On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 2:09:24 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote:
> On Sunday, 18 September 2022 at 11:34:10 UTC-7, Steven Douglas wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 1:06:31 AM UTC-7, Mike wrote:
> > > On Sunday, 18 September 2022 at 00:00:39 UTC-7, Steven Douglas wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 10:00:31 AM UTC-7, Mike wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ◄ Luke 5:32 ►
> > > > >
> > > > > I have not come to call the righteous,
> > > > > but to protect sinners.
> > >
> > > > That's an interesting translation. I don't think I've ever seen that one
> > > > before. Which translation is it?
> > >
> > > Mikes Own Personal Translation (MOPT)
> > I've seen you do this before. You change the meaning of the Bible
> > verse you're quoting, and then try to make an argument about the
> > Bible based on your error.
> What exactly about my translation is an 'error'. Isn't that
> what Jesus came for? To save the sinners from hell?
They need to repent for that protection. It isn't just bestowed
on sinners who don't repent.
> > > It seemed I found so many diverging translations
> > When that happens, it's best to go back to the original language
> > of the Biblical text and see what it says. In this case, most
> > translations say "repentance" of sinners, not "protect" sinners.
> It doesn't matter what it says. What matters most is
> what he DOES!!
Yes, AFTER you repent.
> > > I thought it best to make up my own.
> > I don't think it's a good idea to change the meaning of the Bible.
> > I think you're playing with fire.
> Absolutely nothing has changed. I just made it
> more clear to understand. Tell me, you are a sinner.
> You said so yourself?
Yes, and I realized I needed to repent. That word "repentance"
comes first, and the protection comes after you repent.
> Wasn't Jesus sent to protect
> you from the consequences of your shortcomings?
Yes, but you don't get to just go on sinning and expect to
be protected. It's really not very difficult to understand.
> If not, what is his purpose then?
His purpose was to overcome the world. He has done so
in so many ways. Before Jesus, this world was a horrible
place. We would not have the societies we have if Jesus
never existed. All you have to do is look at societies that
have rejected Jesus, and if you're honest about it, you will
see what I mean.