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Russian Nuclear Submarine KURSK in Nostradamus Prophecy Foretold both the Sinking & Towing

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Robert B. Egan [aka NostraBOBus]

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The Russian Nuclear Submarine Disaster foretold in a highly detailed
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a Totally Free Listing...go to:

http://www.earthchangestv.com/secure/Predictions/August2001/0801kursk.htm


The towing of the KURSK, part of the prophecy was carried on this site
months before the event took place. Check out the date of the posting
for yourself.

PETER L. ...should we get someone to Archive that prediction ?
Just as you suggeted about the Nostradamus Prophecy regarding the
next POPE to be from Milan, Italy with the name of
[Cardinal] CARLO MARIA MARTINI.

go to: "The "Glory of the Olive," the "Black" Pope Prophecy"

http://www.earthchangestv.com/secure/Predictions/July2001/0711blackpope.htm

Attention: To view the first portion of this Nostradamus Quatrain, GO TO:

The Next Pope to be from Milan, Italy...the initials of "C.M.M." [FREE]

http://www.earthchangestv.com/predict/nostrabobus/March2001/0327name.htm

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>Nostradamus Prophecy currently carried on www.earthchangestv.com
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> but most people simply ignore it.

as posted on www.earthchangestv.com ON AUGUST 1, 2001`

XXXXXXXXXX
August 1 ,2001
Nostradadamus Foretold the Towing of the Russian Nuclear Submarine
Kursk
See Commentary and Analysis of Line Four at the end of article for
specific information on towing the Kursk.]
By Robert "Nosrtrabobus" Egan nostr...@aol.com

This article was carried by Earth Changes T.V., in The Breaking News
section on October 5, 2000. [alt.prophecies.nostradamus viewers,
please note]

Nostradamus Foretold the RUSSIAN KURSK SUBMARINE Disaster in the
Barents Sea, Off Russia's Northern Coast, and the eventual opening of
the chambers for body removal and the towing of the vessel.

As quoted from, "Nostradamus and his Prophecies," by Edgar Leoni.

CENTURY SIX: Quatrain Seven

"Norneigre et Dace, et l'Ile Britannique, Par les unis frères seront
vexés: Le chef Romain issu de sang Gallique Et les copies aux forets
repoussées."

"Norway and Dacia and the British Isle Will be vexed by the united
brothers: The Roman chief sprung from Gallic blood And his forces
hurled back into the forests."

This verse begins with a direct reference to the countries of Britain
and Norway. Please notice the French word, "dace." The word, as such,
does not exist in the French language. However, with the inversion of
the letter, "d," there is THE HIDDEN WORD, "pace."

This can mean, "galloping," or "L E A P I N G," or even the word, "L A
R K."

Another interesting meaning is found in a further DEFINITION of
"LARK," it can also mean, "CAPER." The old French word, "carpe," was
translated into ENGLISH, as "carp," meaning a F I S H.

Also, in modern day terms, a "FISH," can be referring to a TORPEDO.

The sinking of the Kursk has been possibly related to a faulty
TORPEDO.

Then, to deepen the mystery, the very next word in the line of the
verse seem to be, "ISLE," HOWEVER, UPON CLOSE EXAMINATION the "s," Is
absent. It seems to be saying, "AND L' II."

Also, once again, notice the word:

" c a p e r "

The "r," in Nostradamus lettering code, by simple ORTHOGRAPHICS, is
very similar to the straight backed "l," except for a triple thick dot
of ink made in older forms of French writing, where it was placed
almost at the very top of the stem. This leaves the letters, " c a p
e," or with the accepted INVERSION TECNIQUE, used to hide the veiled
meaning, we can arrive back to the original word, "DACE."

In our times, a SUBMARINE is on occasion referred to as a "FISH."
Then, this word, " L A R K, " the code here seems to be "L' ARK,"
meaning the VESSEL, OR BOAT. The term, "LEAPING," IS OF INTEREST ALSO,
AS IT CAN REFER TO A VESSEL THAT HAS BECOME CRIPPLED OR DISABLED.

The recently crippled Russian ["RED"] SUBMARINE, OFF NORWAY, called
the KURSK, is classified as an "O S C A R II" TYPE VESSEL.

The name, "OSCAR," IS DEFINED IN NAME MEANING BOOKS AS:

" L E A P I N G W A R R I O R "

So, we have a VESSEL, A "LEAPING" II SUBMARINE.

The second line of the verse is not all that complicated, as the term,
"par," CAN MEAN, 'DUE TO," or 'by reason of." The second line then
clarifies: "FOR THIS REASON, THE UNITED BROTHERS ARE VEXED," meaning
troubled or upset. I believe THE TERM, "UNITED BROTHERS, meaning those
who are "united" by close BLOOD LINE, SUCH AS:

THE U N I T E D STATES, AND THE U N I T E D KINGDOM [BRITAIN]

The third line of the prophecy unravels when it is observed the
supposed word, "ROMAN," is NOT WRITTEN HERE. Please observe the
spelling:

" R O M A I N "

Please follow closely, the HIDDEN TRUTH LACKS ONLY ONE LETTER, a
typical Nostradamus veiling technique to HIDE THE TRUE MEANING.

The word is:

"R O M P"… once again, in "L E A P I N G" The "leader," in "LEAPING,"
is "SPRUNG," meaning released, or at lest emitted. It ends by saying
"of, or from the GALLEY BLOOD."

"This can also mean the "RED" [=BLOOD] BOAT, OR VESSEL, MEANING
RUSSIAN.

Please notice the HIDDEN TRUTH IS VEILED IN A MADE UP WORD IN THE LINE
OF THE VERSE:

"… GALLIQUE." THIS MEANS "THE CLUE" IS THE WORD: "G A L L E Y."

Nostradamus seems to be saying the "LEADER" is removed, or better put,
"SPRUNG" from the BOAT'S "RED" BLOOD, CARNAGE, etc.

There is another alternative meaning possibly veiled In the term: "r o
m a i n" chief. The English dictionaries carry the PHONETIC SOUND " R
Ö M " for the English word, "R O O M."

The "New Webster Encyclopedic Dictionary," informs us, the word,
"ROOM," has the same root as LATIN, "R U S," meaning, "country."

The letters, "R U S S" OR "R U S," just happens to be the accepted
dictionary abbreviation for the term:

R U S S I A N The Russian Chief [ = Captain, Leader] is a potential
hidden meaning.

Another major clue is possibly hidden in line three:

The line closes by saying, "…of blood "g a l l i q u e."

Nostradamus has made up this word, as such, it does not exist.
However, when the "L," is remembered to be an abbreviation for the
word, "THE," the following information begins to emerge.

"G a l l i q u e," becomes:

The " G a " + The " i q u e "

In hidden word meanings, or names, certain letters can
ORTHOGRAPHICALLY, be inverted such as the "U," to an "n," and the "q,"
to a "d." Also, in French, the letter " i " can have the same value as
a "y."

The letters appearing, then become:

[removing "the's"] "G a y d n e" The name of the Captain of the
Russian Submarine KURSK was:

G e n n a d y L y a c h i n

The letters "G A Y D N E," when rearranged, spell:

G E N A D Y

[Name identification information often lists various spellings of a
similar nature for basically the same name.]

For better comprehension and ability to follow the verses meaning,
LINE FOUR IS BEING GIVEN AGAIN.

Line Four: [end]

"Et les copies aux forets repoussées." "And his forces hurled back
into the forests."

Nostradamus often saved his most convincing and detailed information
for the FINAL FOURTH LINE OF THE QUATRAIN.

This will prove to be no exception.

The last line is somewhat simple, but very tragic. Nostradamus foresaw
"his forces," meaning the military men under the command of the
RUSSIAN SUBMARINE KURSK CAPTAIN "GENNADY" LYACHIN , "HURLED," back
into the "FORESTS."

Of course, on the surface, the first reading, this is what it appears
to say. However, a close examination for hidden meanings gives
stunning information.

First, the LATIN WORD, "copies," appears in the French text, meaning,
"forces."

The question of course:

What forces?

Can the "forces" be identified?

Why did Nostradamus suddenly revert to a LATIN WORD: "C O P I E S ?"

Could this supposed Nostradamus verse just be too vague for exact
identification?

Admittedly, we seem to have little information. Once again, basic word
research begins to unravel the coded mysteries locked into the very
words of the verse itself.

What you are about to see has been veiled for hundreds of years,
waiting for the reality of the event to transpire into current
history.

The verse is supposedly about the crippled ["LEAPING WARRIOR"] = the
meaning of the word, "OSCAR ."

The Sub was an "OSCAR II" CLASS SUB.

A R U S S I A N Submarine named Kursk, assigned to the NORTHERN FLEET
COMMAND.

This is the exacting type of information NOSTRADAMUS would not miss
giving, and indeed, he does.

The official COAT OF ARMS of Russia shows the well known HAMMER AND
SICKLE. Located just above this, are the following letters:

"P C O C P" [the "O" formed letter has a capital "I," formed directly
through the middle of the "O."

Now, compare this to the LATIN WORD:

C O P I E S" meaning "forces" in Latin

We now have the veiled PHONETIC CLUE, THE HIDDEN MEANING REVEALED:

"S E" [see, observe, find] + "C O P I"

Simply, in your mind, place the "I," over the "O."

[Please be reminded, the use of an "s," or "es," on the end of the
word can denote a plural situation.]

One more very major clue is given in Nostradamus' choice of the LATIN
WORD:

"C O P I E S"

Or, "SE" [see, observe, look at], + "P"=INVERTED "q," The PHONETIC
GREEK SOUND FOR QUE, OR CLUE.

The code becomes:

"SEE CLUE:" "C O I" In Russian, the "I," FORMATION is found directly
through the middle of the "O."

THIS MAKES ONLY TWO LETTERS.

THIS IS THE TWO LETTER ENSIGNIA USED ON THE NAVAL UNIFORMS OF THE
NORTHERN RUSSIAN FLEET, INCLUDING THE CREW AND PASSENGERS OF THE
SUBMARINE KURSK.

To continue:

For clarity and easier comprehension, the FOURTH And FINAL line is
being repeated:

Line Four: [end]

"Et les copies aux forets repoussées." "And his forces hurled back
into the forests."

The next two words are "aux," and "forets."

The term "AUX," CAN BE CONSIDERED 'A PART STANDING FOR A WHOLE," the
concept is "aid", "back" or "AUXILLIARY."

The next term is the French word, "forets," this is a veiled reference
to another Old French word, "torete," or even the Middle English word,
"TORET."

Nostradamus has used a look-alike word, except for the first letter.

The word means a "TURRET."

This is defined as a, "T O W E R," in this case the plural is used,

"T O W E R S."

Now, we have the veiled information beginning to clarify, but we need
to understand the very last word in the line of the verse, the word
means to be "repelled."

This has the meaning of being DRIVEN BACK, OR FORCED BACK such as when
a vessel is TOWED, OR USES TUG[s].

The play on the word, "T O W E R S," becomes apparent.

The Russians intend to have the Kursk Submarine moved by "TOWERS."

END… Now...Please, again, check the posting date on earthchangestv
per above.

Peter Lemesurier

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On 20 Jan 2002 09:38:37 -0800, nostra...@aol.com (Robert B. Egan
[aka NostraBOBus]) wrote:

>The Russian Nuclear Submarine Disaster foretold in a highly detailed
>Nostradamus Prophecy currently carried on www.earthchangestv.com
>
>a Totally Free Listing...go to:
>
> http://www.earthchangestv.com/secure/Predictions/August2001/0801kursk.htm
>
>
>The towing of the KURSK, part of the prophecy was carried on this site
>months before the event took place. Check out the date of the posting
>for yourself.
>
>PETER L. ...should we get someone to Archive that prediction ?
> Just as you suggeted about the Nostradamus Prophecy regarding the
> next POPE to be from Milan, Italy with the name of
> [Cardinal] CARLO MARIA MARTINI.

I've no idea. The site is about as free as your 'interpretations' are
reputable.

--
Peter

Peter Lemesurier

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Jan 21, 2002, 5:47:33 AM1/21/02
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On 20 Jan 2002 21:15:15 -0800, nostra...@aol.com (Robert B. Egan
[aka NostraBOBus]) wrote:

>Nostradamus Foretold the RUSSIAN KURSK SUBMARINE Disaster in the
>Barents Sea, Off Russia's Northern Coast, and the eventual opening of
>the chambers for body removal and the towing of the vessel.
>
>As quoted from, "Nostradamus and his Prophecies," by Edgar Leoni.
>
>CENTURY SIX: Quatrain Seven
>
>"Norneigre et Dace, et l'Ile Britannique, Par les unis frères seront
>vexés: Le chef Romain issu de sang Gallique Et les copies aux forets
>repoussées."
>
>"Norway and Dacia and the British Isle Will be vexed by the united
>brothers: The Roman chief sprung from Gallic blood And his forces
>hurled back into the forests."
>
>This verse begins with a direct reference to the countries of Britain
>and Norway. Please notice the French word, "dace." The word, as such,
>does not exist in the French language.

Well, Dacie means 'Dacia', which used to correspond to Romania,
Transylvania and part of Hungary. The structure of the verse doesn't
allow the 'i' at that point in the line -- hence, presumably, the
shortening to 'Dace', which wouldn't be altogether untypical.

> However, with the inversion of
>the letter, "d," there is THE HIDDEN WORD, "pace."

That's right. the whole alleged reference to the Kursk has to be
almost entirely a matter of 'hidden words', and of ignoring the ones
that are actually there.

"I am holding the prophecies hostage and torturing them until they say
what I want them to say."

--
D Luzhenzov Granjur

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