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NoRoots

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Apr 9, 2004, 4:53:34 PM4/9/04
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In the bible there is a story of a tower men built to heaven. This part
of the bible is usually taken as literal fact, and it is clear that
God's Kingdom is literally 'up there'. In the story once men build this
tower high enough it collapses, and that is when the human race became
seperated and stopped living with a common culture. Before this
blacks/whites/and everyone else all lived in harmony and spoke one
language as I understand the story. The Hopi native american's also
have a prophecy of what happens when men live up above the world. In
their prophecy this has not happened yet though, but will happen if the
races can not come together and live in harmony. When this happens they
say it will be the final end of the world as we know it, and after that
the survivers will live in harmony as God intends them too.

I'll ask you to think about these two myths for a moment, and to think
about how close we are to living on a permanent basis up in the heavens
that are Gods kingdom. If any one group was completely in control of
space, and could live their on a permanent basis relying only on what
was in space for their survival then they would have total control over
the earth. No missle from earth can reach a space station, and any
attempt to launch a shuttle into space can be stopped from a space
station. If someone did make it up into space though, weapons that work
on earth are not effective in space, for the most part. Although from
space you can easily drop a bomb anywhere on earth. Because of these
facts once someone is in control of space and can establish a kingdom
there, where people live on a permanent basis they will be able to
completely force us all to bow down to them.

The Antichrist in the bible attempts to force us to believe he is
entitled to sit on God's throne in heaven. Heaven is and will always be
up above, and that throne is not for any man.

Pastor Dave

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Apr 10, 2004, 9:06:39 AM4/10/04
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On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 16:53:34 -0400, NoRoots
<NoR...@unculturedamerica.com> spake thusly:

>In the bible there is a story of a tower men built to heaven. This part
>of the bible is usually taken as literal fact, and it is clear that
>God's Kingdom is literally 'up there'.

The story is literal fact. It can be demonstrated that
all languages trace back to this part of the world.
The events happened. That does not mean however, that
the people were right, when they believed they could
build a tower tall enough to reach God.


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NoRoots

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Apr 10, 2004, 1:13:59 PM4/10/04
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Pastor Dave wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 16:53:34 -0400, NoRoots
> <NoR...@unculturedamerica.com> spake thusly:
>
>
>>In the bible there is a story of a tower men built to heaven. This part
>>of the bible is usually taken as literal fact, and it is clear that
>>God's Kingdom is literally 'up there'.
>
>
> The story is literal fact. It can be demonstrated that
> all languages trace back to this part of the world.
> The events happened. That does not mean however, that
> the people were right, when they believed they could
> build a tower tall enough to reach God.
>
>

Yes it does, god affirms that the people were right in the passage.
When he says that since all people spoke the same language anything they
tride to do would be possible for them.. this means if they tride to
build a tower to heaven it would be possible for them.

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