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'We gave you uranium, you repaid us by bombing Belgrade': Putin slams US over nuclear treaties
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Nathan Hale
Oct 20, 2017, 4:41:57 AM10/20/17
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"'We gave you uranium, you repaid us by bombing Belgrade': Putin slams US over
nuclear treaties
Published time: 19 Oct, 2017 21:28
Edited time: 19 Oct, 2017 21:49
Russian President Vladimir Putin (c) Grigoriy Sisoev / Sputnik
Vladimir Putin has criticized the US for failing to keep their end of the
bargain in a host of international disarmament agreements. He says Moscow will
not exit any existing treaties, but promised an "instant, symmetrical response"
if Washington decides to quit first.
'US decided to do away with international law'
Speaking during a Q & A session at the Valdai Discussion Club in Sochi, an
annual meeting with international journalists and Russia experts, Putin began by
recalling the Megatons to Megawatts program, which ran between 1993 and 2013,
and saw Russia downblend enriched uranium from the equivalent of about 20,000 of
its nuclear warheads into low-enriched uranium to be used as fuel by US power
stations.
Putin said that as part of what he called "one of the most effective disarmament
efforts in history," US officials made 170 visits to top secret Russian
facilities, and "set up permanent workplaces in them adorned with American
flags."
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Kosovo independence
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"From the Russian side unprecedented openness and trust were demonstrated," said
Putin, saying that through the 1990s, about 100 US officials were entitled to
carry out surprise inspections of Russian nuclear facilities, as part of
Gorbachev and Yeltsin-era agreements.
"What we got in return is well-known - a complete disregard for our national
interests, support for separatism in the Caucasus, a circumvention of the UN
Security Council, the bombing of Yugoslavia, the invasion of Iraq, and so on.
The US must have seen the state of our nuclear weapons and economy and decided
to do away with international law."
'They have no money for disarmament, but we do?'
Putin said that Washington's hostile policies "are returning the relationship
between the two countries to the 1950s" though noted that at least during the
Cold War "there was at least more mutual respect" between the two superpowers.
A road-mobile Topol missile system (c) Alexandr Kryazhev / Sputnik
"We can't actively participate in several international treaties, because the US
is not doing anything itself. We can't just do it unilaterally," said Putin,
citing the 1993 Chemical Weapons Convention, as an example of the US taking
advantage.
Last month, Russia declared that all its chemical weapons stockpiles had been
disposed of - news that Western media "decided to stay silent on," according to
Putin - while the US has persistently delayed its own destruction schedule, and
now plans to complete the process in 2023 at the earliest.
"We destroyed everything, and then our American partners said - 'Not yet, we
don't have money.' So, they have a dollar printing press, yet they don't have
money. But we, on the other hand, do?" said Putin with heavy sarcasm.
'We will fulfil our obligations'
Putin dated a key point in the breakdown of the post-Soviet world order to the
US decision to withdraw from the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty (ABM) in
2002, during George W. Bush's first term in office, to pave the way for the
construction of the missile defense shield, to which the Kremlin continues to
object vehemently.
"This treaty was the cornerstone of the entire international security framework
in the area of strategic weapons. But despite spending years trying to persuade
our colleagues otherwise, we weren't able to hold our partners inside the
agreement," said Putin.
US President Donald Trump is joined by (L-R) Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, Vice
President Mike Pence, senior advisor Steve Bannon, Communications Director Sean
Spicer and National Security Advisor Michael Flynn as he speaks with Russia's
President Vladimir Putin January 28, 2017 (c) Jonathan Ernst / Reuters
US President Donald Trump has criticized another treaty between Russia and the
US that is still in force - New START. Signed in 2011 through to 2021, it
stipulates that both sides are allowed to have up to 1,550 active nuclear
warheads. Trump called it out as poor Obama-era deal in his campaign, and
reportedly was annoyed with the Russian president for bringing it up in a phone
conversation earlier this year.
"We are hearing that the other side is also not pleased with New START," Putin
said. "We are not going to quit it. Maybe we are ourselves dissatisfied with
certain aspects of it, but there is always an element of compromise. So, we are
going to fulfil our obligations."
'Instant and symmetrical response'
The treaty under the biggest threat is the INF, signed in 1987, which bans land-
based missiles - both nuclear and conventional - with ranges between 500-5,500
km. The US has said that several of the latest Russian rockets violate the
agreement.
US President Ronald Reagan (R) and Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev signing
the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty at the White House, on
December 8 1987 (c) Reuters
Putin bemoaned that by not banning air-based and naval launchers the treaty
allowed a loophole beneficial predominantly to NATO states, and said that it
represented "another case of Russia making unilateral concessions."
"Nonetheless, we are going to comply with its terms providing our partners do
so," Putin said. "If they decide to abandon it, however, our response will be
instant and symmetrical."
'Others talk about nuclear disarmament when they develop newer weapons'
While Putin insisted that Russia "still wants and will pursue" new agreements
with the US to achieve nuclear disarmament, these may be harder to negotiate in
an era of more diverse weapons systems, being produced more states than ever
before.
Russian President Vladimir Putin (c) Grigoriy Sisoev / Sputnik
"Countries' readiness to talk about getting rid of nuclear weapons is in direct
proportion to their advances in other weapons systems," said Putin, noting that
both conventional and high-tech weapons delivered with modern targeting systems
"offer almost as much damage, with far superior accuracy."
"We are carefully monitoring what is happening around the world, just as our own
country is acquiring these non-nuclear weapons system," Putin said." [end quote]
"'We gave you uranium, you repaid us by bombing Belgrade': Putin slams US over
nuclear treaties
Published time: 19 Oct, 2017 21:28
Edited time: 19 Oct, 2017 21:49
Russian President Vladimir Putin (c) Grigoriy Sisoev / Sputnik
Vladimir Putin has criticized the US for failing to keep their end of the
bargain in a host of international disarmament agreements. He says Moscow will
not exit any existing treaties, but promised an "instant, symmetrical response"
if Washington decides to quit first.
'US decided to do away with international law'
Speaking during a Q & A session at the Valdai Discussion Club in Sochi, an
annual meeting with international journalists and Russia experts, Putin began by
recalling the Megatons to Megawatts program, which ran between 1993 and 2013,
and saw Russia downblend enriched uranium from the equivalent of about 20,000 of
its nuclear warheads into low-enriched uranium to be used as fuel by US power
stations.
Putin said that as part of what he called "one of the most effective disarmament
efforts in history," US officials made 170 visits to top secret Russian
facilities, and "set up permanent workplaces in them adorned with American
flags."
READ MORE: Putin on Catalonia: EU triggered rise of separatism by supporting
Kosovo independence
https://www.rt.com/news/407203-eu-separatist-sentiment-kosovo/
"From the Russian side unprecedented openness and trust were demonstrated," said
Putin, saying that through the 1990s, about 100 US officials were entitled to
carry out surprise inspections of Russian nuclear facilities, as part of
Gorbachev and Yeltsin-era agreements.
"What we got in return is well-known - a complete disregard for our national
interests, support for separatism in the Caucasus, a circumvention of the UN
Security Council, the bombing of Yugoslavia, the invasion of Iraq, and so on.
The US must have seen the state of our nuclear weapons and economy and decided
to do away with international law."
'They have no money for disarmament, but we do?'
Putin said that Washington's hostile policies "are returning the relationship
between the two countries to the 1950s" though noted that at least during the
Cold War "there was at least more mutual respect" between the two superpowers.
A road-mobile Topol missile system (c) Alexandr Kryazhev / Sputnik
"We can't actively participate in several international treaties, because the US
is not doing anything itself. We can't just do it unilaterally," said Putin,
citing the 1993 Chemical Weapons Convention, as an example of the US taking
advantage.
Last month, Russia declared that all its chemical weapons stockpiles had been
disposed of - news that Western media "decided to stay silent on," according to
Putin - while the US has persistently delayed its own destruction schedule, and
now plans to complete the process in 2023 at the earliest.
"We destroyed everything, and then our American partners said - 'Not yet, we
don't have money.' So, they have a dollar printing press, yet they don't have
money. But we, on the other hand, do?" said Putin with heavy sarcasm.
'We will fulfil our obligations'
Putin dated a key point in the breakdown of the post-Soviet world order to the
US decision to withdraw from the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty (ABM) in
2002, during George W. Bush's first term in office, to pave the way for the
construction of the missile defense shield, to which the Kremlin continues to
object vehemently.
"This treaty was the cornerstone of the entire international security framework
in the area of strategic weapons. But despite spending years trying to persuade
our colleagues otherwise, we weren't able to hold our partners inside the
agreement," said Putin.
US President Donald Trump is joined by (L-R) Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, Vice
President Mike Pence, senior advisor Steve Bannon, Communications Director Sean
Spicer and National Security Advisor Michael Flynn as he speaks with Russia's
President Vladimir Putin January 28, 2017 (c) Jonathan Ernst / Reuters
US President Donald Trump has criticized another treaty between Russia and the
US that is still in force - New START. Signed in 2011 through to 2021, it
stipulates that both sides are allowed to have up to 1,550 active nuclear
warheads. Trump called it out as poor Obama-era deal in his campaign, and
reportedly was annoyed with the Russian president for bringing it up in a phone
conversation earlier this year.
"We are hearing that the other side is also not pleased with New START," Putin
said. "We are not going to quit it. Maybe we are ourselves dissatisfied with
certain aspects of it, but there is always an element of compromise. So, we are
going to fulfil our obligations."
'Instant and symmetrical response'
The treaty under the biggest threat is the INF, signed in 1987, which bans land-
based missiles - both nuclear and conventional - with ranges between 500-5,500
km. The US has said that several of the latest Russian rockets violate the
agreement.
US President Ronald Reagan (R) and Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev signing
the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty at the White House, on
December 8 1987 (c) Reuters
Putin bemoaned that by not banning air-based and naval launchers the treaty
allowed a loophole beneficial predominantly to NATO states, and said that it
represented "another case of Russia making unilateral concessions."
"Nonetheless, we are going to comply with its terms providing our partners do
so," Putin said. "If they decide to abandon it, however, our response will be
instant and symmetrical."
'Others talk about nuclear disarmament when they develop newer weapons'
While Putin insisted that Russia "still wants and will pursue" new agreements
with the US to achieve nuclear disarmament, these may be harder to negotiate in
an era of more diverse weapons systems, being produced more states than ever
before.
Russian President Vladimir Putin (c) Grigoriy Sisoev / Sputnik
"Countries' readiness to talk about getting rid of nuclear weapons is in direct
proportion to their advances in other weapons systems," said Putin, noting that
both conventional and high-tech weapons delivered with modern targeting systems
"offer almost as much damage, with far superior accuracy."
"We are carefully monitoring what is happening around the world, just as our own
country is acquiring these non-nuclear weapons system," Putin said." [end quote]
JTEM the Great Film Maker
Oct 20, 2017, 1:15:59 PM10/20/17
to
Putin is right and he is wrong.
Putin is right in that the old Soviet Union
fell and the west took advantage of this
fact. It forced Russia into doing things
Russia didn't want to do.
Like giving up the Ukraine. Russia was forced
to. It was desperate, it needed help, they
were suffering a huge backlash/independence
wave and the west made them do it. They were
too weak to say no. But...
That was the E.U.
That was western Europe.
That was the countries still contaminated by
royals.
The Ukraine is the bread basket of Europe. Western
Europe can't feed itself. Period. Only France is
capable of producing enough food to cover it's needs,
the rest of western Europe will starve without
imports. So, snatch up the Ukraine and you're all
set.
...the E.U. wants it's "Lebensraum."
Literally.
So Putin is right in that it went a long way towards
piece, reform & everything else, but he's wrong in
blaming the United States for the back stabbing.
Putin is no idiot. Putin was KGB, he knows how America
works. He knows our government has no mind of it's own,
that it's a slave to the special interest... that Europe
has been manipulating our government for years...
Centuries, even.
Russia didn't invent the Let's-Influence-American-Elections
game. They're not even particularly adept at it. And, they
don't want to be. Part of the point here is for them to be
so OVERT, so transparent, forcing our congress to act and in
so doing shutting out western Europe which has been it for
generations...
-- --
http://jtem.tumblr.com/post/166605454908
Putin is right in that the old Soviet Union
fell and the west took advantage of this
fact. It forced Russia into doing things
Russia didn't want to do.
Like giving up the Ukraine. Russia was forced
to. It was desperate, it needed help, they
were suffering a huge backlash/independence
wave and the west made them do it. They were
too weak to say no. But...
That was the E.U.
That was western Europe.
That was the countries still contaminated by
royals.
The Ukraine is the bread basket of Europe. Western
Europe can't feed itself. Period. Only France is
capable of producing enough food to cover it's needs,
the rest of western Europe will starve without
imports. So, snatch up the Ukraine and you're all
set.
...the E.U. wants it's "Lebensraum."
Literally.
So Putin is right in that it went a long way towards
piece, reform & everything else, but he's wrong in
blaming the United States for the back stabbing.
Putin is no idiot. Putin was KGB, he knows how America
works. He knows our government has no mind of it's own,
that it's a slave to the special interest... that Europe
has been manipulating our government for years...
Centuries, even.
Russia didn't invent the Let's-Influence-American-Elections
game. They're not even particularly adept at it. And, they
don't want to be. Part of the point here is for them to be
so OVERT, so transparent, forcing our congress to act and in
so doing shutting out western Europe which has been it for
generations...
-- --
http://jtem.tumblr.com/post/166605454908
docufo
Oct 28, 2017, 3:36:05 AM10/28/17
to
The nation of Ukraine is NO longer "THE Ukraine" as it was referred to
the old USSR days.
Get up to date and an education, Gramps.
Quote:
“Ukraine is a country,” says William Taylor, who served as the U.S.
ambassador to Ukraine from 2006 to 2009. “The Ukraine is the way the
Russians referred to that part of the country during Soviet times … Now
that it is a country, a nation, and a recognized state, it is just
Ukraine. And it is incorrect to refer to the Ukraine, even though a lot
of people do it.”
http://time.com/12597/the-ukraine-or-ukraine/
^Y^
V
JTEM the Great Film Maker
Oct 28, 2017, 6:38:04 PM10/28/17
to
docufo wrote:
> You insufferable ignoramus!
You're not just stupid, you're as ignorant as the
day is long.
...then you pull down the shade and stay ignorant
all through the night.
> The nation of Ukraine is NO longer "THE Ukraine" as it was referred to
> the old USSR days.
In what way/shape/form you believe this to counter
a single word I said... well... I couldn't care less.
I don't need to know a retards reasoning for saying
retarded things.
Put short: You're not contradicting me, only parading
your lack of reading comprehension. Again.
-- --
http://jtem.tumblr.com/post/166752215818
> You insufferable ignoramus!
You're not just stupid, you're as ignorant as the
day is long.
...then you pull down the shade and stay ignorant
all through the night.
> The nation of Ukraine is NO longer "THE Ukraine" as it was referred to
> the old USSR days.
a single word I said... well... I couldn't care less.
I don't need to know a retards reasoning for saying
retarded things.
Put short: You're not contradicting me, only parading
your lack of reading comprehension. Again.
-- --
http://jtem.tumblr.com/post/166752215818
abook...@yahoo.com
Oct 28, 2017, 7:14:51 PM10/28/17
to
Then liberals stole it. Now the Russians want it back.
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