Getting myself noticed!
John Culleton
"Mark J. Daniels" <m...@markjdaniels.co.uk> wrote:
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> The biggest difficulty I'm having is capturing the attention of a
> publisher or an agent; hence the website - I'm hoping that it'll turn
up
> in people's faces as they browse the web and perhaps they'll recognise
> the next new talent when he finally lands on their desk!
>
> But, what do people think about e-books? I'm thinking of publishing
> some of my work in its entirety on this website in an electronic
format
> in order to get more attention. Do you think this'll work?
>
> Thanks for your help and I look forward to hearing from people in due
> course.
>
> All the best
>
> Mark.
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> Mark J. Daniels
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The whole concept of e-books is new enough that I opine with great
caution. However I am of the opinion that e-books are one kind of thing,
and print publication another. I would not think that e-book publication
would attract a print publisher or agent. Instead I would go the
traditional route and write publishers and agents listed in Literary
Market Place or Writers Guide. If you are in the UK there are equivalent
publications I am sure.
There is a certain amount of catch-22 involved in getting published. If
you are already published somewhere it is easier to get the attention of
an agent. So consider writing short stories or whatever for some market
to establish some credentials. Agents are interested in published
authors. And agents are the way to go with fiction. Non-fiction is
another story.
HTH
John Culleton
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Terje Johansen
John Culleton <jo...@ccpl.carr.org> wrote in message
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Getting an agent is a rotten piece of work, but in e-publishing you don't
need them. Find an e-publisher and go straight for the market!
But please, don't just publish the whole thing on your homepage - you'll
lose first publishing rights.
-Terje Johansen
Gary Carson
Terje Johansen wrote in message ...
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>> and print publication another. I would not think that e-book publication
>> would attract a print publisher or agent. Instead I would go the
>> traditional route and write publishers and agents listed in Literary
>> Market Place or Writers Guide. If you are in the UK there are equivalent
>> publications I am sure.
>>
>> There is a certain amount of catch-22 involved in getting published. If
>> you are already published somewhere it is easier to get the attention of
>> an agent. So consider writing short stories or whatever for some market
>> to establish some credentials. Agents are interested in published
>> authors. And agents are the way to go with fiction. Non-fiction is
>> another story.
>Getting an agent is a rotten piece of work, but in e-publishing you don't
>need them. Find an e-publisher and go straight for the market!
>But please, don't just publish the whole thing on your homepage - you'll
>lose first publishing rights.
I don't do fiction. So, maybe my expereinces aren't relevant to some of
y'all.
But, It took me less than 24 hours to find an agent once I had a contract
offer in hand.
Once I got the contract offer I called an agent who I'd previously written
too and hadn't gotten a response yet. When I left a message on her machine
that I had an offer and would like her to negotiate the contract terms, I
got a return call the next morning.
Be looking for an agent. But, don't worry about it -- do your own selling
for your first book.
As far as first rights. I've asked before, has this been a problem for
anyone?
I sold my book the traditinal way, to Carol Publishing Group based on a
proposal. They bought book rights, not first rights. Some of the subsidary
rights we split, some they got, some I got. I got the internet rights.
Because, at the time I was writing a column for gaminglinks.com (now
defunct) that was a deal killer for me.
But, Carol went bankrupt before the book went to print. So, I'm stuck with
the book but can't publish it in traditinal form until the bankruptcy court
gets thru. So, I self-publish on the web.
The book is on poker and there is an establihsed bookstore site for
gambling/poker books (conjelco.com). I've talked to the guy who owns
conjelco and I will be listing my e-book in their catalog in adobe format on
disks. That does a couple of things for me. 1). He gives my book
credibility because he's a selective niche bookseller. 2). It allows
credit card sales.
I'm giving him a 50% discount (the book is high priced and has some extra
benefits that I'd mentioned in another thread). I"d offered a 40% discount
and he said he wanted 50. I think thats a high discount to give him, but
it's worth if for the credibility that a listing in his catalog gives me.
Or at least that's what I convinced myself. We didn't discuss it as
royalties, he's getting a bookseller discount and I'm self-publishing the
book. But, he's going to do the conversion from word format to adobe.
The print rights to the book are still tied up in court. It will have a
print verision in a year of two. First rights have not and will not enter
into the picture. So far no one has even mentioned ideas of first rights.
Gary Carson
Rod Cookson
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> Instead I would go the
> traditional route and write publishers and agents listed in Literary
> Market Place or Writers Guide. If you are in the UK there are equivalent
> publications I am sure.
The two standards are The Writers' and Artists' Yearbook and The
Writer's Handbook, both published annually. I prefer The Writers' and
Artists' myself.
Roderick MacDonald
from Rod Cookson <r...@mclean-press.com> contains these words:
Both have their advantages and disadvantages.
I tend to update one each alternate year.
Rod
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RCampb3422
to say the chances of that happening are very slim. Submit your work to
editors/agents/publishers. That remains the best way to get noticed.
Denise
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