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Oct 6, 2008, 11:21:21 AM10/6/08
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On Oct 3, 11:12 am, "asty...@yahoo.com" <asty...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I have read about how the founding fathers of USA were into
> Astrology.....especially Benjamin Franklin.
>
> My question is why did they pick July 4, 1776 to sign the
> Declaration of Independence?
>
> To me, it seemed like a bad day to sign
> because of Sun Square Saturn and Mercury retrograde in Cancer
>
> The Sun is in alignment with Sirius which is said to be a powerful
> star.
>
> but I don't think that it trumps Sun square Saturn
>
> heck,I have Moon in alignment with Fomalhaut, but I am like..so
> what...it doesn't trump my t-square Moon square the opposition of
> Saturn and Jupiter-Neptune. my Saturn/Neptune midpoint happens to be
> exactly opposite Fomalhaut too. I have Moon in alignment with
> Fomalhaut and Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune midpoint with 17 minutes of
> arc. It's like My Moon=Saturn/Neptune and Moon-Fomalhaut theme in my
> chart. It could be the conflict of idealism clashing with reality as
> well as spiritual faith being tested by hardship. I admit that my Sun
> trine Moon might help ease the t-square too.
>
> it would seem to me that planetary aspects are more important than
> fixed star alignments.
>
> maybe USA's Sun-Sirius alignment and Sun square Saturn share a theme.
> It could be issue of pride,ambition as well as arrogance of a
> patronizing nature(how dare our nature we act like somebody else's
> parents because our culture is superior - views shared by many
> outside the USA)
>
> Sirius *
> the Dog Star
> the Sun of the Sun
> the prime Sun of our Galaxy Ambition, pride, emotionality, fame,
> leadership, wealth, fires, drought, danger through impetuosity.http://www.astrologycom.com/fixedstars.html#Cancer
>
> a retrograde Mercury in Cancer, is not a good time to be signing
> documents....obviously when they signed the declaration of
> Independence,they didn't have all Americans in mind
> the retrograde Mercury has an opposition to Pluto, but the founding
> fathers didn't know about the undiscovered Pluto at the time. But to
> me, this country can have emotional biases that adversely affect
> decisions as well as can be very suspicious,and distrustful of others
> who they might not see as patriotic because they question the
> government.
> Ironically, USA was a country founded by people who rebelled against
> the ruling British government. If anything, back in those days, they
> could have been viewed as being unpatriotic or traitors to their
> sovereign nations.
>
> the same with Sun in Cancer square Saturn in Libra which doesn't seem
> like they truly cared about justice when they signed the document.
> Justice was very limited...I would say. Of course,conflict with
> authorities.
>
> I would like to get some thoughts from others about this.
>
> Raymond
> I have read about how the founding fathers of USA were into
> Astrology.....especially Benjamin Franklin.
>
> My question is why did they pick July 4, 1776 to sign the
> Declaration of Independence?
>
> To me, it seemed like a bad day to sign
> because of Sun Square Saturn and Mercury retrograde in Cancer
>
> The Sun is in alignment with Sirius which is said to be a powerful
> star.
>
> but I don't think that it trumps Sun square Saturn
>
> heck,I have Moon in alignment with Fomalhaut, but I am like..so
> what...it doesn't trump my t-square Moon square the opposition of
> Saturn and Jupiter-Neptune. my Saturn/Neptune midpoint happens to be
> exactly opposite Fomalhaut too. I have Moon in alignment with
> Fomalhaut and Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune midpoint with 17 minutes of
> arc. It's like My Moon=Saturn/Neptune and Moon-Fomalhaut theme in my
> chart. It could be the conflict of idealism clashing with reality as
> well as spiritual faith being tested by hardship. I admit that my Sun
> trine Moon might help ease the t-square too.
>
> it would seem to me that planetary aspects are more important than
> fixed star alignments.
>
> maybe USA's Sun-Sirius alignment and Sun square Saturn share a theme.
> It could be issue of pride,ambition as well as arrogance of a
> patronizing nature(how dare our nature we act like somebody else's
> parents because our culture is superior - views shared by many
> outside the USA)
>
> Sirius *
> the Dog Star
> the Sun of the Sun
> the prime Sun of our Galaxy Ambition, pride, emotionality, fame,
> leadership, wealth, fires, drought, danger through impetuosity.http://www.astrologycom.com/fixedstars.html#Cancer
>
> a retrograde Mercury in Cancer, is not a good time to be signing
> documents....obviously when they signed the declaration of
> Independence,they didn't have all Americans in mind
> the retrograde Mercury has an opposition to Pluto, but the founding
> fathers didn't know about the undiscovered Pluto at the time. But to
> me, this country can have emotional biases that adversely affect
> decisions as well as can be very suspicious,and distrustful of others
> who they might not see as patriotic because they question the
> government.
> Ironically, USA was a country founded by people who rebelled against
> the ruling British government. If anything, back in those days, they
> could have been viewed as being unpatriotic or traitors to their
> sovereign nations.
>
> the same with Sun in Cancer square Saturn in Libra which doesn't seem
> like they truly cared about justice when they signed the document.
> Justice was very limited...I would say. Of course,conflict with
> authorities.
>
> I would like to get some thoughts from others about this.
>
> Raymond
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