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Buffalo

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Nov 4, 2009, 12:07:26 PM11/4/09
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Elmer Fudd

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Nov 4, 2009, 5:27:19 PM11/4/09
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Mine is so secure that I am not even going to click on your link from
someone I don't even know.

Buffalo

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Nov 4, 2009, 9:03:16 PM11/4/09
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:)
Buffalo


nob...@nowhere.com

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Nov 6, 2009, 6:42:17 PM11/6/09
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:07:26 -0700, "Buffalo" <Er...@nada.com.invalid>
wrote:

Any computer on the internet can be hacked with enough time and
computing power. The idea behind the usual security precautions is to
make hacking your system too hard to be worth the effort in time and
resources.

Broooz

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Nov 7, 2009, 4:33:29 AM11/7/09
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"Elmer Fudd" <e...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:VcnIm.2439$%j4...@newsfe18.iad...
> Buffalo wrote:

> Mine is so secure that I am not even going to click on your link from
> someone I don't even know.

Me too - so what does the link say?


Buffalo

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Nov 7, 2009, 9:19:35 AM11/7/09
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It says:
"Install your Windows Updates. Update your antivirus software. Scan your
system regularly. Keep religious backups. It's all good advice -- and it's
advice that I give to readers on a near-daily basis.
And maybe it's all meaningless.

MIT researchers are warning that it doesn't matter much what security
measures you take with your computer. If someone wants in, they're getting
in.

The latest concern/attack involves data "leakage," the idea that no matter
how secure your data might be in storage (even if it's encrypted), once it's
in actual use, it's fair game. One area of research involves cached data:
Say you decrypt your secret spreadsheet outlining your plans for world
domination and have it open on your desktop. Other programs running in the
background uses that same working area (the cache) on the machine... and,
coded properly, one such program could relatively easily "steal" what else
is going on in the cache at that time.

A variation on such an attack has been used to break otherwise rock-solid
AES encryption keys. Called "cache timing," the attack determines which
specific portions of a computer's memory are used during a decryption
process, and can rebuild the key -- in seconds -- just by looking at the
pattern of those memory accesses.

Up next: Researchers are investigating whether these attacks can be applied
to so-called cloud computing situations. It's one thing to get a piece of
malicious software installed on your personal computer (where you might find
it easily), but what if you're sharing time on a server on the net?
Attackers could run programs on shared servers that watch the cache on that
server for other people's data. Just watch for busy servers and run your app
when something good is going on, and you're none the wiser... Kind of scary
stuff."

Buffalo


Elmer Fudd

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Nov 7, 2009, 9:48:35 AM11/7/09
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Buffalo wrote:


> Up next: Researchers are investigating whether these attacks can be applied
> to so-called cloud computing situations. It's one thing to get a piece of
> malicious software installed on your personal computer (where you might find
> it easily), but what if you're sharing time on a server on the net?
> Attackers could run programs on shared servers that watch the cache on that
> server for other people's data. Just watch for busy servers and run your app
> when something good is going on, and you're none the wiser... Kind of scary
> stuff."

Yea, and is the reason I will never buy into any cloud computing scheme,
nor would I ever trust my data stored on a remote server on the internet.

On a similar note, lawyers send legal documents via email all the time
with no encryption or anything to secure from prying eyes. And I thought
lawyers were supposed to be smart?

Elmer Fudd

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Nov 7, 2009, 9:49:39 AM11/7/09
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nob...@nowhere.com wrote:

> Any computer on the internet can be hacked with enough time and
> computing power. The idea behind the usual security precautions is to
> make hacking your system too hard to be worth the effort in time and
> resources.

What about corporations that use honey pots?

Leythos

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Nov 7, 2009, 2:55:57 PM11/7/09
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In article <hd3vne$m9i$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Er...@nada.com.invalid says...

> MIT researchers are warning that it doesn't matter much what security
> measures you take with your computer. If someone wants in, they're getting
> in.
>

I completely disagree.

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voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
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Bast

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:23:01 PM11/10/09
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James Morrow wrote:
> In article <MPG.255f9ad5...@us.news.astraweb.com>,
> spam9...@rrohio.com says...


>> In article <hd3vne$m9i$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> Er...@nada.com.invalid says...
>>> MIT researchers are warning that it doesn't matter much what security
>>> measures you take with your computer. If someone wants in, they're
>>> getting in.
>>>
>>
>> I completely disagree.
>>
>

> While no computer system can ever be totally safe it should be
> remembered that thrives don't believe in hard work. They generally
> steal from easy targets. This is no less true in the virtual world than
> the physical world.


Whether anyone actually can get in to your system is not really the issue.
It's what applications they can slip into your system that does the dirty
work for them.

But it's more likely that someone using up to date anti-malware/virus
protection is not going to be as much of a target as someone who uses
nothing, or something so old and out of date it may as well not be there at
all.

.....like that condem you've had in your wallet since 1978.


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Leythos

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Nov 10, 2009, 4:04:10 PM11/10/09
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In article <4afad09a.869546@EBCDIC>, m...@privacy.net says...

>
> Bast wrote:
> >
> >.....like that condem you've had in your wallet since 1978.
>
> Back in high school days it was de rigueur
> to have the ring shape embossed on your wallet. <g>

They never lasted long enough in my wallet for them to create the tell-
tale ring.

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Bast

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Nov 10, 2009, 5:48:36 PM11/10/09
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ASCII wrote:


> Leythos wrote:
>> In article <4afad09a.869546@EBCDIC>, m...@privacy.net says...
>>>
>>> Bast wrote:
>>>>
>>>> .....like that condem you've had in your wallet since 1978.
>>>
>>> Back in high school days it was de rigueur
>>> to have the ring shape embossed on your wallet. <g>
>>
>> They never lasted long enough in my wallet for them to create the tell-
>> tale ring.
>

> We were either brave, reckless, or both and rarely used them,
> but there was always that silhouette of readiness in the wallet.


You know what we used to call people like that ?

.......Daddy


Dustin Cook

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Nov 11, 2009, 8:31:18 PM11/11/09
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ASCII <m...@privacy.net> wrote in news:4afad09a.869546@EBCDIC:

> Bast wrote:
>>
>>.....like that condem you've had in your wallet since 1978.
>

> Back in high school days it was de rigueur
> to have the ring shape embossed on your wallet. <g>
>

Some things never change.. I was born that year.. ;p


--
Dustin Cook [Malware Researcher]
MalwareBytes - http://www.malwarebytes.org
BugHunter - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk

Daffy Duck

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Nov 12, 2009, 12:31:21 AM11/12/09
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ASCII wrote:

> Back in high school days it was de rigueur
> to have the ring shape embossed on your wallet. <g>

Those were for the guys that wanted you to think they were sexually
active but were really jacking off to their bedroom poster of Farah
Fawcett. Those of us that actually got laid didn't go around prepared
for it, that's one of the reasons the girls liked guys like me far
better than the average pimple faced dork. Anyway, sex with condoms is
like fucking a sock.

Andy Walker

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Nov 12, 2009, 7:09:54 AM11/12/09
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Daffy Duck wrote:

>Anyway, sex with condoms is like fucking a sock.

Quickies using condoms are just fleeting moments, but herpes lasts
forever.

Daffy Duck

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Nov 12, 2009, 11:26:19 AM11/12/09
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Andy Walker wrote:

>
> Quickies using condoms are just fleeting moments, but herpes lasts
> forever.

Back in my school days no one had even heard of herpes.

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Andy Walker

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Nov 12, 2009, 6:33:12 PM11/12/09
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Daffy Duck wrote:

I went to HS in the 70's and knew people who had herpes, goneria,
syphilis, chlamydia, etc... but then I lived near a large university
and we used to go to the bars to pull one nighters - if we could find
someone with a car...

Daffy Duck

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Nov 12, 2009, 7:22:18 PM11/12/09
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Andy Walker wrote:

> I went to HS in the 70's and knew people who had herpes, goneria,
> syphilis, chlamydia, etc...

Nice friends you had there. ;) I went to HS in the early '70's and am
fairly certain no one knew of herpes. Gonorrhea, syphilis, yes, but
herpes scare didn't come about until the early 80's.

T.H

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Nov 12, 2009, 9:36:08 PM11/12/09
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I think you should take this portion of this thread to the AV group!

<wink>

-_O

JD

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Nov 13, 2009, 12:16:45 AM11/13/09
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It does sound like a virus question, doesn't it? 8-)

--
JD..

Dustin Cook

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Nov 14, 2009, 2:14:12 AM11/14/09
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JD <J...@example.invalid> wrote in
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Except alt.comp.virus isn't for the discussion of biological ones. It's for
the digital versions. <G>

Andy Walker

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Nov 14, 2009, 10:53:11 AM11/14/09
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Dustin Cook wrote:

>JD <J...@example.invalid> wrote in
>news:kMadnRtJ__wkdmHX...@posted.grandecom:
>
>> T.H wrote:
>>> Daffy Duck wrote:
>>>> Andy Walker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I went to HS in the 70's and knew people who had herpes, goneria,
>>>>> syphilis, chlamydia, etc...
>>>>
>>>> Nice friends you had there. ;) I went to HS in the early '70's and am
>>>> fairly certain no one knew of herpes. Gonorrhea, syphilis, yes, but
>>>> herpes scare didn't come about until the early 80's.
>>> I think you should take this portion of this thread to the AV group!
>>>
>>> <wink>
>>>
>>> -_O
>>
>> It does sound like a virus question, doesn't it? 8-)
>>
>
>Except alt.comp.virus isn't for the discussion of biological ones. It's for
>the digital versions. <G>

A leading cause of virus infection is due to unclean digits.

Lil' Abner

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Nov 14, 2009, 10:34:50 PM11/14/09
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Daffy Duck <D...@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:tE1Lm.14803$Zu5.11372
@newsfe24.iad:

I got the clap in 1956. It cost me $5.
A $2.10 3-pack of abbocillin (for Veterinary puposes only) cured it.
Funny how you can remember "important" shit like that... :-)

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