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Candy West

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Jul 21, 2008, 7:16:49 AM7/21/08
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Hello, reality rendering is a polite term for magick, that is nagual,
that is a second of true mind, that is mind void. You never notice or
you can produce a prolonged mind void, the necessary "timeless time"
in order t=for the nagual to slip into the matrix and hack it. To hack
the matrix one has to scan it first for best results but astrology is
not required. One can of course dis-create the evil transits ahead and
astrology at large.

I never heard of cognitive therapy, but to help illustration, the
RTRRT act in minutes so there is no time for long procedures. Cancer
has been healed in say days, but e.g. money used to come in say 1/2
hour as reported by various people on Usenet. To say the truth it
appears that those people did have prior experience in various
clearing techniques such as O5.

The RTRRT discreate psyche, eventually, thus they are the negation of
the psychological melodrama as started by perhaps Freud. let us say
that we incline towards Adler rather than mere Jung. Since the psyche
is a parasite that never pertained to man, it is discreated. When it
is discreated for "a second", the magickal mind takes over and
SnowCrash happens, that is, instant magick manifests in the present,
past or futurity.

In lieu of http://lulu.com/astrology

Tom

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Jul 21, 2008, 6:06:54 PM7/21/08
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"Candy West" <wire...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hello, reality rendering is a polite term for magick, that is nagual,
> that is a second of true mind, that is mind void.

Claudio! When did you become Candy? Is this merely a sock-puppet or are
you trying to tell us something about your personal life?

mika

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Jul 21, 2008, 7:05:35 PM7/21/08
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On Jul 21, 3:06 pm, "Tom"wrote:
> "Candy West" wrote in message

>
> > Hello, reality rendering is a polite term for magick, that is nagual,
> > that is a second of true mind, that is mind void.
>
> Claudio!  When did you become Candy?  Is this merely a sock-puppet or are
> you trying to tell us something about your personal life?

His horoscope told him he needed a sex change in order to properly
align with the new astrology.

HAPPYsamuri

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Jul 21, 2008, 7:13:10 PM7/21/08
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TOM

if you are thinking of "experimenters"

have you tried other groups like alt magic etc

mika

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Jul 21, 2008, 8:01:15 PM7/21/08
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Why should he? Do you think practicing magick precludes
experimentation? Or practicing nlp, reiki, or dream interpretation
for that matter? Does the idea of subjecting your beliefs and
practices to scientific experimental procedures disturb you so much
that you'd prefer it not even be discussed?

HAPPYsamuri

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Jul 21, 2008, 8:38:45 PM7/21/08
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On 22 Jul, 12:01, mika <mika...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 21, 4:13 pm, HAPPYsamuri <profstock...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > TOM
>
> > if you are thinking of "experimenters"
>
> > have you tried other groups like alt magic etc
>
> Why should he?

Tom has lead me to believe he would like to do some experiments with
like minded indivduals


 Do you think practicing magick precludes
> experimentation?

not at all

for me the root of the word "experiment" is in "experience"

like the "practice" of

 Or practicing nlp, reiki, or dream interpretation
> for that matter?  Does the idea of subjecting your beliefs and
> practices to scientific experimental procedures disturb you so much
> that you'd prefer it not even be discussed?

it doesn't disturb me at all

unless discretion and honor are required -

or - in the case of double and triple blind experiments

were some degree of secrecy is required as part of the "experiment"

Tom

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Jul 22, 2008, 12:39:29 AM7/22/08
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"mika" <mik...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 21, 4:13 pm, HAPPYsamuri <profstock...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> TOM
>>
>> if you are thinking of "experimenters"
>>
>> have you tried other groups like alt magic etc
>
> Why should he? Do you think practicing magick precludes
> experimentation?

Evidently he does.

> Does the idea of subjecting your beliefs and
> practices to scientific experimental procedures disturb you so much
> that you'd prefer it not even be discussed?

Evidently it does.

HAPPYsamuri

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Jul 22, 2008, 2:48:27 AM7/22/08
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On 22 Jul, 16:39, "Tom" <dantPAYATTENTIONo...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "mika" <mika...@gmail.com> wrote in message

apologies - was talking to another "Tom" on ACA without checking
original cross post status

hope the "evidence" makes sense to somebody

thomas_...@hotmail.com

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Jul 22, 2008, 4:29:43 AM7/22/08
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> apologies - was talking to another "Tom" on ACA without checking
> original cross post status
>

And what "Tom" on ACA might that be ?

And by the way, why do you keep trying to send me hither and yarn

Or keep suggesting I need to refrain from answering question about
Elmira etc.

Seems to me someone has you pegged.

> > for that matter? Does the idea of subjecting your beliefs and


> > practices to scientific experimental procedures disturb you so much
> > that you'd prefer it not even be discussed?
>

> it doesn't disturb me at all
>
> unless discretion and honor are required -
>

Discretion and honor ?

You seem to have been discretely trying not to appear to me to be
overtly Avatarian... yet it seems to be leaking through.

Not very honorable IMO.

If not Harry, you appear to at least have some vested interest. What
might that be ?

> > or - in the case of double and triple blind experiments
> >
> > were some degree of secrecy is required as part of the "experiment"

What experiment ?

The intention to get Tom to shut up or go elsewhere experiment ?

HAPPYsamuri

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Jul 22, 2008, 6:59:56 AM7/22/08
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On 22 Jul, 20:29, thomas_a_bo...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > apologies - was talking to another "Tom" on ACA without checking
> > original cross post status
>
> And what "Tom" on ACA might that be ?
>

I wonder


> And by the way, why do you keep trying to send me hither and yarn
>
> Or keep suggesting I need to refrain from answering question about
> Elmira etc.
>
> Seems to me someone has you pegged.

Tom thos your research inot manifestion may be IMMENSE - you have not
discovered how to check my old posts

>
> > > for that matter?  Does the idea of subjecting your beliefs and
> > > practices to scientific experimental procedures disturb you so much
> > > that you'd prefer it not even be discussed?
>
> > it doesn't disturb me at all
>
> > unless discretion and honor are required -
>
> Discretion and honor ?
>
> You seem to have been discretely trying not to appear to me to be
> overtly Avatarian... yet it seems to be leaking through.
>

OK tom - you got me

i'm harry


> Not very honorable IMO.

text without context is pretext

>
> If not Harry, you appear to at least have some vested interest. What
> might that be ?
>
> > > or - in the case of double and triple blind experiments
>
> > > were some degree of secrecy is required as part of the "experiment"
>
> What experiment ?
>
> The intention to get Tom to shut up or go elsewhere experiment ?

I answered Mika's question before - about experiemnting with magick
before i realised we were talking at x purposes thanks to a cross post
by the thread initiator -- perhaps the web is slow at the moment and
you can't see the previous posts -

love Hary

thomas_...@hotmail.com

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Jul 22, 2008, 2:59:24 PM7/22/08
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> Tom thos your research inot manifestion may be IMMENSE - you have not
> discovered how to check my old posts
>

You've made approximately 5836 post in here over the past few years.
Is any one of these posts in particular supposed to enlighten me on
something. And if so, what ?

My statements you cited just prior to that were:

1.


> And by the way, why do you keep trying to send me hither and yarn
> Or keep suggesting I need to refrain from answering question about
> Elmira etc.

2.


> Seems to me someone has you pegged.

Are your old posts supposed to answer question 1 or comment 2 above ?

>
> OK tom - you got me
>
> i'm harry

Really ?

> > If not Harry, you appear to at least have some vested interest. What
> > might that be ?

? - - - You don't wish to comment on this - - - ?

>
> I answered Mika's question before - about experimenting with magick
> before i realized we were talking at x purposes thanks to a cross post


> by the thread initiator -- perhaps the web is slow at the moment and
> you can't see the previous posts -
>

I see the previous posts, but you said:
--------------------------------
HAPPYsamuri

TOM

if you are thinking of "experimenters"

have you tried other groups like alt magic etc

---------------------------------

and then:

---------------------------------


> "mika" <mika...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> > On Jul 21, 4:13 pm, HAPPYsamuri <profstock...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> TOM
> >> if you are thinking of "experimenters"
> >> have you tried other groups like alt magic etc
>
> > Why should he? Do you think practicing magick precludes
> > experimentation?
>
> Evidently he does.
>

> > Does the idea of subjecting your beliefs and
> > practices to scientific experimental procedures disturb you so much
> > that you'd prefer it not even be discussed?
>

> Evidently it does.

apologies - was talking to another "Tom" on ACA without checking
original cross post status

-------------------------------------------

So your comments, according to you, I take it "TOM if you are


thinking of "experimenters" have you tried other groups like alt

magic etc.

Were actually intended for "Tom" on ACA which I think we might assume
is me.

Leaving all that questionable material aside, I was referring to your
REPEATED posts IN HERE ON ACA that had nothing whatsoever to do with
any "cross postings" but rather your continual comments along the same
lines that I should go looking elsewhere.

Some people in another newsgroup thought you were addressing one of
their members another "Tom" on alt.dreams.castaneda You made it clear
that you were not intending to address THAT Tom but instead THIS Tom.
Am I correct ?

Either way, My question and my statement stand.

Your intentions are transparent, even when mis-posted on another
newsgroup.

But your intention to send me elsewhere and to shut up about my
"experiments" has been an ongoing theme in here for days on end
anyway.

Eldon

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Jul 23, 2008, 2:15:10 AM7/23/08
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On Jul 22, 12:59 pm, HAPPYsamuri <profstock...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 22 Jul, 20:29, thomas_a_bo...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > apologies - was talking to another "Tom" on ACA without checking
> > > original cross post status
>
> > And what "Tom" on ACA might that be ?

Obviously Tom is not the same as thomas_a_booth. The original one was
cross-posted to a whole slew of newsgroups as Claudio Z. tends to do.

thomas_...@hotmail.com

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Jul 23, 2008, 5:12:41 PM7/23/08
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> > > And what "Tom" on ACA might that be ?
>
> Obviously Tom is not the same as thomas_a_booth. The original one was
> cross-posted to a whole slew of newsgroups as Claudio Z. tends to do.
>

You have a way of "clarifying" things, which brings no clarification.

Is there some other "Tom" in here (alt.clearing.avatar) that Happy has
been talking to ?

My name IS Thomas, Tom for short. But my name is NOT my email address.

So what you are declaring to be "obvious" I still have no idea.

mika

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Jul 23, 2008, 5:53:15 PM7/23/08
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On Jul 23, 2:12 pm, thomas_a_bo...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Eldon wrote:
> >
> > Obviously Tom is not the same as thomas_a_booth. The original one was
> > cross-posted to a whole slew of newsgroups as Claudio Z. tends to do.
>
> You have a way of "clarifying" things, which brings no clarification.

Nothing will ever be clear if you don't open your eyes.

> Is there some other "Tom" in here (alt.clearing.avatar) that Happy has
> been talking to ?

Look at your header. Look at the list of people who have been
participating in this thread. "here" includes alt.magick, wherein
exists an active participant named "Tom".

> So what you are declaring to be "obvious" I still have no idea.

Are you always this dense, or are you just lazy?

Tom

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Jul 23, 2008, 6:05:05 PM7/23/08
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<thomas_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> .
>> > > And what "Tom" on ACA might that be ?
>>
>> Obviously Tom is not the same as thomas_a_booth. The original one was
>> cross-posted to a whole slew of newsgroups as Claudio Z. tends to do.
>>
>
> You have a way of "clarifying" things, which brings no clarification.
>
> Is there some other "Tom" in here (alt.clearing.avatar) that Happy has
> been talking to ?

Probably lots. I'm the Tom who posts regularly to alt.magick, for example.
Crossposting always leads to this sort of mix-up.

> My name IS Thomas, Tom for short. But my name is NOT my email address.

Same here.

thomas_...@hotmail.com

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Jul 23, 2008, 9:33:52 PM7/23/08
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>
> Nothing will ever be clear if you don't open your eyes.
>
> > Is there some other "Tom" in here (alt.clearing.avatar) that Happy has
> > been talking to ?
>
> Look at your header.  Look at the list of people who have been
> participating in this thread.  "here" includes alt.magick, wherein
> exists an active participant named "Tom".
>
> > So what you are declaring to be "obvious" I still have no idea.
>
> Are you always this dense, or are you just lazy?

Well, mika

If you look at Happy's apparent apology above, which reads:

Quot: "apologies - was talking to another "Tom" on ACA without


checking original cross post status"

My assumption is, based on this apology addressed to the "Tom" on
alt.magick stating his comments were addressed to a different "Tom" on
ACA that he saw a post by "Tom" from alt.magick which appeared on ACA
and mistook that "Tom" for the "Tom" he had been in a discussion with
for the past several days on ACA which happens to be me.

This isn't complicated really.

I don't think that I am blind, dense or lazy but you may want to
double check yourself on those particulars.

Thanks

HAPPYsamuri

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Jul 23, 2008, 9:46:33 PM7/23/08
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On Jul 24, 10:05 am, "Tom" <dantPAYATTENTIONo...@comcast.net> wrote:
> <thomas_a_bo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

Still not like the glory days of Corey's x posting [sorry to bring
back bad memories]

hope he's well in whatever parrallel universe he ended up in

=)

Tom

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Jul 23, 2008, 11:42:45 PM7/23/08
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"HAPPYsamuri" <profst...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Jul 24, 10:05 am, "Tom" <dantPAYATTENTIONo...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> <thomas_a_bo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > Is there some other "Tom" in here (alt.clearing.avatar) that Happy has
>> > been talking to ?
>>
>> Probably lots. I'm the Tom who posts regularly to alt.magick, for
>> example.
>> Crossposting always leads to this sort of mix-up.
>
> Still not like the glory days of Corey's x posting [sorry to bring
> back bad memories]
>
> hope he's well in whatever parrallel universe he ended up in

Probably he's recovered from the gunshot wound, but I suspect he's still
behind bars. It's bad karma to attack a cop.

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