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M Winther
May 29, 2012, 6:34:39 AM5/29/12
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"The ideology of sameness & pre-adolescent wholeness"
The current homologous trend (gender theory, internationalism,
multiculturalism, and different kinds of relativism) serves to thwart
individuation. Individuation demands that you define yourself
vis-a-vis the world, and that you destroy the illusion of sameness.
Pre-adolescent kids retain a form of primary wholeness, which is
shattered when they enter the adult world of opposites. The current
"ideology of sameness" aims at retaining pre-adolescent wholeness,
keeping people constrained in an unconscious childish worldview where
opposites have only begun to form. That's why they always say that
there are no differences between the sexes, the races, etc., and that
we are one great big family. According to the ideology of sameness
male and female gender and sexuality are constructed. Hence the sexes
aren't essentially different. Psychologists know, of course, that
there are enormous differences between autistic, psychopathic,
narcissistic people, and people who have undergone individuation - so
it is a big lie, as all ideologies.
The problem with the ideology of sameness, heavily practiced in
certain European countries, is that politics becomes infantile and
unrelated to the hard facts of reality. This idea, of retaining
pre-adolescent wholeness, is also practiced in the Eastern monastic
tradition, in which young boys are recruited, to lead a life of prayer
and meditation in a childish wholeness-condition. Tibetan monks are
among the naivest people in the world. In this tradition it works very
well, because they withdraw from the world. However, when such
infantile unindividuated people involve themselves with the world, the
result is disastrous. The world is a Kindergarten to them, ruled over
by Mama.
In the debate, special regard is given to homosexuals, whether it is a
wholly normal variant (the "same" as everybody else) or whether it's
pathological. The interesting thing about this notion, of retaining
pre-adolescent wholeness, is that homosexuality could be analyzed as a
means of maintaining contact with the spiritual wholeness of childhood
via certain individuals. Historically, priests and shamans were often
recruited among homosexuals, as was often the case among North
American Indians (berdache). It could mean that nature furnishes
mankind with this solution to the spiritual problem. A favourite film
among homosexuals is "The Wizard of Oz", which finely represents the
primary form of wholeness, which all adults long to return to. Such
people, who remain there, can invent stories, and keep the tribe
posted about this world which they have left behind.
Mats Winther
http://home7.swipnet.se/~w-73784/
The current homologous trend (gender theory, internationalism,
multiculturalism, and different kinds of relativism) serves to thwart
individuation. Individuation demands that you define yourself
vis-a-vis the world, and that you destroy the illusion of sameness.
Pre-adolescent kids retain a form of primary wholeness, which is
shattered when they enter the adult world of opposites. The current
"ideology of sameness" aims at retaining pre-adolescent wholeness,
keeping people constrained in an unconscious childish worldview where
opposites have only begun to form. That's why they always say that
there are no differences between the sexes, the races, etc., and that
we are one great big family. According to the ideology of sameness
male and female gender and sexuality are constructed. Hence the sexes
aren't essentially different. Psychologists know, of course, that
there are enormous differences between autistic, psychopathic,
narcissistic people, and people who have undergone individuation - so
it is a big lie, as all ideologies.
The problem with the ideology of sameness, heavily practiced in
certain European countries, is that politics becomes infantile and
unrelated to the hard facts of reality. This idea, of retaining
pre-adolescent wholeness, is also practiced in the Eastern monastic
tradition, in which young boys are recruited, to lead a life of prayer
and meditation in a childish wholeness-condition. Tibetan monks are
among the naivest people in the world. In this tradition it works very
well, because they withdraw from the world. However, when such
infantile unindividuated people involve themselves with the world, the
result is disastrous. The world is a Kindergarten to them, ruled over
by Mama.
In the debate, special regard is given to homosexuals, whether it is a
wholly normal variant (the "same" as everybody else) or whether it's
pathological. The interesting thing about this notion, of retaining
pre-adolescent wholeness, is that homosexuality could be analyzed as a
means of maintaining contact with the spiritual wholeness of childhood
via certain individuals. Historically, priests and shamans were often
recruited among homosexuals, as was often the case among North
American Indians (berdache). It could mean that nature furnishes
mankind with this solution to the spiritual problem. A favourite film
among homosexuals is "The Wizard of Oz", which finely represents the
primary form of wholeness, which all adults long to return to. Such
people, who remain there, can invent stories, and keep the tribe
posted about this world which they have left behind.
Mats Winther
http://home7.swipnet.se/~w-73784/
M Winther
May 30, 2012, 1:19:35 AM5/30/12
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"Lance" <lanc...@gmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:1a854c80-5dae-4114...@q2g2000vbv.googlegroups.com...
>> Mats Wintherhttp:>home7.swipnet.se/~w-73784/
>females, or any other groups of people. Sameness and difference will
>depend on which aspects you choose to compare.
>
>Those who start off saying that males and females are different often
>have an ideology in mind too - one that says that females are not as
>able as males, and should stay barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen.
>Oddly enough the last few decades have indeed shown that females are
>different from males in the work place - they are better. They are
>doing better than men at school and at university, they are proving
>to
>be better managers, perhaps they will even prove to be better
>soldiers.
>
>Lance
>
>
In that case the "ideology of sameness" is a false facade, then. The
underlying rationale is that women are superior to men, and that
Blacks are superior to Whites. These ideologies, such as feminism and
multiculturism, are covert ideologies of hatred. In Sweden, women also
get higher grades at school. However, we also have diagnostic tests,
at all levels of education, issued by the authorities. Men
consistently get a better result in these tests. So we know that women
get too high grades compared with men. White men consistently do
better than black men in tests, including IQ tests. So we know that
the current ideology is a false facade that hides a destructive
racialist motif. These hypocrites destroy the lives of white men,
giving them too low grades, thus shutting them out from education and
good working places. These positions in society are instead occupied
by inferior people. In senior high, my teacher in psychology and
philosophy gave me zero points at the tests. I got zero points for
every question that I had in fact answered correctly. According to
modern post-structuralist ideology it is wholly acceptable to treat a
white man in this appalling way, although it is really an infringment
of his rights, an extremely destructive attitude. This shut me out
from the psychology study programme at the university.
M. Winther
news:1a854c80-5dae-4114...@q2g2000vbv.googlegroups.com...
>
>Mats wrote:
>
>"That's why they always say that there are no differences between the
>sexes, the races, etc., and that we are one great big family.
>According to the ideology of sameness male and female gender and
>sexuality are constructed. Hence the sexes aren't essentially
>different."
>
>There are many dimensions or aspects on which to compare males and
>Mats wrote:
>
>"That's why they always say that there are no differences between the
>sexes, the races, etc., and that we are one great big family.
>According to the ideology of sameness male and female gender and
>sexuality are constructed. Hence the sexes aren't essentially
>different."
>
>females, or any other groups of people. Sameness and difference will
>depend on which aspects you choose to compare.
>
>Those who start off saying that males and females are different often
>have an ideology in mind too - one that says that females are not as
>able as males, and should stay barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen.
>Oddly enough the last few decades have indeed shown that females are
>different from males in the work place - they are better. They are
>doing better than men at school and at university, they are proving
>to
>be better managers, perhaps they will even prove to be better
>soldiers.
>
>Lance
>
>
In that case the "ideology of sameness" is a false facade, then. The
underlying rationale is that women are superior to men, and that
Blacks are superior to Whites. These ideologies, such as feminism and
multiculturism, are covert ideologies of hatred. In Sweden, women also
get higher grades at school. However, we also have diagnostic tests,
at all levels of education, issued by the authorities. Men
consistently get a better result in these tests. So we know that women
get too high grades compared with men. White men consistently do
better than black men in tests, including IQ tests. So we know that
the current ideology is a false facade that hides a destructive
racialist motif. These hypocrites destroy the lives of white men,
giving them too low grades, thus shutting them out from education and
good working places. These positions in society are instead occupied
by inferior people. In senior high, my teacher in psychology and
philosophy gave me zero points at the tests. I got zero points for
every question that I had in fact answered correctly. According to
modern post-structuralist ideology it is wholly acceptable to treat a
white man in this appalling way, although it is really an infringment
of his rights, an extremely destructive attitude. This shut me out
from the psychology study programme at the university.
M. Winther
Andy Wainwright
May 30, 2012, 2:31:37 PM5/30/12
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On 29/05/2012 11:34, M Winther wrote:
> "The ideology of sameness& pre-adolescent wholeness"
You talk about IQ, but misunderstand the concept. That isn't your fault
as such because the term is highly misleading.
The correct term for IQ tests is symbolic reasoning. SR measures the
ability to deduce logical conclusions from the symbols (such as words,
numbers and diagrams) the candidate is given. For the record, my IQ is 160.
But when it comes to intelligence, even when leaving out brain aspects
which could partly be described as physical, such as manual dexterity,
what is measured by IQ is only around a fifth of intellectual function.
The other parts include mental stability, the ability to maintain
rational thought under high real-world pressure. I fail at this one.
Another is social ability- the ability to understand and fit in to any
particular peer group without serious difficulties. I have Asperger's
syndrome, which means that I fail at this one too.
Then we have metaphysical intelligence. This ranges from "animal" at the
lower end to "avatar" at the higher. The animal end seeks material
wealth, social status i.e. dominance and sexual conquest/a strong desire
to pass on genes. The avatar end seeks purely peace of mind on both a
personal and social level. Passion still exists, but this is directed
towards "pure love", either non sexual or highly intimate as opposed to
reproductive, and applied to social issues may be directed towards
justice and poverty relief. Due to your observations on the likes of sex
and race, I'd be inclined to suggest you fail at this one.
The skill of emphathy uses both of the above two facets of intelligence.
The final one (there may well be more) is creativity- the ability to
imagine and fantasise and transform that into real world art, design and
craft. I do quite well on this one myself- your interest as expressed on
your website in traditional board games show that likewise, you are not
lacking in this facet.
Whilst experience and learning about the real world, politics, and
psychology has shifted my political outlook from the naive idealism of
Marxism towards a generally Liberatarian worldview, something I have not
discarded - that has been reinforced in fact -is the general equality of
the human population.
Some people work harder (or their parents did) , take greater yet more
informed risks, and have more marketable skills, and their income should
reflect that. But a soul is a soul- to quote the character of Shylock in
Shakespeare - If you cut me, do I not bleed? So valuable is the soul
that all the money and technology in the world cannot create one, and we
only have one each.
It is humility that makes humanity, and it is this that I regard as the
most relavent measure of human worth. If there exists a difference
between human beings that is truly relavent, it is in maturity, a the
most mature are the most humble.
> "The ideology of sameness& pre-adolescent wholeness"
as such because the term is highly misleading.
The correct term for IQ tests is symbolic reasoning. SR measures the
ability to deduce logical conclusions from the symbols (such as words,
numbers and diagrams) the candidate is given. For the record, my IQ is 160.
But when it comes to intelligence, even when leaving out brain aspects
which could partly be described as physical, such as manual dexterity,
what is measured by IQ is only around a fifth of intellectual function.
The other parts include mental stability, the ability to maintain
rational thought under high real-world pressure. I fail at this one.
Another is social ability- the ability to understand and fit in to any
particular peer group without serious difficulties. I have Asperger's
syndrome, which means that I fail at this one too.
Then we have metaphysical intelligence. This ranges from "animal" at the
lower end to "avatar" at the higher. The animal end seeks material
wealth, social status i.e. dominance and sexual conquest/a strong desire
to pass on genes. The avatar end seeks purely peace of mind on both a
personal and social level. Passion still exists, but this is directed
towards "pure love", either non sexual or highly intimate as opposed to
reproductive, and applied to social issues may be directed towards
justice and poverty relief. Due to your observations on the likes of sex
and race, I'd be inclined to suggest you fail at this one.
The skill of emphathy uses both of the above two facets of intelligence.
The final one (there may well be more) is creativity- the ability to
imagine and fantasise and transform that into real world art, design and
craft. I do quite well on this one myself- your interest as expressed on
your website in traditional board games show that likewise, you are not
lacking in this facet.
Whilst experience and learning about the real world, politics, and
psychology has shifted my political outlook from the naive idealism of
Marxism towards a generally Liberatarian worldview, something I have not
discarded - that has been reinforced in fact -is the general equality of
the human population.
Some people work harder (or their parents did) , take greater yet more
informed risks, and have more marketable skills, and their income should
reflect that. But a soul is a soul- to quote the character of Shylock in
Shakespeare - If you cut me, do I not bleed? So valuable is the soul
that all the money and technology in the world cannot create one, and we
only have one each.
It is humility that makes humanity, and it is this that I regard as the
most relavent measure of human worth. If there exists a difference
between human beings that is truly relavent, it is in maturity, a the
most mature are the most humble.
M Winther
May 31, 2012, 2:02:23 AM5/31/12
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"Andy Wainwright" <andrewricha...@hotmail.co.uk> skrev i
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I know, of course, that IQ tests don't measure skill in sports or
artistic ability. But this only means that there are even more
variables that make us different, which underpins my standpoint. You
use the word "maturity", which is essentially the same as an
individuated individual. I point out that individuation is essential
to the survival of our civilisation. The ideology of sameness impedes
individuation, keeping people locked up in the Kindergarten of
uniformity.
Mats Winther
http://home7.swipnet.se/~w-73784/
meddelandet news:jq5p3h$7r8$1...@dont-email.me...
artistic ability. But this only means that there are even more
variables that make us different, which underpins my standpoint. You
use the word "maturity", which is essentially the same as an
individuated individual. I point out that individuation is essential
to the survival of our civilisation. The ideology of sameness impedes
individuation, keeping people locked up in the Kindergarten of
uniformity.
Mats Winther
http://home7.swipnet.se/~w-73784/
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