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pyotr filipivich
May 14, 2018, 11:27:59 PM5/14/18
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Locally, here north of Seattle, we are having Very Hot Weather. At
least for us. Up into the 80s.
Got home this afternoon, restarted computer (it had gotten shut
down this morning - "wrong" batch file.) Got the "amber screen of
death" - yeah, I dunno either. BSOD, and the new GSOD - but this was
new. Couldn't reach New.west.earthlink.net. Rebooted.
No {random color}SOD. rah. Download headers, and then the bodies
on watch list. Then try to grab a few more bodies and send the
responses. Nope - can't reach the server. Have lunch, turn on fan,
get s few things done in the yard, come back - alles good.
I dunno - I just blame the heat.|
Also, there hasn't been anything posted here fro months. And of
course, the website is less than helpful.
Have fun, keep the shiney side up.
pyotr
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"And Art is art, and east is east and west is west, and if
you take rhubarb and stew it like prunes, it will taste more
like raspberries than cauliflower.
Now you tell me what you know." Groucho Marx
least for us. Up into the 80s.
Got home this afternoon, restarted computer (it had gotten shut
down this morning - "wrong" batch file.) Got the "amber screen of
death" - yeah, I dunno either. BSOD, and the new GSOD - but this was
new. Couldn't reach New.west.earthlink.net. Rebooted.
No {random color}SOD. rah. Download headers, and then the bodies
on watch list. Then try to grab a few more bodies and send the
responses. Nope - can't reach the server. Have lunch, turn on fan,
get s few things done in the yard, come back - alles good.
I dunno - I just blame the heat.|
Also, there hasn't been anything posted here fro months. And of
course, the website is less than helpful.
Have fun, keep the shiney side up.
pyotr
--
pyotr filipivich
"And Art is art, and east is east and west is west, and if
you take rhubarb and stew it like prunes, it will taste more
like raspberries than cauliflower.
Now you tell me what you know." Groucho Marx
Ant
May 15, 2018, 3:16:55 PM5/15/18
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Yea, I couldn't connect to these since yesterday:
nntp.earthlink.net
news.west.earthlink.net
news.east.earthlink.net
However, earthlink.us.supernews.com worked. I wonder what's going on. Is
ELN trying to dump its NNTP service? Better keep its 216.168.4.170
address just in case! :(
pyotr filipivich <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Locally, here north of Seattle, we are having Very Hot Weather. At
> least for us. Up into the 80s.
> Got home this afternoon, restarted computer (it had gotten shut
> down this morning - "wrong" batch file.) Got the "amber screen of
> death" - yeah, I dunno either. BSOD, and the new GSOD - but this was
> new. Couldn't reach New.west.earthlink.net. Rebooted.
> No {random color}SOD. rah. Download headers, and then the bodies
> on watch list. Then try to grab a few more bodies and send the
> responses. Nope - can't reach the server. Have lunch, turn on fan,
> get s few things done in the yard, come back - alles good.
> I dunno - I just blame the heat.|
> Also, there hasn't been anything posted here fro months. And of
> course, the website is less than helpful.
> Have fun, keep the shiney side up.
> pyotr
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nntp.earthlink.net
news.west.earthlink.net
news.east.earthlink.net
However, earthlink.us.supernews.com worked. I wonder what's going on. Is
ELN trying to dump its NNTP service? Better keep its 216.168.4.170
address just in case! :(
pyotr filipivich <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Locally, here north of Seattle, we are having Very Hot Weather. At
> least for us. Up into the 80s.
> Got home this afternoon, restarted computer (it had gotten shut
> down this morning - "wrong" batch file.) Got the "amber screen of
> death" - yeah, I dunno either. BSOD, and the new GSOD - but this was
> new. Couldn't reach New.west.earthlink.net. Rebooted.
> No {random color}SOD. rah. Download headers, and then the bodies
> on watch list. Then try to grab a few more bodies and send the
> responses. Nope - can't reach the server. Have lunch, turn on fan,
> get s few things done in the yard, come back - alles good.
> I dunno - I just blame the heat.|
> Also, there hasn't been anything posted here fro months. And of
> course, the website is less than helpful.
> Have fun, keep the shiney side up.
> pyotr
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pyot...@gmail.com
May 18, 2018, 12:31:03 PM5/18/18
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On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 12:16:55 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
> Yea, I couldn't connect to these since yesterday:
> nntp.earthlink.net
> news.west.earthlink.net
> news.east.earthlink.net
>
> However, earthlink.us.supernews.com worked. I wonder what's going on. Is
> ELN trying to dump its NNTP service? Better keep its 216.168.4.170
> address just in case! :(
>
Yoicks.
> Yea, I couldn't connect to these since yesterday:
> nntp.earthlink.net
> news.west.earthlink.net
> news.east.earthlink.net
>
> However, earthlink.us.supernews.com worked. I wonder what's going on. Is
> ELN trying to dump its NNTP service? Better keep its 216.168.4.170
> address just in case! :(
>
I was able to get to tech support on May 17th "Tech support is working
on it". Okay.
But still nothing as of this morning.
David Schultz
May 18, 2018, 2:49:59 PM5/18/18
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On 05/18/2018 11:31 AM, pyot...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 12:16:55 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
>> Yea, I couldn't connect to these since yesterday:
>> nntp.earthlink.net
>> news.west.earthlink.net
>> news.east.earthlink.net
I use news.west.earthlink.net and have had no trouble.
> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 12:16:55 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
>> Yea, I couldn't connect to these since yesterday:
>> nntp.earthlink.net
>> news.west.earthlink.net
>> news.east.earthlink.net
What is the nature of the failure? Can't get an address? No route?
I did have some trouble a while back which turned out to be the result
of a change in the monthly data limit. For some reason they started
resetting the counter on the 16th of the month rather than the 1st.
I contacted customer service and never got an answer from them. I had to
start recording my usage to figure it out. I also discovered the answer
to another question I had asked: when does the approaching data limit
email get sent? It turns out that happens at about 25GB.
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http://home.earthlink.net/~david.schultz
pyot...@gmail.com
May 18, 2018, 5:50:21 PM5/18/18
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On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 11:49:59 AM UTC-7, David Schultz wrote:
> On 05/18/2018 11:31 AM, pyot...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 12:16:55 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
> >> Yea, I couldn't connect to these since yesterday:
> >> nntp.earthlink.net
> >> news.west.earthlink.net
> >> news.east.earthlink.net
>
> I use news.west.earthlink.net and have had no trouble.
>
> What is the nature of the failure? Can't get an address? No route?
I'm using forte Agent to connect
> On 05/18/2018 11:31 AM, pyot...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 12:16:55 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
> >> Yea, I couldn't connect to these since yesterday:
> >> nntp.earthlink.net
> >> news.west.earthlink.net
> >> news.east.earthlink.net
>
> I use news.west.earthlink.net and have had no trouble.
>
> What is the nature of the failure? Can't get an address? No route?
"Unable to find address of server news.west.earthlink.net"
Which is weird, because an hour ago, using an XP laptop at the Y
I was able to post two messages.
Why I can't connect via the computer at home, I do not know.
David Schultz
May 18, 2018, 5:54:46 PM5/18/18
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On 05/18/2018 04:50 PM, pyot...@gmail.com wrote:
> I'm using forte Agent to connect
>
> "Unable to find address of server news.west.earthlink.net"
>
> Which is weird, because an hour ago, using an XP laptop at the Y
> I was able to post two messages.
>
> Why I can't connect via the computer at home, I do not know.
>
>
It sounds like a DNS problem. I disabled the automatic DNS lookup on my
> I'm using forte Agent to connect
>
> "Unable to find address of server news.west.earthlink.net"
>
> Which is weird, because an hour ago, using an XP laptop at the Y
> I was able to post two messages.
>
> Why I can't connect via the computer at home, I do not know.
>
>
DSL modem/router and setup static IPs. The first is Google at 8.8.8.8
and the second is an Earthlink DNS.
Perhaps that is why it is working for me.
pyotr filipivich
May 18, 2018, 6:57:37 PM5/18/18
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ANT...@zimage.com (Ant) on Tue, 15 May 2018 14:16:50 -0500 typed in
alt.provider.earthlink the following:
everything.
Many thanks
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?
alt.provider.earthlink the following:
>Yea, I couldn't connect to these since yesterday:
>nntp.earthlink.net
>news.west.earthlink.net
>news.east.earthlink.net
>
>However, earthlink.us.supernews.com worked. I wonder what's going on. Is
>ELN trying to dump its NNTP service? Better keep its 216.168.4.170
>address just in case! :(
I did., used that instead of news.west.earth.... and downloaded
>nntp.earthlink.net
>news.west.earthlink.net
>news.east.earthlink.net
>
>However, earthlink.us.supernews.com worked. I wonder what's going on. Is
>ELN trying to dump its NNTP service? Better keep its 216.168.4.170
>address just in case! :(
everything.
Many thanks
>
>
>pyotr filipivich <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> Locally, here north of Seattle, we are having Very Hot Weather. At
>> least for us. Up into the 80s.
>> Got home this afternoon, restarted computer (it had gotten shut
>> down this morning - "wrong" batch file.) Got the "amber screen of
>> death" - yeah, I dunno either. BSOD, and the new GSOD - but this was
>> new. Couldn't reach New.west.earthlink.net. Rebooted.
>> No {random color}SOD. rah. Download headers, and then the bodies
>> on watch list. Then try to grab a few more bodies and send the
>> responses. Nope - can't reach the server. Have lunch, turn on fan,
>> get s few things done in the yard, come back - alles good.
>> I dunno - I just blame the heat.|
>
>> Also, there hasn't been anything posted here fro months. And of
>> course, the website is less than helpful.
>
>> Have fun, keep the shiney side up.
>
>> pyotr
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>
>pyotr filipivich <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> Locally, here north of Seattle, we are having Very Hot Weather. At
>> least for us. Up into the 80s.
>> Got home this afternoon, restarted computer (it had gotten shut
>> down this morning - "wrong" batch file.) Got the "amber screen of
>> death" - yeah, I dunno either. BSOD, and the new GSOD - but this was
>> new. Couldn't reach New.west.earthlink.net. Rebooted.
>> No {random color}SOD. rah. Download headers, and then the bodies
>> on watch list. Then try to grab a few more bodies and send the
>> responses. Nope - can't reach the server. Have lunch, turn on fan,
>> get s few things done in the yard, come back - alles good.
>> I dunno - I just blame the heat.|
>
>> Also, there hasn't been anything posted here fro months. And of
>> course, the website is less than helpful.
>
>> Have fun, keep the shiney side up.
>
>> pyotr
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pyotr filipivich
May 18, 2018, 6:57:37 PM5/18/18
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David Schultz <ab...@127.0.0.1> on Fri, 18 May 2018 16:54:40 -0500
Works fine. Why? I don't know, he's on third, and I don't give a
darn!
typed in alt.provider.earthlink the following:
>On 05/18/2018 04:50 PM, pyot...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I'm using forte Agent to connect
>>
>> "Unable to find address of server news.west.earthlink.net"
>>
>> Which is weird, because an hour ago, using an XP laptop at the Y
>> I was able to post two messages.
>>
>> Why I can't connect via the computer at home, I do not know.
>>
>It sounds like a DNS problem. I disabled the automatic DNS lookup on my
>DSL modem/router and setup static IPs. The first is Google at 8.8.8.8
>and the second is an Earthlink DNS.
>
>Perhaps that is why it is working for me.
I just entered this address: 216.168.4.170
>> I'm using forte Agent to connect
>>
>> "Unable to find address of server news.west.earthlink.net"
>>
>> Which is weird, because an hour ago, using an XP laptop at the Y
>> I was able to post two messages.
>>
>> Why I can't connect via the computer at home, I do not know.
>>
>It sounds like a DNS problem. I disabled the automatic DNS lookup on my
>DSL modem/router and setup static IPs. The first is Google at 8.8.8.8
>and the second is an Earthlink DNS.
>
>Perhaps that is why it is working for me.
Works fine. Why? I don't know, he's on third, and I don't give a
darn!
Ant
May 18, 2018, 6:57:48 PM5/18/18
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Ant
May 18, 2018, 6:58:28 PM5/18/18
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David Schultz <ab...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> On 05/18/2018 11:31 AM, pyot...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 12:16:55 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
> >> Yea, I couldn't connect to these since yesterday:
> >> nntp.earthlink.net
> >> news.west.earthlink.net
> >> news.east.earthlink.net
> I use news.west.earthlink.net and have had no trouble.
> What is the nature of the failure? Can't get an address? No route?
$ ping nntp.earthlink.net
> On 05/18/2018 11:31 AM, pyot...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 12:16:55 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
> >> Yea, I couldn't connect to these since yesterday:
> >> nntp.earthlink.net
> >> news.west.earthlink.net
> >> news.east.earthlink.net
> I use news.west.earthlink.net and have had no trouble.
> What is the nature of the failure? Can't get an address? No route?
ping: nntp.earthlink.net: No address associated with hostname
Ant
May 18, 2018, 6:59:26 PM5/18/18
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pyotr filipivich <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> ANT...@zimage.com (Ant) on Tue, 15 May 2018 14:16:50 -0500 typed in
> alt.provider.earthlink the following:
> >Yea, I couldn't connect to these since yesterday:
> >nntp.earthlink.net
> >news.west.earthlink.net
> >news.east.earthlink.net
> >
> >However, earthlink.us.supernews.com worked. I wonder what's going on. Is
> >ELN trying to dump its NNTP service? Better keep its 216.168.4.170
> >address just in case! :(
> I did., used that instead of news.west.earth.... and downloaded
> everything.
> Many thanks
You're welcome. ;)
> ANT...@zimage.com (Ant) on Tue, 15 May 2018 14:16:50 -0500 typed in
> alt.provider.earthlink the following:
> >Yea, I couldn't connect to these since yesterday:
> >nntp.earthlink.net
> >news.west.earthlink.net
> >news.east.earthlink.net
> >
> >However, earthlink.us.supernews.com worked. I wonder what's going on. Is
> >ELN trying to dump its NNTP service? Better keep its 216.168.4.170
> >address just in case! :(
> I did., used that instead of news.west.earth.... and downloaded
> everything.
> Many thanks
Andy
Jun 1, 2018, 4:13:10 AM6/1/18
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My news access from earthlink has not worked from 5/15/18 until to day
6/1/2018
Repeated chats with tech support say its on our end its nation wide but no
ETA on a fix etc.
ill have to save the other earthlink address for next time:)
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6/1/2018
Repeated chats with tech support say its on our end its nation wide but no
ETA on a fix etc.
ill have to save the other earthlink address for next time:)
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Andy
Jun 1, 2018, 4:14:22 AM6/1/18
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I went over that limit once on purpose never got a warning email from them.
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pyotr filipivich
Jun 1, 2018, 12:14:58 PM6/1/18
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"Andy" <N...@n.com> on Fri, 1 Jun 2018 04:12:19 -0400 typed in
alt.provider.earthlink the following:
the bat.
Weirdness.
alt.provider.earthlink the following:
>My news access from earthlink has not worked from 5/15/18 until to day
>6/1/2018
>Repeated chats with tech support say its on our end its nation wide but no
>ETA on a fix etc.
>ill have to save the other earthlink address for next time:)
Do that, I switched to that address - it started working right off
>6/1/2018
>Repeated chats with tech support say its on our end its nation wide but no
>ETA on a fix etc.
>ill have to save the other earthlink address for next time:)
the bat.
Weirdness.
Ant
Jun 1, 2018, 11:59:28 PM6/1/18
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pyotr filipivich <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> "Andy" <N...@n.com> on Fri, 1 Jun 2018 04:12:19 -0400 typed in
> alt.provider.earthlink the following:
> >My news access from earthlink has not worked from 5/15/18 until to day
> >6/1/2018
> >Repeated chats with tech support say its on our end its nation wide but no
> >ETA on a fix etc.
> >ill have to save the other earthlink address for next time:)
> Do that, I switched to that address - it started working right off
> the bat.
> Weirdness.
The old addresses seem to be working now for me, but I will keep the new one.
> "Andy" <N...@n.com> on Fri, 1 Jun 2018 04:12:19 -0400 typed in
> alt.provider.earthlink the following:
> >My news access from earthlink has not worked from 5/15/18 until to day
> >6/1/2018
> >Repeated chats with tech support say its on our end its nation wide but no
> >ETA on a fix etc.
> >ill have to save the other earthlink address for next time:)
> Do that, I switched to that address - it started working right off
> the bat.
> Weirdness.
;)
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pyotr filipivich
Jun 2, 2021, 3:51:20 PM6/2/21
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pyotr filipivich <ph...@mindspring.com> on Fri, 18 May 2018 15:59:40
-0700 typed in alt.provider.earthlink the following:
earthlink.us.supernews.com
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May 29, 2018, 6:35:46 PM
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On 05/18/2018 02:59 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
> Never mind - Earth link news is back offline again. And it can't be
> the heat.
>
It is a problem with the Earthlink DNS system. Compare doing a lookup
using the Google DNS:
$ host news.west.earthlink.net 8.8.8.8
Using domain server:
Name: 8.8.8.8
Address: 8.8.8.8#53
Aliases:
news.west.earthlink.net is an alias for nntp.earthlink.net.
nntp.earthlink.net is an alias for earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net.
earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net is an alias for
earthlink.us.supernews.com.
earthlink.us.supernews.com has address 216.168.4.170
To one using the Earthlink DNS:
$ host news.west.earthlink.net 207.69.188.186
Using domain server:
Name: 207.69.188.186
Address: 207.69.188.186#53
Aliases:
Host news.west.earthlink.net not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
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-0700 typed in alt.provider.earthlink the following:
>David Schultz <ab...@127.0.0.1> on Fri, 18 May 2018 16:54:40 -0500
>typed in alt.provider.earthlink the following:
>>On 05/18/2018 04:50 PM, pyot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I'm using forte Agent to connect
>>>
>>> "Unable to find address of server news.west.earthlink.net"
>>>
>>> Which is weird, because an hour ago, using an XP laptop at the Y
>>> I was able to post two messages.
>>>
>>> Why I can't connect via the computer at home, I do not know.
>>>
>>It sounds like a DNS problem. I disabled the automatic DNS lookup on my
>>DSL modem/router and setup static IPs. The first is Google at 8.8.8.8
>>and the second is an Earthlink DNS.
>>
>>Perhaps that is why it is working for me.
>
> I just entered this address: 216.168.4.170
New.west.earthlink.net
>typed in alt.provider.earthlink the following:
>>On 05/18/2018 04:50 PM, pyot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I'm using forte Agent to connect
>>>
>>> "Unable to find address of server news.west.earthlink.net"
>>>
>>> Which is weird, because an hour ago, using an XP laptop at the Y
>>> I was able to post two messages.
>>>
>>> Why I can't connect via the computer at home, I do not know.
>>>
>>It sounds like a DNS problem. I disabled the automatic DNS lookup on my
>>DSL modem/router and setup static IPs. The first is Google at 8.8.8.8
>>and the second is an Earthlink DNS.
>>
>>Perhaps that is why it is working for me.
>
> I just entered this address: 216.168.4.170
earthlink.us.supernews.com
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May 29, 2018, 6:35:46 PM
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On 05/18/2018 02:59 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
> Never mind - Earth link news is back offline again. And it can't be
> the heat.
>
It is a problem with the Earthlink DNS system. Compare doing a lookup
using the Google DNS:
$ host news.west.earthlink.net 8.8.8.8
Using domain server:
Name: 8.8.8.8
Address: 8.8.8.8#53
Aliases:
news.west.earthlink.net is an alias for nntp.earthlink.net.
nntp.earthlink.net is an alias for earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net.
earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net is an alias for
earthlink.us.supernews.com.
earthlink.us.supernews.com has address 216.168.4.170
To one using the Earthlink DNS:
$ host news.west.earthlink.net 207.69.188.186
Using domain server:
Name: 207.69.188.186
Address: 207.69.188.186#53
Aliases:
Host news.west.earthlink.net not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
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Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)
David Schultz
Jun 2, 2021, 4:32:40 PM6/2/21
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On 6/2/21 2:51 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
> It is a problem with the Earthlink DNS system. Compare doing a lookup
> using the Google DNS:
>
When I try that I get:
> It is a problem with the Earthlink DNS system. Compare doing a lookup
> using the Google DNS:
>
$ host news.west.earthlink.net 207.69.188.186
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
Aka, Earthlink turned off their DNS system. I received an email several
weeks ago telling me:
> Due to system changes, EarthLink will no longer host the following DNS servers after May 24, 2021.
>
> 207.69.188.185
> 207.69.188.186
> 207.69.188.187
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