U TO U coz u noe somethin fugazi must be real glad that
you're not into them coz as very much as they wanna accept punks like
urself and turn them upside down, u're just too fuckin pathetic.
how sad....
fuck netanyahu!!
Don Guardrail <xold...@postoffice.ptd.net> wrote in article
<5fe151$skf$2...@news.ptd.net>...
> ian <ian...@demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >Michael Forrest Zink <dpg...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> writes: > > >Tell you
why I was pissed if you really want to know. I don't need a bunch of
> >> > >NOFX listening shitheads telling me that Nirvana wasn't punk. Kurt
had more
> >> > >passion for music and the whole genre than most people I can name,
AND most
> >> > >of these two-bit lame Epitaph and Fat Wreck Chords bands put
together.
> >> >
> >> > Yeah, he had so much passion for it that he sold his soul to eMpTy-V
and
> >> > then killed himself. Yeah, lotsa passion.
> >> Don, you're as fucking retarded as Ian. This statement alone proves
how
> >> fucking ignorant you actually are, and how little you fucking know
about
> >> what you're talking about.
> >>
> >> > >Here I go preaching again, but I use to go see NIrvana shows around
1989 and
> >> > >1990
> >> >
> >> > '89 and '90? Whoa, real old-school! Hey, I would never put down
newbies,
> >> > but if you're gonna spew shit to new kids about being all old-school
and
> >> > shit, you'd better be prepared to hear it from some REAL oldsters!
> >>
> >> Oh, so because you're an oldster, you know what the fuck you're
talking
> >> about. Well, I'm changing my position. I am now officially a punk.
> >> Fuck you Don.
> >>
> >> > You're full of shit, and I think I can speak with authority. While
you
> >> > were going to see sellouts, yes, SELLOUTS like Nirvana and Fugazi, I
was
> >> > still going to REAL punk shows, not Epitaph shit like you think all
punks
> >> > listen to. Real punk is never heard by the general population. You
don't
> >> > know your ass from a hole in the ground.
> >>
> >> This statement here also proves how fucking dumb you are. As much as
I
> >> hate Fugazi, even I have to admit they've never sold out. In fact,
> >> they're pretty fucking pissy to their audience. What makes you think
you
> >> can speak with authority? You are a fucking joke. If you were really
> >> the wise ass old-schooler you say you are, you'd fucking hate
authority.
> >> Instead, you think you are authority. You're dumb.
> >> -MZ-
> >>
Luther Rochester
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Syariffudin Veni Syarmila Bin Syahrial (Ven...@mbox2.singnet.com.sg) wrote:
: all u three assholes are retarded. i'd never care for ur senseless retarded
: opinions but wen one of u assholes say that nirvana's a sell out and then
: we have another one retarded asshole in ur retarded bunch sayin fugazi's
: fuck and then the three of u sayin u'real ol schoolers then i'd speak my
: mind coz my god u guys are really retarded. real ol schoolers don brag abt
: bein in the old school era but u fakes do. how pathetic. and yah u'rite to
: say that real punks don sell themselves to mainstreamers but if u'd guys
: are really into independent underground bands but that end up sayin all
: these crap then u guys are really RETARDED assholes who noe nothin at all
: abt a fuckin anythin. pls spare ur opinions btw the three of u. don spam
: fuckin nonsense into these newsgrp. i'd advise u to go to ur neighbourhood
: underground scene and support ur respective independent bands quietly and
: if u guys got nuff fuckin sense than a 12 year ol then by all means come
: back in. till then pls politely FUCK OFF.
: and yah a big FUCK U TO U coz u noe somethin fugazi must be real glad that
: you're not into them coz as very much as they wanna accept punks like
: urself and turn them upside down, u're just too fuckin pathetic.
: how sad....
:
: fuck netanyahu!!
1. this is the first time i've actually posted to one of these exciting
argument threads that come into my replacements newsgroup!
2. did you used to be a courtroom reporter or something? you use a
very interesting shorthand.
3. no offense. i agree with basically everything you said. :)
4. fugazi is very cool even if you don't like their music. i've talked
to all of them and my band opened for them and let me tell you they
were all gentlemen and eager to talk to anyone who approached them.
5. my friends in colorado who are huge nirvana fans swear up and down
that kurt isn't dead--faked his own death or something. i think i
heard something similar about 2pac. maybe they're roommates somewhere!
maybe kurt has a pc (wait, is owning a pc punk? let's start yet
another thread!) and you could ask him yourself whether nirvana is
punk or not. otherwise try one of these e-mail addresses:
kco...@heaven.com
kco...@hell.com
good luck!
luther
Persinthia Lawdro
>
>Aidan wrote:
>
>When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
>as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
>like none has ever done before and a new age of the
>Mansonites begin.
Wow...that was inspirational.
ian
"Syariffudin Veni Syarmila Bin Syahrial" <Ven...@mbox2.singnet.com.sg> writes: > all u three assholes are retarded. i'd never care for ur senseless retarded
> opinions but wen one of u assholes say that nirvana's a sell out and then
> we have another one retarded asshole in ur retarded bunch sayin fugazi's
> fuck and then the three of u sayin u'real ol schoolers then i'd speak my
> mind coz my god u guys are really retarded. real ol schoolers don brag abt
> bein in the old school era but u fakes do. how pathetic. and yah u'rite to
> say that real punks don sell themselves to mainstreamers but if u'd guys
> are really into independent underground bands but that end up sayin all
> these crap then u guys are really RETARDED assholes who noe nothin at all
> abt a fuckin anythin. pls spare ur opinions btw the three of u. don spam
> fuckin nonsense into these newsgrp. i'd advise u to go to ur neighbourhood
> underground scene and support ur respective independent bands quietly and
> if u guys got nuff fuckin sense than a 12 year ol then by all means come
> back in. till then pls politely FUCK OFF.
> and yah a big FUCK U TO U coz u noe somethin fugazi must be real glad that
> you're not into them coz as very much as they wanna accept punks like
> urself and turn them upside down, u're just too fuckin pathetic.
> how sad....
>
> fuck netanyahu!!
you're one stupid fucker.Learn to write correctly then maybe we'll
understand what the fuck your talking about.
Tosser.
davidX
> Don Guardrail <xold...@postoffice.ptd.net> wrote in article
> <5fe151$skf$2...@news.ptd.net>...
> > ian <ian...@demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > >Michael Forrest Zink <dpg...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> writes: > > >Tell you
> why I was pissed if you really want to know. I don't need a bunch of
> > >> > >NOFX listening shitheads telling me that Nirvana wasn't punk. Kurt
> had more
> > >> > >passion for music and the whole genre than most people I can name,
> AND most
> > >> > >of these two-bit lame Epitaph and Fat Wreck Chords bands put
> together.
> > >> >
> > >> > Yeah, he had so much passion for it that he sold his soul to eMpTy-V
> and
> > >> > then killed himself. Yeah, lotsa passion.
> > >> Don, you're as fucking retarded as Ian. This statement alone proves
> how
FRASER-HANSEN
ian <ian...@demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<85764223...@ian-one.demon.co.uk>...
> dave <dell...@erols.com> writes: > aidan wrote:
> > >
> > > Aidan wrote:
> > >
> > > When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
> > > as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
> > > like none has ever done before and a new age of the
> > > Mansonites begin.
> >
> > I got a question. did you read the interview he did with Rolling Stone
> > recently? He HATES stupid blind ass followers who devote their life to
> > him (or so he says). But, still, I'm willing to bet you'd freak him
> > out.
> > Besides, as far as dominating the music scene, the Beatles sold (and
> > will continue to sell) infinitely more records, and had a larger
percent
> > of the buying public buying their stuff in their heydey. And the Sex
> > Pistols caused more controversy, and GG Allen was much better at the
> > sick-fuck business.
> >
> > -dave
>
>
> GG'd kick manson's scawny ass if he were around today.
>
> davidX
> Lets face it MANSON reallysucks!!!!!!!!!!!Theres no way in hell that
theirs is the music of the 90's.WHAT A PILE OF CRAP.If they are the music
of the 90's ROCK N ROLL really is dead.
And why are we even discussing this on the RAMONES newsgroup??????????
HEY HO ZIPPYS!!!!!!!!!!
RENE
sfr...@cableregina.com
Christopher R. T. Collins
> When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
> as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
> like none has ever done before and a new age of the
> Mansonites begin.
>
president?
ian
cow...@ix.netcom.com (Persinthia Lawdro) writes: > In article <5firlc$mu6$1...@arl-news-svc-2.compuserve.com>, aid...@sprynet.com
> says...
> >
> >Aidan wrote:
> >
> >When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
> >as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
> >like none has ever done before and a new age of the
> >Mansonites begin.
>
>
> --
> ****Notable Albums****
>
> Autechre - Chiastic Slide
> U2 - POP
> Gene - Drawn To The Deep End
>
davidX
ian
"FRASER-HANSEN" <sfr...@cableregina.com> writes: >
>
> ian <ian...@demon.co.uk> wrote in article
> <85764223...@ian-one.demon.co.uk>...
> > dave <dell...@erols.com> writes: > aidan wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
> > > > as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
> > > > like none has ever done before and a new age of the
> > > > Mansonites begin.
> > >
> > > recently? He HATES stupid blind ass followers who devote their life to
> > > him (or so he says). But, still, I'm willing to bet you'd freak him
> > > out.
> > > Besides, as far as dominating the music scene, the Beatles sold (and
> > > will continue to sell) infinitely more records, and had a larger
> percent
> > > of the buying public buying their stuff in their heydey. And the Sex
> > > Pistols caused more controversy, and GG Allen was much better at the
> > > sick-fuck business.
> > >
> > > -dave
> >
> >
> > GG'd kick manson's scawny ass if he were around today.
> >
> > davidX
> > Lets face it MANSON reallysucks!!!!!!!!!!!Theres no way in hell that
> theirs is the music of the 90's.WHAT A PILE OF CRAP.If they are the music
> of the 90's ROCK N ROLL really is dead.
> And why are we even discussing this on the RAMONES newsgroup??????????
> HEY HO ZIPPYS!!!!!!!!!!
> RENE
> sfr...@cableregina.com
Why the fuck are we discussing this on alt.punk.straight-edge????
but yeah Manson does suck big time.
davidX
AbuseMag
Give me a BREAK!!!
my DAD, my 60 year old DAD, took my 15 year old sister and her friends to
see Marylin Manson recently... even HE thought the show was , let me quote
here, "tame, too short, not even a little bit shocking..."
Please spare me this Manson crap, they SUCK!
-Rachel
Laurent Seiter
>When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
>as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
>like none has ever done before and a new age of the
>Mansonites begin.
M MANSON is as musically dominant as ABBA, as scary as SCORPIONS, as
energetic as GREEN DAY and as creative as CELINE DION.
And as satanic as MOTLEY CRUE.
I'd even rather listen to KISS.
Unless you're 12 years old.
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Luther Rochester wrote:
>
> 1. this is the first time i've actually posted to one of these exciting
> argument threads that come into my replacements newsgroup!
>
> 2. did you used to be a courtroom reporter or something? you use a
> very interesting shorthand.
>
> 3. no offense. i agree with basically everything you said. :)
>
> 4. fugazi is very cool even if you don't like their music. i've talked
> to all of them and my band opened for them and let me tell you they
> were all gentlemen and eager to talk to anyone who approached them.
>
> 5. my friends in colorado who are huge nirvana fans swear up and down
> that kurt isn't dead--faked his own death or something. i think i
> heard something similar about 2pac. maybe they're roommates somewhere!
> maybe kurt has a pc (wait, is owning a pc punk? let's start yet
> another thread!) and you could ask him yourself whether nirvana is
> punk or not. otherwise try one of these e-mail addresses:
> kco...@heaven.com
> kco...@hell.com
> good luck!
>
> luther
>
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aid...@sprynet.com (aidan ) wrote:
>Aidan wrote:
>When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
>as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
>like none has ever done before and a new age of the
>Mansonites begin.
All I've got to say on this issue is: "Less Marilyn, more Charles."
Doctor Badass
Ivfe said it before Ill say it again...If MM was REALLY shocking, hed be
in jail all the time or dead of a drug OD like GG. Marilyn is not a
freak, he is a product. I saw him a couple years back, and there was mno
freakish schtick to the show, they were just a below average metal band,
a real sleeper of an act. He decided the freak thing would turn a
profit. I dont hate the man, I respect him, hes a genius, the worlds
idiots are paying his bills.
--Dr. Badass
Don Guardrail
Doctor Badass <jsu...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>Oh, shit, I guess Samsonite are the hadbags...What is Masonite?
>--Dr. Badass
It's a building material used to make countertops.
Fuck you all.
Don
>
>ps Join the Badassites, Aidan, they get cooler haircuts, and dont need to
>pay 25 bones to get to their lords shows.
>
>On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Doctor Badass wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, aidan wrote:
>>
>> > Aidan wrote:
>> >
>> > When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
>> > as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
>> > like none has ever done before and a new age of the
>> > Mansonites begin.
>> >
>> >
>> >
Don Guardrail
"Elliott" <elli...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>In article <5firlc$mu6$1...@arl-news-svc-2.compuserve.com>, aid...@sprynet.com
>
>--->Aidan wrote:
>--->
>--->When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
>--->as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
>--->like none has ever done before and a new age of the
>--->Mansonites begin.
>
>
>
>please die......
>
>elliott
>
>
of those dumb fuckers that like to pretend to slash their wrists by
making small cuts in them with a razor, then whine to their parents that
it's their fault, then show off the scars to all their friends and say,
"Look, I tried to kill myself. I am cool now."
Fuck you all.
Don
Doctor Badass
I know a girl that does that...If shes reading, I love you, but you are dumb.
--Dr. Badass
eric flexyourhead
On 7 Mar 1997 06:44:20 GMT, Don Guardrail
<xold...@postoffice.ptd.net> wrote:
>Doctor Badass <jsu...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>>Oh, shit, I guess Samsonite are the hadbags...What is Masonite?
>>--Dr. Badass
>
>It's a building material used to make countertops.
>Fuck you all.
hey - let's all look at the proper use of masonite - skate ramps.
'nuff said.
mr. flexyourhead.
Brian
the Dance Hall Crashers are back in the studio recording their
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find it all, at http://dhc.vfive.com - as close to official as it gets!
<a href="http://dhc.vfive.com">dhc.vfive.com - today!</a>
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(sorry if this made its way into the wrong groups, my apologies)
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aidan wrote:
: Aidan wrote:
: When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
: as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
: like none has ever done before and a new age of the
: Mansonites begin.
Aidan, you're completely out of touch with reality. I usually don't make
such blunt comments, but that is the most ridiculous thing I've heard in
quite a while (no, wait, you were trolling, right?) It's quite similar to
saying "The 80's was the decade of Sigue-Sigue-Sputnik"... a statement
that some would actually agree with.
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Elliott
You replace the word "YOU" with a U....this makes you a fool.....
Jeff Zielenski
The Dance Hall Crashers friggin' suck! They sound like
that old Chipmunk-Punk album from the 80's. They're
nothing more than Paula Abdul fronting a piss-poor
rock band...get a life!
Jay Humphrey
MM has been around way before this fucking Anti-christ superstar sell out
crap that they call an album. Manson was in the goth scene since before it
was called goth. MM along with a few other bands started the whole fucking
thing. Now just cuz Kurt Cobain is dead and record execs are looking for
their next "Smells like we gonna make money" super album, bands that have
been doing their own thing a putting out great music arestarting to sell
out just to ride the gravy train. Trust no artist on a major label. Don't
be so willing to jump on a band wagon just cuz everyone riding has on black
lipstick and is chanting about how bad the world is.
-The time has come for all the bullshit to end. The revolution is on!
Doctor Badass <jsu...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote in article
<Pine.SOL.3.91.970305...@ux8.cso.uiuc.edu>...
Jag-Stang Hero
> > >
> > >Aidan wrote:
> > >
> > >When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
> > >as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
> > >like none has ever done before and a new age of the
> > >Mansonites begin.
>
No, I disagree...Nirvana is the most influential and was and still is
the most important band of the 90's. Nirvana is a legendary rock band,
Manson is a fad rock band. Manson may be the most popular band right
now, but at the same time, they are the most hated band. Nirvana
brought people together, gave them a musical taste. I'd bet that if
Kurt were alive, Nirvana would still be more popular than Marilyn
Manson.
Jim Pfaendtner
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MM Started the entire thing? Uhmmmm.. no. Sorry, I hate to interject
into stupid crossposting shit with moronic Manson and Cobang heads, but
come on. First of all:
You want some "Goth" music, check out Bauhaus - they're from the 70's,
when Marilyn Manson was still in diapers.
Marilyn Manson is NOT shocking. GG Allin makes him look like a goddamned
boyscout.
Jay Humphrey (hump...@kdn0.attnet.or.jp) wrote:
: MM has been around way before this fucking Anti-christ superstar sell out
: crap that they call an album. Manson was in the goth scene since before it
: was called goth. MM along with a few other bands started the whole fucking
: thing. Now just cuz Kurt Cobain is dead and record execs are looking for
: their next "Smells like we gonna make money" super album, bands that have
: been doing their own thing a putting out great music arestarting to sell
: out just to ride the gravy train. Trust no artist on a major label. Don't
: be so willing to jump on a band wagon just cuz everyone riding has on black
: lipstick and is chanting about how bad the world is.
: -The time has come for all the bullshit to end. The revolution is on!
: Doctor Badass <jsu...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote in article
: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970305...@ux8.cso.uiuc.edu>...
: >
: >
: > On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, aidan wrote:
: >
: > > Aidan wrote:
: > >
: > > When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
: > > as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
: > > like none has ever done before and a new age of the
: > > Mansonites begin.
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I dont really care for Nirvana myself, but this cat has a point...They
really were influential..They started the whole mainstream grunge
revolution, for better or for worse (I wasnt too pleased with it), and I
have not seen a band that has made more of a splash. (Or gotten so muc
undeserved publicity..except Oasis and Bush...)
--Dr. Badass
On Fri, 7 Mar 1997, Jag-Stang Hero wrote:
> > > >
> > > >Aidan wrote:
> > > >
> > > >When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
> > > >as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
> > > >like none has ever done before and a new age of the
> > > >Mansonites begin.
>
> >
>
>
Walt
Laurent Seiter wrote:>
> M MANSON is as musically dominant as ABBA, as scary as SCORPIONS, as
> energetic as GREEN DAY and as creative as CELINE DION.
M. Mansion is the Alice Cooper of the ninties. Same thing, outragous,
weird, talented but beneith it all, he is a nice guy,.
ian
Jag-Stang Hero <fies...@hotmail.com> writes: > > > >
> > > >Aidan wrote:
> > > >
> > > >When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
> > > >as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
> > > >like none has ever done before and a new age of the
> > > >Mansonites begin.
>
> >
>
>
> No, I disagree...Nirvana is the most influential and was and still is
> the most important band of the 90's. Nirvana is a legendary rock band,
> Manson is a fad rock band. Manson may be the most popular band right
> now, but at the same time, they are the most hated band. Nirvana
> brought people together, gave them a musical taste. I'd bet that if
> Kurt were alive, Nirvana would still be more popular than Marilyn
> Manson.
Fugazi are the most influential rock band of these times.Just look at
how many sad indie ppl were influenced by them.
davidX
Don Guardrail
>> >
>> > When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
>> > as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
>> > like none has ever done before and a new age of the
>> > Mansonites begin.
>>
>> recently? He HATES stupid blind ass followers who devote their life to
>> him (or so he says). But, still, I'm willing to bet you'd freak him
>> out.
>> Besides, as far as dominating the music scene, the Beatles sold (and
>> will continue to sell) infinitely more records, and had a larger percent
>> of the buying public buying their stuff in their heydey. And the Sex
>> Pistols caused more controversy, and GG Allen was much better at the
>> sick-fuck business.
>>
>> -dave
>
>
>GG'd kick manson's scawny ass if he were around today.
>
>davidX
Yeah, and then he'd take a shit on him, and then eat his own shit.
Fuck you all.
Don
Joanie
In article <331FDA...@fan.com>
Brian <d...@fan.com> writes:
> the Dance Hall Crashers are back in the studio recording their
> new one scheduled for release this summer. Want more information?
No you stupid twit, why'd you cross post to a ton of newsgroups that
don't give a shit?
and now I'm doing the same.
Joanie
E. Benson
aidan wrote:
Aidan wrote:
When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
like none has ever done before and a new age of the
Mansonites begin.
laf......that will make the 90's about as interesting as the
70's......
Bill Case
Yeah just like when Alice Cooper did it in the seventies, gee, everybody
really remembers him. HAHAHHA
billXjic
In article <85757690...@ian-one.demon.co.uk>, ian...@demon.co.uk says...
>
>aid...@sprynet.com (aidan ) writes: > Aidan wrote:
>>
>> When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
>> as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
>> like none has ever done before and a new age of the
>> Mansonites begin.
>>
>FUCK OFF ASSHOLE.
>
>davidX
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--->it's their fault, then show off the scars to all their friends and say,
--->"Look, I tried to kill myself. I am cool now."
--->
--->
--->
--->
--->Fuck you all.
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Oh well we need something to laugh at...
Elliott
Your all wrong Guardrail and Bedford is the music of the 90s....so choke on
your own blood and bow to the nerds...
George Handlon
It's very difficult to follow threads on various newsgroups when they
are clogged with completely irrelevant posts from completely unrelated
newsgroups. Many people DO depend on these newgroups for important
information and ideas about various bands, styles.
I would ask that everyone consider this when sending out "bulk mail" to
various "alt.music.------" groups. Sure, many newsgroups are
compatible, general and proper for a broader posting of some items,
announcements, etc. But, to continually carry on cross-raving about a
specific group with long-running dialogues, often full of nothing more
than negative cross-posting at each other - across the entire spectrum
of "alt.music.----" newsgroups... is just garbage.
Tom and/or Alex Ewing
On 9 Mar 1997 06:41:30 GMT, jicsin...@delphi.com (Bill Case) wrote:
>Yeah just like when Alice Cooper did it in the seventies, gee, everybody
>really remembers him. HAHAHHA
Well, you obviously do :).
(Count me in on the Marilyn Manson sucks camp, btw.)
Tom.
tew...@netcomuk.co.uk
"A taste for change, satisfied by a change
in taste."
Panasonic/Swans, LA2, 15/3/97 - be there.
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Walt <wbr...@slic.com> wrote in article <3321BC...@slic.com>...
> ^^^^^^^^^^
Please check your posts before posting :-)
The Trees Have No Mercy
On 7 Mar 1997, Joyce wrote:
>
> . . walk into a bar.
. . and say "Ouch!"
a statistic
yeah, a friend of mine saw them a few years ago with NIN, he said,
they sucked, kind of like watching a crappy joke band that's not
funny.
Jason Jahn
Jay Humphrey wrote:
>
> MM has been around way before this fucking Anti-christ superstar sell out
> crap that they call an album. Manson was in the goth scene since before it
> was called goth.
Really? I seem to recall about 10 years ago a bunch of black clad
freaks, that were hanging out, being depressed, going to see the Rocky
Horror Picture Show, listening to the Sisters of Mercy, The Cure, The
Cult, etc. And you know what? I also seem to recall this being
referred to as the "goth scene." And I certainly don't recall MM.
Bill Case
Find out why Manson sucks!!!!
David Stirling
ian wrote:
>
> aid...@sprynet.com (aidan ) writes: > Aidan wrote:
> >
> > When all is said and done the nineties will be remembered
> > as a time when Marilyn has dominated the music scene
> > like none has ever done before and a new age of the
> > Mansonites begin.
> >
> FUCK OFF ASSHOLE.
>
> davidX
Whatever. The Marilyn Manson age....? I don't think so. Face it, if
groups like Mudhoney, The Melvins, and Nirvana didn't make it big and
break on the scene Manson would still be a closet pedophile who wished
he was a big rock star. All he is, is a Glam Rocker gone bad. Big
fucking deal.
David
Jef Bateman
I am 30 years old and I remember when punk first "broke"--I was 9
years old and did not even hear any punk but was sure it was from the
devil. We heard that the Sex Pistols drank urine and blood and had sex
on stage (not true--although Iggy Pop did stuff as crazy as this).
Anyway, it was a couple years before I decided to listen to some punk
music--and it was great! It was throbbing and angry and you could dance
like a maniac to it. This was especially great since I was experiencing
teenage angst and wasn't having any sex. The anger in the music was a
lot like the anger I was feeling and I loved to slam dance--I got a tooth
knocked out and broke my ankle while partaking in this activity.
Anyway, we have this new band Marilyn Manson that seems to want
to pose themselves as having something to do with punk. They do
not--they are anti-punk. The music has absolutely no throb to it at
all--it's just damned *boring*! I think people like the pose and pretend
to like the "music" because it is an excuse to dress up like a succubus
and smoke clove cigarettes. But once the novelty wears off the "music"
will die. I think Journey has more energy than MM!
--Jef
Neil Arthur O'Connor
Yes, as a matter of fact I do often find myself attracted to mens' feet.
SATAN
I have Nothing against Marylin Manson, Their Music is Great, But There
is Just NO WAY in HELL they Will Start a New Rebelian Of Demented Music
Joey Aguilera
I was thinking of putting up a ska bbs on the Hepcat page which would
allow anyone into any type of ska to post messages about ska and
related topics just like newsgroups. The only difference would be that
you have to setup an account (FREE) and I would have to moderate it. I
dont know if I will do it but I am really sick of all this newsgroup
crap. Everytime I see a Marilyn Manson post I just exit my newsreader.
Although I enjoy Marilyn Manson a lot:)
Joey Aguilera
http://www.sure.net/~arkham/hepcat.html
EdSt1
In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.97031...@general3.asu.edu>, Jef
Bateman <jab...@imap1.asu.edu> wrote:
> Anyway, we have this new band Marilyn Manson that seems to want
> to pose themselves as having something to do with punk. They do
> not--they are anti-punk.
>
If you must label Marilyn Manson it would be heavy metal, not punk. I like
some of their stuff on their first album. The second album is more or less
a 60 minute EP; the latest one I haven't listened too and strikes me as
being odd.
Visual Purple
um, hello, anyone remember sat analogies? i've got a couple that the
college board can use in the future when manson is remembered as a god,
heh, heh. um, the colons stand for "is to" and the double colons are
"as" so it would read like this a is to b as c is to d, comprenden?
marilyn manson : alice cooper :: monkees : beatles
marilyn manson : alice cooper :: alanis morrisette : janis joplin*
*this one i like better because there are parallels, both manson and
cooper have *chick* names and alanis and janis rhyme. um, there are more
i could think of, but prefer to stick ridiculously obvious examples so a
whole lot of people won't start fighting about the analogies. but, if
anyone else has more. . .
peace love and cheese danishes
--
"In the desert / I saw a creature, naked, bestial, / Who squatting upon
the ground, / Held his heart in his hands, / And ate of it. / I said, 'Is
it good friend?' / 'It is bitter-bitter,' he answered; / 'But I like it /
Because it is bitter, / And because it is my heart.'" --Stephen Crane
Michael Forrest Zink
> marilyn manson : alice cooper :: monkees : beatles
You know, this is sooooo untrue, damn it! The distance between the
greatness of the Monkees and the greatness of the Beatles is soooo,
soooooo, sooooooooooo much less than the distance between MM and AC. If
this was a rip on the Monkees, my wrath shall be unleashed. Treat the
2nd greatest band in the whole goddamn universe with some goddamn fucking
respect.
-MZ-
David Perle
jicsin...@delphi.com (Bill Case) wrote:
>Find out why Manson sucks!!!!
My guess is that he likes the taste. Now go away.
David
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Course thats cause hereabouts, an ep is a 3 song 45. Go figure. Damn
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Jef Bateman
On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, EdSt1 wrote:
>
> If you must label Marilyn Manson it would be heavy metal, not punk. I like
> some of their stuff on their first album. The second album is more or less
> a 60 minute EP; the latest one I haven't listened too and strikes me as
> being odd.
>
Heavy metal? The first music called "heavy metal" was blues-inspired
stuff like Led Zeppelin. A lot of the stuff they call "heavy metal" now
is punk with pointless guitar solos played on top of it. MM is mostly
noisy showing off. It is kind of like heavy metal in that it is hard to
listen to, but unlike it because there is no driving rhythm to it.
Anyway, if MM has nothing to do with punk, why are fans always
posting to punk newsgroups? I mean, the Ramones were trying to do the
exact opposite of what MM is doing. They stripped music of pointless
elaboration and ridiculous posing.
BTW, I am a geezer now and listen to almost nothing but good
jazz. That is very interesting music for all you youngsters. Stay away
from New Age music--it will poison your ears to good music.
--Jef
Disco Stu (aka Nick Becker)
Ok, i really don't like keeping this thread alive but i think it needs
to be said and it seems no one else is gonna say it. If you ask me, MM
is not punk, Heavy Metal, Alternative, Rap, Country, or Classical. If
you ask me is 90s pseudo new age GLAM ROCK. Face it, they are more into
how they look than the music. But hey, if you like them you like them,
and you have the right to your opinion (how many times have i had to say
that) and who am i to tell you it's wrong. Just listen to it and shut up
and stop clogging the ng's.
--
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have no cents. Hey, that makes spoony before"
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jjb...@miavx1.muohio.edu
> I feel you are ignorant and you don't know what you are talking about
> because of retarded statements like "Kurt Cobain Sold His Soul to MTV" or
> "Fugazi are sell-outs" both of which are so blatantly untrue, that I have
> no other choice but to think you have no fucking clue what you're talking
granted, Nirvana had videos on MTV and pretty much operated within the music
industry framework, which is questionable behavior for a "punk" band, but how
are FUGAZI sellouts??? they have a perfect record of integrity as far as i'm
concerned, apart from the fact that their albums may be distributed by Dutch
East India or something...
ian
Doctor Badass <jsu...@students.uiuc.edu> writes: > On alt.punk,60 minutes is an album, not an ep. 60 minutes is long, man.
> --Dr. B
>
>
> > Bateman <jab...@imap1.asu.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > Anyway, we have this new band Marilyn Manson that seems to want
> > > to pose themselves as having something to do with punk. They do
> > > not--they are anti-punk.
> > >
> >
> > some of their stuff on their first album. The second album is more or less
> > a 60 minute EP; the latest one I haven't listened too and strikes me as
> > being odd.
> >
> >
an out dated time period.
davidX
donald burke
"Disco Stu (aka Nick Becker)" <nick...@erols.com> wrote:
>Ok, i really don't like keeping this thread alive but i think it needs
>to be said and it seems no one else is gonna say it. If you ask me, MM
>is not punk, Heavy Metal, Alternative, Rap, Country, or Classical. If
>you ask me is 90s pseudo new age GLAM ROCK. Face it, they are more into
>how they look than the music.
this is the same analysis that adam coralla offered on loveline (and he is
BRILLIANT) adding taht mm is going to be remembered like we now remember
glam... BY LAUGHING!
Dr. Fetchington
ian wrote:
>
> MM are not even heavy metal they are just glam rock anachronisms from
> an out dated time period.
>
> davidX
Marilyn Manson is nothing.
They couldn't even hold their weight at
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/1161
I heard that MM is actually PAUL from THE WONDER YEARS.
Is this true?
I don't know.
Maybe they have the answer at
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/1161
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Andy Blinn
Dr. Fetchington wrote:
>
> ian wrote:
> >
> > MM are not even heavy metal they are just glam rock anachronisms from an out dated time period.
> >
> > davidX
>
> Marilyn Manson is nothing.
> They couldn't even hold their weight at
> http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/1161
> I heard that MM is actually PAUL from THE WONDER YEARS.
> Is this true?
> I don't know.
> Maybe they have the answer at
> http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/1161
> --
> -------->Sean K., Editor of Fetch
Hey, I heard that David "ziggy stardust" Bowie is working on a new video
with MM and they are getting along great...like a big friggin love fest!
Look for the single on M2 soon, after the movie sountrack is released!
Andy Blinn
YAAA! The Beatles and Monkees RULE!!! Manson is WAY LAME-O!!! What a
bunch of ripoff freakas! Anyone who thinks MM rules can KISS my tuckus!
:-* YAAA!!
-zippy
z...@taco.net
Nick
ian wrote:
>
> jjb...@miavx1.muohio.edu writes: > > I feel you are ignorant and you don't know what you are talking about
> they are fucking amazing as musicians and as people.
>
> davidX
OK, I'll admit it, I HATE Fugazi's music, but I respect them: after all
this time, all the fans they have, etc... you can still see Fugazi for
only 2 bucks.
ian
MutantPop
>>If you must label Marilyn Manson it would be heavy metal, not punk.
Glam, major label, Alice Cooper ripoff, utterly bogus metal, to be
exact...
t
Jef Bateman
On Fri, 14 Mar 1997, Andy Blinn wrote:
>
> Hey, I heard that David "ziggy stardust" Bowie is working on a new video
> with MM and they are getting along great...like a big friggin love fest!
> Look for the single on M2 soon, after the movie sountrack is released!
>
What is it with Bowie? The local "alternative" paper, the New
Times, ran a review of his new album wherein they said it really rocked
and that new guitarist was really great. If you ever doubted that
chewing nutmeg seeds blows out your brain and chews your hearing, this
guy is evidence!* Those new songs are not really bad--and I really am
glad that Bowie is trying his "scary rock genius" pose again--but once
that guitarist starts playing--gag! I could drop a guitar down a flight
of stairs and it would sound better than that! He is
either tone deaf or deranged. That one single from the album could be a
passable pop song if that worthless fuck would not start scraping his
guitar like that. Sound bytes from cat torture sessions would
give the same effect. The only other band that sounds this bad is Marilyn
Manson. I think this whole thing is a big joke on impressionable
youth.
Once again, I challenge people who like that music to explain to
me why I should give it another chance. I think the biggest MM fans in
the world hate the music and that is why nobody is standing up for them.
--Jef
*disclaimer: I do not know if he chews nutmeg seeds in real life. It was
kind of a joke.
%#&@*!!!
In <19970315071...@ladder01.news.aol.com> muta...@aol.com
of punk attempts to be political, even revolutionary, yet can't hardly
get itself arrested. All talk, no action. An absurd middle-class pose
for an elite with the wherewithal to afford it. Manson, on the other
hand, without making any particularly overt political statements, has
been denounced by none other than William Bennett, fat bloated morality
fuhrer, various other corporate and conservative political luminaries,
and picketed by hundreds of fundamentalist christians on numerous
occasions. Out there in rightwing America Manson resonates like no
anarchy punk band ever has, and is perceived as far more of a threat
than anything that ever came out on a colored vinyl 7" with a limited
press run of 500. Kids growing up under the grim reality of
fundamentalist christian rule finally have someone they can rally
around to protest a situation they are forced to deal with everyday. A
lot of the denouncements of Manson strike me as the petulant sniffs of
an elite who revel in the purity of their feckless obscurity, and is
really an expression of contempt for those people who in a truly
radical situation would be their natural allies.
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justice etc.
MARILYN MANSON is nothing but pop music for 14 years old kids who can't
listen to DARK FUNERAL because it's not played on MTV.
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Leon Keiter
jjb...@miavx1.muohio.edu wrote:
>
> > I feel you are ignorant and you don't know what you are talking about
> > because of retarded statements like "Kurt Cobain Sold His Soul to MTV" or
> > "Fugazi are sell-outs" both of which are so blatantly untrue, that I have
> > no other choice but to think you have no fucking clue what you're talking
>
> granted, Nirvana had videos on MTV and pretty much operated within the music
> industry framework, which is questionable behavior for a "punk" band, but how
> are FUGAZI sellouts??? they have a perfect record of integrity as far as i'm
> concerned, apart from the fact that their albums may be distributed by Dutch
playing shit. They suck, and mtv sucks too.
MWG
"All men have there taste's. Mine is just Corps."
jjb...@miavx1.muohio.edu
In article <33294A...@earthlink.net>, Andy Blinn <an...@earthlink.net> writes:
> Dr. Fetchington wrote:
>>
>> Marilyn Manson is nothing.
>> They couldn't even hold their weight at
>> http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/1161
>> I heard that MM is actually PAUL from THE WONDER YEARS.
>> Is this true?
>> I don't know.
>> Maybe they have the answer at
>> http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/1161
>
> with MM and they are getting along great...like a big friggin love fest!
> Look for the single on M2 soon, after the movie sountrack is released!
>
hey, watch what you're sayin' about Ziggy...Bowie's cool, Mr. Manson sucks.
big difference.
RevHobbito
AMEN!! RIGHT ON THE NOSE!! COULDN'T HAAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF!!
They're fucking identical to KISS, just different makeup!!!
David S. Pensyl
I agree. Marily Manson is definitely not punk. I hate it when people
categorize them as alternative. They aren't even close. They are
definitely heavy metal/crap.
Skartensen
They are not heavy metal. Although I must agree with you, it is crap.
But definitely NOT HEAVY METAL.
air
AIR
Sorry to break it to ya... the music is Goth and a total bore
ian
Skartensen <emac...@prtc.net> writes: > David S. Pensyl wrote:
> >
> > I agree. Marily Manson is definitely not punk. I hate it when people
> > categorize them as alternative. They aren't even close. They are
> > definitely heavy metal/crap.
>
> They are not heavy metal. Although I must agree with you, it is crap.
> But definitely NOT HEAVY METAL.
Manson are industrial arty farty shite,quite simple really.
davidX
P2
I'll toss my two cents in:
What cracks me up about that guy is that he puts up this front of being
like some 'Anti-Rock Star'. When he played here he had his army of children putting these flyers everywhere
saying he was going to destroy their image of rock and roll icons and all this...
so the day of the show he shows up late, does a two second sound check, does some drugs in the dressing room
and takes one of the local girls back to the hotel.
Hmmm... sounds like a typical rock and roll star to me!
David Cummings
ian wrote:
>
> Skartensen <emac...@prtc.net> writes: > David S. Pensyl wrote:
> > >
> > > I agree. Marily Manson is definitely not punk. I hate it when people
> > > categorize them as alternative. They aren't even close. They are
> > > definitely heavy metal/crap.
> >
> > They are not heavy metal. Although I must agree with you, it is crap.
> > But definitely NOT HEAVY METAL.
>
> Manson are industrial arty farty shite,quite simple really.
>
> davidX
I read somewhere (I believe in Rolling Stone--in the waiting room of a
dr's office) that Manson patterned himself and his band after their
favorite 80's cock rock bands: Motley Crue, Grim Reaper, Alice Cooper,
and W.A.S.P.
And ooooh, are'nt they so shocking--naming themselves after famous
serial killers: Manson--Ramierez--Gacy--etc. Ooooooooooooh!
Reid Joshua
It's pointless to try and categorize MM as Goth, Punk, Alternative,
Industrial or Metal. There is really only one catch all word that
encompasses the bands music: Shit.
Don't bother flaming me if you're an MM fan. I'll simply ignore it as I
ignore all of MM's music, fans, goals, etc. Your opinions are not really
respected by me, or anybody in the music industry.