Yahoo Issues Takedown Notice for Spying Price List
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Yahoo isn't happy that a detailed menu of the spying services it provides law enforcement agencies has leaked onto the web.
Shortly after Threat Level reported this week that Yahoo had blocked the FOIA release of its law enforcement and intelligence price list, someone provided a copy of the company's spying guide to the whistleblower site Cryptome.
The 17-page guide describes Yahoo's data retention policies and the surveillance capabilities it can provide law enforcement, with a pricing list for these services. Cryptome also published lawful data-interception guides for Cox Communications, SBC, Cingular, Nextel, GTE and other telecoms and service providers.
But of all those companies, it appears to be Yahoo's lawyers alone who have issued a DMCA takedown notice to Cryptome demanding the document be removed. Yahoo claims that publication of the document is a copyright violation, and gave Cryptome owner John Young a Thursday deadline for removing the document. So far, Young has refused.
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Article: <http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/yahoo-spy-prices>
DMCA explained here: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMCA>
Silj
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"Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game
because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from
-- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
- Neil Stephenson, _Cryptonomicon_
Wile E. Coyote
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> Yahoo isn't happy that a detailed menu of the spying services it provides law enforcement agencies has leaked onto the web.
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> Shortly after Threat Level reported this week that Yahoo had blocked the FOIA release of its law enforcement and intelligence price list, someone provided a copy of the company's spying guide to the whistleblower site Cryptome.
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> The 17-page guide describes Yahoo's data retention policies and the surveillance capabilities it can provide law enforcement, with a pricing list for these services. Cryptome also published lawful data-interception guides for Cox Communications, SBC, Cingular, Nextel, GTE and other telecoms and service providers.
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> But of all those companies, it appears to be Yahoo's lawyers alone who have issued a DMCA takedown notice to Cryptome demanding the document be removed. Yahoo claims that publication of the document is a copyright violation, and gave Cryptome owner John Young a Thursday deadline for removing the document. So far, Young has refused.
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> Article: <http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/yahoo-spy-prices>
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> DMCA explained here: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMCA>
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> Silj
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again or anything else again. But who else offers to spy on us for
money? Probably all of the fuckers.
Wile E. Coyote
> Whatever you send on someone else's wire
> is only as private as they want it to be.
Not in Canada, we have privacy laws that applies to anyones wire.
If you don't believe me then look up Canadian Gov. telling Facebook to
back off breaking privacy laws. You think your telco company has the
legal right to spy on you because you use their "wire"?
Andy Walker
>Wow, yahoo are now on my shit list and will never use them for email
>again or anything else again. But who else offers to spy on us for
>money? Probably all of the fuckers.
Almost all free services make money on your information.
Andy Walker
LMAO! Do you really believe that a law is going to stop people from
using information you pass through their servers? That would be
extremely naive of you.
siljaline
> Almost all free services make money on your information.
That's fairly definitive.
Dustin Cook
@newsfe03.iad:
The internet doesn't follow laws of any particular country or nation. Once
your data leaves your PC, you have absolutely no guarantee which "wires" in
which country are going to be carrying that information. Basically, your
rights don't apply anywhere except in your country.
--
Dustin Cook [Malware Researcher]
MalwareBytes - http://www.malwarebytes.org
BugHunter - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
Wile E. Coyote
> LMAO! Do you really believe that a law is going to stop people from
> using information you pass through their servers? That would be
> extremely naive of you.
No, I don't but being a pussy and just accepting it does no one any
favours. That would be you, pussy.
Wile E. Coyote
> The internet doesn't follow laws of any particular country or nation. Once
> your data leaves your PC, you have absolutely no guarantee which "wires" in
> which country are going to be carrying that information. Basically, your
> rights don't apply anywhere except in your country.
>
>
That works both ways.
What about that file anyway?
Wile E. Coyote
> Almost all free services make money on your information.
Not if I don't give them any information that is real. See? That's how
naive I am not.
Dustin Cook
The researcher responsible for that sample hasn't reported back yet.
However, it most likely is a false positive and should be cleared up soon.
Dustin Cook
@newsfe21.iad:
Encrypt your data, or just accept the fact that your information isn't any
more private or specially protected than anyone elses.
Andy Walker
Awwww, poor baby. Did I hurt your feeling? Try getting more sleep, you
get too emotional when you haven't had your nappy time.
Wile E. Coyote
> The researcher responsible for that sample hasn't reported back yet.
> However, it most likely is a false positive and should be cleared up soon.
OK, thanks. The problem isn't Malwarebytes so much because I don't have
that running resident. It's Avira that is annoying me every time it
finds that file it nags me about it no matter how many times I tell it
to ignore it. I guess the setting to ignore is not sticking because it
doesn't run with admin rights.
Dustin Cook
The admin rights could be the problem. Alot of programs were designed
before microsoft did the half-ass'd multiple user/admin/non admin stuff
they've done. Now, it just confuses programs and winds up crippling them
if running in non admin mode. I suppose you could blame the apps
developers for it, but I'd like to think Microsoft is party to blame;
Changing the rules midgame, again....
I can't promise our program won't occasionally generate a false positive.
Way too many variables are in play; It's just.. not possible. One reason
is this: you can write (for example, vb..) legit programs in vb, and bad
ones. ALOT of the code for both is going to be the same, internally;
because of the compiler's nature itself. We can't always seperate the
malicious routines from one which isn't malicious, because as I said,
alot of the codebase is going to be the same; it's just how the file i/o
(for example) is being called that seperates the malicious/non malicious
line.
Wile E. Coyote
> The admin rights could be the problem. Alot of programs were designed
> before microsoft did the half-ass'd multiple user/admin/non admin stuff
> they've done. Now, it just confuses programs and winds up crippling them
> if running in non admin mode. I suppose you could blame the apps
> developers for it, but I'd like to think Microsoft is party to blame;
> Changing the rules midgame, again....
>
> I can't promise our program won't occasionally generate a false positive.
> Way too many variables are in play; It's just.. not possible. One reason
> is this: you can write (for example, vb..) legit programs in vb, and bad
> ones. ALOT of the code for both is going to be the same, internally;
> because of the compiler's nature itself. We can't always seperate the
> malicious routines from one which isn't malicious, because as I said,
> alot of the codebase is going to be the same; it's just how the file i/o
> (for example) is being called that seperates the malicious/non malicious
> line.
>
>
Just updated Avira today and now it is giving me a false positive on a
completely different game file that it never did before the update. I
blame the app developers because Vista has been around for a long time
now so there is no excuse for not making an app behave correctly with
Vista/Win7. I will try to run Avira as admin and see if I can make the
ignore this file option stick because if it doesn't then I am not going
to put up with this annoyance for much longer.