Wedding bells???
Heather
you don't know how wrong you are! -Denise said.
Well thanks for sharing that Denise and if it is do we all get
invites???
raynd...@hotmail.co.uk
<<Well thanks for sharing that Denise and if it is do we all get
invites>>
Did I SAY what you are assuming??!!
All I implied was Pearl was wrong AGAIN.
Joe has changed big time. ( I know... I know..., I can feel the snorts
from you all!!!)
Lisa has calmed Joe right down - mixed in with the loss of his dad....
I'd say he is a changed man.
Denise
Heather
Heather
Lilith Bee
raynden2...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> I'd say he is a changed man.
>
from what, to what?
LB~
curious of D's opinion....
PearL
Mandy
PearL wrote:
> People dont change overnight. Doesnt happen.
People never truely change anyways. There's always some large fraction
of who they once were and believe me people never change for the
better. I think some things do change in people like I used to be
really shy when I was a small child but even that doesn't really change
because I still get terribly shy at parties and around men. My sister
and brother have always had to be stars and the only that changed with
them is they're more dramtic now. No body ever really changes that's
why so many people look for changes to make materialistically and
physically in their lives because so rarely do we change vastly on the
inside. I mean seriously I bet there's a bucketful of things you still
think and feel and act like that you did when you were seven years old.
You've just learned to handle it in a more sophisicated way is all.
Speech changes, limbs grow, hair darkens and falls out, mountains
crumble but people seldom change.
raynd...@hotmail.co.uk
<<from what, to what? >>
>From a guy with issues brought on by unstable women in his life, to a
really happy settled down and very loved up guy with a decent job and
earning money to pay support for his daughter.
>From a guy living in a nightmare house full of 35 years of accumulated
crap (sorry Joe) .....to a guy with a beautiful house and a beautiful
girlfriend helping him make it 'home'.
Hope my opinion has satisfied your curiousity. That is what i meant by
changed.
Denise
Lilith Bee
<raynd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote
>
>>From a guy with issues brought on by unstable women in his life, to a
> really happy settled down and very loved up guy with a decent job and
> earning money to pay support for his daughter.
So, all of Joe's problems and issues *before*- were someone else's fault?
>
>>From a guy living in a nightmare house full of 35 years of accumulated
> crap (sorry Joe) .....to a guy with a beautiful house and a beautiful
> girlfriend helping him make it 'home'.
And this new woman gets credit for all the change?
Where does Joe get to take responsibility for his own life?
>
> Hope my opinion has satisfied your curiousity. That is what i meant by
> changed.
Somewhat, I suppose. After all, it's just another opinion. ;-)
The strangest thing is- of the three parts above, the first two- appear to
be quotes, see the little indent things (>) ...while the third part, "Hope
my.." appears to be original. Weird.
LB
PearL
Lilith Bee wrote:
> The strangest thing is- of the three parts above, the first two- appear to
> be quotes, see the little indent things (>) ...while the third part, "Hope
> my.." appears to be original. Weird.
:::grins::: Hmm... VERY nice observation Lilith. ; )
Her Benevolence, The BEAST
"Lilith Bee" <som...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:lWfdg.18$cA...@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
I think she used the > symbol as a bullet point....On my monitor, I
can see that the > comes before the first word of the section, but
not the rest of the sentence/paragraph. It may depend on how your
newsreader wraps it, though.
noted
The BEAST
Mandy
-snickers- Now I feel sorry for him. A) that's not a personally growth
or change Denise. That's materialistic lifestyle changes. There's a big
difference imo. But maybe I'm the only person that feels that way.
Although its nice that he's not a deadbeat dad its just a shame you
presented it like he was prior to the new(?) girlfriend. If a
girlfriend is the one that makes you want to see and pay for your own
kid that's not a change and I speak this from experience. My biological
father IS a deadbeat dad. When I was around seven years old he got
engaged and all of a sudden he was willing to pay support and be a
father...(you know the dramtic bits Pearly and I have no desire to have
everyone here know them so keep it on the DL plz). To make matters
worse he thought I was around ten years old instead of seven and hurt
me in the end very badly. He took off shortly after they wed (which is
another entire child's disappointment story altogether), and he's never
been my father since. And trust me he wasn't good at it while he was
with his fiancee either. All he was was a liar pretending to be a
Daddy. I absolutely despise men that find a woman and change and want
to be daddies for that particular woman. They should just stay away
imo. And no I'm not saying Joe's like that but that you painted that
picture across and it made me think of my own father. I guess it was
the wording. Or maybe he is like that. -shrugs- I hope not though
because daddies like that leave emotional scars that reflect at a much
later time and date.
Heather
he couldn't come inside any woman for years after I accidently fell
pregnant with my daughter. I felt so sorry for him.
I'm sure Sue, Karen no.1, Tracy no.1 ,Susan?, S ( a friend), Angie,
Marie, Pam,?, Susie, Helen, Me, Hazel, Joanna, Sally?,Karen,Lorraine,
Sarah, Lisa, Kris, Me again, Tracyno.2 and Lisa again are so happy to
be called unstable women. Ok I'm damn sure that isn't a comprehensive
list but yes there's a lot of scope for issues there.
Denise have I missed anyone out? Is that the running order?
He's been unemployed for 12 years although he enjoyed a better
lifestyle than anyone else in the same position but it's only now he
can "support" his daughter. Well you can read about it on usenet or
fall over the Oldfield collection or the DVD collection.
Thank God for the girl's mother being able to do that for 12 years. Oh
wait that was me.
You know support doesn't always have to consist of material items or
money.The best support in my opinion is spending time with your
children. It's amazing to watch them learn and grow. There's landmarks
that if you miss you'll never see again. The first tooth, first roll,
first steps and the first words.
It's a pity that some people who seem to have all the time in the world
miss these landmarks.But of course he had issues and these got in the
way of being around me and of course our daughter. I totally
understand.
Nothing to do with him being selfish and spending time with a line of
women of course or trying to be an actor for 12 years or calling me
from an airport before travelling of to Canada on my first day back to
Uni when he was meant to be taking his daughter to nursery.
Funny how some of his issues didn't stop him sleeping with me. You'd
think it would.
Oh well I'm glad some he's catching up now to support our daughter.
Funny he did meet a couple of housekeepers in his life. Thank heavens
for their input or he'd have lost the front door. And strangely Joe's
good at loved up.It's commonly known as the honeymoon period.
Yes it's a great house isn't it.House for a single man in Dundee.My he
was lucky there or was he economical with the truth?
Now which one was it?
Now why would his beautiful girlfriend be making the beautiful house
into a home when she doesn't live there? That's strange.
Denise why do you keep saying sorry to Joe here btw?
Lilith Bee
"Her Benevolence, The BEAST" <thecast...@yahoo.com> wrote
>
> I think she used the > symbol as a bullet point....On my monitor, I
> can see that the > comes before the first word of the section, but
> not the rest of the sentence/paragraph. It may depend on how your
> newsreader wraps it, though.
>
<nods> I see your point BEAST, however~ none of her other posts appear
this way.
just strange, different. <shrugs>
LB~
Mandy
I'm sorry to read that, its a terrible shame. Its good to know she had
at least one parent to count on though. You should be really proud. I
get what you're saying. My sperm donor left when I was probably
slightly under two years old and he did miss out on everything although
sometimes I think I'm better off for it and other times I feel insecure
knowing that I wasn't enough. My mother has to be my top most favorite
person in the entire world and I'm always so proud of her. Imo she gave
a lot up to keep me and Phillip and to make a marriage work that was
bound to fail. Honestly my mom wemt through so much with the
biological father and even more without his help and financial support
years later so I always give major props to single mothers because they
don't ever seem to stop and realize how incredible they truely are. Imo
its far easier to give up and not be the parent than it is to grit your
teeth and go through everyday stuggles. I'm sure one day your daughter
wil feel extremely blessed if she doesn't already. Like I said my mom's
my top person and I'd hate to disappoint her its my biggest fear. My
mom is still here still supporting me whereas Andy is state trotting
just to get out of paying his dues. In the long run even though I want
him to love me he wont be the first parent I think of at night. And in
the end chances are good you'll be her top too. I'm still really
impressed that you did the whole single mom thing or rather that you do
it. Its one heck of a difficult job.
Heather
Heather