Teenage Zombie Terrorists...
The Twisted Dreams of Fascinet
A George Rogers Clark High School junior arrested Tuesday for
making terrorist threats told LEX 18 News Thursday that the "writings"
that got him arrested are being taken out of context.
Winchester police say William Poole, 18, was taken into custody
Tuesday morning. Investigators say they discovered materials at Poole's
home that outline possible acts of violence aimed at students,
teachers, and police.
Poole told LEX 18 that the whole incident is a big
misunderstanding. He claims that what his grandparents found in his
journal and turned into police was a short story he wrote for English
class.
"My story is based on fiction," said Poole, who faces a
second-degree felony terrorist threatening charge. "It's a fake story.
I made it up. I've been working on one of my short stories, (and) the
short story they found was about zombies. Yes, it did say a high
school. It was about a high school over ran by zombies."
Even so, police say the nature of the story makes it a felony.
"Anytime you make any threat or possess matter involving a school or
function it's a felony in the state of Kentucky," said Winchester
Police detective Steven Caudill.
Poole disputes that he was threatening anyone.
"It didn't mention nobody who lives in Clark County, didn't
mention (George Rogers Clark High School), didn't mention no principal
or cops, nothing," said Poole. "Half the people at high school know me.
They know I'm not that stupid, that crazy."
On Thursday, a judge raised Poole's bond from one to five thousand
dollars after prosecutors requested it, citing the seriousness of the
charge.
Poole is being held at the Clark County Detention Center.
-F
Brian Baird
fasc...@yahoo.com says...
> Poole is being held at the Clark County Detention Center.
I feel safer already. With him locked up, the zombies can't possibly
attack!
--
"The sunshine bores the daylights out of me..."
Tiny Human Ferret
> In article <1109625942....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> fasc...@yahoo.com says...
>
>> Poole is being held at the Clark County Detention Center.
>
>
> I feel safer already. With him locked up, the zombies can't possibly
> attack!
I am extremely concerned that the zombies will hold off the attack until
the only person who knows How To Deal With Them is behind bars.
I dunno though, usually zombies aren't able to come up with a plan quite
that clever. Their level of cleverness is more on the level of making it
a felony for a student to write a story about bad things happening in
highschool.
--
The incapacity of a weak and distracted government may
often assume the appearance, and produce the effects,
of a treasonable correspondence with the public enemy.
--Gibbon, "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire"
==================================================================
"Sometimes, Evil drives a mini-van."
--Desperate Housewives
reneric
"Tiny Human Ferret" <ixnayamsp...@earthops.net> wrote in message
news:4223B63...@earthops.net...
> Brian Baird wrote:
> > In article <1109625942....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> > fasc...@yahoo.com says...
> >
> >> Poole is being held at the Clark County Detention Center.
> >
> >
> > I feel safer already. With him locked up, the zombies can't possibly
> > attack!
>
> I am extremely concerned that the zombies will hold off the attack until
> the only person who knows How To Deal With Them is behind bars.
>
> I dunno though, usually zombies aren't able to come up with a plan quite
> that clever. Their level of cleverness is more on the level of making it
> a felony for a student to write a story about bad things happening in
> highschool.
True, too true! God love the little bastards, eh!
Cause nobody else will;-D
Hatt...@gmail.com
Dingbat, it wasn't the zombies being clever; it was The Zombiemaster
and his cultists coming up with a cunning plan. You see the
Zombiemaster stroking his goatee and cluckling with villanous glee
while the assistant to the mayor and the Cheif of Police stand on
either side of his in red hooded robes, each holding a torch....
Sorry kinda drifted off there
Hatter
Mike D.
I kinda like We Are 138 better.
I was going to try to make a joke about Alice Cooper and Million Dollar
Babies, but it wasn't happening.
Mike D.
Pyromancer
Dreams of Fascinet <fasc...@yahoo.com> breathed:
> On Thursday, a judge raised Poole's bond from one to five thousand
>dollars after prosecutors requested it, citing the seriousness of the
>charge.
>
> Poole is being held at the Clark County Detention Center.
Is this for real or a wind up? The US authorities have really arrested
and jailed someone for "threatening a school" with a zombie attack? Did
someone mistake "Dawn Of The Dead" for a training video or something?
What next - lock up everyone who worked on "Independence Day" for
threatening the world with an alien attack?
--
- Pyromancer.
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The Invisible Hand of Fascinet
Pyromancer wrote:
> Upon the miasma of midnight, a darkling spirit identified as The
Twisted
> Dreams of Fascinet <fasc...@yahoo.com> breathed:
>
> > On Thursday, a judge raised Poole's bond from one to five
thousand
> >dollars after prosecutors requested it, citing the seriousness of
the
> >charge.
> >
> > Poole is being held at the Clark County Detention Center.
>
> Is this for real or a wind up? The US authorities have really
arrested
> and jailed someone for "threatening a school" with a zombie attack?
Did
> someone mistake "Dawn Of The Dead" for a training video or something?
>
> What next - lock up everyone who worked on "Independence Day" for
> threatening the world with an alien attack?
>
The AP article on this went like so:
An 18-year-old high school student was in jail Friday, charged
with threatening an armed takeover of his school.
William Poole, a junior at George Rogers Clark High School in
Winchester, was arrested Thursday at school on a terroristic
threatening charge.
The arrest came after a tip from a family member that Pool was
trying to "recruit a gang to take over the school," Detective Berl
Perdue said.
"He didn't have a gang, but he was attempting to organize one,"
Perdue said.
Police said writings in which Poole tried to persuade other
students to take part in the takeover were found.
"We don't know who's included in this," George Rogers Clark
Principal John Atkins said. "That's what we're working on, to see if
there were other individuals involved. ... We're not sure that there
are."
The police say that there are no zombies. Here's the latest, as of
yesterday:
A chilling and sometimes violent account of a school takeover
raised eyebrows during a hearing in Clark County District Court Tuesday
afternoon. What's still unclear is whether 18-year-old William Poole's
journal entries were a fictional story or details of a plan to recruit
a gang to unleash an armed assault on George Rogers Clark High School.
During the preliminary hearing, excerpts from a journal written by
Poole, who is charged with second-degree terroristic threatening,
seemed to provide few clear-cut answers.
The preliminary hearing marked the first time Winchester police
have publicly disclosed Poole's writings that led police to charge him
on Feb. 22 with threatening an armed takeover of the school, where
Poole was enrolled as a junior.
Poole told police during a 30-minute interview following his
arrest, and later reiterated during an interview with WLEX-TV, that
what police had seized was a story about zombies taking over a high
school, assigned by his English and computer teachers at GRCHS.
However, Detective Steve Caudill testified that neither teacher
had any knowledge of what Poole had written and there was no mention of
zombies in any of the writings.
Poole occasionally shook his head or laid his head on the defense
table as Caudill read excerpts from a journal police allege was an
attempt to recruit a gang to take over GRCHS.
Police were tipped off to the writings by Poole's grandmother,
with whom he lived. Caudill explained that she read his journal and
became concerned.
Seven documents were seized by police. According to police, Poole
was attempting to create a gang called NLS, or No Limited Soldiers,
sometimes also referred to as "True Soldiers," an organization that was
to be comprised of Poole's acquaintances, according to Caudill.
Throughout his writings, Poole makes numerous references to a
"brotherhood," such as in an overview, in which Poole wrote, "We will
make the brotherhood known throughout the high school." It continues
with a three-part plan: 1) Recruit new soldiers, 2) Get everyone in
ranks, and 3) get the numbers to 100.
Caudill testified that at least seven acquaintances of Poole's
reported that Poole had attempted to recruit them into a gang, but that
none of them were interested.
In his writings, Poole makes references to four geographic zones.
Zone Two refers to Clark County, according to Caudill. The other three
zones mentioned in Poole's journal are Barbourville, South Carolina and
New York City.
Caudill also read from a letter sent by an unnamed person who was
referred to as a "colonel" in the Barbourville organization, promising
to aid Poole with weapons and money. In one passage, Caudill testified
the person in Barbourville admitted breaking into homes and said he had
thousands of dollars and 50 guns at his disposal.
"You know what I mean, man. We will handle things if you want us
to," the individual wrote Poole, who referred to himself in the journal
as "Nappy Boy," the head of the Clark County organization, according to
Caudill.
In the overview to his writings, Poole wrote, "We will shut down
all the other groups that come against us." The only way to join the
brotherhood, he wrote, "is doing something stupid."
A separate story, titled "War" was described by Caudill as
"futuristic," and referred to a group of people sitting down at a
kitchen table, where they plan a takeover of a school, determining how
long it will take for police to arrive on the scene. "They will all die
together," Poole wrote.
Another excerpt, read by Caudill, states, "All the boys sit down
at the kitchen table and start planning it out. They wrote down how
many teachers, students and guards were at the high school. Also, how
long it would take police to get there. They wrote down what was needed
and how they was going to do it. They agreed right there they they
would all die together."
He continued, "They yelled, 'kill them,' and all the soldiers of
Zone 2 started shooting. They are dropping every one of them. After
five minutes, all the people are laying on the ground dead."
Other documents, titled "Death of a Soldier" tells his family
goodbye and list two separate dates for his death, Nov. 20, 2004, and
Feb. 19, 2005. The latter date was three days before Poole was
arrested.
One document mentioned that William P would go to the school and
map out the floor plan, including locations of the cameras.
Nowhere in Poole's writings did he refer to a specific school. It
also did not list any specific targets, making only general references
to teachers, students and school security.
According to Caudill, Poole told police that a teacher at GRCHS
read the piece called the "Overview," and warned that Poole could be in
trouble if others at school saw it. Consequently, Poole reportedly told
police that he left his writings at home. The teacher told Caudill he
did not see any of the journal entries that police confiscated.
Assistant County Attorney John Keeton told reporters after the
hearing that, as a prosecutor, he has to take the writings seriously.
"The downside of not taking it seriously is beyond comprehension,"
Keeton explained. He added that "it will all have to play out in
court."
District Judge Brandy Oliver Brown denied a motion by Poole's
attorney, Brian Barker, to reduce his $5,000 bond. Brown instructed
Poole that if he's able to post a $5,000 bond, he is to remain away
from school property and may not have contact with anyone named in his
writings.
You have to remember, folks, that Zombie uprisings from Barbourville,
KY need to be contained early, otherwise who knows what will happen.
-F
Tom..
"The Invisible Hand of Fascinet" <fasc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Pyromancer wrote:
>> Upon the miasma of midnight, a darkling spirit identified as The
> Twisted
>> Dreams of Fascinet <fasc...@yahoo.com> breathed:
>>
>> > On Thursday, a judge raised Poole's bond from one to five
> thousand
>> >dollars after prosecutors requested it, citing the seriousness of
> the
>> >charge.
>> >
>> > Poole is being held at the Clark County Detention Center.
>>
>> Is this for real or a wind up? The US authorities have really
> arrested
>> and jailed someone for "threatening a school" with a zombie attack?
> Did
>> someone mistake "Dawn Of The Dead" for a training video or something?
>>
>> What next - lock up everyone who worked on "Independence Day" for
>> threatening the world with an alien attack?
>>
>
> The AP article on this went like so:
>
In German, we have to do a presentation on the school. When asked to make a
slide on how I'd make it better, I wrote about several things, then ended
with "Failing that, bomb the school to the ground!". Expect to see me in the
papers in a few weeks, alongside an article in the Sun about how I was
obviously influenced by dangerous goth bands like Manson and Slipknot and
Korn, and because I'm a goth who wrote it in German, I must also be a
neo-Nazi.
Also, in English, I was asked to write a piece of serious fiction. My
teacher turned down the 3-page essay, saying that even though she personally
would accept it, she wasn't sure of the possible prejudices of the
examiners, were it actually submitted to the GCSE examiners.
The story in question was about a prostitute on speed, who is haunted by
nightmares about walking a wire over nothingness, and eventually kills a
man, tries to kill another, and is soon after found, inexplicably, in
ribbons.
And I don't mean the silky variety. :)
Tom.. (dangerous teenage Nazi terrorist, who cuts up speed junkie whores) :)
the man from the pointless forest
>
> In German, we have to do a presentation on the school. When asked to make a
> slide on how I'd make it better, I wrote about several things, then ended
> with "Failing that, bomb the school to the ground!". Expect to see me in the
> papers in a few weeks, alongside an article in the Sun about how I was
> obviously influenced by dangerous goth bands like Manson and Slipknot and
> Korn, and because I'm a goth who wrote it in German, I must also be a
> neo-Nazi.
>
yikes. if it weren't for the present climate i'd think that was funny but
frankly i'm wondering if i'll be seeing any more of your posts til you're out
of juve ...
you know, i live in a very right-wing, authoritarian-kind-of-town, but
fortunately the only official censorship of local teens has been the arrest of
two thugs for beating a dog with a skateboard and posting the video they took
of doing it[1]
maybe if they had been in a creative writing program ...
>
> Also, in English, I was asked to write a piece of serious fiction. My
> teacher turned down the 3-page essay, saying that even though she personally
> would accept it, she wasn't sure of the possible prejudices of the
> examiners, were it actually submitted to the GCSE examiners.
> The story in question was about a prostitute on speed, who is haunted by
> nightmares about walking a wire over nothingness, and eventually kills a
> man, tries to kill another, and is soon after found, inexplicably, in
> ribbons.
> And I don't mean the silky variety. :)
>
> Tom.. (dangerous teenage Nazi terrorist, who cuts up speed junkie whores) :)
sounds like a good story
hmm, lessee how many explanations we can come up with for why she wound up in
ribbons
here's one: her dreams are actually expressions of her budding telekinetic
powers which ends up unfortunately when she's hovering herself over a bunch of
extremely dangerous, uh, wires, and decides she must be having a lucid dream
and tries to "wake up"
o wait - make that a great big industrial fan, or a jet turbo. but the turbo
would be more of a splatter, wouldn't it?
--
[1] it was a horrible thing. the dog was a well-groomed dog, had a collar on,
and was obviously more than a good dog for not ripping the pair apart after the
first swing or too. it's assumed the dog didn't survive; one of the pair has
been convicted so far. they were 16 & 17 at the time (i think), the older
getting his picture shown so i take it he's being treated as an adult. not
much punishment for it tho - like two years jail and US$250, tops, maybe?
--
oublio
Tom..
"the man from the pointless forest", with a gruesome dog story, replied:
> Tom.."two dots", tempting authority, was incautious enough to confess:
>
>>
>> In German, we have to do a presentation on the school. When asked to make
>> a
>> slide on how I'd make it better, I wrote about several things, then ended
>> with "Failing that, bomb the school to the ground!". Expect to see me in
>> the
>> papers in a few weeks, alongside an article in the Sun about how I was
>> obviously influenced by dangerous goth bands like Manson and Slipknot and
>> Korn, and because I'm a goth who wrote it in German, I must also be a
>> neo-Nazi.
>>
>
> yikes. if it weren't for the present climate i'd think that was funny but
> frankly i'm wondering if i'll be seeing any more of your posts til you're
> out
> of juve ...
I seem to have been posting less and less. The posts I do make are in
general less than 10 words long. This is probably due to the fact that I
have little to no knowledge of the law, UK or American, and a lot of posts
have been political. I'm not Klaatu, I can't think of a reply to everything.
:)
If I get one free phone call, I'll do as Dogbert did, and call a wrecking
company to knock down wherever I'm imprisoned, then go on the lam, hiding
out in cybercafés until the heat's off under an assumed name.
Let's hope the authorities forget to check alt.gothic. ;)
> you know, i live in a very right-wing, authoritarian-kind-of-town, but
> fortunately the only official censorship of local teens has been the
> arrest of
> two thugs for beating a dog with a skateboard and posting the video they
> took
> of doing it[1]
>
> maybe if they had been in a creative writing program ...
Well, they did deserve to be imprisoned for that. If it was creative
writing, so long as they were just writing, then it wouldn't, or shouldn't,
have been a felony.
>
>>
>> Also, in English, I was asked to write a piece of serious fiction. My
>> teacher turned down the 3-page essay, saying that even though she
>> personally
>> would accept it, she wasn't sure of the possible prejudices of the
>> examiners, were it actually submitted to the GCSE examiners.
>> The story in question was about a prostitute on speed, who is haunted by
>> nightmares about walking a wire over nothingness, and eventually kills a
>> man, tries to kill another, and is soon after found, inexplicably, in
>> ribbons.
>> And I don't mean the silky variety. :)
>>
>> Tom.. (dangerous teenage Nazi terrorist, who cuts up speed junkie whores)
>> :)
>
> sounds like a good story
Why thank you. I believe it was. When I find somewhere I want to post it, I
will.
> hmm, lessee how many explanations we can come up with for why she wound up
> in
> ribbons
>
> here's one: her dreams are actually expressions of her budding
> telekinetic
> powers which ends up unfortunately when she's hovering herself over a
> bunch of
> extremely dangerous, uh, wires, and decides she must be having a lucid
> dream
> and tries to "wake up"
I hadn't thought of that. The real reason is probably a lot less
complicated.
> o wait - make that a great big industrial fan, or a jet turbo. but the
> turbo
> would be more of a splatter, wouldn't it?
That's correct.
No, the real reason comes in two parts, the story part and the real-life
part.
Story part: She's so obsessed with the scalpel she's using to kill people
(though I've referred to it asd a knife and a dagger, just to confuse people
further, as it seems to keep changing, in her mind, anyway) that she almost
wishes it to be her master. She gives it the sweet gift of a human life, but
her speed-induced delusions trigger off other phenomena in her mind, from
other drugs she'd taken in the past, and she fails to kill the second
person, only stab him.
Either he escaped, and she tried to cut herself up as the final gift to her
"master" (the gift of the blood of a devoted servant) or he has overpowered
her, and cut her up.
Real Life part: I was listening to On The Wire by SoM for a good amount of
the lesson, a live version which contained a cover of the song "Teachers",
then "Afterhours", then some other Sisters songs I can't remember now, then
.....So by Soft Cell. Whenever I hear On The Wire, be it the live or studio
version, I imagine myself walking along a wire, trying so hard not to fall.
When I walk along a line, or the kerb, the words to On The Wire come into my
head, it's that powerful. So that's where the nightmare of the wire comes
from. Afterhours and .....So (even if the latter is instrumental) bring into
my mind prostitution, and the former is so blatantly speed-related, I
couldn't help adding that element in.
You see, it's all due to music that I'm so warped in the head. And I love
it. :)
> [1] it was a horrible thing. the dog was a well-groomed dog, had a collar
> on,
> and was obviously more than a good dog for not ripping the pair apart
> after the
> first swing or too. it's assumed the dog didn't survive; one of the pair
> has
> been convicted so far. they were 16 & 17 at the time (i think), the older
> getting his picture shown so i take it he's being treated as an adult.
> not
> much punishment for it tho - like two years jail and US$250, tops, maybe?
Well, that's harsh but more than fair for sadistic murder of a dog. Did
Manson ever make a song with a video of dogs killed by skateboards?
Tom..
Raven Shadowwinds
"Tom.." <kori...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Expect to see me in the
> papers in a few weeks,>>
kewl, t his would mean I knew someone famous. The fact we did not mean FTF
does not mean anything in my little corner of the univers.
alongside an article in the Sun about how I was
> obviously influenced by dangerous goth bands like Manson and Slipknot and
> Korn, >>
Of course said article has no idea who the true dangerous goth bands really
are....
and because I'm a goth who wrote it in German, I must also be a
> neo-Nazi.>>
I am, partly, of german descent. I suppose I'm doomed.
My
> teacher turned down the 3-page essay, saying that even though she
personally
> would accept it, she wasn't sure of the possible prejudices of the
> examiners, were it actually submitted to the GCSE examiners.>>
SO now we no longer have freedom of expression in school?
> The story in question was about a prostitute on speed, who is haunted by
> nightmares about walking a wire over nothingness, and eventually kills a
> man, tries to kill another, and is soon after found, inexplicably, in
> ribbons.
> And I don't mean the silky variety. :)
>
> Tom.. (dangerous teenage Nazi terrorist, who cuts up speed junkie whores)
:) >>
Just cause she doesn't like it....
sheesh
Tiny Human Ferret
> "the man from the pointless forest", with a gruesome dog story, replied:
>
>>yikes. if it weren't for the present climate i'd think that was funny but
>>frankly i'm wondering if i'll be seeing any more of your posts til you're
>>out
>>of juve ...
>
>
> I seem to have been posting less and less. The posts I do make are in
> general less than 10 words long. This is probably due to the fact that I
> have little to no knowledge of the law, UK or American, and a lot of posts
> have been political. I'm not Klaatu, I can't think of a reply to everything.
> :)
Well, when you're as doddering and ancient as I am, you might have even
more replies to anything on hand, ready to trot out. I suspect you'll
have to work rather hard if you're to reach that highly desirable goal. ;)
What I think we're seeing all around the globe, in the US at least, is
an institutionalization of some of the canards of "educator's credos".
Among these are what I'm starting to call "the inevitable truths of the
Mary Sue".
Mr Coffin just had to point me out to the whole idea of the Mary Sue,
which is an idea that threatens to take on a life of its own, as we saw
before your time here in news:alt.gothic back when some members of the
group went into shrieking-harpy mode and declared all new arrivals to be
trolls, etc. A "Mary Sue" is, strictly speaking, a character introduced
into a story as a sort of proxy for the author, who as-it-were pops in
to deliver some pronouncement as dialogue that the author inexplicably
can't, or doesn't wish to, insert as an aside or authorial/ediorial
comment in the text. Generally speaking, this is bad form unless you're
writing the Bible or some other type of document which admits of
prophets and prophecy. In reasonably good literature, one might
introduce a Mary Sue as a passer-by who might utter something of the
nature of a foreshadowing, thereafter to exit stage right and not be
heard from again. Unforunately, there is a school of thought in literary
deconstruction which appears to be quite willing to declare any
character expressing any opinion which might remotely be thought _by the
reviewer_ as editorializing or role-playing by the writer, to be a Mary
Sue. That it's nearly impossible for the writer to write without
expressing some of their own knowledge and beliefs into the story, goes
unstated by the "everything's a Mary Sue" clique. That it's nearly
impossible for a writer to write something remotely readable or
entertaining while doing nothing but editorializing, this seems to
mostly go unnoticed by the "Mary Sue-ists". But I digress.
A certain amount of insight into the mind, interests, or psychology of
the author of any given writer is inherent in any significant work by
the writer. By "significant" I mean "it was non-trivial, actually took
some effort, not the laundry list or a thank-you card to the relatives".
As a writer grows, the likelihood of them _unintentionally_ writing a
Mary Sue into the story becomes ever lesser, and the intentional Mary
Sue becomes rather more a product of the craft and less of the
expression of the previously inarticulate unconscious. There are those
who strongly suspect -- I am certainly among them -- that Composition
exercises, especially in "creative fiction", are designed to bring out
the unarticulated unconscious of students, and give that unconscious a
voice. In the unskilled or barely literate youthful writer -- or the
particularly youthful and rather precocious writer -- it might be
thought that there was a certain validity to the presumption that the
actions of the characters in such a story were the articulation of
unconscious desire, or even conscious desire generally kept walled away
from discussion with others. Thus, the product of the requirement to
produce a Fiction Composition is properly viewed as no less than a
psychological assessment, moreso than any test of literacy or
composition skills. Probably the only way it could _not_ be such would
be if it was intentionally composed as a parody or contained heavy
elements of surrealism. I should point out that when viewed in this
light of composition-as-psychic-probe, surrealism might well tend to get
one assessed as either a genius or a budding schizophrenic; writing
"dada" would probably get you assessed as a budding revolutionary or at
least as some sort of antisocial or "borderline personality" disorder.
Having a law which prohibits the writing of "school catastrophe
compositions" is probably akin to civil committment on the grounds that
someone needed a period of observation to rigorously determine the
likelihood that someone intended to harm self or others. But as this law
is implimented in the jurisdiction in question, this makes a required
composition potentially steppingstone to a criminal warrant for search
and seizure of evidence, which might further even more criminal charges.
Effectively this criminalizes speech, writing, and potentially even
thought. A revision of the law to authorize an emergency civil action
for a short-term committment for observation would be far more sensible
as it wouldn't be a direct impingement on the rights of free speech,
though arguably it skirts those grounds in a more subtle and worrisome
manner, making certain content of speech, alone and by itself, grounds
for psychiatric intervention. I suppose this would be better than trying
to make certain content of speech a crime.
If you'd like to read the Mary Sue that got me thrown out of the
University of Maryland, see http://www.earthops.net/klaatu/loaded.html
Tiny Human Ferret
> "Tom.." <kori...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:d0up27$deu$1...@sparta.btinternet.com...
> Expect to see me in the
>
>>obviously influenced by dangerous goth bands like Manson and Slipknot and
>>Korn, >>
>
>
> Of course said article has no idea who the true dangerous goth bands really
> are....
Ah, there are truly dangeroud Goth bands? Who, Evanescense? ;)
>> and because I'm a goth who wrote it in German, I must also be a
>>neo-Nazi.
>
>
> I am, partly, of german descent. I suppose I'm doomed.
You betcha. You can't say anything about anyone or you'll get that "you
people are all genocidal" slagging. I sure do.
>
>
> My
>
>>teacher turned down the 3-page essay, saying that even though she
>
> personally
>
>>would accept it, she wasn't sure of the possible prejudices of the
>>examiners, were it actually submitted to the GCSE examiners.>>
>
>
> SO now we no longer have freedom of expression in school?
Oh, no. Freedom of Expression is mostly Freedom to Say Something They
Can Jail You For, these days.
<snips>
Raven Shadowwinds
> Raven Shadowwinds wrote:
> > "Tom.." <kori...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:d0up27$deu$1...@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > Expect to see me in the
> >
> <snips>
>
> >>obviously influenced by dangerous goth bands like Manson and Slipknot
and
> >>Korn, >>
> >
> >
> > Of course said article has no idea who the true dangerous goth bands
really
> > are....
>
> Ah, there are truly dangeroud Goth bands? Who, Evanescense? ;)>>
Well, in order for them to be truly dangerous goth bands, I would suspect
that they would have to be at least goth...
>
> >> and because I'm a goth who wrote it in German, I must also be a
> >>neo-Nazi.
>
> >
> >
> > I am, partly, of german descent. I suppose I'm doomed.
>
> You betcha. You can't say anything about anyone or you'll get that "you
> people are all genocidal" slagging. I sure do.>>
It's so tiring, nothing original. Yawn.
were it actually submitted to the GCSE examiners.>>
> >
> >
> > SO now we no longer have freedom of expression in school?
>
> Oh, no. Freedom of Expression is mostly Freedom to Say Something They
> Can Jail You For, these days.
Well I was under the apparently mistaken impression that writing submissions
were supposed to be considered on the basis of talent, not the tastes of the
people reading them. School suck more and more each year. And to think I
now have to worry about bullies in 4th grade (I would have to in HS too, but
older son has the rep that says "leave me the hell alone and I'll leave you
alone, mess with me and I'll fuck you up.") who have body guards. Argh.
Tom..
> were it actually submitted to the GCSE examiners.>>
>> >
>> >
>> > SO now we no longer have freedom of expression in school?
Not really. I mean, she accepted a piece of coursework I'd done about two
boys in love with each other, and I got rather a good mark for it.
>> Oh, no. Freedom of Expression is mostly Freedom to Say Something They
>> Can Jail You For, these days.
>
> Well I was under the apparently mistaken impression that writing
> submissions
> were supposed to be considered on the basis of talent, not the tastes of
> the
> people reading them. School suck more and more each year. And to think I
> now have to worry about bullies in 4th grade (I would have to in HS too,
> but
> older son has the rep that says "leave me the hell alone and I'll leave
> you
> alone, mess with me and I'll fuck you up.") who have body guards. Argh.
Well, I've worried about bullies in the past, and the nicer people here have
been quite good about it.
I don't mind too much if the examiners can't stomach something original. I'd
prefer to put it on the net or something, rather than see it sent off for
some old guy to examine over his horn-rimmed glasses, note the words
"prostitution" and "speed" and "knife" in the text on the first page and
immediately turn it down. :)
Tom..
Tom..
"the man from the pointless forest" <"descent_software "@!hooya!.com> wrote
in message news:JQYYd.1666$UV2.213@trnddc04...
> Tom.."two dots", tempting authority, was incautious enough to confess:
>
>>
>> In German, we have to do a presentation on the school. When asked to make
>> a
>> slide on how I'd make it better, I wrote about several things, then ended
>> with "Failing that, bomb the school to the ground!". Expect to see me in
>> the
>> papers in a few weeks, alongside an article in the Sun about how I was
>> obviously influenced by dangerous goth bands like Manson and Slipknot and
>> Korn, and because I'm a goth who wrote it in German, I must also be a
>> neo-Nazi.
>>
>
> yikes. if it weren't for the present climate i'd think that was funny but
> frankly i'm wondering if i'll be seeing any more of your posts til you're
> out
> of juve ...
Oh, I did my presentation this morning. I got some good laughs, was told my
grammar was quite lacking in some parts, but good originality. So I'll still
be posting here for a while. :P
Tom..
Tiny Human Ferret
> "the man from the pointless forest", with a gruesome dog story, replied:
>
>>yikes. if it weren't for the present climate i'd think that was funny but
>>frankly i'm wondering if i'll be seeing any more of your posts til you're
>>out
>>of juve ...
>
>
> I seem to have been posting less and less. The posts I do make are in
> general less than 10 words long. This is probably due to the fact that I
> have little to no knowledge of the law, UK or American, and a lot of posts
> have been political. I'm not Klaatu, I can't think of a reply to everything.
> :)
Well, when you're as doddering and ancient as I am, you might have even
--
fasc...@mad.scientist.com
Jennie Kermode wrote:
> On 2005-03-10, The Invisible Hand of Fascinet <fasc...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> > The AP article on this went like so:
> > Winchester, was arrested Thursday at school on a terroristic
> > threatening charge.
>
> grasp of grammar. What kind of a word is 'terroristic'?
> It was my understanding that in order to make a threat,
> one had to make that threat _to_ someone, not write it down secretly
> in a journal. How does that terrorise anyone?
>
It's just one more way that Americans are showing their paranoia. I
expect that if you pick up any teenager's diary, then by the standards
of this investigation, you would be able to jail them and post a high
bond for conspiracy to murder.
Considering what I did in high school,* I'm glad I'm not living in this
environment.
Related notes:
(1) William Poole was released on bail provided by a civil liberties
group yesterday.
(2) There was a school shooting yesterday on the Red Lake Indian
Reservation in Minnesota, leaving ten dead.
>
> > However, Detective Steve Caudill testified that neither
teacher
> > had any knowledge of what Poole had written and there was no
mention of
> > zombies in any of the writings.
>
> I'd love to see this story. I'd also like to see the
> detective's book collection. One does have to wonder to what extent
he
> might expect things to be spelled out for him.
>
I rather doubt the detective owns books, unless they're decorative.
Imagination is usually considered a character flaw in a police officer.
I was very interested in reading the story until I read the excerpts.
I'm disappointed that I can't find it on the internet.
>
> > Another excerpt, read by Caudill, states, "All the boys sit
down
> > at the kitchen table and start planning it out. They wrote down how
> > many teachers, students and guards were at the high school. Also,
how
> > long it would take police to get there. They wrote down what was
needed
> > and how they was going to do it. They agreed right there they they
> > would all die together."
>
> This kid shouldn't be getting a criminal conviction. He
> should be getting a D-.
>
Attempted fiction is a serious offense.
Some say we should be more lenient as authorship is only a symptom of
prevailing social conditions, but since the root causes of fiction have
yet to be identified, we have to discourage it by prosecuting those
authors we are lucky enough catch.
If we turn a blind eye to short stories, then the next thing you know,
there will be novels on the shelves of every drug store and supermarket
in America.
-F
* During my first year at CHS,** I got rather annoyed at the "Vote for
Sherry!" banalities that decorated the hallways during the student
elections. I made my own posters, featuring a death's head (cowled
skeleton) offering this advice: "Don't Be A Putz, Vote Death to the
Student Senate." Juvenile, yes, but I was fourteen at the time.
The posters kept getting taken down, so I kept putting them back up. I
originally thought this was because the administration was taking them
down. Instead, students were putting them in their lockers.
After a week and a half or two weeks, I was caught. Why it took them
so long, I don't know. In a fit of idiocy, I'd initialled the drawing.
The principal called me into his office on one of my off hours (we had
two), and eventually searched my bag. When I refused to apologize to
the student senate, he said, "Well, it looks like you've earned
yourself some time off, young man," and sent me to my intermediate
algebra class.
During class, the teacher found someone carrying around one of the
posters and started harranguing the class about how funny they weren't.
As adults tend to do, she made the kids think that the posters were
even funnier. In the back of the room, I was ended up telling someone
that I was the culprit (there being no further need for secrecy), and
that's how I found out that other students thought the posters were
cool.
When I returned to the pricipal's office, I thought I was going to be
suspended for three days. Instead, he stared at me with wide eyes and
said, "you get good grades." I tried to protest that they were
middling at best, but he wouldn't have any of it. "Just don't let it
happen again."
I don't think that qualified as even a slap on the wrist.
I think that it's because of this incident that I never had the trouble
my friends did with upperclassmen, and even the last time I visited the
school (which was before the incident), one of the posters still hung
backstage in the theater department.
** Yes.
Vader des Vaderlands
> An 18-year-old high school student was in jail Friday, charged
> with threatening an armed takeover of his school.
>
>
>
That's a relief.
> Poole occasionally shook his head or laid his head on the defense
> table as Caudill read excerpts from a journal police allege was an
> attempt to recruit a gang to take over GRCHS.
>
> Police were tipped off to the writings by Poole's grandmother,
> with whom he lived. Caudill explained that she read his journal and
> became concerned.
I see what is really happening here: Mr. Bush has resurrected the body
of Joseph Stalin. It was the Zombie Stalin that masterminded the
Patriot Act and the new future USA that the rest of the administration
now espouses in public addresses. Of course it is the only natural and
clear reason as to why September 11th and the arrest of Poole happened:
to prevent would be threats to Zombie Stalin from ever rising up. If
only the rest of the nation weren't so blind to what is really happening
here-
--
best regards, mat
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