Photoreading
Paquito314
A while ago, I read mixed reviews form Paul Scheele's photoreading.
In fact, I even read that he is not the one who invented the system. This
article even claimed that Paul took a class from them and then stole the
material.
Does anyone have any success with Photoreading or the other system?
Miguel
MBBarney
I took the class about nine months ago. There were 15 - 20 people there.
About six of them were people who had taken the class before. Of those
six, about two said they had the ability to photoread. The other four
were taking the class again for free, trying to figure it out.
The rest of us were first-timers.
During the class, they used several techniques to convince people that
they could do it. Those 3-D pictures were posted on the walls, and we
were persuaded that if we could see those then we could photoread. We
were given a generic self-improvement book, told to photoread it, and then
when we didn't fail a simple multiple-choice quiz on the content of the
book we were told that we had successfully photoread.
As people announced their scores, I tracked them. I don't remember the
exact figures, but the class average score was only about ten percentage
points higher than random answers.
A small difference like ten points is easy to explain without anybody
photoreading, because almost everybody who goes to a seminar like this has
read lots of self-improvement books already. Just from general knowledge
of self-improvement topics.
We were told to photoread a dictionary. Afterwords, we were asked to
identify which quandrant of the page a certain word appeared on. (Top
half of left page, bottom of left page, top of right page, bottom of right
page.)
When people consistently didn't get the quadrants right, the instructor
started negotiating with us. "Well, at least you got it on the right
page." Or, "But you identified it as being on the top half of the page."
Most amazing was this: "Sometimes your brain will work backwards. It
will tell you that it's on the top right, and it's really on the bottom
left. So if it isn't where you thought, you sometimes need to do the
opposite of what you thought."
In other words, if you get it right, then you photoread. And if you get
it wrong, you still got it right!
At the end of the class, there was a little graduation ceremony in which
each person was asked to say what they planned to do with their new skill.
The statements were consistent: "I'm going to try to master this." "I'm
going to do the exercises and see if I can do this." Etc.
My impression was that virtually nobody thought they could Photoread.
I'm willing to believe that there is somebody somewhere who can photoread.
Heck, I'm willing to believe that there are lots of things people can do.
But from what I saw of the photoreading training, it's not an effective
way for you to master the skill.
I would not recommend it.
Paquito314
Thank you for your input. I know that the promise of being able to absorb
as much material as they claim seems tempting. And it is something I would
like to learn. I would be happy with 1/2 of what they promise.
Oh well, there must be something else that works.
Agian, thank you.
Anakin
In article <19970215154...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
paqui...@aol.com (Paquito314) wrote:
> Thank you for your input. I know that the promise of being able to absorb
> as much material as they claim seems tempting. And it is something I would
> like to learn. I would be happy with 1/2 of what they promise.
>
> Oh well, there must be something else that works.
> Agian, thank you.
Enough already. It time to take all accelerated learning at face value.
Remember the first time you learned one of those memorization tricks? You
know, where you use nonsensical imagery to łpeg˛ the things you are trying
to memorize to a previously memorized list. (For those of you who donąt
know what Iąm talking about, take a look łUse Your Perfect Memory˛ by Tony
Buzan or anything by Harry Loraine or Kevin Trudeau)
What happened? It was an easy trick to learn so you had instant
gratification. You were tickled that you no longer needed to write down
your shopping list. The problem was, you can only go so far with simple
tricks. Memorizing a shopping list doesnąt exactly make you a genius.
Eventually, you search for more complex, yet more promising fields of
accelerated learning techniques.
Thus, many of us were introduced to:
Hypnosis, NLP, photoreading, image streaming, etc
Now, Iąll admit, the theory behind many of these fields is tremendously
exciting. In fact, I was so engrossed in the theory, that I went out and
bought dozens of books on the above subjects. The theory itself gave me an
łintellectual high˛. So what happened when I tried applying the various
techniques? I got discouraged. I am more intelligent that the average
person, so I thought that this stuff would come easier to me than most
people. I thought Iąd nail down photoreading in a week. I thought Iąd be
image streaming in a day. When I couldnąt do it immediately, I moved on to
another book and sought another łintellectual high˛. But those łhighs˛
only sustain you for a while. Eventually you wonder whether all of this
thoery is real.
Photoreading isnąt simple. It is, however, easy for some people. Why?
Because somewhere along the way in their development, they łstumble upon
certain knacks˛. The are able to use their visual field in a more
productive way. They are able to visualize in great detail without trying.
They recognize preconscious cues without a lot of practice. Does this give
them an advantage? Yes, because photoreading requires a certain level of
these skills in order to work. Does it mean that those who have not
łstumbled upon those knacks˛ cannot learn photoreading? No, but it may
take longer. It may require taking a couple of steps back and working on
certain fundamental skills before proceeding into the actual task.
Oftentimes, the best approach to helping somebody who is having difficulty
in Calculus is to go back and strengthen their logic, algebra, and
trigonometry skills.
All accelerated learning requires an open mind. NLP says it best - the map
is not the territory. We are only interested in what works. A method that
works for one person, may not work for another. Does that invalidate the
skill they are trying to learn? No, because some people seem to be able to
learn it. Does that mean some people canąt learn the skill. No, it means
that you need to approach the subject from a different angle. It doesnąt
matter if your are talking about drawing, playing a musical instrument,
throwing a football, or photoreading. What we label łtalent˛ is nothing
more than the knack for approaching a skill the right way for the right
person.
Now, regarding Learning Strategies Corporation (of which I have no
affiliation). They must have recognized this fact and that is why once you
take the photoreading seminiar, you may take it again and again for free.
People who are motivated to learn the skill will learn it. Unfortunately,
many people łgive it a try˛ and then get discouraged when they find it is
more difficult than learning those memorization tricks.
łDo, or do not. There is no try˛ - Yoda in Empire Strikes Back
We are so caught up in instant gratification that it hinders our
development. Have you ever watched a child learning to walk or talk. Those
two skills are by far the hardest skills we ever had to learn. Had we gone
for instant gratification, we would have given up. Weąd all be parapalegic
mutes.
My suggestion is this. Call Learning Strategies Corporation (800-735-8273)
and talk to someone about your concerns. Tell them that you are absolutely
committed to learning how to photoread, but youąre afraid of wasting your
money. Ask them if they will offer you a guarantee that if you still canąt
grasp it even after repeating the seminars and consistent practice, you
will get your money back.
What do you have to lose? Itąs their reputation if they canąt get you to
succeed. But do yourself and the whole accelerated learning community a
favor. Donąt go into it half-assed. If youąre looking for instant
gratification, go play with those cute memorization techniques.
Matthew
ana...@dur.mindspring.com
Steven D. Walter
early Seventies. While I did not take the course because it was a little
too rich for my blood, a friend of mine did. He was also the first guy
on the block to wear Earth shoes (remember them?) and buy a water bed.
At any rate, it didn't seem to do much for his reading ability and
eventually the hype seemed to die a natural death. Until recently. It
seems I remember hearing Evelyn Wood commercials on the radio again.
Or to quote Woody Allen review of 'War and Peace' after finishing a
speed reading progam. "I think it was about Russia...."
--
SDW
And remember --
Women like silent men. They think they're listening. - Marcel Archard
zn...@teleport.com
Steven D. Walter <drwa...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
: Or to quote Woody Allen review of 'War and Peace' after finishing a
: speed reading progam. "I think it was about Russia...."
When I was an undergrad, there was an apocryphal story going around
about an English lit student who went to an Evelyn Woods program. He
gave the instructor a copy of 'Finnegan's Wake' to demonstrate on :-).
Hey, now there's a project for all you Milton/Meta Modelers out there --
an analysis of the language in 'Finnegan's Wake'.
--
zn...@teleport.com (M. Edward Borasky) http://www.teleport.com/~znmeb
If there's nothing to astrology, how come so many famous men were born
on holidays?
Eric Haddix
: MBBarney wrote:
: >
: > I took the class about nine months ago. There were 15 - 20 people there.
: > About six of them were people who had taken the class before. Of those
: > six, about two said they had the ability to photoread. The other four
: > were taking the class again for free, trying to figure it out.
: > My impression was that virtually nobody thought they could Photoread.
: >
: > I'm willing to believe that there is somebody somewhere who can photoread.
: > Heck, I'm willing to believe that there are lots of things people can do.
: > But from what I saw of the photoreading training, it's not an effective
: > way for you to master the skill.
: >
: > I would not recommend it.
Well, all that *I* did was get the PhotoReading "intro"(it's a weekend
intensive course so it's WAY shortened) tapes by Paul Scheely and then
after listening to them and trying out a few of the techniques, I bought
the book. This helped out tremendously...it added like 3 steps and
teaches you to the pattern for it. I can prolly top like 7,000 words a
min no problem..but that's cause I get interrupted quite a lot.. But I've
used it to my advantage...
BTW, if you have ever taken a course in school(prolly college) that's
called "Becoming a Master Student"(or maybe that was the name of the book
we had)..Photoreading is basically described there...Scan the
contents/index...pre-read the major headings, paragraphs, tables,
etc....then read...but it leaves out PhotoFocus...
I was wondering if when you took this course the instructor used
"chaining outcomes" from "Core Transformations"(Paul did on the tapes I
have). If not then I'd give that book a read first...it'll help out a lot.
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LSC Dana
Hi,
I just started working at Learning Strategies Corporation, the developer
of PhotoReading. I've been a customer, however, since 1988.
The first thing you must do is set yourself up for success with
PhotoReading (or the Paraliminal Tapes, or any other such endeavor). Here
is how not to do it (then I'll tell you how to do it):
Don't let that little voice in the back of your head (your conscious mind)
try to talk you out of it. Don't say, "This would have happened anyway,"
or "The increase is not significant" or blah blah. You are defeating the
process, and setting yourself up for non-success.
Instead, look for anything that could possibly indicate something is
happening. Attribute any small success to PhotoReading. Success breeds
success. Before you know it you will have larger and more profound
successes, and you will know beyond the shadow of a doubt that
PhotoReading works for you. It's like that old nursery tale, Peter and
the Dike, where the kid sees water dripping from the hole in a dike and
sticks his finger in it. You see, he had a choice: 1) stop the leak or
pass it off as just perspiration, or 2) let it flow and eventually the
whole ocean will come through.
PhotoReading is the same way. You can stick your finger in anything that
may happen which will stop anything further from happening, or you can dig
away at the hole which opens an ocean of possibilities. It is your choice.
One of the biggest challenges that we have as teachers of PhotoReading is
to help the student understand that indeed you have the capability to do
what we claim.
Does PhotoReading work?
Absolutely.
We just completed a US government study that studied brain blood flow and
the brain's EEG response to PhotoReading. It shows that PhotoReading
stimulates the brain's explicit memory (versus implicit memory which is
generally conscious-mind memory).
But more important than that are the thousands of successful PhotoReaders.
Just last week Pete Bissonette, President of Learning Strategies, was in
LA for an ultra PhotoReading challenge on TV. He was given 9 books and
4.5 hours to activate them--that's just 30 minutes per book. And then
they asked him questions, which he got all correct.
This is something that any PhotoReader can do. If you are a PhotoReader,
and you want to PhotoRead a book and activate it in 30 minutes, then call
me for assistance.
PhotoReading is not magic, by any stretch of the imagination, but the
results can be magical. But you have to be willing to hush the little
voice in the back of your head and do something that is significantly
different from regular reading.
Sincerely,
Dana Hanson
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Marvin Malfusto wrote:
> This finding is not significant, nor does it support the
> idea that Photoreading "works." Explicit memory consists of items that
> have been encoded through non-motor pathways,implicit memory is
> primarily motor-pathway memories. Reading of any kind activates
> explicit memory.
>
I find it odd that so many people (especially odd in this newsgroup)
have such a negative reaction to the thought of Photoreading that they
have chosen to single it out and attempt to denounce any possibility
that it may in fact work.
Since learning is a subjective phenomenon (input, processing, and recall
of data etc..) and we have only simple objective means of testing such
as comprehension tests, isn't the ultimate method of determining the
validity of any method in learning the end results generated by the
method?
Have we as a society become so complacent with our wonderous "publik
skool sistem" that we have decided to denounce those who wish to
discover new methods of accessing the power of the human brain?
Cliff
Marvin Malfusto
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In article <19970227204...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, lsc...@aol.com (LSC Dana) says:
>We just completed a US government study
There is no record of photoreading on any of the government
contract sites that provide funding for biological research.
The government data, CRISP "Computer Retrieval of Information on
Scientific Projects"(http://www.nih.gov/grants/ora/crisp.htm)
comes up with 0 entries regarding the term "Photoreading."
What government agency was it funded under?
>that studied brain blood flow and
>the brain's EEG response to PhotoReading. It shows that PhotoReading
>stimulates the brain's explicit memory (versus implicit memory which is
>generally conscious-mind memory).
This finding is not significant, nor does it support the
idea that Photoreading "works." Explicit memory consists of items that
have been encoded through non-motor pathways,implicit memory is
primarily motor-pathway memories. Reading of any kind activates
explicit memory.
Marvin
Anakin
> Have we as a society become so complacent with our wonderous "publik
> skool sistem" that we have decided to denounce those who wish to
> discover new methods of accessing the power of the human brain?
Those with axes to grind will continue to grind away without any regard to
anyone else's "reality".
Hey, did you hear the church finally accepted Copernicus' conclusions?
Given enough time, I guess just about everyone eventually comes around.
It's either that or start talking about closing the patent office again
because "Gee, everything's already been invented. I guess we've reached
the pinnacle of knowledge."
Matthew
Andrew Benjamin Ng
mmal...@shrinkydink.com (Marvin Malfusto) wrote:
>
http://www.subdyn.com/photored.html
go to the above to get an adverse view on photoreading.
LSC Dana
Hi,
The study on PhotoReading has not yet been released. I understand that it
is being released this week or next week. As soon as it is I shall post
information here so that any interested party may receive the report.
It shall speak for itself.
LSC Pete
About Subliminal Dynamics...
Back in 1985 Paul Scheele, co-founder of Learning Strategies Corporation,
was developing an accelerative reading program for a data processing unit
of American Express based on Paul's expertise in NLP, Accelerative
Learning, and Preconscious Processing.
Among the organizations Paul studied with was Subliminal Dynamics. I,
too. It was a fascinating class, and it presented techniques written
about in books for years. And, Richard Welch was certainly a charismatic
individual.
But there were major pieces missing in the program that Paul could
contribute based on his work--such as activation. We negotiated with them
to form a joint-venture of some sort, but they said no.
(I think part of it was that they could not substantiate or verify their
claims that foreign governments--as well as the CIA--offered them millions
of dollars to shelve the program, that a university conducted research on
the process, that the research papers were stolen by burglars, or that
Richard Welch invested a million dollars into research...and on and on.)
Now, onto the quote from Fred. F., that is listed on their website.
Inaccuracies of his statements aside, with tens of thousands of
PhotoReaders out there, there are bound to be some dissatisfied students.
People don't get it for a variety of reasons...which is why we offer a
money-back guarantee (Subliminal Dynamics doesn't). And, yes, Fred got a
refund. But let me say with pride, there are tens of thousands that have
harnessed the power of their inner minds through PhotoReading.
(By the way, I have a file of juicy Subliminal Dynamic "de-testimonials,"
but that's where they will stay.)
If I can provide any more information, please write or call.
Sincerely,
Pete Bissonette
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President
Learning Strategies Corporation
900 E Wayzata Blvd
Wayzata, MN 55391
612-476-9200
800-735-8273
FAX 612-475-2373
Jackie Patti
These criticisms - as if folks can't really do what they do.
Carmine taught me to photoread in June. He just went into the state
and showed me. I call it a "focused, relaxed" state. It is, but it
is a specific focused, relaxed state. He talked to me about it for
about 10-15 minutes, and I had it. And it's been damned useful.
Previously, during a phone conversation, he installed a powerful
learning strategy - a strategy that allowed me to learn something, in
it's entirety, simply by reading it - that I could learn as fast as I
could read. Let me tell you, when you combine the ability to learn as
fast as you can read with the ability to read incredibly faster - it's
powerful stuff.
I had already been brilliant - no doubt about that one. And yet, I
learn orders of magnitude faster than I used to. If you don't believe
me, go read my posts from the last year from Deja News. I've grown a
few decades worth in a year - and these skills ahd a LOT to do with
taking me there.
Similarly, when I wanted to learn to lucid dream - I went out and read
everything on the net about it - visited scores of Web sites,
photoread the lucid dreams newsgroup - heard about hundreds of
techniques. And I went to bed and asked my unconscious to dream about
it, and find the way that was best for me. And the next night, I went
to bed and asked my unconscious to do it - and I did. And wow, it was
c00l!!!
Friend of mine does healing touch. She tried to teach me for a year.
I read books, did exercises. And I just couldn't get it. And then
one day, after my first NLP training, I just went into a trance and
watched her and learned it. And I can turn it on anytime now. Here's
a c00l metaphor about it, sorta a Quentinese Tomato Patch metaphor: I
had some mums that had died. And I almost threw them out. And then I
thought I'd try an experiment, so I snipped off all the dried dead
bits, watered it thoroughly and did a couple minutes of healing touch.
I did this 2-3 times a week for a few weeks, every time I did it there
was more new growth. My roommate says I have a green thumb, all I can
tell you was I never had one before! I could kill perfectly healthy
plants, now, instead, I am watching a dead plant come back to life -
there is new growth daily. Powerful stuff, and a wonderful metaphor
for me, now, as I am building an entirely new and exciting life.
These skills - they're just states, people. Sometimes you can just
step into them and have them, other times you might have to try a
bunch of things before you find out how to get there. But once you
get there, well... you're there, and you have it, and no one can ever
take it away from you.
That you may have tried and not gotten there doesn't mean it's not
real. And it doesn't mean you can't get there. It just means you
haven't quite figured out how yet.
If worse comes to worse, you can always just sit down with someone who
CAN do it, go into a profound trance and watch them, and wake up with
the skill.
--
Jackie Patti
Jac...@cris.com
http://www.instatek.com
(770) 552-1397
Atlanta, GA
GEMMAMP1
Hi Dana,
Dana wrote:
>The study on PhotoReading has not yet been released. I understand that
it
>is being released this week or next week. As soon as it is I shall post
>information here so that any interested party may receive the report.
Is this study being published somewhere? If so, where? I'd love to see
it. I did Photoreading in 1993 with Michele Carrier in NYC and I highly
recommend the course and Michele, who is an excellent instructor, for
those of you who live in the NYC area.
***************************************************
Monica Pignotti, the Skeptic's Skeptic