Sarah Palin, Rogue
Doc
for Sarah Palin for her new book, "Rogue." When you look up the name rogue
in Webster's New World dictionary it says: 'Once it meant a wandering beggar
or a tramp, a vagabond, a rascal, a scoundrel or a fun-loving, mischievous
person. Or an elephant or other animal that wanders apart from the herd and
is fierce and wild.' It means also to cheat, to destroy. And the word
'roguery' is the behavior or act of a rogue, involving trickery, cheating,
fraud or playful mischief. What a wonderful vice president she would have
been."
http://www.thetimesherald.com/article/20091122/OPINION01/911220335/1014/OPINION/Palin++H1N1++UFOs+are+on+your+minds
LOLOLOLOL!!!
;))~~
Steven Douglas
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> Sarah Palin, Rogue
The Palin obsession lives on. Another day, another Palin thread!
Doc
"Steven Douglas" <steven....@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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The Palin obsession lives on. Another day, another Palin thread!
She knows how to appropriately title her work, I'll give her that much.
Marvin The Paranoid Android
Marvin The Paranoid Android
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>
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> > Sarah Palin, Rogue
>
> The Palin obsession lives on. Another day, another Palin thread!
OMG!!!
You just can't help yourself from 'defending' this precious flower!!
Werewolfy
<marvinparanoidandr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
You just can't help yourself from 'defending' this precious flower!!
I can. Don't know her, just looking at her and knowing her desire for
power is enough.
Burn her.
Werewolfy
JTEM
"Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> a.. Jim from Fort Gratiot: "I couldn't believe how
Back in 2008, George Dubya II, in a typical GOP
fashion, made a conscious decision to run against
Sarah Palin instead of his opponent, John McCain,
swiftboating the woman mercilessly.
But what did Sarah Palin look like before the
swiftboat campaign?
Well, she was a popular governor enjoying broad,
bipartisan support, with a hefty 90% approval
rating. Unlike Obama, she had a hard earned reputation
for integrity, having given up her own job so that
she could (legally) blow the whistle on state
corruption within her own party. The move turned her
into a Persona Non Grata within the GOP, and it would
be years -- without any guarantees -- before she
fought her way back to the top.
Compare this to Obama and, say, Rezko.
Palin: Attacking corruption despite hurting her
career.
Obama: Nurturing corruption because it was so
lucrative for him.
HINT: Rezko was indicted for extorting money from
companies wanting to do business in Illinois for
both himself and for Obama's campaigns.
Without Rezko's help, Obama couldn't have purchased
his home.
Doc
"JTEM" <jte...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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And disposing of her self-avowed 'commitment' to her Alaskan constituency,
she stripped herself down to a cheap demagogue.
When the day comes that rightwingers can let go of such political
liabilities, will be their day of redemption.
Until then, however, the inability to clearly see what most Americans can
discern in her shameless egocentrical clawing for ultimate power, will keep
rightwingers soiling themselves in attempting to appear as a mature,
intelligent partisanship.
That day of reckoning may never come, of course.
It may, in fact, be preempted by civilizational collapse.
Doc
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JTEM
"Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> And disposing of her self-avowed 'commitment'
> to her Alaskan constituency, she stripped
> herself down to a cheap demagogue.
It was so *Cheap* of her to force Obama to
swiftboat her mercilessly.
Doc
Republican Attacks on Obama �Deplorable,� Says Mike Huckabee
In comments made weeks ago and circulating on the Internet ever
since, former GOP presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, now hosting a show
on Fox News, said that Republican attacks on everything President Obama does
are hurting the country.
The right has criticized Obama in recent weeks for such things as
opening the White House to trick-or-treaters and visiting Dover Air Force
Base to pay respect to fallen U.S. soldiers. Huckabee said he hated it when
Bush was treated that way.
"I just find it deplorable that some people on my end of the aisle
want to find everything wrong and nothing right about the man as a man,"
Huckabee said, adding that Obama should get credit for visiting Dover and
giving kids a treat.
Source: latimesblogs.latimes.com
http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=81822
Doc
LOL! Cite, please.
Obama has done nothing remotely resembling what the Swiftees did to Kerry,
who was a decorated soldier. They were relentless in their derogatory, harsh
affronts to his character, calling into question his mental stability,
patriotism, and battlefield courage.
>
JTEM
"Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The right has criticized Obama in
> recent weeks for such things as opening
> the White House to trick-or-treaters and
> visiting Dover Air Force Base to pay
> respect to fallen U.S. soldiers.
Obama really did those things.
Palin didn't fake a pregnancy, she didn't say
that she can see Russia from her house, she
never said that she didn't believe in evolution
and she had very little experience as a chief
executive but infinitely more experience than
Obama.
And, oh: She wasn't running for President.
Doc
"Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Imagine a movement to have Britney Spears be governor of California.
It's not that difficult to envision.
You would hear the same kind of support for her as what you just gave.
Sometimes, in life, Johnny, it's far more sensible to simply make another,
better choice.
JTEM
"Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> LOL! Cite, please.
Google Palin Faked Pregnancy
I got back 156 thousand hits.
She also never tried to ban books, never claimed
that man & dinosaurs coexisted and never said that
she doesn't believe in evolution.
That last one returned over 63 thousand hits alone,
and that's with putting it in quotes!
Before you ask: She never said that she can see
Russia from her house.
Oh. Gore never said he invented the internet, Bill
Clinton didn't stop air traffic for a haircut,
Hillary didn't snub the Gold Star mothers AND Obama
lied his ass off about NAFTA, The Rev. Wright, Rezko
and that mad bomber guy. What was his name? Oh,
yes: Ayers.
Obama == George Dubya II
JTEM
"Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Imagine a movement to have Britney Spears be
> governor of California.
Prior to being governor, she was a city council
member, a mayor and chaired the Alaska Oil and
Gas Conservation Commission which she had to
resign from, in order to legally blow the whistle
on corruption involving her own party (The GOP),
and to file formal charges against the state's
party Chairman.
(Compare this to Obama's personal enrichment from
corruption)
Of course, exposing corruption in her own party
turned her from "Rising Star" to "persona non grata,"
and it would be two years before she climbed her
way back to the top.
The fact that you see parallels here with the life
& experience of Brittany Spears says a great deal
about you (and nothing about Palin or Spears), though
none of it is good.
--
Check out my friend's lame ass show:
Doc
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> "Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Imagine a movement to have Britney Spears be
>> governor of California.
>
> Prior to being governor, she was a city council
> member, a mayor and chaired the Alaska Oil and
> Gas Conservation Commission which she had to
> resign from, in order to legally blow the whistle
> on corruption involving her own party (The GOP),
> and to file formal charges against the state's
> party Chairman.
>
> (Compare this to Obama's personal enrichment from
> corruption)
>
> Of course, exposing corruption in her own party
> turned her from "Rising Star" to "persona non grata,"
> and it would be two years before she climbed her
> way back to the top.
>
> The fact that you see parallels here with the life
> & experience of Brittany Spears says a great deal
> about you (and nothing about Palin or Spears), though
> none of it is good.
No, what I see is a vast field of more capable conservative women to have
borne the historial banner of the first Republican Party female VP. It is
partly because of this 'historical first' that her supporters feel compelled
to hang with her.
The fact is, though, the doddling ol' fart made a damned poor choice.
And Spears is like her.
A celebrity narcissistic fluff puff more than a working serious brain.
We have a governor, Christine Gregoire, who is infinitely more qualified,
who few across the nation know, as they knew nothing of Palin before her
ascendancy.
I can name dozens of mayors of towns and cities, county executives,
governors, even military commanders, who are women that make her
'qualifications' you tout as extraordinary, look quite pathetic.
If all it takes is to hold the most difficult, vital, powerful political and
military position is to be a mayor of a tiny town for two terms, or a
drop-out state governor, or hold some obscure post on a government
commission, then we really need to either face the reality America likes to
live dangerously, foolishly, under unremarkable minor leaders, or that we've
become so fucking stupid as to make Dumbo The Elephant appear to be a
genius.
Doc
Doc
The most vicious 'straw man' pile of shit I've smelled in some time.
I asked for proof of what you alluded to;
It was so *Cheap* of her to force Obama to
> swiftboat her mercilessly.
And what I get is nothing.
Are you on drugs?
Obama has done fucking nothing you imply.
>
JTEM
"Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No, what I see is a vast field of more
> capable conservative women to have
> borne the historial banner of the first
> Republican Party female VP.
And yet she was more qualified to be President
than Obama, and you're not complaining about
him.
She only had about a year of experience as a
chief executive, which means she had a years
worth more than Obama. And Obama had exactly
ZERO experience outside the Illinois state
senate when he began his Presidential campaign:
: Smith noticed this sentence from a story that ran in the
: Wall Street Journal last week: "By the end of the [2004]
: campaign, his aides were sending workers into Iowa, the
: first Presidential caucus state, to begin developing
: contacts among Democrats there, according to Al Kindle,
: an Obama campaign aide at the time."
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/04/29/obama_run/
That one snippet alone has Obama campaigning
for President BEFORE he ever sat in the U.S.
Senate.
HINT: He was sworn in to the Senate in January of
2005.
So Obama was THE LEAST EXPERIENCED Democrat to
every win the nomination in my lifetime, and you're
outraged by Sarah Palin's slightly BETTER credentials.
Psychologically it's pretty obvious. Obumholes can't
admit Obama's flaws, so you simply transfer them
to someone who is safe to hate: Sarah Palin.
This also explains the attacks on Sarah Palin for
her Religion (Obama is an over-the-top religious
flake).
Admit it, you're simply obeying your TV. Obama is
doing a shitty job, he needs a distraction and your
TV keeps spoon feeding you Sarah Palin.
Pretty sad, really...
JTEM
"Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The most vicious 'straw man' pile of
Are you actually pretending that Obama doesn't
have a media love-fest the likes of which we
have only ever seen from Bush?
Google: 2007 Obama Wright
It's pretty clear that Rev. Wright's overt
racism was well known and well publicized AT
LEAST since 2007. Yet in March of 2008,
pretending it was all news to him, he Obama
gave a speech which was effectively one big
huge lie and NOBODY called him on it.
He lied about NAFTA, profusely, and nobody
touched him.
Obama never once told the truth about Ayers
or Rezko, and he's never been called on it.
The Rezko issue is HUGE, at least as big as
George Dubya's draft-dodging-turned-desertion.
Just like Bush, Bush II got a FREE PASS from
the media.
Doc
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> "Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> No, what I see is a vast field of more
>> capable conservative women to have
>> borne the historial banner of the first
>> Republican Party female VP.
>
> And yet she was more qualified to be President
> than Obama, and you're not complaining about
> him.
Let's get something perfectly clear -- whatever you think Obama is short on
in qualifications, still doesn't change the massive shortage Palin has. And
if you want to do comparative "logic" to choose the "best" leader, then it
is as foolish as one can be. If we're to compare Arnold Schwarzeneggar to
Sonny Bono, and so forth, it's much like arguing that we should feel good
one is about as poor as the other.
Palin never served any time in national congress.
She wasn't in the state legislature at all.
Does it take such light qualifications to give your dick a hard-on for
presidential candidates? Do you think Palin wasn't simply a poor choice?
McCain doesn't make fat mistakes?
LOLOLOL!
Get off it, Johnny...hey, you liked Edwards and he cheated on his
cancer-ridden wife, Elizabeth.
You liked Bush and he left office as one of the worst presidents in US
history.
It's been a shitty time for ya, I know, but you can partly redeem yourself
by just admitting the woman isn't qualified and McCain was nuts for picking
her.
Maybe you have her ghost book. I don't know, maybe you dream about fucking
her ass at night, or getting a blowjob, I just can't fathom what turns you
on about this woman, but seriously...
...it's gonna take a lot more than some lil' demagogic fart-blowing gal from
Wasilla to make things right again in America.
A LOT more.
Doc
Doc
"Doc" <cmdr...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:heifqt$e37$1...@aioe.org...
REALITY CHECK !!!!!!!!!!!!
It was so *Cheap* of her to force Obama to
>> swiftboat her mercilessly.
It was so *Cheap* of her to force Obama to
>> swiftboat her mercilessly.
It was so *Cheap* of her to force Obama to
>> swiftboat her mercilessly.
Now read it as many times as you wish, and then look at your replies to me.
Where is anything that shows Obama himself was screwing her with vicious
rumors as they did to Kerry?
You make these semi-cryptic comments, then attempt to relieve yourself with
a lot of monkey dancing.
Please don't accuse me of 'straw manning' anyone, when you're busy doing it
yourself.
Either face up to your comment and admit it was in error, or fuck off.
Doc
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>
Steven Douglas
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> Palin never served any time in national congress.
Neither did FDR, Eisenhower, Carter, Reagan, Clinton, or George W.
Bush. Additionally, Palin was the VICE-Presidential candidate. Obama,
with even less (as in zero) executive experience than Palin, ran for
the top job and is now in the process of showing all of us just how
unqualified he is for that job.
JTEM
"Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Let's get something perfectly clear -- whatever
> you think Obama is short on in qualifications,
> still doesn't change the massive shortage Palin
> has.
Objectively, Palin was more qualified to be President
that Obama. Objectively, Palin had more experience.
As a matter of fact, by any & every objective measure,
Obama is the least experienced man to sit in the Oval
Office in my life time.
Even Reagan had experience as a chief executive in
government...
AT A MAXIMUM, Obama's only exerience at the time he
began running for President was an Illinois state
senator who was mired in corruption. Palin, on the
other hand, was a chief executive -- governor of
Alaska -- who once put fighting corruption in her
own party AHEAD of her own career.
There's simply no debate here. If you're honestly
unhappy with Sarah Palin's credentials -- and it's
not just obeying your TV -- then you have to shit
on Obama was the least worthy man to ever enter the
Whitehouse.
JTEM
Steven Douglas <steven.doug...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> "Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Palin never served any time in national congress.
>
> Neither did FDR, Eisenhower, Carter, Reagan, Clinton,
> or George W. Bush.
Neither did Obama, when he began his campaign:
: Smith noticed this sentence from a story that ran in the
: Wall Street Journal last week: "By the end of the [2004]
: campaign, his aides were sending workers into Iowa, the
: first Presidential caucus state, to begin developing
: contacts among Democrats there, according to Al Kindle,
: an Obama campaign aide at the time."
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/04/29/obama_run/
> Additionally, Palin was the VICE-Presidential candidate.
Exactly. McCain's VICE Presidential candidate was better
qualified to be President than Obama, yet idiots harp on
Palin and praise Obama.
JTEM
"Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Now read it as many times as you wish,
What is your problem? Palin had more experience
than Obama, yet Palin was the VICE Presidential
candidate and Obama was the Presidential
candidate.
Obama is the single least qualified man to ever
sit in the Oval office during my life time and
beyond.
Obama benefited from a media slant the likes of
which we had only ever seen for Bush Dubya, while
Palin was mercilessly swiftboated.
Doc
And we all know intellectually, command-wise, she's right up there with FDR
and Eisenhower. Stick it up your stupid asses, both you and Johnny.
Why don't we just run you two for President, then?
Shit, why don't we get some fucking cheap whore like the one Gov. Sanford
balled, and run her as VP?
EH??
Doc
>
> Steven Douglas <steven.doug...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Palin never served any time in national congress.
>>
>> Neither did FDR, Eisenhower, Carter, Reagan, Clinton,
>> or George W. Bush.
>
> Neither did Obama, when he began his campaign:
>
> : Smith noticed this sentence from a story that ran in the
> : Wall Street Journal last week: "By the end of the [2004]
> : campaign, his aides were sending workers into Iowa, the
> : first Presidential caucus state, to begin developing
> : contacts among Democrats there, according to Al Kindle,
> : an Obama campaign aide at the time."
> http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/04/29/obama_run/
>
>> Additionally, Palin was the VICE-Presidential candidate.
>
> Exactly. McCain's VICE Presidential candidate was better
> qualified to be President than Obama, yet idiots harp on
> Palin and praise Obama
well, you go fuck the bitch, and I'll pass and fuck Gov. Sanford's whore.
Doc
Palin's the best fucking political whore in history.
You can't do any better.
I doubt you or the soldier idiot would pay her much for a blowjob, but
then, neither you need it like so many of her supporters.
Doc
Palin and McCain lost, Obama won.
The people wanted him.
End of story.
Go fuck yourself.
>
JTEM
"Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> well, you go fuck the bitch, and I'll
Gee, didn't take you long. Nope. You advanced
your knee-jerk a few times, and when you didn't
receive the rubber-stamping you require you
melted down to this... as per your usual.
But, go on, try it the way a normal person would
do it. Which is to say, if your position is
undefendable then abandon it. We'll start with
your cheap rationalization that Palin was less
qualified than other women:
Palin was easily more qualified that Obama. Obama
had ZERO experience outside of the Illinois state
Senate when he began his Presidential campaign:
: Smith noticed this sentence from a story that ran in the
: Wall Street Journal last week: "By the end of the [2004]
: campaign, his aides were sending workers into Iowa, the
: first Presidential caucus state, to begin developing
: contacts among Democrats there, according to Al Kindle,
: an Obama campaign aide at the time."
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/04/29/obama_run/
Worse yet, Obama is the single __Least__
qualified man to win the nomination (never mind
the election) for President in any of our lifetimes.
JTEM
"Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Palin's the best fucking political whore
> in history.
Your emotional...errr... "Difficulties" are
shining through, again.
In the last round you were pretending that your
"issue" with her was that there are far more
qualified women out there. Instead of admitting
that your own argument makes Obama out to be
absolute shit (because he was the least qualified
man to EVER get elected President in over 100
years, less qualified than even Palin), you reduce
yourself to this.
Congratulations.
But the mature person would have simply admitted
their error and moved on...
JTEM
"Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Palin and McCain lost, Obama won.
Yes. Like the other George Dubya, the TV told
people to like Obama, even as Obama made the
conscious decision to run against Palin and not
McCain (because sexism is okay), and the result
was the __Least__ qualified man to serve in the
Oval Office in more than a century.
Doc
>
> "Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> well, you go fuck the bitch, and I'll
>
> Gee, didn't take you long. Nope. You advanced
> your knee-jerk a few times, and when you didn't
> receive the rubber-stamping you require you
> melted down to this... as per your usual.
It's not a meltdown, it's a sarcastic stab in your silly support for a
mundane politician.
>
> But, go on, try it the way a normal person would
> do it. Which is to say, if your position is
> undefendable then abandon it. We'll start with
> your cheap rationalization that Palin was less
> qualified than other women:
Oh, you go ahead and keep defending her, and touting her ordinary
qualifications. Why not? We we can have a President for two terms that chose
to stay out of Nam, but direct two useless wars in the Mideast, and talk of
sacrifice for 'freedom and demoracy' while he made none himself, well, shit,
why the hell not promote a woman of barely average qualifications and
intelligence? Gee, what was it that the other guy here that hangs on her
skirts said? Oh yeah, he was comparing her to FDR and Eisenhower. LOL!
>
> Palin was easily more qualified that Obama. Obama
> had ZERO experience outside of the Illinois state
> Senate when he began his Presidential campaign:
>
> : Smith noticed this sentence from a story that ran in the
> : Wall Street Journal last week: "By the end of the [2004]
> : campaign, his aides were sending workers into Iowa, the
> : first Presidential caucus state, to begin developing
> : contacts among Democrats there, according to Al Kindle,
> : an Obama campaign aide at the time."
> http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/04/29/obama_run/
>
> Worse yet, Obama is the single __Least__
> qualified man to win the nomination (never mind
> the election) for President in any of our lifetimes.
Obama inherited the worst mess a President has had in many decades, and if
you think McCain or anyone else could work miracles with it in less than a
year, you're obviously one who would gravitate toward a demagogue like Palin
who promises to save America from liberal ruin. LOL!
Really old stuff, Johnny, terribly stale partisan garbage that I could
recount many times over the decades, tucked away in obscure newsletters sent
via snail mail to fanatics like yourself to comfort them.
Usenet political blather is even less significant -- takes even less effort
and construction. But, as far as you thinking I'm popping off foolishly, I
would remind you of your many posts where you took Wolfy and me, and others,
to the toilet and attempted to draw a parallel between the stuff deposited
there, and us, and the worth of our opinions, in the harshest, harassing
manner.
And then you went onto set yourself up as a medium to Nostradamus and sell
your visions, er, his visions, to folks.
I'm not nearly as nuts as you, Johnny.
And I'm more moral than that. I don't try to scam folks, or present myself
as a link to the supernatural.
Real nutcases do things like that.
Having said that, let me tell you to take your Palin worship to the altar.
You need to marry her, and explain why you'd rather fuck the guy next door.
If you can't fuck him, then you'll be reduced to your sex dolls again, one
of which you could have molded into a Palin lookalike.
That would be grounds for her to divorce you.
And then she'd have to seduce Steven here next, and god knows who he prefers
to fuck.
Doc
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>
>
Doc
if they were, you'd have shattered them to the ground.
I'm not forgetting how you treated Wolfy and me for months here. You have
nothing to feel morally, mentally, intellectually superior about.
But, if you wish to delude yourself some more, may I suggest you get into
bed with Palin and tell her how she's the hottest leader-to-be ever, and
that you and her will rule America the way God intended.
All you and the bitch need to do is keep from driving each other into total
insanity.
Doc
TV didn't sway them -- rationality, intelligence, personality, maturity did.
You credit the electronic media way too much.
If the media swayed people thusly, then we'd have to cancel the candidates'
self-promotional tours, and simply sit back and have medialogues sell them
to us.
No, the least qualified man to serve in the WH in the last century was from
redneck Texas.
The voters said as much in polls galore.
No national congressional experience...not even 2 years Obama had.
A man who wasn't even elected by the popular vote, but by a corrupted horrid
mess in Florida, and the representational vote.
And then rode to a 2nd term by beating down a Nam decorated vet -- a war
Bush chose to stay out of, that Cheney stayed clear of with 5 deferments.
LOL!
And has Palin served in the Alaska state legislature? Why not?
Doesn't like to be part of a herd? Likes to be the lead cow?
Well, nevermind, her noncommitment to them is history, an uncomfortable
maneuver to ride to ultimate power, leaving those tundra turds behind.
Nevermind, too, that her spurious implied accusations Obama was unpatriotic,
even implying he's dangerously radical, by conversing with Bill Ayers, fell
flat with voters and was dropped late in the campaign.
Nice try, Sarah, you fucking sleazy bitch.
Nevermind, too, that she attended state successionist meetings with her
hubby, then tried to make us believe she wasn't a supporter.
Patriotic Sarah -- dump Alaska, dump the union.
Then there's the Couric interview...well, you go ahead and sniff up her
covergirl tight pants, and see where it will get you.
She has 30% support, and so I see her as a floundering demagogue that will
drag idiots like you and Steven down with her into Hell.
Well, that's where you and Steven are heading, anyway.
I can smell the sulfur in your posts.
LOL!!
Doc ;))
>
JTEM
"Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh, you go ahead and keep defending her,
I love it. Now __I'm__ the blind partisan if I insist
on sticking with the truth... Sheesh!
> Obama inherited the worst mess a President has
> had in many decades,
So maybe it wasn't a good idea to elect an amateur, huh?
Because nothing you say here refutes the fact that Obama
is the single least qualified man to win the nomination, never
mind get elected, in any of our lifetimes.
Let that sink in.
We have the absolute worst situation in decades, according
to you, and we have the least qualified man in office to tackle
that situation, according to reality.
Are you beginning to see the problem here?
JTEM
"Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not forgetting how you treated Wolfy and me for
> months here.
but you ARE forgetting that it wasn't me who picked
the fight...
How convenient, that.
"He responded to us disrespectfully, right after we
started in on him! WHAAAAAAAAA!'
Get over yourself.
JTEM
"Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> TV didn't sway them -- rationality, intelligence,
> personality, maturity did.
You misspelled "Fluff."
Let's lay the cards on the table. What will it take to
get you to admit that Obama is useless?
Personally, there isn't much the guy could do to
redeem himself at this point. Between all his lies,
his backstabbing the left and his continuation of
Bush's bad policies, it seems to me that the fat
lady has already sung.
You claim otherwise, but instead of fighting over
it, just tell us what it would take to prove it to you.
A failure to pass meaningful healthcare reform?
What?
I asked one of your counterparts -- a Bushbot --
that very same question, way back about five
years ago. He didn't have the guts to answer.
Or, should I say, he made it clear that he was
going to auto-approve of Bush no matter what.
Are you just some dizzy psycho, or do you have
limits? If so, name them. Where do you draw the
line, what has to happen before you denounce
Obama?
Doc
>
> "Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh, you go ahead and keep defending her,
>
> I love it. Now __I'm__ the blind partisan if I insist
> on sticking with the truth... Sheesh!
Truth? A cheap malleable commodity here. Your 'truth' is an oversell of an
ordinary woman.
>
>> Obama inherited the worst mess a President has
>> had in many decades,
>
> So maybe it wasn't a good idea to elect an amateur, huh?
Maybe we should've hold a second election for the disgruntled, with third
and fourth parties? eh?
>
> Because nothing you say here refutes the fact that Obama
> is the single least qualified man to win the nomination, never
> mind get elected, in any of our lifetimes.
>
> Let that sink in.
>
> We have the absolute worst situation in decades, according
> to you, and we have the least qualified man in office to tackle
> that situation, according to reality.
>
> Are you beginning to see the problem here?
I'm seeing that going over to a ordinary bitch and overpromoting her the
highest position is an act of stupidity and desperation when you dont' need
to go there. What is needed is to dump bitches like her, and promote better
candidates. Playing off one unsatisfying candidate against the other is the
stuff of fanaticism. Few think she's qualified in several polls. One poll
did matter. It was held Nov. 4th last year, and they picked him. I saw no
other viable alternates there, did you? Other than protest votes for some
obscure guy, as usual. "Rather than lay in on Obama, lay it on the system
itself, where it truly belongs.
>
Doc
Wolfy and I don't 'pick fights' out of thin air, Johnny. You have a
thick
background of harassment, arrogance, and intellectual slippage. You
came
here calling this group a bunch of stupid people. And we responded
thusly.
You then told us how Nostradamus was confiding in you.
And then you were 'forced' to get into a long back and forth
insulting
exchange. My, how it was so necessary. I've seen you disappear here
for
weeks, come back and sling shit at Wolfy and me, with no prior
provocation.
Now, must we dig into the fucking archives to "prove" you're the
instigator
and insane harasser? I don't like being called a mental case, nor
Wolfy a
piss-stained weakling, anymore than you like being called a fairy. You
get
what you deliver, Johnny, and hypocrisy is your forte, as well. You
wanna
discuss things nicely these days, do ya? Well, I'd have to suspend all
that
transpired between us before, and keep an act of faith you've been re-
made
into an sane, courteous, intelligent poster. I'm not at all
convinced.
Foolishly arguing for the installment of a political weasel into the
highest
office as inspiration we're a nation of smart people who really care,
doesn't help either.
Doc
JTEM
"Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Truth? A cheap malleable commodity here.
Hardly.
And if in your world people are condemned for speaking
the truth, I leave you to rot in your Hell alone.
JTEM
Doc <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wolfy and I don't 'pick fights' out of thin air, Johnny.
That's right. I first committed the crime of saying something
you disliked and/or disagreed with. Naturally you decided
that this granted you a license to attack without reply by
me.
Like I said, get over yourself.
Doc
Mispellings are so central to the discussion. Let us point out all
your's, shall we?
I don't need to denouce Obama, but to wait patiently to see results.
He himself has repeatedly cautioned against expecting economic
recovery miracles the first year. I am prepared to wait for his first
term to expire to judge his overall worth.
I've already posted several times this year my misgivings about his
lack of experience, and didn't approve of his statement on the Boston
police being 'stupid.' But, if we are to think that a President is
beyond human fallibility, then we need to look no further than the
other side of the aisle and what it produced over the decades.
Partisanship is deeply rooted in personality identification with the
favored candidate. We automatically gravitate to the personality
before we embrace the policies. Bush and McCain reflected the voters'
personalities, as does Obama's supporters.
It is more than policy, it is personality for either side.
You can find this essential truth in the support of any candidate. So,
that is why we react, on either side, to attacks on the candidates we
identify most with. It is then really a deep personal interconnection
we feel and defend.
Doc
Doc
Well, that conveniently ignores your long history of whacking us for
no apparent reason, and then keep going at it, vocifierously, day
after day.
Maybe you can just chuck your own unsavory behavior here, but not all
of us are that prone to total obfuscation of personality disorders
you've displayed.
If you wish to remake yourself into a new and improved JTEM, and
simply focus on my angry pop-offs, and ignore your history of the same
behavior, then 'truth' is a fucking cheap malleable commodity, as I
said.
LOL!
Doc
Well, let's see, I"ve been called all manner of things by you - pig
fucker, mental case (variations abound), stupid, asshole, ad nauseam.
Simply because I disagree with you.
Now, I don't know what you fucking smoke in Texas, but in Washington
State, from such delusional behavior, we'd suspect you've been tapping
down dried shrooms in your pipe.
Doc
> "Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Truth? A cheap malleable commodity here.
>
> Hardly.
So...the 'truth' is that you conversed with Nostradamus?
>
> And if in your world people are condemned for speaking
> the truth, I leave you to rot in your Hell alone.
Does Nostradamus reside there?
JTEM
Doc <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mispellings are so central to the discussion.
Can you spell, "Dodging the issue"?
> I don't need to denouce Obama,
Have you no reading comprehension? You weren't asked
to denounce ObumHole, you were asked what it would
take before you denounced him.
Answer the question. Stop dodging.
JTEM
Doc <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, that conveniently ignores your long history
> of whacking us for no apparent reason,
It doesn't exist. As I pointed out, I didn't start with
the nasty exchanges.
JTEM
Doc <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, let's see, I"ve been called all manner of things
> by you
"He hit me first, right after I hit him. WHAAAAAAA!'
One. More. Time.
Get over yourself.
JTEM
Doc <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So...the 'truth' is that you conversed with Nostradamus?
Who cares? It's irrelevant. Nothing I said, nothing I can
say could ever relieve you of your responsibility for your
actions.
Don't like it? Tough shit.
> > And if in your world people are condemned for speaking
> > the truth, I leave you to rot in your Hell alone.
>
> Does Nostradamus reside there?
File this one under "Not exactly keen on the concept."
I'd ask you how I'd know who or what resides in your Hell,
but we both know that would be a waste of time.
Doc
>
> Doc <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So...the 'truth' is that you conversed with Nostradamus?
>
> Who cares? It's irrelevant. Nothing I said, nothing I can
> say could ever relieve you of your responsibility for your
> actions.
You mean your assinine childishness, hypocrisy and particular 'paranormal
psychosis' affords you an elevated moral, behavorial position?
>
> Don't like it? Tough shit.
I didn't say I didn't like it. I'm just curious what makes you think you're
in a morally, socially, behaviorially superior position over me? What with
all your past behavior here, it's hard to imagine you've transformed into
something quite the opposite, especially so fast, so dramatically. Might
you let us in on how this miraculous transformation occurred?
>
>> > And if in your world people are condemned for speaking
>> > the truth, I leave you to rot in your Hell alone.
>>
>> Does Nostradamus reside there?
>
> File this one under "Not exactly keen on the concept."
>
> I'd ask you how I'd know who or what resides in your Hell,
> but we both know that would be a waste of time.
Well, your Hell seems to have encompassed the usenet and conveniently
switching personalities. First, you were a Mr. Hyde, and now sort of a Dr.
Jekyll.
I'm wondering how many trips back and forth you've made between Hades and
here, and whether you're occasionally confused about which one you're in.
>
>
Doc
And we're to believe you've gotten over 'yourself'? That is, the other
personality you had here. I mean, is it that you've found a more suitable
lover, or a better job, or have come upon a great inheritance, or have been
accepted by a popular socialite or celebrity?
Perhaps, you've had an angel enter your soul and transform you.
Or a demon exorcised.
Hmmm?
>
Doc
>
> Doc <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mispellings are so central to the discussion.
>
> Can you spell, "Dodging the issue"?
You popped off I misspelled a word, 'fluffy'. Is mispelling a word so
important to the discussion? Now, stop dodging, and answer it. How does
misspelling a word have any relation to the discussion topic? It does ,
however, relate to psychosis -- obsessive-compulsive behavior. But I prefer
to think you're simply immature and have a need to nitpick.
>
>> I don't need to denouce Obama,
>
> Have you no reading comprehension? You weren't asked
> to denounce ObumHole, you were asked what it would
> take before you denounced him.
>
> Answer the question. Stop dodging.
And I answered it. Time. And if that period passes and he is more popular,
his policies have proven to be effective, then I will vote for him again.
What will it take for you to find a candidate the majority trusts?
>
Steven Douglas
>
> "JTEM" <jte...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
>
> >> well, you go fuck the bitch, and I'll
>
> > Gee, didn't take you long. Nope. You advanced
> > your knee-jerk a few times, and when you didn't
> > receive the rubber-stamping you require you
> > melted down to this... as per your usual.
>
> It's not a meltdown, it's a sarcastic stab in your silly support for a
> mundane politician.
I seriously doubt JTEM supports Palin. All he's done is point out that
she was better qualified for the second job than Obama is for the top
job. And the reason is that she has actual *executive* experience.
Obama had none, until he entered into his current on-the-job training.
Steven Douglas
>
> No, the least qualified man to serve in the WH in the last century was from
> redneck Texas.
LBJ?
Steven Douglas
>
> On Nov 27, 1:24 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Doc <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Wolfy and I don't 'pick fights' out of thin air, Johnny.
>
> > That's right. I first committed the crime of saying something
> > you disliked and/or disagreed with. Naturally you decided
> > that this granted you a license to attack without reply by
> > me.
>
> > Like I said, get over yourself.
>
> Well, let's see, I"ve been called all manner of things by you - pig
> fucker, mental case (variations abound), stupid, asshole, ad nauseam.
> Simply because I disagree with you.
You know, Doc, you've called me most (if not all) of those things --
simply because I disagree with you. So what's your point?
Werewolfy
wrote:
> I seriously doubt JTEM supports Palin. All he's done is point out that
> she was better qualified for the second job than Obama is for the top
> job. And the reason is that she has actual *executive* experience.
> Obama had none, until he entered into his current on-the-job training.
What can anyone mean...'qualification'? There is no qualification as
such to be a Politician or a President. All you have to do, is to
present yourself to the public in such a way, that they vote for you.
Previous work as an Ambassador, or public figure may help you towards
that, and may work against you.
The only qualification this wonderful fanciful 'democracy' requires,
is to be popular. Having a bottomless bag of money and many helpers
and advisors is a great help too.
Werewolfy
Woodswun
I disagree - you need to have lots and lots of money. I think the
past several presidencies have been won by the candidate who spent the
most on the presidential campaign.
It's a sorry state of affairs, but there it is.
Woods
Werewolfy
> I disagree - you need to have lots and lots of money. �I think the
> past several presidencies have been won by the candidate who spent the
> most on the presidential campaign.
Umm...That's what I said, Woodsy.
????
Werewolfy
Steven Douglas
>
> On 27 Nov, 17:14, Steven Douglas <steven.doug...@rocketmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I seriously doubt JTEM supports Palin. All he's done is point out that
> > she was better qualified for the second job than Obama is for the top
> > job. And the reason is that she has actual *executive* experience.
> > Obama had none, until he entered into his current on-the-job training.
>
> What can anyone mean...'qualification'? There is no qualification as
> such to be a Politician or a President. All you have to do, is to
> present yourself to the public in such a way, that they vote for you.
That's true. Obama proved it and got just slightly over half the
voters to vote for him. But the argument is over *who* had better
qualifications, Palin or Obama. She was running for the second job,
while Obama was running for the top job. She actually does have
*executive* experience, while Obama had none until he entered his
current on-the-job training.
Steven Douglas
Money alone won't buy anyone the presidency. Ask John Edwards.
Woodswun
Yeah, I see that now, Wolfy. Sorry, I'm pretty loopy right now.
(Taking meds for a pulled muscle ... hate 'em, but I hate pain more -
I am a big baby - lol!)
Woods
Doc
"Steven Douglas" <steven....@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
news:a7ec3205-d605-45f0...@g22g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Having 'executive' experience would dictate one had a determination to
follow through on it.
Dumping Alaskan voters isn't the hallmark of a good executive mindset.
And Johnny has been cheerleading the bitch in numerous posts. Where have you
been?
Oh, yeah, you've been busy shooting down the UK Iraq enquiry.
LOL!
Doc
"Werewolfy" <Werew...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:c95d9dba-5fba-4035...@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
Curiously, the 'negative' 'liberal' media that lambasts the silly tundra cow
actually helps her get a 'backlash' defensive support base, and keeps her
face in the media.
The 'negative' publicity Nixon got for most of his career, actually did
little to deter voters in 1972.
But, Palin is not like Nixon. Despite his criminal mind, he was a rather
smart man, with a lot of experience he used to defeat what seemed to be a
avalanche of poor imaging by the media.
Palin has no such resourcefulness, and her supporters are more the kind that
identify with her supposed ordinariness ('soccer mom') and 'down home'
personality.
Intellectualism on the Right is usually held in contempt, and when Mitt
Romney, arguably the most intellectual 2008 Republican candidate, tried to
get a bit too smart in his delivery, rightwingers drifted off to the old
doddler from Arizona and Palin. Even Huckabee was smarter, sharper.
You can hear rightwingers bemoaning Obama's intellectualism, as if being
smart and using a greater vocabulary, scares them. Kerry really used a lot
of big words and deeper conceptualism, and I heard rightwingers complain he
was just too 'Ivy League.' The Kennedys often get the same criticism.
Doc
>
Doc
I don't know what is your 'point'? I'm addressing JTEM's personality. Are
you having a lonely, boring day, or what?
But, if you must butt in, yes, I call people what I see them as. If
changing your ID and worrying about a general age admittance will get a
terrorist delivered to your home is a sign of mental stability, I fail to
comprehend it.
Doc
LBJ?
He wasn't from the redneck portion of Texas.
Doc
Either way, I was here the first time you wiggled in, and I clearly recall
your contempt for this group from the beginning.
Anyone who attempts to scam the public by appearing to have 'extraordinary
psychic powers' is a fucking nut case, fella.
And no one believes you have any channeling ability.
Ask around, and find out if I don't speak the truth.
You discredit yourself, fella.
We didn't need to do it in any shape or form.
Your habitual nasty exchanges here went far beyond simply responding. You'd
leave for days or week, then come back and immediately launch into insulting
posts against Wolfy and me.
Your recharacterization of your history here can be easily refuted by
archival research, and is a further indication you're a fucking nut job. You
remake yourself in the posts of today, and leave your history to another
persona you wish us to believe you've shed off like a caterpillar worm.
Well, butterfly, you're not fooling me.
Doc
>
>
>
JTEM
"Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "JTEM" <jte...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > It doesn't exist. As I pointed out, I didn't start with
> > the nasty exchanges.
>
> You're either
Nope, sorry, but I really didn't start the nastiness,
and it's too bad if your illness can't deal with that
fact.
JTEM
"Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You popped off I
Again, you're dodging.
> > Have you no reading comprehension? You weren't asked
> > to denounce ObumHole, you were asked what it would
> > take before you denounced him.
>
> > Answer the question. Stop dodging.
>
> And I answered it. Time.
No, crank, "Time" is not an answer, unless you're
claiming that you will be denouncing Obama after
some time, no matter what his actual job performance.
Doc
It's a shame you don't remember. I'm nearly 60, and I remember things well.
You should eat more amino-rich foods.
>
Doc
I can denounce you now, and wait til later if I need to denounce Obama.
Since you can't wait for even the first year to be over, and we waded
through 8 years of sloppy corrupted leadership, which handed him a nightmare
to fix, I'm more satisifed than ever with my patience. It comes with
maturity and age.
And the knowledge that nut jobs like you flitter around like shit flies in
an outhouse, impatient for the next crap dump.
Politics is a crap dump, dummy.
You can sit on its seat and pass the time and do nothing in particular, or
you can clean out the bowl before it stinks too much.
We just cleaned out the bowl -- 8 years worth.
And if I had my way, I'd make sure you were in the next flush.
LOL!
JTEM
JTEM
"Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> And we're to believe
You're to grow the fuck up, and move on.
Contrary to your personal philosophy,
quantity is NOT a quality.
JTEM
"Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I can denounce you
I crank the organ and the monkey dances...
Dance, my monkey. Dance.
Doc
"Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's a shame you don't remember.
Thanks for the irony.
See...here you are, engaging in the same useless childish pattern of endless
insulting exchanges you're so well known for.
Another irony, to be sure.
But, aside from that, is psychosis in you.
And there's another irony..
Ironies galore, in fact.
Doc
Since you lack quality, you shouldn't dismiss quantity.
It's the quantity of hypocrisies that sink your ship.
But a convenient selective memory can keep the rudder pointed against the
wind, at least for your own purposes.
>
Doc
Has a shrink told you that your monkey can be slapped, drained, and
sucked,
but that it doesn't ever dance?
You need to grow up and realize the limitations of your monkey.