Ping Gab re getting a nym list via a.a.m
Fritz Wuehler
Thank you for setting up a nym server and running a remailer!
Why does mail to li...@nym.gabrix.ath.cx having a header Reply-To:
mail2news-20091124-a...@m2n.mixmin.net not cause a
list of nyms to appear in alt.anonymous.messages?
The same mail to li...@nym.mixmin.net does return the list for the
mixmin nym server. See current a.a.m messages
Message-Id: <2009112500555...@www.ecn.org>
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:55:51 +0100 (CET)
Message-Id: <200911250055...@fleegle.mixmin.net>
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:55:58 +0000 (GMT)
Current a.a.m message
Message-Id: <2009112503274...@www.ecn.org>
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:27:44 +0100 (CET)
is evidence that the gabrix request was sent.
What nymserver code are you running? Subroutine reply_hdr in
nymserver.pl revision 1.17 shows that a Reply-To: header in the
request is honored ahead of From:, if present.
Pending resolution of this question, could you please post the current
list of nyms here on a.p.a-s?
For your reference, the mail sent from here was
To: li...@nym.gabrix.ath.cx
Cc: mail2news-20091124-a...@m2n.mixmin.net
From: mail2news-20091124-a...@m2n.mixmin.net
Reply-To: mail2news-20091124-a...@m2n.mixmin.net
Subject: 24b211880374c9cd169196f296fb9bf23d9df03157f28ced
Chain: *,*,cripto
irrelevant
and the mail sent by the exit remailer in the mixmin case (as reported
back in the list response) was
> From mixm...@ecn.org Wed Nov 25 00:55:57 2009
> Return-Path: <mixm...@ecn.org>
> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on fleegle.mixmin.net
> X-Spam-Level:
> X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,TRACKER_ID,
> TVD_SPACE_RATIO autolearn=no version=3.2.5
> X-Original-To: li...@nym.mixmin.net
> Delivered-To: nym...@mixmin.net
> Received: from www.ecn.org (isole.ecn.org [89.96.89.204])
> (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits))
> (No client certificate requested)
> by fleegle.mixmin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F46C81491
> for <li...@nym.mixmin.net>; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:55:57 +0000 (GMT)
> Received: by www.ecn.org (Postfix, from userid 108)
> id EC6C31A7B1D; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:55:51 +0100 (CET)
> From: Anonymous <cri...@ecn.org>
> Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above.
> It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software.
> Please report problems or inappropriate use to the
> remailer administrator at <cripto...@ecn.org>.
> To: li...@nym.mixmin.net
> Cc: mail2news-20091124-a...@m2n.mixmin.net
> Reply-To: mail2news-20091124-a...@m2n.mixmin.net
> Subject: 30c8cfb3714ab405753ea7f2d52d2765146ed65baac87d0e
> Message-Id: <2009112500555...@www.ecn.org>
> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:55:51 +0100 (CET)
>
George Orwell
> mail2news-20091124-a...@m2n.mixmin.net not cause a
> list of nyms to appear in alt.anonymous.messages?
I had a look to nymserv.pl but i have not find any reference to m2n
mixmin net , i'd ask Zax for this .
Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this
non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real
reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an
di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system
Per maggiori informazioni |For more info
https://www.mixmaster.it
Zax
Hash: SHA512
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:43:32 +0100, Fritz Wuehler wrote in
Message-Id: <3d68679da3dce1fc...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>:
> Why does mail to li...@nym.gabrix.ath.cx having a header Reply-To:
> mail2news-20091124-a...@m2n.mixmin.net not cause a
> list of nyms to appear in alt.anonymous.messages?
This is a guess but I suspect something on gabrix is messing with email
headers before it gets delivered to the nymserver script. When Gab was
setting it up, there were problems as the X-Original-To address on
incoming email was wrong.
On nym.mixmin.net, I use a procmail recipe:
RECIPIENT=`formail -x X-Original-To:`
:0
| /crypt/home/nymserv/nymserver.pl -d $RECIPIENT
On nym.gabrix.ath.cx, this didn't work as the X-Original-To was being
rewritten by (I think), a virus scanner. I suspect the same might be
happening to the Reply-To header.
List response is:
3am
admin
azryasow
baal
banlandmines
blackjuju
blackswan
bumble
cloaked
config
confirm
generic_poster
girlfriend
help
joker1
kirk
list
neph
neverwhere
nobody
noddy
nymtst
nymtst2
om
omnimix_user
outcast1
pgp1234
phred
popkin
popkinb
postmaster
remailer-key
root
send
spetznaz
testing04212
testing04560
testing05252
testing07492
testing07615
testing13588
testing13720
testing17783
testing23656
testing24821
testing29050
testing29414
testing30720
testing30810
testing31934
used
ute
white_fang
zax
zippy
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noauth
>> Why does mail to li...@nym.gabrix.ath.cx having a header Reply-To:
>> mail2news-20091124-a...@m2n.mixmin.net not cause a
>> list of nyms to appear in alt.anonymous.messages?
> I had a look to nymserv.pl but i have not find any reference to m2n
> mixmin net , i'd ask Zax for this .
Yes, no reference to m2n mixmin net in nymserv.pl, but Reply-To: is
referenced there, and the supplied Reply-To: references n2n mixmin
net!
Zax
Message-Id: <hejm6o$6qm$1...@news.mixmin.net>:
> I don't have a virus scanner on incoming emails , might this be due to
> spamassassin ???
Hi Gab, possibly it might be, depending on how it's implemented. It's
also possible that I'm completely wrong about the cause. You could
probably test it just by sending yourself an email with a Reply-To
header in it.
Kulin Remailer
Gab <noa...@autistici.org> wrote:
> Zax while puking wrote:
>
> > Hi Gab, possibly it might be, depending on how it's implemented. It's
> > also possible that I'm completely wrong about the cause. You could
> > probably test it just by sending yourself an email with a Reply-To
> > header in it.
>
> Hi!
> I have done what you just said and i haven't noticed any change in the
> Reply-To: header .
Works fine with just a From: header if exit remailer allows a
user supplied From: header.
See 200911252324...@smtp.gabrix.ath.cx
How come the full headers are quoted below the list?
Anonymous Remailer (austria)
Kulin Remailer <rema...@reece.net.au> writes:
> Works fine with just a From: header if exit remailer allows a
> user supplied From: header.
> See 200911252324...@smtp.gabrix.ath.cx
Thanks for that demonstration. Does this shed any light on why kulin
(and maybe frell) doesn't work for agora? Could it be that agora has
kulin blacklisted?
Anonymous Remailer (austria)
Kulin Remailer <rema...@reece.net.au> writes:
> Works fine with just a From: header if exit remailer allows a
> user supplied From: header.
> See 200911252324...@smtp.gabrix.ath.cx
IT DOESN'T WORK!
To verify the above success from here, I sent the following mail:
To: li...@nym.gabrix.ath.cx
Cc: mail2news-20091126-a...@m2n.mixmin.net
From: mail2news-20091126-a...@m2n.mixmin.net
Subject: a25ebcd90c54ce212bb14a756b48d7246a919fa1c895b835
Chain: *,*,kulin
irrelevant
a.a.m message <I8F1GSEX40...@reece.net.au> is proof that it
got through the remailer chain and reached kulin. BUT NO RESPONSE
FROM GABRIX FOLLOWED!
What's going on here?
So to further narrow the difference between the cases (working from
the record in in 200911252324...@smtp.gabrix.ath.cx of what
had been sent in the successful case), I got rid of the Cc: header and
added the "_nospam" to the From: address, and sent
To: li...@nym.gabrix.ath.cx
From: mail2news_nospam-2009112...@m2n.mixmin.net
Subject: 90369e48bcde60b2900728c6bd16c4b60da9ad8396c003d4
Chain: *,*,kulin
irrelevant
Remailers in the chain have excellent stats. No response has showed
up on a.a.m. So I did it a second time, sending
To: li...@nym.gabrix.ath.cx
From: mail2news_nospam-2009112...@m2n.mixmin.net
Subject: 14c8f1209b7f747a2d9d197f12cc58c26b9b683b7babb39a
Chain: *,*,kulin
irrelevant
again through a chain with excellent stats. Still no response.
Does anyone have a clue why?
Reece
Hash: SHA1
In article <e211bc760bde3ede...@remailer.privacy.at>
"Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixm...@remailer.privacy.at>
wrote:
>
>
> Kulin Remailer <rema...@reece.net.au> writes:
>
> > Works fine with just a From: header if exit remailer allows a
> > user supplied From: header.
> > See 200911252324...@smtp.gabrix.ath.cx
>
> IT DOESN'T WORK!
<snip>
> Does anyone have a clue why?
Got me beat.
See 200911271011...@smtp.gabrix.ath.cx and
200911271011...@smtp.gabrix.ath.cx
The headers used are as follows:
From: mail2news_nospam-20091127-alt.privacy.anon-
ser...@m2n.mixmin.net
Chain: *,*,kulin; Copies=2
To: li...@nym.gabrix.ath.cx
Subject: list
and
From: mail2news_nospam-20091127-alt.privacy.anon-
ser...@m2n.gabrix.ath.cx
Chain: *,*,kulin; Copies=2
To: li...@nym.gabrix.ath.cx
Subject: list
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Cheers,
Reece
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Anonymous
> In article <e211bc760bde3ede...@remailer.privacy.at>
> "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixm...@remailer.privacy.at>
> wrote:
>> IT DOESN'T WORK!
>> Does anyone have a clue why?
> Got me beat.
It looks like near-verbatim use of your headers works from here,
though I can't be sure that a.p.a-s Message-Id:
<200911271148...@smtp.gabrix.ath.cx> is my doing.
Experiments continue. I'll report interesting results here.
Pleas say what remailer software you're using and how it's told to
preserve the From: header. I'd like to look at the code.
Do you know where the source code can be obtained?
Reece
Hash: SHA1
In article <2009112721134...@www.ecn.org>
Anonymous <cri...@ecn.org> wrote:
> It looks like near-verbatim use of your headers works from here,
> though I can't be sure that a.p.a-s Message-Id:
> <200911271148...@smtp.gabrix.ath.cx> is my doing.
>
> Experiments continue. I'll report interesting results here.
>
> Pleas say what remailer software you're using and how it's told to
> preserve the From: header. I'd like to look at the code.
>
> Do you know where the source code can be obtained?
I use Reliable (Panta Mod) and Mixmaster 2.0.4b46
Sources available from Panta's website:
https://www.panta-
rhei.eu.org/downloads/Reliable/orig.%20Reliable/
https://www.panta-rhei.eu.org/downloads/SourceCode/
https://www.panta-rhei.eu.org/downloads/Mixmaster/
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Cheers,
Reece
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