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John Lemke

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Jul 7, 2009, 11:26:47 PM7/7/09
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More green shoots!

Delinquencies on U.S. Home-Equity Loans Reach Record

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=axMDObJEk6eA

By Margaret Chadbourn

July 7 (Bloomberg) -- Late payments on home-equity loans rose to a
record in the first quarter as 18 straight months of job losses and a
slumping economy left more borrowers unable to pay their debts, the
American Bankers Association reported.

Delinquencies on home-equity loans climbed to 3.52 percent of all
accounts from 3.03 percent in the fourth quarter, and late payments on
home-equity lines of credit climbed to a record 1.89 percent, the
group reported today. An index of eight types of loans rose for a
fourth straight quarter, to 3.23 percent from 3.22 percent in October
through December, the group said.

“The number one driver of delinquencies is job losses, which we’ve
seen build and build,” James Chessen, the group’s chief economist,
said in a telephone interview. “Delinquencies won’t come down without
a dramatic improvement in the economy and businesses will have to
start hiring again.”

Steven Douglas

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Jul 7, 2009, 11:31:38 PM7/7/09
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On Jul 7, 8:26 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
> More green shoots!
>
> Delinquencies on U.S. Home-Equity Loans Reach Record

Don't worry, John, you got the guy you wanted in the White House, and
he's going to fix the economy, just as he promised he would.

Pers3id

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Jul 8, 2009, 4:39:13 AM7/8/09
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John Lemke <jfl...@locallink.net> wrote in news:139d42dc-3167-400a-bcfa-
66e0f5...@y10g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

> More green shoots!
>
> Delinquencies on U.S. Home-Equity Loans Reach Record
>
> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=axMDObJEk6eA

An avalanche of default is headed our way.. and we spent how many
$$Trillion in Iraq ? That was money we will never see again. I guess
we can thank Bush and all his little enablers, like stephen.


>
> By Margaret Chadbourn
>
> July 7 (Bloomberg) -- Late payments on home-equity loans rose to a
> record in the first quarter as 18 straight months of job losses and a
> slumping economy left more borrowers unable to pay their debts, the
> American Bankers Association reported.
>
> Delinquencies on home-equity loans climbed to 3.52 percent of all
> accounts from 3.03 percent in the fourth quarter, and late payments on
> home-equity lines of credit climbed to a record 1.89 percent, the
> group reported today. An index of eight types of loans rose for a
> fourth straight quarter, to 3.23 percent from 3.22 percent in October
> through December, the group said.
>
> �The number one driver of delinquencies is job losses, which we�ve
> seen build and build,� James Chessen, the group�s chief economist,
> said in a telephone interview. �Delinquencies won�t come down without
> a dramatic improvement in the economy and businesses will have to

> start hiring again.�

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Jul 8, 2009, 5:04:24 AM7/8/09
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On 8 July, 04:26, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

"Delinquencies on U.S. Home-Equity Loans Reach Record"

You really should try to keep up with your mortgage, Andy Pandy. How
much badly invested money did you lose?

Werewolfy


Pers3id

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Jul 8, 2009, 6:23:53 AM7/8/09
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Werewolfy <Werew...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:5f1d7940-1f18-49fe-840b-
fc73f0...@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:

Oh no woofy, you're tipping your hand. Money concerns means your
police pension is losing value, your home is losing value, and
you probably have relatives leaning on you because they're being
sucked under by the money supply collapse.

I'm sorry for your loss.

John Lemke

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Jul 8, 2009, 7:18:14 AM7/8/09
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On Jul 8, 8:39 am, Pers3id <pers...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
> John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote in news:139d42dc-3167-400a-bcfa-
> 66e0f59dd...@y10g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

>
> > More green shoots!
>
> > Delinquencies on U.S. Home-Equity Loans Reach Record
>
> >http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=axMDObJEk6eA
>
> An avalanche of default is headed our way.. and we spent how many
> $$Trillion in Iraq ? That was money we will never see again. I guess
> we can thank Bush and all his little enablers, like stephen.

No, we can find solace from Stephen by entering his alternate
reality. Obama's going to end up being responsible for every error
made in the last 10 years. Even the record delinquincies in the first
2 1/2 months he's in office.

Who needs optimism when a democrat's in charge?

The truth is insufferable.

"When freedom becomes a threat, call Marcia Law"

John Lemke

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Jul 8, 2009, 7:18:22 AM7/8/09
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You really should try to keep up with who you're replying to.

Jane

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Jul 8, 2009, 8:23:55 AM7/8/09
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We have a home equity line for emergencies only. It's nice to know
there is a big chunk of money available hassle-free should we need it,
but we haven't had such an emergency yet. I guess we were lucky...we
were both raised by debt-adverse parents. We have no debt, not even a
mortgage. Lots of people use their credit line to pay for cars,
vacations, etc and these are often people who haven't even paid their
mortgage off yet! I have a difficult time feeling sorry for them. We
did without at times, because the debt was our priority.

Steven Douglas

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Jul 8, 2009, 8:49:52 AM7/8/09
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On Jul 8, 1:39 am, Pers3id <pers...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
>
> John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote in news:139d42dc-3167-400a-bcfa-
> 66e0f59dd...@y10g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > More green shoots!
>
> > Delinquencies on U.S. Home-Equity Loans Reach Record
>
> >http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=axMDObJEk6eA
>
> An avalanche of default is headed our way.. and we spent how many
> $$Trillion in Iraq ? That was money we will never see again. I guess
> we can thank Bush and all his little enablers, like stephen.

And you, Randy:

[quoting Randy] "Far from being demoralized, our soldiers are
currently on the move, they're conducting raids and arresting
baathists and terrorists across iraq. They're on the hunt for the bad
guys who like to kill indiscriminately. Our soldiers have a very clear
purpose there." [end quote]

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/2c62faf51731ed2c?hl=en


[quoting Randy] "Exactly right. If there's a possibility you're going
to attack us, we're going to kill you first.

"Fuck the weapons inspectors, they don't have a clue. This is WAR now.
We'll find the weapons after we've taken your country." [end quote]

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/56b048e12da7f8bb?hl=en


[quoting Randy] "That's an understatement. He was launching missiles
on an almost daily basis at our pilots patroling the no-fly zone. For
this reason alone I think we were right to take hussein out." [end
quote]

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/d2089db137818dca?hl=en


[quoting Randy] "Saddam's real mistake was making an enemy of the
United States. We didn't like him, we didn't trust him, we thought he
was dangerous. We decided to take him out." [end quote]

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/95cda7460a4bc3ff?hl=en&


[quoting Randy] "I'd say we did it to take out saddam and company, who
were certainly willing, and probably capable of doing a terrorist act
like you described, but there were other very good reasons to take out
saddam, like the fact he was fomenting continued violence in Israel by
giving money to suicide bombers.

"It's all one big ugly, intertwined story, and you seem to want to
focus on one specific thing and ignore everything else." [end quote]

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/85b3c22ca2cb847d?hl=en&


[quoting Randy] That's right. We've already invested too much to see
another tin pot dictator seize the reins. I can't see how the Iraqi
people would want that either, after what they just went through with
saddam. Those people are literally hearing voices and screams of their
relatives coming from holes and tunnels under Baghdad. Hearts and
minds... there's no way they'll go for another dictatorship if they
see it coming. [end quote]

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/eb9ed8eebad8c99e?hl=en&


[quoting Randy] "Still, I do believe the bad people and nations of the
world respond best to force. We're a super-power and we should act
like it. We're a democracy with great regard for human rights but it
doesn't mean we should allow terrorist organizations and states to
attack our people and interests indiscriminately." [end quote]

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/fdfcaab93c629110?hl=en&


[quoting Randy] "We didn't invade iraq because saddam was being mean
to his own people, we invaded because he had history of agression
against neighbors and had some wmd's and was close to getting nukes.

"In places like saudi arabia you often find summary executions,
without trial, by beheading.

"We shouldn't kid ourselves that the mid-east arab states are going to
be more ethical or more humanitarian just because we want them to.
There is still a large gap in understanding between our culture and
theirs, and it seems the only words they really understand from us
right now are force / military power.

"Eventually we'll meet in the middle somewhere, but it may take a few
decades. Cultures often come to understanding each other after warring
together for a while." [end quote]

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/98a084ffb35c6acc?hl=en&

Steven Douglas

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Jul 8, 2009, 8:56:24 AM7/8/09
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On Jul 8, 4:18 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
> On Jul 8, 8:39 am, Pers3id <pers...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
>
> > John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote in news:139d42dc-3167-400a-bcfa-
> > 66e0f59dd...@y10g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > More green shoots!
>
> > > Delinquencies on U.S. Home-Equity Loans Reach Record
>
> > >http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=axMDObJEk6eA
>
> > An avalanche of default is headed our way.. and we spent how many
> > $$Trillion in Iraq ? That was money we will never see again. I guess
> > we can thank Bush and all his little enablers, like stephen.
>
> No, we can find solace from Stephen by entering his alternate
> reality.  Obama's going to end up being responsible for every error
> made in the last 10 years.  Even the record delinquincies in the first
> 2 1/2 months he's in office.

If you and your conservative friends -- such as Rush Limbaugh and
Ambrose Evans-Pritchard -- are correct, the Democratic Party will be
blamed for the ongoing struggling economy in the next mid-term
election. Perception is everything, John, and that's why some of your
conservative friends are joining you in wishing for an ongoing
struggling economy in 2010. If you think the voters are going to look
back and blame the party out of power, you don't know your history --
which wouldn't surprise me at all.

Gary Forbis

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Jul 8, 2009, 9:24:21 AM7/8/09
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On Jul 8, 5:56 am, Steven Douglas <steven.doug...@rocketmail.com>
wrote:

> If you and your conservative friends -- such as Rush Limbaugh and
> Ambrose Evans-Pritchard -- are correct, the Democratic Party will be
> blamed for the ongoing struggling economy in the next mid-term
> election. Perception is everything, John, and that's why some of your
> conservative friends are joining you in wishing for an ongoing
> struggling economy in 2010. If you think the voters are going to look
> back and blame the party out of power, you don't know your history --
> which wouldn't surprise me at all.

I irritated my brother on the 4th by asserting that next year the
price
of gasoline won't go up in late spring/early summer then down in the
fall but
rather the rise in price will be a bit later and smaller but will
continue
to inch up through the fall. I hope our electorate is wising up to
these
voter manipulations.

Werewolfy

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Jul 8, 2009, 11:31:25 AM7/8/09
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On 8 July, 11:23, Pers3id <pers...@comcast.invalid> wrote:

> Oh no woofy, you're tipping your hand. Money concerns means your
> police pension is losing value, your home is losing value, and
> you probably have relatives leaning on you because they're being
> sucked under by the money supply collapse.
>
> I'm sorry for your loss.

I love it all.

My pension is the same, increased a fair bit in fact...does that every
year.

I have no debt whatsoever. I have no mortgage. The 'value' of my house
means nothing; it's where I live, and as it is not for sale, the price
is irrelevent.

I have no credit card. I deal in cash, always have done. If this is
'Hard Times', then long may they continue. Shop prices are lower, yet
my income is higher.

So, be 'sorry' for whatever you like. It's nonsense. Happily, I don't
heed financial advice from so-called experts like you.

Werewolfy

Werewolfy

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Jul 8, 2009, 11:34:51 AM7/8/09
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On 8 July, 12:18, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

"You really should try to keep up with who you're replying to."

Is this Johnny? Or John Lemke...or someone via a Polish server
perhaps?

If it's THE John Lemke, well, it in't too easy to ditinguish you from
your pet, Andy Pandy.

Werewolfy

Werewolfy

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Jul 8, 2009, 11:44:18 AM7/8/09
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On 8 July, 13:23, Jane <pushlin...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> We have a home equity line for emergencies only. �It's nice to know
> there is a big chunk of money available hassle-free should we need it,
> but we haven't had such an emergency yet. �I guess we were lucky...we
> were both raised by debt-adverse parents. �We have no debt, not even a
> mortgage. �Lots of people use their credit line to pay for cars,
> vacations, etc and these are often people who haven't even paid their
> mortgage off yet! �I have a difficult time feeling sorry for them. �We
> did without at times, because the debt was our priority.


At last!

Someone with common sense. It was good to read, Jane. I too, hate
debt, so don't have any. If I want something, I wait until I can
afford to buy it. If I can't afford it, I don't buy it.

Credit has always been a huge trap; use it, and whatever you are
buying costs more. Offer cash and it often enough costs less.

Let those who incur debt suffer for their greed.

Werewolfy

Jane

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Jul 8, 2009, 2:04:43 PM7/8/09
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Funny how our way of thinking is 'trendy' these days, now that debt is
biting so many people in the ass!

Werewolfy

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Jul 8, 2009, 3:04:15 PM7/8/09
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On 8 July, 19:04, Jane <pushlin...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Funny how our way of thinking is 'trendy' these days, now that debt is
> biting so many people in the ass!

I never thought about being, 'trendy'...but yes, that's an interesting
way of looking at it!

I was brought up that way too, Jane. If I wanted it, I had to work for
it. When I had completed sufficient work, then I could buy it.

Andy Pandy want's to 'burn Bankers' and has lain the cause of economic
troubles at Banks who have lent money.
Their's is just an industry, they 'sell' money in the form of credit
and compete against one-another.
I lay as much blame, more in fact, on the millions of people who buy
things they cannot afford, who sign credit aggreements and very often
know they cannot re-pay.

I would quite like a private Jet. If a 'Banker' agreed to let me
borrow the money for one, then I am the criminal for accepting that
offer when, of course, I could never repay the sum or the interest for
that matter.
It's not the Banker that should be 'Burned'. It's the 'Borrower'.

Werewolfy

John Lemke

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Jul 8, 2009, 7:30:00 PM7/8/09
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On Jul 8, 3:31 am, Steven Douglas <steven.doug...@rocketmail.com>
wrote:

Didn't you vote for Obama?

John Lemke

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Jul 8, 2009, 7:41:38 PM7/8/09
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On Jul 8, 12:56 pm, Steven Douglas <steven.doug...@rocketmail.com>
wrote:

> On Jul 8, 4:18 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

>
> > No, we can find solace from Stephen by entering his alternate
> > reality.  Obama's going to end up being responsible for every error
> > made in the last 10 years.  Even the record delinquincies in the first
> > 2 1/2 months he's in office.
>
> If you and your conservative friends -- such as Rush Limbaugh and
> Ambrose Evans-Pritchard -- are correct, the Democratic Party will be
> blamed for the ongoing struggling economy in the next mid-term
> election. Perception is everything, John,

We perceive that we were right about the economy and you were wrong.
All you have left now is bashing Obama.

>and that's why some of your
> conservative friends are joining you in wishing for an ongoing
> struggling economy in 2010.

You're obviously a mad little 4 year-old deep down inside. I sense
it's time once again for a hysteria reducing discussion of
generational alcoholism.

>If you think the voters are going to look
> back and blame the party out of power,

They'll vote their pocketbooks like they always do.

>you don't know your history --

> which wouldn't surprise me at all.-

I don't put any stock in what a Goebbels clone has to say about
history one way or another.

History will show the roots of this going to Wilson and the
establishment of the Fed. It certainly involves FDR even Carter
before Reagan. It also involves Clinton and one Phil Gramm and a
Republican controlled Congress.

And of course history will show Shrub's absolute incompetence or shall
we say cooperation.

Dream on Josef. I suspect that Planet Douglas is about to experience
another occlusive dust storm.

John Lemke

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Jul 8, 2009, 7:44:24 PM7/8/09
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On Jul 8, 3:34 pm, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 8 July, 12:18, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
>
> "You really should try to keep up with who you're replying to."
>
> Is this Johnny? Or John Lemke...or someone via a Polish server
> perhaps?

Depends on what group you're sifting thru there, constable. You're
out there beyond Planet Douglas with the Polish server thing.

>
> If it's THE John Lemke, well, it in't too easy to ditinguish you from
> your pet, Andy Pandy.

It's a mistake you make a lot nowadays. Maybe your mentor can help
you with that also.

Steven Douglas

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Jul 8, 2009, 11:07:57 PM7/8/09
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No. But once it became clear he was going to win, I listed some his
campaign promises with which I agreed, and said I could support him
based on those promises.

Steven Douglas

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Jul 8, 2009, 11:14:01 PM7/8/09
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On Jul 8, 4:41 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
>
> On Jul 8, 12:56 pm, Steven Douglas <steven.doug...@rocketmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 8, 4:18 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
>
> > > No, we can find solace from Stephen by entering his alternate
> > > reality.  Obama's going to end up being responsible for every error
> > > made in the last 10 years.  Even the record delinquincies in the first
> > > 2 1/2 months he's in office.
>
> > If you and your conservative friends -- such as Rush Limbaugh and
> > Ambrose Evans-Pritchard -- are correct, the Democratic Party will be
> > blamed for the ongoing struggling economy in the next mid-term
> > election. Perception is everything, John,
>
> We perceive that we were right about the economy and you were wrong.
> All you have left now is bashing Obama.

It was you who titled a thread, "Big government spending programs are
turning out to have the opposite effect." That was immediately after
Rush Limbaugh said the economy was getting worse because of Obama's
policies. You and Rush were in complete agreement when you created
that thread.


>
> >and that's why some of your
> > conservative friends are joining you in wishing for an ongoing
> > struggling economy in 2010.
>
> You're obviously a mad little 4 year-old deep down inside.  I sense
> it's time once again for a hysteria reducing discussion of
> generational alcoholism.

Go ahead, show the readers of the two other groups how mature you are.
Though I'm still not sure why you and Randy think it's appropriate to
inflict readers of other groups with your petty personal hatred for
me.


>
> >If you think the voters are going to look
> > back and blame the party out of power,
>
> They'll vote their pocketbooks like they always do.

That's right. And if you and Rush are right, the Democrats will lose
seats in 2010.


>
> >you don't know your history --
> > which wouldn't surprise me at all.-
>
> I don't put any stock in what a Goebbels clone has to say about
> history one way or another.

You don't have to. Historical election results are what they are. In
1980, the Republicans made big gains in Congress after Jimmy Carter's
disastrous presidency. But they lost seats in 1982 because the economy
was still struggling. If you and Rush are right about Obama making the
economy worse, the Democrats will lose a substantial number of seats
in 2010.


>
> History will show the roots of this going to Wilson and the
> establishment of the Fed.  It certainly involves FDR even Carter
> before Reagan.  It also involves Clinton and one Phil Gramm and a
> Republican controlled Congress.

I can just imagine all the voters who will be pondering every nuance
of that when they go to vote in the next midterm elections.


>
> And of course history will show Shrub's absolute incompetence or shall
> we say cooperation.

I'm absolutely certain that every voter who *hates* Bush as much as
you do will be thinking of that when they go to vote in 2010.

Pers3id

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Jul 9, 2009, 12:28:01 AM7/9/09
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John Lemke <jfl...@locallink.net> wrote in news:6fb488cf-0b90-4096-8183-
7cab13...@p36g2000prn.googlegroups.com:

Well said. Stephen wails and rages that he hasn't the sense god
gave a cabbage. At some level of his conscious thought, he
understands this, and he laments at his own pathetic existence.

Pers3id

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Jul 9, 2009, 12:29:52 AM7/9/09
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John Lemke <jfl...@locallink.net> wrote in news:0a0683ee-44da-4e93-8de4-
dd677d...@v23g2000pro.googlegroups.com:

woofy is getting his marching orders from stephen the not-
so bright ? this is all falling into place..

Pers3id

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Jul 9, 2009, 12:33:03 AM7/9/09
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John Lemke <jfl...@locallink.net> wrote in news:beeab724-8c39-432f-b2d0-
9ee349...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com:


He only voted for him if he shows a modicum of success.. otherwise
he voted for the other guy. It's just much more convenient making
the voting decision after you know how the candidate performed for
4 years.

slinky! slinky! yeah!

Pers3id

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Jul 9, 2009, 12:52:03 AM7/9/09
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Werewolfy <Werew...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:c7af76a4-1e1b-4b7f-b0a4-
269445...@i6g2000yqj.googlegroups.com:

Thank you for confirming my suspicions then. I'll assume the
sales of 100 years old dead bird statues not going so well then
either.. and a daughter being with child (multiple children?)
at the start of 30 year economic depression is not such a
great situation.. if grandpa sugar dies too soon what will
they do for money ? jobs will be scarce, unavailable. don't
die too soon woofy!

Werewolfy

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Jul 9, 2009, 6:19:37 AM7/9/09
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On 9 July, 05:52, Pers3id <pers...@comcast.invalid> wrote:

> Thank you for confirming my suspicions then. I'll assume the
> sales of 100 years old dead bird statues not going so well then
> either.. and a daughter being with child (multiple children?)
> at the start of 30 year economic depression is not such a
> great situation.. if grandpa sugar dies too soon what will
> they do for money ? jobs will be scarce, unavailable. don't
> die too soon woofy!

HO HO HO

Best response to a child in a tantrum.

HO HO HO

Werewolfy

John Lemke

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Jul 9, 2009, 7:38:27 AM7/9/09
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On Jul 9, 4:29 am, Pers3id <pers...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
> John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote in news:0a0683ee-44da-4e93-8de4-
> dd677d149...@v23g2000pro.googlegroups.com:

>
> > It's a mistake you make a lot nowadays.  Maybe your mentor can help
> > you with that also.
>
> woofy is getting his marching orders from stephen the not-
> so bright ? this is all falling into place.

The Danielle game had me busting a gut here.

John Lemke

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Jul 9, 2009, 7:50:27 AM7/9/09
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On Jul 9, 4:28 am, Pers3id <pers...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
> John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote in news:6fb488cf-0b90-4096-8183-
> 7cab13a6c...@p36g2000prn.googlegroups.com:

>
> > Dream on Josef.  I suspect that Planet Douglas is about to experience
> > another occlusive dust storm.
>
> Well said. Stephen wails and rages that he hasn't the sense god
> gave a cabbage. At some level of his conscious thought, he
> understands this, and he laments at his own pathetic existence.

Constantly building little sandcastles on the beach. Little pail and
shovel in hand he imagines himself a king creating and manipulating
the world. It's a world based in imagery created by a repressed and
abused ego that needs it's drama played out in "public".
"Masterfully" employing hand me down tricks of rhetoric, cognitive
leaps, inventive and leading accusation, a Joe McCarthy style
accusation that ultimately causes people to be repulsed and bored to
tears by such a pathetic existence.

Before long the tide will wash his creations away. Him along with it.

Werewolfy

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Jul 9, 2009, 8:07:07 AM7/9/09
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On 9 July, 12:38, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

"The Danielle game had me busting a gut here."

I'll tell my daughter you find her amusing. Perhaps she will suffer
yet more depresive and black sadness, similar to that after her
aborting a child, and repeat her messy yet determined attempt to end
her life.

'Christian' John....

Oh no. Nothing 'Christian', or even Human about you Sunshine.

Werewolfy

Werewolfy

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Jul 9, 2009, 8:24:25 AM7/9/09
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On 9 July, 12:38, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

"The Danielle game had me busting a gut here."

This remark is revealing.

You make my daughter into the subject of a 'game'? It makes you laugh
a lot?

True colours, 'Christian' John. True colours.

There for all to see. so, you 'enjoy' taunting to elicit a response,
hoping that reponse to be an angry one.

I'll satisfy your 'need' then.

IF I COULD GET MY HANDS ON YOU RIGHT NOW, I WOULD BREAK YOUR FUCKING
NECK.

Werewolfy

Steven Douglas

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Jul 9, 2009, 8:43:13 AM7/9/09
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On Jul 8, 9:52 pm, Pers3id <pers...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
>
> Thank you for confirming my suspicions then. I'll assume the
> sales of 100 years old dead bird statues not going so well then
> either.. and a daughter being with child (multiple children?)
> at the start of 30 year economic depression is not such a
> great situation.. if grandpa sugar dies too soon what will
> they do for money ? jobs will be scarce, unavailable. don't
> die too soon woofy!

You must have missed the newspaper article that was posted here,
showing Ricky's daughter is an educated and successful young woman in
her own right. Do you realize what a detestable human being you are to
write what you wrote above? I'm really starting to wonder why anyone
(other than your childish think-alike, John) has anything to do with
you on this group. Other than copying and pasting economic articles,
some of which contradict each other, all you do here is make personal
attacks on posters you don't like. Grow up, Randy.

Steven Douglas

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Jul 9, 2009, 8:49:08 AM7/9/09
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John has to be the biggest "Christian" hypocrite I've encountered in
quite some time. First, he said this about me:

[quoting John] "People who come out and push someone bravely fighting
alcoholism and PTSD to the point of said recovering alcoholic getting
seriously exasperated and spewing violent rhetoric on several
occasions and do it in order to find "entertainment" deserve
derision." [end quote]

But John laughs and giggles with his childish think-alike, Randy, as
they purposely provoke and taunt you. So, according to John's own
standards (as quoted above), John and Randy deserve derision.
Unfortunately, what they'll continue to get from a few dwindling
members of this group is jovial kinship. It's a real shame they're
given that kind of respect by anyone.

John Lemke

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Jul 9, 2009, 8:49:14 AM7/9/09
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On Jul 9, 12:24 pm, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
> You make my daughter into the subject of a 'game'? It makes you laugh
> a lot?

Bullshit, you and Stevie made it a game. The two of you together
aren't smart enough to lead each other in out of the rain.

Steven Douglas

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Jul 9, 2009, 8:50:59 AM7/9/09
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On Jul 9, 5:49 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
>
> On Jul 9, 12:24 pm, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > You make my daughter into the subject of a 'game'? It makes you laugh
> > a lot?
>
> Bullshit, you and Stevie made it a game.

What are you talking about? Seriously, explain that if you can.

Dani

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:39:00 AM7/9/09
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Oh no you don't! I've tried to stay out of this but I can't
anymore...not after you brought Danielle into it.

I've watched this since the beginning and I know the
real reason you decided not to be "friends" with Ricky
anymore. Just as a child would, you saw that he was
getting along fine with Steven and that was enough for
you to turn your back.

If that wasn't enough, now you want to bring his daughter
into this?? Bullshit! You're not doing this, John. That is
way below the belt and way un-called for.

You better stop and think about where the fuck you're
willing to go with this before you continue.

Dani

Werewolfy

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:41:05 AM7/9/09
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On 9 July, 13:49, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

> Bullshit, you and Stevie made it a game. The two of you together
> aren't smart enough to lead each other in out of the rain.


Your mesage about the 'game' with my daughter and your merriment was
quite clear. Your response above has nothing to do with anything
whatsoever.

Despicable 'Christian'.

Werewolfy

Werewolfy

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:47:58 AM7/9/09
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Thanks Dani.

If the man wishes to taunt me, then so be it. But making a game about
my daughter is something else again.
I know one thing for certain. He would never say such a thing to my
face. If he ever did, he would never say anything else...ever.

Werewolfy

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:57:25 AM7/9/09
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On 9 July, 13:49, Steven Douglas <steven.doug...@rocketmail.com>
wrote:

> John has to be the biggest "Christian" hypocrite I've encountered in
> quite some time. First, he said this about me:
>
> [quoting John] "People who come out and push someone bravely fighting
> alcoholism and PTSD to the point of said recovering alcoholic getting
> seriously exasperated and spewing violent rhetoric on several
> occasions and do it in order to find "entertainment" deserve
> derision." [end quote]
>
> But John laughs and giggles with his childish think-alike, Randy, as
> they purposely provoke and taunt you. So, according to John's own
> standards (as quoted above), John and Randy deserve derision.
> Unfortunately, what they'll continue to get from a few dwindling
> members of this group is jovial kinship. It's a real shame they're
> given that kind of respect by anyone.

I saw what they were like, how childish they had become and how unfair
and twisting both posted against you, Steven.
I saw your points and your style of explanations. They were adult
posts.

You have encapsulated the entire Randy/John idiocy in your two posts
above. Every word is accurate. Every word is a true reflection of
their characters. Even Mike, impish as he is, realised how wrong these
two were and stated so, stated how he wanted to 'do what I had done'.
Now he no longer posts due to their foolishness.

Well, foolishness has now become sheer nastiness. Their true colours
are exposed for all to see.

Despicable is the word that comes to mind.

Werewolfy

Dani

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Jul 9, 2009, 12:43:36 PM7/9/09
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You're right, Ricky, and he wouldn't say it to your face.

I'm sorry he and Randy "went there" with you .. :(

Just no class or tact whatsoever.

Cheers,

Dani

Werewolfy

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Jul 9, 2009, 2:47:21 PM7/9/09
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On 9 July, 17:43, Dani <purplewildflo...@live.com> wrote:

> You're right, Ricky, and he wouldn't say it to your face.
>
> I'm sorry he and Randy "went there" with you .. :(
>
> Just no class or tact whatsoever.
>
> Cheers,


Cheers to you, too, Dani.

I needed calming...Thank you, and Steven too. Oddly enough it's
Madison (Danielle's eldest) birthday today. She is four. Time passes
so quickly.
She told me this afternoon how much today means to her, and right now
she is having a Birthday party in her flat. A very young woman with
three children, going through a divorce after as awkward and difficult
teen-age period imaginable. Yet a young woman who learned this week
that she has passed her Degree in Law...may now be addresed as
'Maitre'...about the most difficult Degree to obtain in France.

Not enough for Danielle, she still want's me to be proud of her, and
her high marks are good enough for her to be accepted for a further
three/six year course in order to become a Judge d'Instruction.

In legal terms, that's about as powerful a position as one could wish
for. I do no more than keep a distant watchful eye on her. She does
everything to live up to my standards, and I am proud when she tells
me that she is driven to succeed in life only through my example

I am as protective of her now, as I was when she was a vulnerable four
year old herself.

She has done this all by herself...and I am as proud as any father
could ever be.

Thanks again...both of you.

Ricky


Pers3id

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Jul 9, 2009, 7:55:53 PM7/9/09
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John Lemke <jfl...@locallink.net> wrote in news:f55c4b95-e32f-464a-8836-
0b5800...@l5g2000pra.googlegroups.com:


I don't suspect woofy is looking for real discourse at this point.
He just needs to be quickened once more by the thrill of
antagonism and violence. It is after all the only thing he has
left which makes him know he's still alive. To put it more
succinctly, he is preying on people to quicken his senses just
one last time before he draws his last gulp of air... sort of like
a vampire. Ever notice how he'll accost a complete stranger, insult
them, and then almost immediately threaten them with violence ?
I wonder if he is posting from a jail cell or a mental hospital
right now.

John Lemke

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Jul 9, 2009, 8:02:55 PM7/9/09
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On Jul 9, 2:39 pm, Dani <purplewildflo...@live.com> wrote:
> On Jul 9, 8:49 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

>
> > Bullshit, you and Stevie made it a game. The two of you together
> > aren't smart enough to lead each other in out of the rain.
>
> Oh no you don't!  I've tried to stay out of this but I can't
> anymore...not after you brought Danielle into it.

How did I bring Danielle into it? Precisely how? Exactly what was
said beyond that a game about Danielle made me laugh?

You should have held off on this a bit, darlin'.

What I'm referencing has nothing to do with what Randy posted.

What I was refering to was the trolling our two friends were trying
around the time of the article about her. That's the game I was
refering to.

>
> I've watched this since the beginning and I know the
> real reason you decided not to be "friends" with Ricky
> anymore.

Ricky and I have had a couple of lovely exchanges of late. I have no
longterm animosity toward anyone here, that should be clear from those
very exchanges.

>Just as a child would, you saw that he was
> getting along fine with Steven and that was enough for
> you to turn your back.

Actually I had no real problem with Ricky vis a vie Steven. Ricky was
rather critical of me after his repentance. I let it slide for
awhile. Got curious about him being able to take it in return. You
know how the story goes. People pound on each other for awhile. It's
interesting to see what comes out of it. Did you notice how Ricky
held his temper at bay? Did you notice how I complimented him on
that?

>
> If that wasn't enough, now you want to bring his daughter
> into this??  Bullshit!  You're not doing this, John.  

You're exactly right, I'm not. I perceived them playing a game around
the time the article came out. It made me laugh heartily. That's what
I was refering to.

>That is
> way below the belt and way un-called for.

I guess you might be right about that if I had done something below
the belt.

>
> You better stop and think about where the fuck you're
> willing to go with this before you continue.

Stop and consider the other side of the story.

When you have people as excitable as Stevie and Ricky seem to be the
simplest misunderstanding can get blown way out of proportion.

Hope all is well with you.

John Lemke

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Jul 9, 2009, 8:09:05 PM7/9/09
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On Jul 9, 11:55 pm, Pers3id <pers...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
> John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote in news:f55c4b95-e32f-464a-8836-
> 0b580062d...@l5g2000pra.googlegroups.com:

>
> > On Jul 9, 12:24 pm, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> You make my daughter into the subject of a 'game'? It makes you laugh
> >> a lot?
>
> > Bullshit, you and Stevie made it a game. The two of you together
> > aren't smart enough to lead each other in out of the rain.
>
> I don't suspect woofy is looking for real discourse at this point.

They don't have a clue about what they're looking at. More trolling,
more games.

> He just needs to be quickened once more by the thrill of
> antagonism and violence.

And he HAD been doing so well.

>It is after all the only thing he has
> left which makes him know he's still alive. To put it more
> succinctly, he is preying on people to quicken his senses just
> one last time before he draws his last gulp of air... sort of like
> a vampire.

Hopefully in just a usenet context, tho. :-)

>Ever notice how he'll accost a complete stranger, insult
> them, and then almost immediately threaten them with violence ?

He's trying to learn something new in his retirement. Practice a new
skill and such. He's been learning a lot of things out here.

> I wonder if he is posting from a jail cell or a mental hospital
> right now.

I think he's posting from a soap opera. :-)

Steven Douglas

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Jul 9, 2009, 8:13:44 PM7/9/09
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I'm waiting for his explanation of what he thinks his statement is
supposed to mean. But he won't. He'll run away and ignore this, as if
it never happened, because he's a complete punk.
>
> Despicable 'Christian'.

It's a real shame.

Steven Douglas

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Jul 9, 2009, 8:17:42 PM7/9/09
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Especially since it's based on Randy's ignorance of your daughter's
accomplishments, which the little giggling punk John then joined.
Despicable is the right word.

Steven Douglas

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Jul 9, 2009, 8:22:27 PM7/9/09
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On Jul 9, 5:02 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
>
> On Jul 9, 2:39 pm, Dani <purplewildflo...@live.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 9, 8:49 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
>
> > > Bullshit, you and Stevie made it a game. The two of you together
> > > aren't smart enough to lead each other in out of the rain.
>
> > Oh no you don't!  I've tried to stay out of this but I can't
> > anymore...not after you brought Danielle into it.
>
> How did I bring Danielle into it? Precisely how?  Exactly what was
> said beyond that a game about Danielle made me laugh?

Explain my part in this, John. Of course you won't, because you're a
complete punk.

Werewolfy

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Jul 9, 2009, 9:22:53 PM7/9/09
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On 10 July, 01:02, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

"I perceived them playing a game around the time the article came out.
�It made me laugh heartily. That's what I was refering to."

You are insane.

I have never 'played a game' with Steven as my accomplice. Never in
any manner, shape or form.

Tell me, exactly what it was that you 'perceived?' You have been
'laughing heartily' at nothing. There is no game, and nothing to laugh
heartily about.

Your post showed you for what you are...you and your moronic retarded
friend. There is no 'escape clause' for you on this. Your intention is
clear, your 'hearty laughter' in the worst of taste.

Werewolfy

Steven Douglas

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Jul 9, 2009, 9:46:24 PM7/9/09
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On Jul 9, 6:22 pm, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> On 10 July, 01:02, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
>
> "I perceived them playing a game around the time the article came out.
> It made me laugh heartily. That's what I was refering to."
>
> You are insane.
>
> I have never 'played a game' with Steven as my accomplice. Never in
> any manner, shape or form.
>
> Tell me, exactly what it was that you 'perceived?' You have been
> 'laughing heartily' at nothing. There is no game, and nothing to laugh
> heartily about.

But then he's always demonstrated his overactive (and childish)
imagination. I'd really like to see an explanation from him, but then
he's also demonstrated that he's a weasel, and he'll just run away.


>
> Your post showed you for what you are...you and your moronic retarded
> friend. There is no 'escape clause' for you on this. Your intention is
> clear, your 'hearty laughter' in the worst of taste.

How anyone can take John and Randy seriously is beyond me. Yet some
do. It amazes me.

John Lemke

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:11:53 PM7/9/09
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On Jul 10, 1:22 am, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 10 July, 01:02, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
>
> "I perceived them playing a game around the time the article came out.
> It made me laugh heartily. That's what I was refering to."
>
> You are insane

You mean like a Polish Newsreader?


.
>
> I have never 'played a game' with Steven as my accomplice. Never in
> any manner, shape or form.

Bwahhahahahahaha.

Flail away, Ricky. Flail away............


Werewolfy

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:19:43 PM7/9/09
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On 10 July, 03:11, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

> > I have never 'played a game' with Steven as my accomplice. Never in
> > any manner, shape or form.
>
> Bwahhahahahahaha.
>
> Flail away, Ricky. �Flail away............

What part of, "Tell me, exactly what it was that you 'perceived?' You


have been
'laughing heartily' at nothing. There is no game, and nothing to
laugh

heartily about." did you fail to understand?

Werewolfy


Werewolfy

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:25:02 PM7/9/09
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On 10 July, 03:19, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

'Perceived'.

Well. Let us all know. What is so amusing. What is the joke? What did
you 'perceive'.

Steven has asked you a similar question.

What is the oh-so-funny 'game' about my daughter?

Werewolfy

Steven Douglas

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:25:14 PM7/9/09
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You really are insane. The flailing is all yours, John. Stop being a
weasel and explain what you mean. Show a post from the archives. Do
something other than just be a weasel. But then maybe you can't. Maybe
being a weasel comes naturally to you, and you feel no need to ever
explain your weasely actions. Yeah, that must be it.

John Lemke

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:26:15 PM7/9/09
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Completely. I'll post what I please. I said nothing then. Perhaps
I'll say nothing now.

As for evidence of anything untoward done vis a vie Danielle, there is
none.

Perhaps I'll just let you two little boys continue to get hysterical
over nothing.

Flail away, boys, flail away.

Steven Douglas

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:28:21 PM7/9/09
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Weasel. You included me in something that could have only come from
your imagination, and now you refuse to clarify it. You really are a
weasel, John. And a punk.

Werewolfy

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:29:09 PM7/9/09
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On 10 July, 03:26, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

> Completely. �I'll post what I please. I said nothing then. �Perhaps
> I'll say nothing now.
>
> As for evidence of anything untoward done vis a vie Danielle, there is
> none.
>
> Perhaps I'll just let you two little boys continue to get hysterical
> over nothing.
>
> Flail away, boys, �flail away

Yes. That seem about the expected 'answer'. No more need be said. Your
guilt is written in capital letters.

Despicable.

Werewolfy

John Lemke

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:30:13 PM7/9/09
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On Jul 10, 2:28 am, Steven Douglas <steven.doug...@rocketmail.com>
wrote:

And you're a bloody maggot trying to make something out of nothing yet
again.

Steven Douglas

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:33:48 PM7/9/09
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No, punk, I want to know why you included me in your laughter at
Randy's *lies* about Ricky's daughter. Explain my part in this,
weasel. Or prove yourself to be the weasel you've always been, you
puny little punk.

Werewolfy

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:36:47 PM7/9/09
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On 10 July, 03:30, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

> And you're a bloody maggot trying to make something out of nothing yet

> again.-

Then EXPLAIN your 'PERCEIVED' then. Justify your innocence.

No...that can't be done. Just back-pedalling, knowing you have stepped
onto quicksand, and trying to escape.

Laugh heartily, Christian John Lemke. Laugh at my daughter. Laugh at
the Moon. Play your childish games.

Pray we never meet one-another.

Werewolfy

John Lemke

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:37:05 PM7/9/09
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Guilty of exactly what, Ricky?

And here we have you and your little buddy making a huge deal over
absolutley nothing. Hysteria is most unbecoming of you.

:-)

Werewolfy

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:41:17 PM7/9/09
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On 10 July, 03:37, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

"Guilty of exactly what, Ricky?"

That stupid smile symbol means nothing to me. You ask, 'of what?'

Read Dani's post again.

Your reply to her was a typical attempt at whitewash. Guilty, John
Lemke.

Werewolfy


Steven Douglas

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:42:09 PM7/9/09
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On Jul 9, 7:37 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
>
> On Jul 10, 2:29 am, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > On 10 July, 03:26, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
>
> > Yes. That seem about the expected 'answer'. No more need be said. Your
> > guilt is written in capital letters.
>
> Guilty of exactly what, Ricky?
>
> And here we have you and your little buddy making a huge deal over
> absolutley nothing.

Why is this so difficult for you, weasel? I'd like you to explain my
part in your laughter, punk. But you won't, will you punk? Do you
think everyone reading this can't see your little game, punk? Just
explain my part in this, weasel. It really shouldn't be this
difficult, and it wouldn't be for a person with a shred of honor. But
then you have no honor. You're a weasel and a punk.

John Lemke

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:44:27 PM7/9/09
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Guilty of what? What offense against Danielle, exactly, got you and
your little buddy Slinky so hysterical?

Steven Douglas

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:47:00 PM7/9/09
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It's that you were laughing at Randy's lies, weasel. But right now I'd
like to know why you included me in your laughter, weasel. Can you
understand why I'd like to know that? Is it really that difficult for
your brain to comprehend? Just explain it, so I'll know what you were
talking about, weasel.

Werewolfy

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:53:00 PM7/9/09
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On 10 July, 03:44, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

> Guilty of what? �What offense against Danielle, exactly, got you and
> your little buddy Slinky so hysterical?

On Jul 9, 4:29 am, Pers3id <pers...@comcast.invalid> wrote:


> John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote in news:0a0683ee-44da-4e93-8de4-
> dd677d149...@v23g2000pro.googlegroups.com:

> > It's a mistake you make a lot nowadays. Maybe your mentor can help
> > you with that also.


> woofy is getting his marching orders from stephen the not-
> so bright ? this is all falling into place.

The Danielle game had me busting a gut here.

John Lemke

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:56:05 PM7/9/09
to
On Jul 10, 2:47 am, Steven Douglas <steven.doug...@rocketmail.com>
wrote:

> On Jul 9, 7:44 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 10, 2:41 am, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > On 10 July, 03:37, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
>
> > > "Guilty of exactly what, Ricky?"
>
> > > That stupid smile symbol means nothing to me. You ask, 'of what?'
>
> > > Read Dani's post again.
>
> > > Your reply to her was a typical attempt at whitewash. Guilty, John
> > > Lemke.
>
> > > Werewolfy
>
> > Guilty of what?  What offense against Danielle, exactly, got you and
> > your little buddy Slinky so hysterical?
>
> It's that you were laughing at Randy's lies, weasel.

Laughing because he said Ricky was getting his marching orders from
Slinky the not so bright?

Where's the like, maggot?

>But right now I'd
> like to know why you included me in your laughter, weasel. Can you
> understand why I'd like to know that? Is it really that difficult for
> your brain to comprehend? Just explain it, so I'll know what you were
> talking about, weasel

Oh my God, did someone make unwarranted accusations on APN? Against
Slinky? That's his job.

Imagine that, on this newsgroup.

Someone suggested that someone else was playing a little trolling game
and someone is getting terribly upset.

What is the world coming to?

Werewolfy

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:56:43 PM7/9/09
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On 9 July, 05:52, Pers3id <pers...@comcast.invalid> wrote:


> Thank you for confirming my suspicions then. I'll assume the
> sales of 100 years old dead bird statues not going so well then
> either.. and a daughter being with child (multiple children?)
> at the start of 30 year economic depression is not such a
> great situation.. if grandpa sugar dies too soon what will
> they do for money ? jobs will be scarce, unavailable. don't
> die too soon woofy!

For your short memory.

Steven Douglas

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:57:29 PM7/9/09
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On Jul 9, 7:44 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
>

You really can't understand why Randy's lies about Danielle would make
Ricky angry? But then you amplified it by laughing about it, and you
can't understand why that would make Ricky angry? But then you went on
to include me in your laughter, and I asked you to explain my part in
this. But you refused in your typically weaselly way, so that's why
I'm pressing you on this, weasel. Did I really have to explain that to
you? Sheesh, you really are a punk, weasel.

John Lemke

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Jul 9, 2009, 10:59:47 PM7/9/09
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So? Where's the offense?

Exactly what is your problem? How was she maligned?

Especially when all my laughter was months ago.

Steven Douglas

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Jul 9, 2009, 11:00:26 PM7/9/09
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On Jul 9, 7:56 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
> On Jul 10, 2:47 am, Steven Douglas <steven.doug...@rocketmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 9, 7:44 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 10, 2:41 am, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > On 10 July, 03:37, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
>
> > > > "Guilty of exactly what, Ricky?"
>
> > > > That stupid smile symbol means nothing to me. You ask, 'of what?'
>
> > > > Read Dani's post again.
>
> > > > Your reply to her was a typical attempt at whitewash. Guilty, John
> > > > Lemke.
>
> > > > Werewolfy
>
> > > Guilty of what?  What offense against Danielle, exactly, got you and
> > > your little buddy Slinky so hysterical?
>
> > It's that you were laughing at Randy's lies, weasel.
>
> Laughing because he said Ricky was getting his marching orders from
> Slinky the not so bright?

No, weasel, and you know it was about you laughing at the "Danielle
game" that Randy was playing, weasel.


>
> Where's the like, maggot?

Whatever that means, weasel.


>
> >But right now I'd
> > like to know why you included me in your laughter, weasel. Can you
> > understand why I'd like to know that? Is it really that difficult for
> > your brain to comprehend? Just explain it, so I'll know what you were
> > talking about, weasel
>
> Oh my God, did someone make unwarranted accusations on APN?  Against
> Slinky?  That's his job.

Just explain what you meant, weasel.


>
> Imagine that, on this newsgroup.
>
> Someone suggested that someone else was playing a little trolling game
> and someone is getting terribly upset.

What did you base it on, weasel?


>
> What is the world coming to?

It's pretty sad that someone like you calls himself a Christian.

Pers3id

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Jul 9, 2009, 11:05:42 PM7/9/09
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John Lemke <jfl...@locallink.net> wrote in news:c811ca22-42fb-4a0c-a6a9-
6311de...@d4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:

This is their pathologic need to draw others into their shitty
little world.. some perceived offense followed by the hew and
cry of indignation.. I can understand why woofy has demons and
nightmares, and stevie imagines dark-skinned turbin-wearing
individuals wish to violate his imaginary female friends.

They're coming to take them away ho-ho he-he ha-ha, to the
funny farm, where woofy and slinky can play in the padded
rooms ha-ha he-he!

Werewolfy

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Jul 9, 2009, 11:01:35 PM7/9/09
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On 10 July, 03:56, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

"What is the world coming to?"

More to the point is, 'What have you become'

Steven Douglas

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Jul 9, 2009, 11:03:28 PM7/9/09
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On Jul 9, 8:05 pm, Pers3id <pers...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
>
> John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote
>
> > On Jul 10, 2:29 am, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> On 10 July, 03:26, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
>
> >> Yes. That seem about the expected 'answer'. No more need be said. Your
> >> guilt is written in capital letters.
>
> > Guilty of exactly what, Ricky?
>
> > And here we have you and your little buddy making a huge deal over
> > absolutley nothing. Hysteria is most unbecoming of you.
>
> >:-)
>
> This is their pathologic need to draw others into their shitty
> little world.. some perceived offense followed by the hew and
> cry of indignation.. I can understand why woofy has demons and
> nightmares, and stevie imagines dark-skinned turbin-wearing
> individuals wish to violate his imaginary female friends.
>
> They're coming to take them away ho-ho he-he ha-ha, to the
> funny farm, where woofy and slinky can play in the padded
> rooms ha-ha he-he!

You poor pathetic jerks can't even see what you've done to yourselves,
can you? First, Randy, you lied about Ricky's daughter. Then John
laughed at your lies, included me in his laughter, and can't
understand why Ricky and I would question him about it. You two are
the absolute scum of the earth. Seriously.

John Lemke

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Jul 9, 2009, 11:03:33 PM7/9/09
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That had absolutley nothing to do with "the Danielle game" I was
referring to. On top of that I've had absolutely nothing negative to
say about your daughter. Ever. Entirely positive.

As a matter fact I remember you thanking for something I did say a
long time ago.

John Lemke

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Jul 9, 2009, 11:04:12 PM7/9/09
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On Jul 10, 2:57 am, Steven Douglas <steven.doug...@rocketmail.com>
wrote:

>


> You really can't understand why Randy's lies about Danielle would make
> Ricky angry? But then you amplified it by laughing about it, and you
> can't understand why that would make Ricky angry?

You're getting hysterical again.

Steven Douglas

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Jul 9, 2009, 11:05:39 PM7/9/09
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Then explain what you did mean, weasel. Why is this so difficult for
you?

John Lemke

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Jul 9, 2009, 11:06:41 PM7/9/09
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You jumped the assumption again. You've spent the day "bent" about
absolutely nothing.

Pers3id

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Jul 9, 2009, 11:13:02 PM7/9/09
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Werewolfy <Werew...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:f2cd2304-8889-4a0b...@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:

That was good advice you had best listen to old man. The coming
economic calamity will devastate young parents, and destroy
many families. The birth and marriage rates declined
precipitously during Great Depression I, and for good reason.
Nobody wants to get caught in a position of choosing to feed
their children or watching them freeze at night. Stay alive
woofy, your daughter and grandchildren will need grandpa
sugar and his money bags.

John Lemke

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Jul 9, 2009, 11:09:27 PM7/9/09
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On Jul 10, 3:05 am, Pers3id <pers...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
> John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote in news:c811ca22-42fb-4a0c-a6a9-
> 6311de5ec...@d4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:

>
> > On Jul 10, 2:29 am, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> On 10 July, 03:26, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
>
> >> Yes. That seem about the expected 'answer'. No more need be said. Your
> >> guilt is written in capital letters.
>
> > Guilty of exactly what, Ricky?
>
> > And here we have you and your little buddy making a huge deal over
> > absolutley nothing. Hysteria is most unbecoming of you.
>
> >:-)
>
> This is their pathologic need to draw others into their shitty
> little world..

Stevie for sure.

>some perceived offense followed by the hew and
> cry of indignation..

And with such passion!!!!

> I can understand why woofy has demons and
> nightmares, and stevie imagines dark-skinned turbin-wearing
> individuals wish to violate his imaginary female friends.
>
> They're coming to take them away ho-ho he-he ha-ha, to the
> funny farm, where woofy and slinky can play in the padded
> rooms ha-ha he-he!

And the day had gotten off to such a great start for them!!!!!!!! :-)

John Lemke

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Jul 9, 2009, 11:11:19 PM7/9/09
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On Jul 10, 3:05 am, Steven Douglas <steven.doug...@rocketmail.com>
wrote:
> you?-

Are you suffering under the pain of an unfair accusation, Slinky?

Pers3id

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Jul 9, 2009, 11:18:48 PM7/9/09
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John Lemke <jfl...@locallink.net> wrote in
news:da08b051-6799-41bf...@24g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:

Slinky has been.. so wronged..

Steven Douglas

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Jul 9, 2009, 11:14:53 PM7/9/09
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On Jul 9, 8:09 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
>
> On Jul 10, 3:05 am, Pers3id <pers...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
>
> > John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote
>
> > > On Jul 10, 2:29 am, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > >> On 10 July, 03:26, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
>
> > >> Yes. That seem about the expected 'answer'. No more need be said. Your
> > >> guilt is written in capital letters.
>
> > > Guilty of exactly what, Ricky?
>
> > > And here we have you and your little buddy making a huge deal over
> > > absolutley nothing. Hysteria is most unbecoming of you.
>
> > >:-)
>
> > This is their pathologic need to draw others into their shitty
> > little world..
>
> Stevie for sure.

No, it was you who included me in your inappropriate laughter, weasel.
And now, just like the weasel you are, you refuse to explain what you
were talking about.


>
> >some perceived offense followed by the hew and
> > cry of indignation..
>
> And with such passion!!!!

No, the word "perceived" was your word, weasel. Then you made a clear
statement about some "game" that included me. I didn't "perceive"
that, weasel. It was your use of the word "perceived" that started all
this, weasel.


>
> > I can understand why woofy has demons and
> > nightmares, and stevie imagines dark-skinned turbin-wearing
> > individuals wish to violate his imaginary female friends.
>
> > They're coming to take them away ho-ho he-he ha-ha, to the
> > funny farm, where woofy and slinky can play in the padded
> > rooms ha-ha he-he!
>
> And the day had gotten off to such a great start for them!!!!!!!!  :-)

I had a great day, weasel. I knew you'd never explain what you were
talking about, so I'm not disappointed. But I'm not going to let you
forget this, because I want to make sure every APN poster knows what a
weasel you are.

John Lemke

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Jul 10, 2009, 7:29:51 AM7/10/09
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On Jul 10, 3:14 am, Steven Douglas <steven.doug...@rocketmail.com>
wrote:

> On Jul 9, 8:09 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

>
> > Stevie for sure.
>
> No, it was you who included me in your inappropriate laughter, weasel.
> And now, just like the weasel you are, you refuse to explain what you
> were talking about.

I'll talk about anything I want, whenever I want.

The problem more than likely is that you were seen thru and you don't
like it.

The problem also is that you're not in contorl of the situation and
you don't like it.

How I respond to trolls is entirely up to me.

John Lemke

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Jul 10, 2009, 7:58:01 AM7/10/09
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On Jul 10, 3:18 am, Pers3id <pers...@comcast.invalid> wrote:

> John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote innews:da08b051-6799-41bf...@24g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Are you suffering under the pain of an unfair accusation, Slinky?
>
> Slinky has been.. so wronged

Ah, well, I love performing public service.

All this is really a tempest in the smallest of teapots. Sometimes it
just takes 500 short posts to make your point. :-)

Best of luck to Danielle. She won't need it, as talented and
motivated as she is.

Steven Douglas

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Jul 10, 2009, 9:02:16 AM7/10/09
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On Jul 10, 4:29 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
>
> On Jul 10, 3:14 am, Steven Douglas <steven.doug...@rocketmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 9, 8:09 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
>
> > > Stevie for sure.
>
> > No, it was you who included me in your inappropriate laughter, weasel.
> > And now, just like the weasel you are, you refuse to explain what you
> > were talking about.
>
> I'll talk about anything I want, whenever I want.
>
> The problem more than likely is that you were seen thru and you don't
> like it.

Seen through? I'd still like to know what you're talking about. You
think everyone else is going to automatically know what you're talking
about, and "see thru" me? There's nothing to "see thru," John. The
only time I ever mentioned Ricky's daughter was to congratulate him
for the way she turned out. Any "game" you "perceived" came strictly
from your warped imagination, weasel. And every reader of APN knows
that.


>
> The problem also is that you're not in contorl of the situation and
> you don't like it.
>
> How I respond to trolls is entirely up to me.

The troll is you, weasel. I know you'll never explain your lies. You
don't have to. Every reader of APN knows you're a lying weasel. That's
all that really matters. Have a nice day, weasel.

Werewolfy

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Jul 10, 2009, 9:17:43 AM7/10/09
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On 10 July, 12:58, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

"Best of luck to Danielle. �She won't need it, as talented and
motivated as she is."

I know exactly what you mean; and it is nothing to do with your
statement above. It also is the opposite to how you 'bust a gut
laughing at the Danielle game'.

Yes; of course you can 'write what you want'. You certainly do that.
You may well 'write what you want, but your 'explanation' is utter
nonsense. An explanation written to appease Dani.

There is no escape clause. You refuse to give a direct answer to
Steven. You compound things by pretending you 'meant something else'.

Your stupid little childish comments and your repartee with the
moronic Randy is destroying this group. Your insane witch hunt against
Steven is without reason and without any moral feeling. You are
incapable of answering a pertinant question on any matter, reducing
any converation into a tantrum of baby talk, jibes and a 'Laurel and
Hardy' exhibition with your pet fool.

That's all you are here for John. That' all that appeal to you and
moronic Randy...make childish jibes.

You've made one to many now.

Coward. Big man killing animals. Big man with big guns. Fucking coward
hiding behind his screen saying, 'I'll write whatever I like'.

Big mouthed ignorant fool who has taken a step too far and does not
have the character to admit his wrong.

Laugh...have fun. This is a dead group now.

Werewolfy

Doc

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Jul 10, 2009, 2:55:56 PM7/10/09
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"Steven Douglas" <steven....@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
news:6fb24f43-7840-470d...@r15g2000pra.googlegroups.com...

You're approaching Jean Guernon's world record of using "weasel" 4,033 times
in one year.


Steven Douglas

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Jul 10, 2009, 7:02:37 PM7/10/09
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On Jul 10, 11:55 am, "Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You're approaching Jean Guernon's world record of using "weasel" 4,033 times
> in one year.

It's an appropriate word for John Lemke, who first made a laughing
statement that I played some "Danielle game" with Ricky; but then when
I questioned him on it, he refused to explain what he meant by it. He
is a lying weasel. But he seems to think everyone else will
automatically know what he meant. So, since you've seen fit to chime
in on this thread, maybe you know what the lying weasel was babbling
about?

Pers3id

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Jul 10, 2009, 7:30:50 PM7/10/09
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John Lemke <jfl...@locallink.net> wrote in
news:76487c35-ebe5-4f60...@b14g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:

> On Jul 10, 3:18�am, Pers3id <pers...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
>> John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote

>> innews:da08b051-6799-41bf-a18b-8
> e67ca...@24g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:


>>
>> > Are you suffering under the pain of an unfair accusation, Slinky?
>>
>> Slinky has been.. so wronged
>
> Ah, well, I love performing public service.
>
> All this is really a tempest in the smallest of teapots. Sometimes it
> just takes 500 short posts to make your point. :-)
>
> Best of luck to Danielle. She won't need it, as talented and
> motivated as she is.


Some people need to fight irregardless of the reason.. slinky
and woofy need to hit the circuit and do a comedy act together..
woofy can affront some stranger in the front row with threats
of physical violence, and slinky can incessantly make irrelevant
comments to justify his position in an argument that he's having
with himself.. it would be a *huge* success..

Steven Douglas

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Jul 10, 2009, 7:42:30 PM7/10/09
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On Jul 10, 4:30 pm, Pers3id <pers...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
>
> Some people need to fight irregardless of the reason..

So why don't you stop, Randy? You started this when you lied about
Ricky's daughter. You can't stop with your childish taunts in another
thread. You are pathetic, Randy, and every APN reader knows it now.

Werewolfy

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Jul 10, 2009, 8:11:34 PM7/10/09
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On 11 July, 00:42, Steven Douglas <steven.doug...@rocketmail.com>
wrote:

"So why don't you stop, Randy?"

He's too stupid to, Steven. He posts to 'impress' his Master,
Christian John.

And that really is the truth of Randy and his messages.

Werewolfy

Doc

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Jul 10, 2009, 9:44:57 PM7/10/09
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"Steven Douglas" <steven....@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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Half the time I don't know what you're babbling about. Maybe we should
review how long you persisted in accusing Letterman of a deliberate swipe at
Willow, and refused to acknowledge you misinterpreted his intention, banging
your head against the walls of APN's asylum until it appeared you'd suffered
irreparable brain damage.
If you want my honest opinion of what I think John was infering, then I will
plainly tell you that he may think you're attempting to ingratiate yourself
into Wolfy's world by feigning a (shared) interest in his daughter's
welfare, when, in actuality, your hidden agenda is to seek allies to help
allevaite your insecurity and strengthen your ailing confidence in a fading
conservatism in the nation. That insecurity has increased since conservatism
has lost at the polls recently, and the nation has moderated its political
and social environment.
You said it yourself: you want, or expect, conservatives to come "back" in
2010.
Wolfy has some conservative elements in his persona that you find a
convenient "lever" to exploit for your own self-serving purposes.
You asked and you've now received...so don't whine.
Doc

John Lemke

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Jul 10, 2009, 10:36:35 PM7/10/09
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On Jul 11, 1:44 am, "Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Half the time I don't know what you're babbling about.

Is it a crime to inspire the deranged among us to babble?

You don't have to argue with or chase Stevie around in circles or
anything. Just riff off on some insignificant bullshit, push a couple
of buttons and let the poor boy spin himself into a frenzy of paranoid
extrapolation and invention.

Have you EVER seen such a pure and total troll get themselves into
such a total twist because they were accused of being a TROLL?

The horror. The horror.

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha

Doc

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Jul 10, 2009, 10:41:59 PM7/10/09
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"John Lemke" <jfl...@locallink.net> wrote in message
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The horror. The horror.

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha

Well, I would expect that it takes a long time for Slinky to get his
underpants off, having to untwist them for several minutes.

Doc ;))~

Steven Douglas

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Jul 10, 2009, 10:44:07 PM7/10/09
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On Jul 10, 5:11 pm, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> On 11 July, 00:42, Steven Douglas <steven.doug...@rocketmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> "So why don't you stop, Randy?"
>
> He's too stupid to, Steven. He posts to 'impress' his Master,
> Christian John.

Apparently no one is impressed with Randy's childish taunts. But I
invite anyone who disagrees, including the weasel himself, to express
their admiration for Randy's juvenile taunts.


>
> And that really is the truth of Randy and his messages.

You're right, he's too stupid to stop.

Steven Douglas

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Jul 10, 2009, 10:47:15 PM7/10/09
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On Jul 10, 6:44 pm, "Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "Steven Douglas" <steven.doug...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message

>
> On Jul 10, 11:55 am, "Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > You're approaching Jean Guernon's world record of using "weasel" 4,033
> > times
> > in one year.
>
> It's an appropriate word for John Lemke, who first made a laughing
> statement that I played some "Danielle game" with Ricky; but then when
> I questioned him on it, he refused to explain what he meant by it. He
> is a lying weasel. But he seems to think everyone else will
> automatically know what he meant. So, since you've seen fit to chime
> in on this thread, maybe you know what the lying weasel was babbling
> about?
>
> Half the time I don't know what you're babbling about. Maybe we should
> review how long you persisted in accusing Letterman of a deliberate swipe at
> Willow, and refused to acknowledge you misinterpreted his intention, banging

Letterman said his intent didn't matter, so you can stop defending him
on that point. He apologized, said he would do better in the future,
and that should be the end of it. So you can let it go now, Docko.
Meanwhile, the weasel Lemke has offered no such apology for his
mistake. He just keeps digging the hole he's in deeper and deeper.

John Lemke

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Jul 10, 2009, 10:53:56 PM7/10/09
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I understand. You'd have to come up with that. You and Stevie
invested so much energy in absolutely nothing.

John Lemke

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Jul 10, 2009, 10:57:30 PM7/10/09
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On Jul 10, 11:30 pm, Pers3id <pers...@comcast.invalid> wrote:

>
> > Best of luck to Danielle.  She won't need it, as talented and
> > motivated as she is.
>
> Some people need to fight irregardless of the reason..

Of course, I'd be the last person in the world to know what I'd posted
about.

>slinky
> and woofy need to hit the circuit and do a comedy act together..
> woofy can affront some stranger in the front row with threats
> of physical violence, and slinky can incessantly make irrelevant
> comments to justify his position in an argument that he's having
> with himself.. it would be a *huge* success.

But only in a post apocalyptic comedy store. ;-0

Steven Douglas

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Jul 10, 2009, 11:05:37 PM7/10/09
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On Jul 10, 7:53 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
>
> I understand.  You'd have to come up with that.  You and Stevie
> invested so much energy in absolutely nothing.

No, it was you inventing *something* out of absolutely nothing. And
you did it in your typically weaselly way, smirking snidely about some
surmised "Danielle game" that never happened. No one knows what you're
talking about, weasel. Dani didn't know. Doc doesn't know. Should I
ask some other members of the group if they know? Of course they
won't, because they can't. Unlike you, they don't live in some fantasy
world where you can invent your own reality -- which is what you do on
a regular basis. How pathetic.

Doc

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Jul 10, 2009, 11:11:35 PM7/10/09
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"Steven Douglas" <steven....@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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No, I will not "let it go" to let you off the hook, and that is the chief
reason you want to sweep it aside. It shows your impetuousness, your
immaturity. You assumed, right from the gitgo, that you 'knew' he meant the
younger daughter, yet there was no way for you or anyone to 'know' that. It
was purely a guess. Dave explained that he was sorry he wasn't more careful
in constructing the joke by simply identifying the daughter as Bristol. That
is why he apologized, not as any affirmation of you and your rightwing
reactionaries' assumptions or misinterpretations. It not only shows how
quick you are to jump on someone's seeming "leftist immoralness", baring
your biasedness, but it also startingly displays your usually thinly-veiled
mean-spiritedness -- which you love to charge others with regularly here,
such as me, as you foolishly accused Obama of last December after he
misreferenced a joke about Nancy Reagan.
And, ya know what, you disingenuous side-winding asshole? Today,
rightwingers are having another "picnic" of "moral outrage" assuming that
Obama was looking at, lusting after, the butt of a pretty black woman over
in Africa, in a news video. However, closer inspection reveals that it's yet
another ridiculous misinterpretation, meant to demean the character of a
person the Right Extreme abhors.
You guys are batting 0 these days, striking out with every swing. You'd do
much better to look at your own slimy selves and see that something is
terribly amiss in your behaviors, your personalities.
IOW, take a hard look at your hypocrisies. They're sticking out like hard
constipated turds, stuck halfway over the crapper, as you grunt and groan to
wiggle 'em out and flush them away before they stink up the place.
LOL!!!!
Doc


Steven Douglas

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I don't care if you won't let it go. He apologized, and that's the end
of it, whether you like it or not.
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