Are you ready to survive Armageddon?
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 3:09 PM, His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the
> Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > If Armageddon is coming with floods, I'm ready. I've got kayaks and
> > canoes.
On Nov 8, 10:24 pm, Doris Ragland <dr4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> good
I also got survival food like for a week or two.
But I'm planning to plant my own banana tree for longer survival.
Finally I bought these survival videos that get you ready for
anything.
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"Survival in the Jungle takes a lot of planning and knowledge. Sorry,
praying doesn't work"
http://webspawner.com/users/bananarevolution
Larry
4b2b-b9c9-c...@l2g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
> I'm getting ready for the Big One. Are you?
>
>
Yes! But she won't be home from Atlanta until Tuesday night....dammit.
The "Big One" is gonna have to wait his turn until sometime Wednesday....
--
Larry
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> "His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic
> 4b2b-b9c9-c5c92501a...@l2g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > I'm getting ready for the Big One. Are you?
>
> Yes! But she won't be home from Atlanta until Tuesday night....dammit.
>
> The "Big One" is gonna have to wait his turn until sometime Wednesday....
>
> --
> Larry
Kidding, you got all the "protection" you need to go in the jungle?
Yap
& Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm getting ready for the Big One. Are you?
You like to join your god, don't you or you are lying?
>
> > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 3:09 PM, His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the
> > Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > If Armageddon is coming with floods, I'm ready. I've got kayaks and
> > > canoes.
>
> On Nov 8, 10:24 pm, Doris Ragland <dr4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > good
>
> I also got survival food like for a week or two.
god.
Now, you wish to survive as human.....you can have it both ways.
>
> But I'm planning to plant my own banana tree for longer survival.
>
> Finally I bought these survival videos that get you ready for
> anything.
>
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Sanity
& Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm getting ready for the Big One. Are you?
>
> > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 3:09 PM, His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the
> > Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > If Armageddon is coming with floods, I'm ready. I've got kayaks and
> > > canoes.
>
> On Nov 8, 10:24 pm, Doris Ragland <dr4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > good
>
> I also got survival food like for a week or two.
"Armageddon tired of all this end of the world talk." - Anon
Scenario: The poles shift (it's happened before) and you see a 1,000
tall wall of water headed your way at over 300 mph; the question is,
"Can you get to your kayak that is packed with survival food and
equipment, get in, and grab your paddle in time?"
My hope is in God, not technology or things.
Peace, Sanity
Tim McGaughy
> On Nov 8, 11:13 pm, "His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I
> & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I'm getting ready for the Big One. Are you?
>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 3:09 PM, His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the
>>> Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> If Armageddon is coming with floods, I'm ready. I've got kayaks and
>>>> canoes.
>> On Nov 8, 10:24 pm, Doris Ragland <dr4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> good
>> I also got survival food like for a week or two.
>
> "Armageddon tired of all this end of the world talk." - Anon
>
> Scenario: The poles shift (it's happened before) and you see a 1,000
> tall wall of water headed your way at over 300 mph;
Eh, no.
When scientists talk about the poles flipping, they are talking about
the magnetic field of the earth, not the physical planet. Periodically,
the magnetic field dies and rebuilds with the magnetic poles reversed.
Occasionally, the poles of the spin axis shift slightly as well, but
that doesn't cause giant floods, either.
Uncle Vic
Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandan...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Finally I bought these survival videos that get you ready for
> anything.
Don't forget to see this. It's prophesy, ya know...
http://www.whowillsurvive2012.com/
(Just like the Harry Potter series has proven to the world that wizards
exist.)
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Christians are like Slinkys. They're boring, but they'll put a smile on
your face when you push them down the stairs.
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
We are training anyway. My girlfriend and I are always training for
the Big O.
I know it will come with a bang but I don't think it'll be that
catastrophic.
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> One fine day in alt.atheism, "His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the
> wrote:
>
> > Finally I bought these survival videos that get you ready for
> > anything.
>
> Don't forget to see this. It's prophesy, ya know...
>
> http://www.whowillsurvive2012.com/
>
> (Just like the Harry Potter series has proven to the world that wizards
> exist.)
>
> --
And the Mayans ain't like the Chrisitians who have been talking about
the end for ever.
These Indians even set a date, so all the Christians are doomed and
the Mayan civilization will come back and decapitated heads will once
more roll down the stairs...
Sanity
"They" don't know that, and neither do you. The Earth's spin wobbles
from time to time, it's called "nutation," just like a toy top
wobbling and then spinning true again. The rock formations around St.
Louis are mostly sedimentary; ergo, the area was under the ocean for a
long time and is likely to be submerged again. The Himalayas are
covered with coral. When the super volcano at Yellowstone blows again
[it's about 30,000 years over due now] it is predicted to bury Omaha
under 1"+ of ash... Get real. When Mother Nature gets t' movin'
either go with the flow, get out of the way, or die. Geology is a
living science.
Peace, Sanity
Sanity
I hope you're right.
Alan Ford
>>> Scenario: The poles shift (it's happened before) and you see a 1,000
>>> tall wall of water headed your way at over 300 mph;
??? The poles shift? What are you, fucking retarded?
>> Eh, no.
>>
>> When scientists talk about the poles flipping, they are talking about
>> the magnetic field of the earth, not the physical planet. Periodically,
>> the magnetic field dies and rebuilds with the magnetic poles reversed.
>>
>> Occasionally, the poles of the spin axis shift slightly as well, but
>> that doesn't cause giant floods, either.
>
> "They" don't know that, and neither do you.
Luckily for all of us, you do, huh?
> The Earth's spin wobbles
> from time to time, it's called "nutation," just like a toy top
> wobbling and then spinning true again.
And? This wobble, according to you, somehow represents "pole shift" so
sudden, quick and dramatic, mind you, that it causes "a 1,000 tall wall
(sic) of water headed your way at over 300 mph"? Here's a clue for you:
Michael Bay movies are not science.
> The rock formations around St.
> Louis are mostly sedimentary; ergo, the area was under the ocean for a
> long time and is likely to be submerged again. The Himalayas are
> covered with coral. When the super volcano at Yellowstone blows again
> [it's about 30,000 years over due now] it is predicted to bury Omaha
> under 1"+ of ash... Get real. When Mother Nature gets t' movin'
> either go with the flow, get out of the way, or die. Geology is a
> living science.
And this is evidence of a sudden and super-fast geological pole shift
how exactly?
--
If you don't beat your meat
You can't have any pudding
How can you have any pudding
If you don't beat your meat?
Steve O
"Alan Ford" <zzz...@qqq.net> wrote in message
news:hdac1c$url$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Sanity wrote:
>
>>>> Scenario: The poles shift (it's happened before) and you see a 1,000
>>>> tall wall of water headed your way at over 300 mph;
>
> ??? The poles shift? What are you, fucking retarded?
>
>>> Eh, no.
>>>
>>> When scientists talk about the poles flipping, they are talking about
>>> the magnetic field of the earth, not the physical planet. Periodically,
>>> the magnetic field dies and rebuilds with the magnetic poles reversed.
Hey wait a minute, I never really thought about this much before.
You mean that when these guys are talking about a pole shift,they
actually think the planet is going to flip 180 degrees?
Bwhahahaha!
No wonderc they're sh*tting themselves!!!!
Hell, if the poles do reverse, maybe the odd pigeon may get confused in
flight, and a few ships might get a little bit lost,(but not for long due to
GPS positioning) but what else could happen?
tirebiter
---
a.a. #2273
Tim McGaughy
> On Nov 9, 10:30 am, Tim McGaughy <tee...@toast.net> wrote:
>> Sanity wrote:
>>> On Nov 8, 11:13 pm, "His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I
>>> & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> I'm getting ready for the Big One. Are you?
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 3:09 PM, His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the
>>>>> Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> If Armageddon is coming with floods, I'm ready. I've got kayaks and
>>>>>> canoes.
>>>> On Nov 8, 10:24 pm, Doris Ragland <dr4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> good
>>>> I also got survival food like for a week or two.
>>> "Armageddon tired of all this end of the world talk." - Anon
>>> Scenario: The poles shift (it's happened before) and you see a 1,000
>>> tall wall of water headed your way at over 300 mph;
>> Eh, no.
>>
>> When scientists talk about the poles flipping, they are talking about
>> the magnetic field of the earth, not the physical planet. Periodically,
>> the magnetic field dies and rebuilds with the magnetic poles reversed.
>>
>> Occasionally, the poles of the spin axis shift slightly as well, but
>> that doesn't cause giant floods, either.
>
> "They" don't know that, and neither do you.
Yes, they do. Plate tectonics accounts nicely for mountain ranges rising
from what used to be ocean floor quite nicely without resorting to
wobbling axes.
Mars just wobbled in recent years and managed not to rip itself apart,
by the way.
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
>
> - Show quoted text -
The high Mayan Priests then will then get back to the Vatican for
having deceived them with the story of CIVILIZATION, JESUS, BLA, BLA,
BLA.
All they did is kill indians, and enslaved them. And then went for the
Africans.
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
Which one, Apocalypto? I found it better than Braveheart and certainly
the Passion, all acted or directed by Gibson.
Apocalypto is man's bestiality but not pretending there are good guys
like the Scots or the Christians, that we associate with. At the end
the indian chooses to turn his back on the Spanish and return to the
jungle. Not a bad choice.
The name of the game is power, the Aztecs were tyrants on the other
indians, then the Christian Conquistadors were all about money... and
we are still waiting for civilization. ;)
Smiler
> "Alan Ford" <zzz...@qqq.net> wrote in message
> news:hdac1c$url$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Sanity wrote:
>>
>>>>> Scenario: The poles shift (it's happened before) and you see a
>>>>> 1,000 tall wall of water headed your way at over 300 mph;
>>
>> ??? The poles shift? What are you, fucking retarded?
>>
>>>> Eh, no.
>>>>
>>>> When scientists talk about the poles flipping, they are talking
>>>> about the magnetic field of the earth, not the physical planet.
>>>> Periodically, the magnetic field dies and rebuilds with the
>>>> magnetic poles reversed.
>
> Hey wait a minute, I never really thought about this much before.
> You mean that when these guys are talking about a pole shift,they
> actually think the planet is going to flip 180 degrees?
> Bwhahahaha!
> No wonderc they're sh*tting themselves!!!!
> Hell, if the poles do reverse, maybe the odd pigeon may get confused
> in flight, and a few ships might get a little bit lost,(but not for
> long due to GPS positioning) but what else could happen?
>
Magnetic compasses would point South instead of North.
A few orienteers might get lost and run in the wrong direction. No big deal.
:-)
--
Smiler
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
All gods are bespoke. They're all made to
perfectly fit the prejudices of their believer
Sanity
> Sanity wrote:
> >>> Scenario: The poles shift (it's happened before) and you see a 1,000
> >>> tall wall of water headed your way at over 300 mph;
>
> ??? The poles shift? What are you, fucking retarded?
>
> >> Eh, no.
>
> >> When scientists talk about the poles flipping, they are talking about
> >> the magnetic field of the earth, not the physical planet. Periodically,
> >> the magnetic field dies and rebuilds with the magnetic poles reversed.
>
> >> Occasionally, the poles of the spin axis shift slightly as well, but
> >> that doesn't cause giant floods, either.
>
> > "They" don't know that, and neither do you.
>
> Luckily for all of us, you do, huh?
Nope. I'm admitting ignorance.
>
> > The Earth's spin wobbles
> > from time to time, it's called "nutation," just like a toy top
> > wobbling and then spinning true again.
>
> And? This wobble, according to you, somehow represents "pole shift" so
> sudden, quick and dramatic, mind you, that it causes "a 1,000 tall wall
> (sic) of water headed your way at over 300 mph"? Here's a clue for you:
> Michael Bay movies are not science.
"In science we know nothing until we experiment." - Ben Franklin
The Subject Line of this Thread has to do with Armageddon, remember?
Asteroid impact could slosh the oceans around real good.
>
> > The rock formations around St.
> > Louis are mostly sedimentary; ergo, the area was under the ocean for a
> > long time and is likely to be submerged again. The Himalayas are
> > covered with coral. When the super volcano at Yellowstone blows again
> > [it's about 30,000 years over due now] it is predicted to bury Omaha
> > under 1"+ of ash... Get real. When Mother Nature gets t' movin'
> > either go with the flow, get out of the way, or die. Geology is a
> > living science.
>
> And this is evidence of a sudden and super-fast geological pole shift
> how exactly?
I wasn't adducing "evidence."
>
> --
> If you don't beat your meat
> You can't have any pudding
> How can you have any pudding
> If you don't beat your meat?
Same to you fella.
Sanity
Mars doesn't have oceans, and we can only speculate as to how thick
its mantle is. You only have to wobble a little to splash your coffee
and scald your fingers. Never done that? Lucky you... The earth is
not solid, in fact most of it is liquid; so a wobble of the Earth's
mantle could very well slosh the oceans and relocate the poles.
Sanity
> "Alan Ford" <zzz....@qqq.net> wrote in message
>
> news:hdac1c$url$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > Sanity wrote:
>
> >>>> Scenario: The poles shift (it's happened before) and you see a 1,000
> >>>> tall wall of water headed your way at over 300 mph;
>
> > ??? The poles shift? What are you, fucking retarded?
>
> >>> Eh, no.
>
> >>> When scientists talk about the poles flipping, they are talking about
> >>> the magnetic field of the earth, not the physical planet. Periodically,
> >>> the magnetic field dies and rebuilds with the magnetic poles reversed.
>
> Hey wait a minute, I never really thought about this much before.
> You mean that when these guys are talking about a pole shift,they
> actually think the planet is going to flip 180 degrees?
A wobble in the Earth's spin could relocate the mantle, say, 20
degrees maybe? The mantle isn't anchored to the LIQUID core and is
relatively thin; hence, the possibility of oceanic slosh and wild
sudden plate tectonics.
Omaha Nebraska could become the new north pole.
Keep the faith. :^)
> Bwhahahaha!
> No wonderc they're sh*tting themselves!!!!
> Hell, if the poles do reverse, maybe the odd pigeon may get confused in
> flight, and a few ships might get a little bit lost,(but not for long due to
> GPS positioning) but what else could happen?
Let's see: Solar flairs knock ot GPS tracking, your Hummer gets a
flat, and a new variety of fungus emerges that eats human lung tissue
faster than a cure can be found...
> > If you don't beat your meat?- Hide quoted text -
Yap
& Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 9, 9:31 am, Sanity <sanity-cla...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 8, 11:13 pm, "His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I
> > & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > I'm getting ready for the Big One. Are you?
>
> > > > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 3:09 PM, His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the
> > > > Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > If Armageddon is coming with floods, I'm ready. I've got kayaks and
> > > > > canoes.
>
> > > On Nov 8, 10:24 pm, Doris Ragland <dr4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > good
>
> > > I also got survival food like for a week or two.
>
> > "Armageddon tired of all this end of the world talk." - Anon
>
> > Scenario: The poles shift (it's happened before) and you see a 1,000
> > tall wall of water headed your way at over 300 mph; the question is,
> > "Can you get to your kayak that is packed with survival food and
> > equipment, get in, and grab your paddle in time?"
>
> > My hope is in God, not technology or things.
>
> > Peace, Sanity
>
> We are training anyway. My girlfriend and I are always training for
> the Big O.
My advise is your girl should leave you for the better.
>
> I know it will come with a bang but I don't think it'll be that
> catastrophic.
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
>
> - Show quoted text -
I guess you don't get the innuendo in, "Me and my girlfriend are
training for the Big O." ;)
That's a t-shirt I sell, "I'm training for the Big O, are you?"
And then depending on who asks you, you can say, Big One or... Big
Orgasm!
Never say, "I'm training for Armageddon!"
Yap
Yes.
But in this thread, you are concerned about Armageddon, not sex.
Your excuse is as bad as your sticky religion.
Sanity
-chuckle- I didn't get the message he was "concerned."
Tim McGaughy
Silly analogy. The Earth is not a coffee cup, and its axis doesn't
wobble that fast. Furthermore, the Mayans can't possibly have had a
remote clue as to when the Earth is likely to wobble again, if ever.
Sanity
My analogy was only a matter of scale, and calling it “silly” doesn’t
make it go away. What is silly and boring are disaster movies that
have the main characters escaping terrible death by the skin of their
teeth throughout ... awesome computer graphics though. It is also
silly to think being good Boy Scouts and doing your best to “Be
Prepared” can repeal Murphy’s Law. Cf.: Mt. Vesuvius and Pompeii.
NASA is just now finally coming up to speed with Mayan astronomy.
What I’m saying here is: “God plays with dice any time He/She/It feels
like it.”
Words words words. I have to KNOW! But the more I know the more I
know how little I know. I finally gave up on catching up with my T’ai
Chi master’s level of skill, and made a surprising and gratifying
quantum leap in my ability in the process. :^)
“Albert! Quit trying to tell God how to behave...” – Neils Bhor
[Einstein was pulling what was left of his hair out over the results
of a quantum experiment.]
Peace, Sanity
Alan Ford
>>>>> Scenario: The poles shift (it's happened before) and you see a 1,000
>>>>> tall wall of water headed your way at over 300 mph;
>> ??? The poles shift? What are you, fucking retarded?
>>
>>>> Eh, no.
>>>> When scientists talk about the poles flipping, they are talking about
>>>> the magnetic field of the earth, not the physical planet. Periodically,
>>>> the magnetic field dies and rebuilds with the magnetic poles reversed.
>>>> Occasionally, the poles of the spin axis shift slightly as well, but
>>>> that doesn't cause giant floods, either.
>>> "They" don't know that, and neither do you.
>> Luckily for all of us, you do, huh?
>
> Nope. I'm admitting ignorance.
No, you're not. By stating unequivocally that scientists don't know how
the Earth spins, tilts, wobbles and moves, you are proposing your own
superiority of knowledge on these matters.
However, here are the facts:
- Earth motions are well known and described to a detail
- planets do not violate those motions on an impulse, without reason and
on a whim
- any extreme movement of entire planets like you are proposing are
physically impossible
- magnetic pole shifts are well know and recorded
- no geographical pole shifts have ever been recorded and there is no
reason to suspect this ever happened, let alone on the scale of hours,
if not minutes, like you are proposing
>>> The Earth's spin wobbles
>>> from time to time, it's called "nutation," just like a toy top
>>> wobbling and then spinning true again.
>> And? This wobble, according to you, somehow represents "pole shift" so
>> sudden, quick and dramatic, mind you, that it causes "a 1,000 tall wall
>> (sic) of water headed your way at over 300 mph"? Here's a clue for you:
>> Michael Bay movies are not science.
>
> "In science we know nothing until we experiment." - Ben Franklin
> The Subject Line of this Thread has to do with Armageddon, remember?
> Asteroid impact could slosh the oceans around real good.
??? You claimed the Earth (geographic) pole shift. What's this about an
asteroid impact now? What does that have to do with anything?
>>> The rock formations around St.
>>> Louis are mostly sedimentary; ergo, the area was under the ocean for a
>>> long time and is likely to be submerged again. The Himalayas are
>>> covered with coral. When the super volcano at Yellowstone blows again
>>> [it's about 30,000 years over due now] it is predicted to bury Omaha
>>> under 1"+ of ash... Get real. When Mother Nature gets t' movin'
>>> either go with the flow, get out of the way, or die. Geology is a
>>> living science.
>> And this is evidence of a sudden and super-fast geological pole shift
>> how exactly?
>
> I wasn't adducing "evidence."
So what were you doing? Simply banging on the keyboard to pass time?
Alan Ford
>>>>> Scenario: The poles shift (it's happened before) and you see a 1,000
>>>>> tall wall of water headed your way at over 300 mph;
>> ??? The poles shift? What are you, fucking retarded?
>>
>>>> Eh, no.
>>>>
>>>> When scientists talk about the poles flipping, they are talking about
>>>> the magnetic field of the earth, not the physical planet. Periodically,
>>>> the magnetic field dies and rebuilds with the magnetic poles reversed.
>
> Hey wait a minute, I never really thought about this much before.
> You mean that when these guys are talking about a pole shift,they
> actually think the planet is going to flip 180 degrees?
> Bwhahahaha!
> No wonderc they're sh*tting themselves!!!!
Not only is the planet flipping in his scenario, mind you, but it's
doing it so bleeding fast that it produces a tsunami "1000 high"
traveling at 300 miles per hour.
Fortunately, Will Smith pilots a jet fighter and kills the tsunami just
in time for the little white girl to escape. Roll the credits.
Sanity
> Steve O wrote:
> >>>>> Scenario: The poles shift (it's happened before) and you see a 1,000
> >>>>> tall wall of water headed your way at over 300 mph;
> >> ??? The poles shift? What are you, fucking retarded?
>
> >>>> Eh, no.
>
> >>>> When scientists talk about the poles flipping, they are talking about
> >>>> the magnetic field of the earth, not the physical planet. Periodically,
> >>>> the magnetic field dies and rebuilds with the magnetic poles reversed.
>
> > Hey wait a minute, I never really thought about this much before.
> > You mean that when these guys are talking about a pole shift,they
> > actually think the planet is going to flip 180 degrees?
> > Bwhahahaha!
> > No wonderc they're sh*tting themselves!!!!
>
> Not only is the planet flipping in his scenario, mind you, but it's
> doing it so bleeding fast that it produces a tsunami "1000 high"
> traveling at 300 miles per hour.
> Fortunately, Will Smith pilots a jet fighter and kills the tsunami just
> in time for the little white girl to escape. Roll the credits.
Ahem: Will Smith got him one of those way cool UFO thangs to fly,
don't-cha remember?
sam
but what about a large crustal shift? like the skin of an orange
loosening from the fruit and shifting about the globe 30-some or so
degrees? many scientists use this scenario when explaining temperate
grasses found in the mouths and stomachs of mammoths that appeared to
be flash-frozen when found in siberia...as if an extremely sudden
change came about catching the animals as they grazed. it might also
explain a 15th century map found in the early 20th century depicting
shorelines and inland features of north & south america, africa but
most important, antartica showing its shoreline and geography that has
been supposedly under ice for 100's of 1,000's of years...the 'pere
reis map', or something like that.
Sanity
> Sanity wrote:
> >>>>> Scenario: The poles shift (it's happened before) and you see a 1,000
> >>>>> tall wall of water headed your way at over 300 mph;
> >> ??? The poles shift? What are you, fucking retarded?
>
> >>>> Eh, no.
> >>>> When scientists talk about the poles flipping, they are talking about
> >>>> the magnetic field of the earth, not the physical planet. Periodically,
> >>>> the magnetic field dies and rebuilds with the magnetic poles reversed.
> >>>> Occasionally, the poles of the spin axis shift slightly as well, but
> >>>> that doesn't cause giant floods, either.
> >>> "They" don't know that, and neither do you.
> >> Luckily for all of us, you do, huh?
>
> > Nope. I'm admitting ignorance.
>
> No, you're not. By stating unequivocally that scientists don't know how
> the Earth spins, tilts, wobbles and moves, you are proposing your own
> superiority of knowledge on these matters.
> However, here are the facts:
>
> - Earth motions are well known and described to a detail
> - planets do not violate those motions on an impulse, without reason and
> on a whim
> - any extreme movement of entire planets like you are proposing are
> physically impossible
Not the "entire planet" just the thin crust on the outside of the
liquid core. One "reason" might be strip mining benches hundreds of
feet high and over ten miles long like those created by Peabody Coal,
kinda like putting a little chewing gum on the side of an otherwise
balance ‘top’ causing it to wobble. It’s not nice to fool with Mother
Nature.
> - magnetic pole shifts are well know and recorded
> - no geographical pole shifts have ever been recorded and there is no
> reason to suspect this ever happened, let alone on the scale of hours,
> if not minutes, like you are proposing
Always a first time. The Subject Line of this Thread has to do with
Armageddon, remember?
I was and am theorizing about Armageddon ... hello? “Theory” is only
the first step of scientific method. Sanity to Alan: I’m postulating
not pontificating, get it? Jeez...
Peace, Sanity
JohnN
& Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm getting ready for the Big One. Are you?
In my brief life, I've survived many armageddons. There's practically
an "End of the World" a month in the AA newsgroup.
Amd by the way, Bingo, of the Banana Splits, is the real King of the
Apes.
JohnN
Alan Ford
>>>>>>> Scenario: The poles shift (it's happened before) and you see a 1,000
>>>>>>> tall wall of water headed your way at over 300 mph;
>>>> ??? The poles shift? What are you, fucking retarded?
>>>>>> Eh, no.
>>>>>> When scientists talk about the poles flipping, they are talking about
>>>>>> the magnetic field of the earth, not the physical planet. Periodically,
>>>>>> the magnetic field dies and rebuilds with the magnetic poles reversed.
>>>>>> Occasionally, the poles of the spin axis shift slightly as well, but
>>>>>> that doesn't cause giant floods, either.
>>>>> "They" don't know that, and neither do you.
>>>> Luckily for all of us, you do, huh?
>>> Nope. I'm admitting ignorance.
>> No, you're not. By stating unequivocally that scientists don't know how
>> the Earth spins, tilts, wobbles and moves, you are proposing your own
>> superiority of knowledge on these matters.
>> However, here are the facts:
>>
>> - Earth motions are well known and described to a detail
>> - planets do not violate those motions on an impulse, without reason and
>> on a whim
>> - any extreme movement of entire planets like you are proposing are
>> physically impossible
>
> Not the "entire planet" just the thin crust on the outside of the
> liquid core.
That is even more physically impossible. Tectonic plate movement occurs
at the rate of inches per decades, not thousands of miles per minute.
> One "reason" might be strip mining benches hundreds of
> feet high and over ten miles long like those created by Peabody Coal,
> kinda like putting a little chewing gum on the side of an otherwise
> balance �top� causing it to wobble. It�s not nice to fool with Mother
> Nature.
Strip mining at this scale has the same effect on the tectonic plate
motion as a mosquito fart has on the creation of hurricanes.
>> - magnetic pole shifts are well know and recorded
>> - no geographical pole shifts have ever been recorded and there is no
>> reason to suspect this ever happened, let alone on the scale of hours,
>> if not minutes, like you are proposing
>
> Always a first time. The Subject Line of this Thread has to do with
> Armageddon, remember?
OK, fair enough. Here's another equally likely scenario for Armageddon,
then: I go to a tacqueria, eat a few spicy burritos and get diarrhea of
such proportion that it engulfs the entire western hemisphere.
Hey, what the hell, I'm just postulating.
>
>>>>> The Earth's spin wobbles
>>>>> from time to time, it's called "nutation," just like a toy top
>>>>> wobbling and then spinning true again.
>>>> And? This wobble, according to you, somehow represents "pole shift" so
>>>> sudden, quick and dramatic, mind you, that it causes "a 1,000 tall wall
>>>> (sic) of water headed your way at over 300 mph"? Here's a clue for you:
>>>> Michael Bay movies are not science.
>>> "In science we know nothing until we experiment." - Ben Franklin
>>> The Subject Line of this Thread has to do with Armageddon, remember?
>>> Asteroid impact could slosh the oceans around real good.
>> ??? You claimed the Earth (geographic) pole shift. What's this about an
>> asteroid impact now? What does that have to do with anything?
>
> The Subject Line of this Thread has to do with Armageddon, remember?
Maybe so, but I jumped in to respond to your pseudo-scientific claims.
>
>>>>> The rock formations around St.
>>>>> Louis are mostly sedimentary; ergo, the area was under the ocean for a
>>>>> long time and is likely to be submerged again. The Himalayas are
>>>>> covered with coral. When the super volcano at Yellowstone blows again
>>>>> [it's about 30,000 years over due now] it is predicted to bury Omaha
>>>>> under 1"+ of ash... Get real. When Mother Nature gets t' movin'
>>>>> either go with the flow, get out of the way, or die. Geology is a
>>>>> living science.
>>>> And this is evidence of a sudden and super-fast geological pole shift
>>>> how exactly?
>>> I wasn't adducing "evidence."
>> So what were you doing? Simply banging on the keyboard to pass time?
>
> I was and am theorizing about Armageddon ... hello? �Theory� is only
> the first step of scientific method. Sanity to Alan: I�m postulating
> not pontificating, get it? Jeez...
Actually, a hypothesis would be the first step, but still, even a
hypothesis has to be able to withstand at least a drug test, i.e. not
sounding as if it was written by an illiterate schizophrenic patient on
acid who briefly browsed through the Illustrated Nostradamus for Dummies.
Sanity
There is a surveyor’s reference point here in St. Louis that moves a
little over 4” every year, relative to Greenwich England... You don’t
know much about Tectonic speeds. Try: http://www.iris.edu/seismon/
I was talking about wobble, not tectonic plate movement per se, but
you're wrong about that too. In recent history there was a very
sudden large plate shift under the Indian Ocean which caused a tsunami
that killed thousands, remember?
At the equator the Earth spins at about 900 mph... That's faster than
the speed of sound! One wobble and California could be an island or
completely submerged VERY suddenly.
>
> > One "reason" might be strip mining benches hundreds of
> > feet high and over ten miles long like those created by Peabody Coal,
> > kinda like putting a little chewing gum on the side of an otherwise
> > balance ‘top’ causing it to wobble. It’s not nice to fool with Mother
> > Nature.
>
> Strip mining at this scale has the same effect on the tectonic plate
> motion as a mosquito fart has on the creation of hurricanes.
Please show scientific method as proof of your pseudo-scientific
claim.
>
> >> - magnetic pole shifts are well know and recorded
> >> - no geographical pole shifts have ever been recorded and there is no
> >> reason to suspect this ever happened, let alone on the scale of hours,
> >> if not minutes, like you are proposing
>
> > Always a first time. The Subject Line of this Thread has to do with
> > Armageddon, remember?
>
> OK, fair enough. Here's another equally likely scenario for Armageddon,
> then: I go to a tacqueria, eat a few spicy burritos and get diarrhea of
> such proportion that it engulfs the entire western hemisphere.
> Hey, what the hell, I'm just postulating.
Yeah right, of course you are.
> > I was and am theorizing about Armageddon ... hello? “Theory” is only
> > the first step of scientific method. Sanity to Alan: I’m postulating
> > not pontificating, get it? Jeez...
>
> Actually, a hypothesis would be the first step,
A lot you know, NOT! The steps of Scientific Method are:
1) Theory
2) Hypothesis
3) Experiment
4) Analysis
5) Finding of fact
I'm a St. Louis Science Fair Judge. My career was in applied science,
> but still, even a
> hypothesis has to be able to withstand at least a drug test, i.e. not
> sounding as if it was written by an illiterate schizophrenic patient on
> acid who briefly browsed through the Illustrated Nostradamus for Dummies.
Sticks-n-stones don’t qualify as rational argumentation.
Tim McGaughy
No. The Earth is not a coffee cup, does not behave like a coffee cup,
does not spill like a coffee cup, is not shaped like a coffee cup, does
not spill liquid like a coffee cup.
> NASA is just now finally coming up to speed with Mayan astronomy.
Bullshit. NASA knows far more about astronomy than the Mayans could ever
hope to.
Alan Ford
> There is a surveyor�s reference point here in St. Louis that moves a
> little over 4� every year, relative to Greenwich England... You don�t
> know much about Tectonic speeds. Try: http://www.iris.edu/seismon/
??? Like I said, inches per decades. WTF?
> I was talking about wobble,
First you were talking about the entire planet rotating from north to
south by 180 degrees, i.e. shifting the poles you called it. Then you
said, well maybe not, you were really thinking the entire Earth's crust
rotating while the core staying still, then you danced around tectonic
plates moving rapidly, now you're back to "wobble", whatever the hell
that is supposed to be.
Which is it, exactly? It's hard to keep track of your current train of
thought.
> not tectonic plate movement per se, but
> you're wrong about that too. In recent history there was a very
> sudden large plate shift under the Indian Ocean which caused a tsunami
> that killed thousands, remember?
Yes, tectonic plate movements generally cause sudden and violent
movements on the surface. They're called earthquakes. If they happen to
occur in or very close to the oceans, they generally cause tsunamis.
What about it?
> At the equator the Earth spins at about 900 mph... That's faster than
> the speed of sound! One wobble and California could be an island or
> completely submerged VERY suddenly.
??? Jesus Christ, dude, do you know anything about physics? What does
the Earth rotation speed at the equator or anywhere else have to do with
tsunamis now? If an earthquake causes a tsunami, it makes no goddamn
difference how fast the Earth is rotating at any point in its path.
You think a rock thrown near the equator travels faster than the rock
thrown on the North Pole?
Also, what the hell is this "wobble" now supposed to be? No, seriously,
what is it, how does it happen, what causes it, please give is some
details, instead of just pulling stuff out of your ass.
>
>>> One "reason" might be strip mining benches hundreds of
>>> feet high and over ten miles long like those created by Peabody Coal,
>>> kinda like putting a little chewing gum on the side of an otherwise
>>> balance �top� causing it to wobble. It�s not nice to fool with Mother
>>> Nature.
>> Strip mining at this scale has the same effect on the tectonic plate
>> motion as a mosquito fart has on the creation of hurricanes.
>
> Please show scientific method as proof of your pseudo-scientific
> claim.
??? I have to show you "scientific method" and "proof" that strip mining
has zero effect on tectonic plate movement? Are you serious?
Well, OK then. How long did you say the strip mine is that can cause
this? Ten miles? The circumference of Earth is 24,900 miles. Your strip
mine is 0.4 thousandths of the Earth's circumference.
How deep was the strip mine? Hundreds of feet? Let's say one tenth of a
mile. The thickness of the Earth's crust is between 10-30 miles, so
let's assume 20. Therefore, your strip mine is a scratch on the surface
of the Earth's crust no more than 5 thousandths of its thickness.
How does something that is on the magnitude of scale of thousandths of X
cause X to violently move?
You are the one who has to provide scientific method as proof of your
pseudo-scientific claim, not me. Please provide it here:
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________________________________________________________
[snip shit]
>>>>>>> The rock formations around St.
>>>>>>> Louis are mostly sedimentary; ergo, the area was under the ocean for a
>>>>>>> long time and is likely to be submerged again. The Himalayas are
>>>>>>> covered with coral. When the super volcano at Yellowstone blows again
>>>>>>> [it's about 30,000 years over due now] it is predicted to bury Omaha
>>>>>>> under 1"+ of ash... Get real. When Mother Nature gets t' movin'
>>>>>>> either go with the flow, get out of the way, or die. Geology is a
>>>>>>> living science.
>>>>>> And this is evidence of a sudden and super-fast geological pole shift
>>>>>> how exactly?
>>>>> I wasn't adducing "evidence."
>>>> So what were you doing? Simply banging on the keyboard to pass time?
>>> I was and am theorizing about Armageddon ... hello? �Theory� is only
>>> the first step of scientific method. Sanity to Alan: I�m postulating
>>> not pontificating, get it? Jeez...
>> Actually, a hypothesis would be the first step,
>
> A lot you know, NOT! The steps of Scientific Method are:
> 1) Theory
> 2) Hypothesis
> 3) Experiment
> 4) Analysis
> 5) Finding of fact
>
> I'm a St. Louis Science Fair Judge. My career was in applied science,
??? If that is true, and having read your drivel so far, I have no
reason to trust this one bit, then the children of St.Louis are doomed.
Btw, a hypothesis can, but doesn't necessarily result in a theory, not
the other way around. A scientific theory is a result of 2-5, among others.
>> but still, even a
>> hypothesis has to be able to withstand at least a drug test, i.e. not
>> sounding as if it was written by an illiterate schizophrenic patient on
>> acid who briefly browsed through the Illustrated Nostradamus for Dummies.
>
> Sticks-n-stones don�t qualify as rational argumentation.
After all the Armageddon bullshit you posted here, now you want to be
considered rational?
Sanity
> > little over 4” every year, relative to Greenwich England... You don’t
> > know much about Tectonic speeds. Try:http://www.iris.edu/seismon/
>
> ??? Like I said, inches per decades. WTF?
4+" per year is over a yard per decade. Do the math. <sigh>
>
> > I was talking about wobble,
>
> First you were talking about the entire planet rotating from north to
> south by 180 degrees, i.e. shifting the poles you called it. Then you
> said, well maybe not, you were really thinking the entire Earth's crust
> rotating while the core staying still, then you danced around tectonic
> plates moving rapidly, now you're back to "wobble", whatever the hell
> that is supposed to be.
>
> Which is it, exactly? It's hard to keep track of your current train of
> thought.
Context "Armageddon." Magnetic poles shift 180 [nobody really knows
why, there are only theories, maybe this maybe that] the crust
(Earth's mantle) can wobble [there is nothing tying it to the molten
core] just like a top wobbles and then rights itself, whether or not
the two events are connected I don't know I'm speclating not
pontificating. The wobble causes (possibly) rapid violent plate
movement and tsunamis like mankind's history has never seen before;
maybe...Armageddon.
>
> > not tectonic plate movement per se, but
> > you're wrong about that too. In recent history there was a very
> > sudden large plate shift under the Indian Ocean which caused a tsunami
> > that killed thousands, remember?
>
> Yes, tectonic plate movements generally cause sudden and violent
> movements on the surface. They're called earthquakes. If they happen to
> occur in or very close to the oceans, they generally cause tsunamis.
> What about it?
Subject line context "Armageddon." Try to stay on point. Tsunami =
tall wall of water moving at aproximately 300 mph, hello?
>
> > At the equator the Earth spins at about 900 mph... That's faster than
> > the speed of sound! One wobble and California could be an island or
> > completely submerged VERY suddenly.
>
> ??? Jesus Christ, dude, do you know anything about physics? What does
> the Earth rotation speed at the equator or anywhere else have to do with
> tsunamis now? If an earthquake causes a tsunami, it makes no goddamn
> difference how fast the Earth is rotating at any point in its path.
> You think a rock thrown near the equator travels faster than the rock
> thrown on the North Pole?
I know it's easier to launch a satellite into space from the equator
than it is from near the poles ... less gravity to overcome because
the centrifugal force of the Earth's rotation acts to counter.
>
> Also, what the hell is this "wobble" now supposed to be? No, seriously,
> what is it, how does it happen, what causes it, please give is some
> details, instead of just pulling stuff out of your ass.
You’ve seen it yourself when a spinning top wobbles and then rights
itself. The Earth spins like a top. The scientific term is
"nutation" (also means a nodding of the head).
>
>
>
> >>> One "reason" might be strip mining benches hundreds of
> >>> feet high and over ten miles long like those created by Peabody Coal,
> >>> kinda like putting a little chewing gum on the side of an otherwise
> >>> balance ‘top’ causing it to wobble. It’s not nice to fool with Mother
> >>> Nature.
> >> Strip mining at this scale has the same effect on the tectonic plate
> >> motion as a mosquito fart has on the creation of hurricanes.
>
> > Please show scientific method as proof of your pseudo-scientific
> > claim.
>
> ??? I have to show you "scientific method" and "proof" that strip mining
> has zero effect on tectonic plate movement? Are you serious?
> Well, OK then. How long did you say the strip mine is that can cause
> this? Ten miles? The circumference of Earth is 24,900 miles. Your strip
> mine is 0.4 thousandths of the Earth's circumference.
> How deep was the strip mine? Hundreds of feet? Let's say one tenth of a
> mile. The thickness of the Earth's crust is between 10-30 miles, so
> let's assume 20. Therefore, your strip mine is a scratch on the surface
> of the Earth's crust no more than 5 thousandths of its thickness.
> How does something that is on the magnitude of scale of thousandths of X
> cause X to violently move?
> You are the one who has to provide scientific method as proof of your
> pseudo-scientific claim, not me. Please provide it here:
You left out the time factor. Even wind blown sand = tonnage over
time. The effect of imbalance could take decades to be perceptible
via seismograph, and then suddenly it could be too late... Context:
Armageddon. I'm not saying I have scientific proof, only workable
theories. I thought the scientific theory of an almost instant ice
age framed in the movie The Day After Tomorrow [pretty good special
FX, lousy plot line and acting] was possible, not a certainty.
>
> ________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________
>
> [snip shit]
>
>
>
>
>
> >>>>>>> The rock formations around St.
> >>>>>>> Louis are mostly sedimentary; ergo, the area was under the ocean for a
> >>>>>>> long time and is likely to be submerged again. The Himalayas are
> >>>>>>> covered with coral. When the super volcano at Yellowstone blows again
> >>>>>>> [it's about 30,000 years over due now] it is predicted to bury Omaha
> >>>>>>> under 1"+ of ash... Get real. When Mother Nature gets t' movin'
> >>>>>>> either go with the flow, get out of the way, or die. Geology is a
> >>>>>>> living science.
> >>>>>> And this is evidence of a sudden and super-fast geological pole shift
> >>>>>> how exactly?
> >>>>> I wasn't adducing "evidence."
> >>>> So what were you doing? Simply banging on the keyboard to pass time?
> >>> I was and am theorizing about Armageddon ... hello? “Theory” is only
> >>> the first step of scientific method. Sanity to Alan: I’m postulating
> >>> not pontificating, get it? Jeez...
> >> Actually, a hypothesis would be the first step,
>
> > A lot you know, NOT! The steps of Scientific Method are:
> > 1) Theory
> > 2) Hypothesis
> > 3) Experiment
> > 4) Analysis
> > 5) Finding of fact
>
> > I'm a St. Louis Science Fair Judge. My career was in applied science,
>
> ??? If that is true, and having read your drivel so far, I have no
> reason to trust this one bit, then the children of St.Louis are doomed.
> Btw, a hypothesis can, but doesn't necessarily result in a theory, not
> the other way around. A scientific theory is a result of 2-5, among others.
2-5 what? Individuals have theories too. Einstein's E=MC2, hello?
>
> >> but still, even a
> >> hypothesis has to be able to withstand at least a drug test, i.e. not
> >> sounding as if it was written by an illiterate schizophrenic patient on
> >> acid who briefly browsed through the Illustrated Nostradamus for Dummies.
>
> > Sticks-n-stones don’t qualify as rational argumentation.
>
> After all the Armageddon bullshit you posted here, now you want to be
> considered rational?
You're the one name calling like a grade school child...
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
I think you sound like the Jews denying their King (Jesus).
See, now we are acting like them. ;)
Yap
Well, I read between the lines that he is prepared.....if one is not
concerned, one would not make any preparation.
But he and his girlfriend are training for the big orgasm, then they
have personal issue there in impotency or disinterest, or something.
Yap
And they are appealing to the senseless bigots to make tons.
>
> NASA is just now finally coming up to speed with Mayan astronomy.
> What I’m saying here is: “God plays with dice any time He/She/It feels
> like it.”
The earth has been here for billions of year, and not going to
disappear for billions of years more.
>
> Words words words. I have to KNOW! But the more I know the more I
> know how little I know. I finally gave up on catching up with my T’ai
> Chi master’s level of skill, and made a surprising and gratifying
> quantum leap in my ability in the process. :^)
person.
However, most atheists rely upon common sense as the most valuable
asset.
>
> “Albert! Quit trying to tell God how to behave...” – Neils Bhor
> [Einstein was pulling what was left of his hair out over the results
> of a quantum experiment.]
>
> Peace, Sanity
Yap
The real world lives on without any worry about the stupid
aaaaarmageddon....it is a crying in pain word for the brainless minds.
Yap
I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Nov 10, 5:39 pm, JohnN <jnorri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 9, 12:13 am, "His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I
> > & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > I'm getting ready for the Big One. Are you?
>
> > In my brief life, I've survived many armageddons. There's practically
> > an "End of the World" a month in the AA newsgroup.
>
> > Amd by the way, Bingo, of the Banana Splits, is the real King of the
> > Apes.
>
> > JohnN
>
> I think you sound like the Jews denying their King (Jesus).
>
> See, now we are acting like them. ;)
Sanity
"What me worry?"
>
> > Words words words. I have to KNOW! But the more I know the more I
> > know how little I know. I finally gave up on catching up with my T’ai
> > Chi master’s level of skill, and made a surprising and gratifying
> > quantum leap in my ability in the process. :^)
>
> Inquisitive behavior is good, but knowledge is too wide to cover for a
> person.
The more I know the more I realize how incredibly ignorant I am.
> However, most atheists rely upon common sense as the most valuable
> asset.
>
> > “Albert! Quit trying to tell God how to behave...” – Neils Bhor
> > [Einstein was pulling what was left of his hair out over the results
> > of a quantum experiment.]
>
> Substitute nature for god will be much much more appropriate.
Is God distinct from Nature? News to me. Got any scientific evidence
to prove that assertion? %~\
Peace, Sanity
Sanity
I do not recognize the apotheosis of George Washington either...
http://www.nakedwashington.com/pitch/pitch-NGeorge.htm
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
>
> - Show quoted text -
"Don't Worry Be Happy"
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
>
> - Show quoted text -
Well, Jesus came back...
And here I am. Would you deny me? ;)
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
>
> - Show quoted text -
OK, this is THE BANANA REVOLUTION...EVERTHING'S COMING TOGETHER, get
it?
http://webspawner.com/users/bananarevolution
You can't deny the sexually loaded meaning of FORBIDDEN FRUIT, THE
TALKING SERPENT, and all that shit that doomed humanity. ;)
Sanity
I hear tell alackanookie is a really rare diesase in Hawaii, the only
State I haven't visited...
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/bananarevolution
>
> You can't deny the sexually loaded meaning of FORBIDDEN FRUIT, THE
> TALKING SERPENT, and all that shit that doomed humanity. ;)
Who says I can't, you? BWAHAHAHAHA!
Sanity
Deny you what?
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
(REMEMBER, if you want to be a top banana, you have to start at the
bottom of the bunch)
Alan Ford
>>> There is a surveyor�s reference point here in St. Louis that moves a
>>> little over 4� every year, relative to Greenwich England... You don�t
>>> know much about Tectonic speeds. Try:http://www.iris.edu/seismon/
>> ??? Like I said, inches per decades. WTF?
>
> 4+" per year is over a yard per decade. Do the math. <sigh>
Like I said, inches per decade. Your disingenuous "math" cannot hide the
fact that it's a process that can barely be described as a crawl, yet
you would have us believe that it can occur in such speeds and
proportions that it would result in an apocalypse.
>
>>> I was talking about wobble,
>> First you were talking about the entire planet rotating from north to
>> south by 180 degrees, i.e. shifting the poles you called it. Then you
>> said, well maybe not, you were really thinking the entire Earth's crust
>> rotating while the core staying still, then you danced around tectonic
>> plates moving rapidly, now you're back to "wobble", whatever the hell
>> that is supposed to be.
>>
>> Which is it, exactly? It's hard to keep track of your current train of
>> thought.
>
> Context "Armageddon." Magnetic poles shift 180 [nobody really knows
> why, there are only theories, maybe this maybe that] the crust
> (Earth's mantle) can wobble [there is nothing tying it to the molten
> core] just like a top wobbles and then rights itself, whether or not
> the two events are connected I don't know I'm speclating not
> pontificating. The wobble causes (possibly) rapid violent plate
> movement and tsunamis like mankind's history has never seen before;
> maybe...Armageddon.
Magnetic poles shift on an almost regular basis and are caused by the
Earth's core currents changes. The process is ongoing and it lasts
hundreds of thousands of years. There is nothing sudden about it - this
is not a Hollywood movie script.
There is no reason for the core to "wobble", least of all the magnetic
pole reversal, other than an overgrown imagination of people who are too
eager to accept the stupidest nonsense any charlatan will sell them, yet
are to lazy to learn about how real world works on their own.
>
>>> not tectonic plate movement per se, but
>>> you're wrong about that too. In recent history there was a very
>>> sudden large plate shift under the Indian Ocean which caused a tsunami
>>> that killed thousands, remember?
>> Yes, tectonic plate movements generally cause sudden and violent
>> movements on the surface. They're called earthquakes. If they happen to
>> occur in or very close to the oceans, they generally cause tsunamis.
>> What about it?
>
> Subject line context "Armageddon." Try to stay on point. Tsunami =
> tall wall of water moving at aproximately 300 mph, hello?
So, basically, you are claiming that at some time somewhere on Earth
there will be a tsunami caused by an underwater earthquake. Wow! Stop
the presses, we have a new Nostradamus / Sylvia Browne on our hands!
>
>>> At the equator the Earth spins at about 900 mph... That's faster than
>>> the speed of sound! One wobble and California could be an island or
>>> completely submerged VERY suddenly.
>> ??? Jesus Christ, dude, do you know anything about physics? What does
>> the Earth rotation speed at the equator or anywhere else have to do with
>> tsunamis now? If an earthquake causes a tsunami, it makes no goddamn
>> difference how fast the Earth is rotating at any point in its path.
>> You think a rock thrown near the equator travels faster than the rock
>> thrown on the North Pole?
>
> I know it's easier to launch a satellite into space from the equator
> than it is from near the poles ... less gravity to overcome because
> the centrifugal force of the Earth's rotation acts to counter.
Maybe so, but we're not dealing with rocket launches here.
>
>> Also, what the hell is this "wobble" now supposed to be? No, seriously,
>> what is it, how does it happen, what causes it, please give is some
>> details, instead of just pulling stuff out of your ass.
>
> You�ve seen it yourself when a spinning top wobbles and then rights
> itself. The Earth spins like a top. The scientific term is
> "nutation" (also means a nodding of the head).
For our planet its period is some 18 years. Nothing happens in the
matter you are describing, i.e. some rapid jerk motion lasting minutes.
Planets are not dogs and don't shake flees off as if they have a seizure.
>>
>>>>> One "reason" might be strip mining benches hundreds of
>>>>> feet high and over ten miles long like those created by Peabody Coal,
>>>>> kinda like putting a little chewing gum on the side of an otherwise
>>>>> balance �top� causing it to wobble. It�s not nice to fool with Mother
No, it's not possible. Get real, dude.
>
>> ________________________________________________________
>> ________________________________________________________
>>
>> [snip shit]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>> The rock formations around St.
>>>>>>>>> Louis are mostly sedimentary; ergo, the area was under the ocean for a
>>>>>>>>> long time and is likely to be submerged again. The Himalayas are
>>>>>>>>> covered with coral. When the super volcano at Yellowstone blows again
>>>>>>>>> [it's about 30,000 years over due now] it is predicted to bury Omaha
>>>>>>>>> under 1"+ of ash... Get real. When Mother Nature gets t' movin'
>>>>>>>>> either go with the flow, get out of the way, or die. Geology is a
>>>>>>>>> living science.
>>>>>>>> And this is evidence of a sudden and super-fast geological pole shift
>>>>>>>> how exactly?
>>>>>>> I wasn't adducing "evidence."
>>>>>> So what were you doing? Simply banging on the keyboard to pass time?
>>>>> I was and am theorizing about Armageddon ... hello? �Theory� is only
>>>>> the first step of scientific method. Sanity to Alan: I�m postulating
>>>>> not pontificating, get it? Jeez...
>>>> Actually, a hypothesis would be the first step,
>>> A lot you know, NOT! The steps of Scientific Method are:
>>> 1) Theory
>>> 2) Hypothesis
>>> 3) Experiment
>>> 4) Analysis
>>> 5) Finding of fact
>>> I'm a St. Louis Science Fair Judge. My career was in applied science,
>> ??? If that is true, and having read your drivel so far, I have no
>> reason to trust this one bit, then the children of St.Louis are doomed.
>> Btw, a hypothesis can, but doesn't necessarily result in a theory, not
>> the other way around. A scientific theory is a result of 2-5, among others.
>
> 2-5 what? Individuals have theories too. Einstein's E=MC2, hello?
The reason both Einstein's theories of relativity are now theories is
because they went through all the stages of being accepted as theories.
First he came up with a hypothesis, worked it out in what he called
"dream experiment", put in down on paper, then his colleagues checked it
out and confirmed his work, experiments were conducted that verified the
calculations and after that it was accepted as a scientific theory, i.e.
an explanation of how certain physical phenomena work.
JohnN
I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Nov 10, 5:39 pm, JohnN <jnorri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 9, 12:13 am, "His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I
> > & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > I'm getting ready for the Big One. Are you?
>
> > In my brief life, I've survived many armageddons. There's practically
> > an "End of the World" a month in the AA newsgroup.
>
> > Amd by the way, Bingo, of the Banana Splits, is the real King of the
> > Apes.
>
> > JohnN
>
> I think you sound like the Jews denying their King (Jesus).
>
> See, now we are acting like them. ;)
I have no idea what your meaning is. I cannot connect your comments
to mine.
JohnN
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
>
> - Show quoted text -
That I'm the King.
Not of the Jews but of the Apes.
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
>
> - Show quoted text -
Here I'm with a message to save the world, saying that I'm King of the
Apes... and you deny me.
Are you Atheist or Foe? ;)
Sanity
> >>> little over 4” every year, relative to Greenwich England... You don’t
> >>> know much about Tectonic speeds. Try:http://www.iris.edu/seismon/
> >> ??? Like I said, inches per decades. WTF?
>
> > 4+" per year is over a yard per decade. Do the math. <sigh>
>
> Like I said, inches per decade.
Over 3 feet per decade... not inches. Do the math. <sigh>
> Your disingenuous "math" cannot hide the
> fact that it's a process that can barely be described as a crawl, yet
> you would have us believe that it can occur in such speeds and
> proportions that it would result in an apocalypse.
Tell that to people who have survived an earthquake.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >>> I was talking about wobble,
> >> First you were talking about the entire planet rotating from north to
> >> south by 180 degrees, i.e. shifting the poles you called it. Then you
> >> said, well maybe not, you were really thinking the entire Earth's crust
> >> rotating while the core staying still, then you danced around tectonic
> >> plates moving rapidly, now you're back to "wobble", whatever the hell
> >> that is supposed to be.
>
> >> Which is it, exactly? It's hard to keep track of your current train of
> >> thought.
>
> > Context "Armageddon." Magnetic poles shift 180 [nobody really knows
> > why, there are only theories, maybe this maybe that] the crust
> > (Earth's mantle) can wobble [there is nothing tying it to the molten
> > core] just like a top wobbles and then rights itself, whether or not
> > the two events are connected I don't know I'm speclating not
> > pontificating. The wobble causes (possibly) rapid violent plate
> > movement and tsunamis like mankind's history has never seen before;
> > maybe...Armageddon.
>
> Magnetic poles shift on an almost regular basis and are caused by the
> Earth's core currents changes. The process is ongoing and it lasts
> hundreds of thousands of years. There is nothing sudden about it - this
> is not a Hollywood movie script.
It's close.
> There is no reason for the core to "wobble", least of all the magnetic
> pole reversal, other than an overgrown imagination of people who are too
> eager to accept the stupidest nonsense any charlatan will sell them, yet
> are to lazy to learn about how real world works on their own.
I didn't say anything about the core wobbling, just the thin mantle,
and it could be caused by: 1) Earth's core currents changes; 2)
Asteroid impact at just the wrong angle in just the wrong place,
Murphy's Law; 3) Imbalance in the structure of the crust due to Plate
Tectonics itself aided and abetted by strip mining; or, 4) a
combination of the first three and a suprise of several more Nature
thought up...
Ever been to the tornado museum in Iowa? Nature does incredible
stuff. Go see the telephone pole that is cut more than half way
through with a single sheet of newspaper and the broom-straw piercing
a ¼" of plate glass etc. Science hasn't explained all of nature and
WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!! eventually. <shrug>
>
>
>
> >>> not tectonic plate movement per se, but
> >>> you're wrong about that too. In recent history there was a very
> >>> sudden large plate shift under the Indian Ocean which caused a tsunami
> >>> that killed thousands, remember?
> >> Yes, tectonic plate movements generally cause sudden and violent
> >> movements on the surface. They're called earthquakes. If they happen to
> >> occur in or very close to the oceans, they generally cause tsunamis.
> >> What about it?
>
> > Subject line context "Armageddon." Try to stay on point. Tsunami =
> > tall wall of water moving at aproximately 300 mph, hello?
>
> So, basically, you are claiming that at some time somewhere on Earth
> there will be a tsunami caused by an underwater earthquake. Wow! Stop
> the presses, we have a new Nostradamus / Sylvia Browne on our hands!
Fuck you.
>
>
>
> >>> At the equator the Earth spins at about 900 mph... That's faster than
> >>> the speed of sound! One wobble and California could be an island or
> >>> completely submerged VERY suddenly.
> >> ??? Jesus Christ, dude, do you know anything about physics? What does
> >> the Earth rotation speed at the equator or anywhere else have to do with
> >> tsunamis now? If an earthquake causes a tsunami, it makes no goddamn
> >> difference how fast the Earth is rotating at any point in its path.
> >> You think a rock thrown near the equator travels faster than the rock
> >> thrown on the North Pole?
>
> > I know it's easier to launch a satellite into space from the equator
> > than it is from near the poles ... less gravity to overcome because
> > the centrifugal force of the Earth's rotation acts to counter.
>
> Maybe so, but we're not dealing with rocket launches here.
No, and I am unable to calculate the exact wrong angle and latitude/
longitde of the asteroid impact that would cause the Earth's mantle to
wobble and wild sudden plate tectonic surges and oceanic slosh, but I
bet Murphy's Law can. Pluto is officially not a planet because it
hasn't cleared its orbit of asteroids, but just last year an asteroid
missed the earth by only a few hundred thousand miles so I guess the
earth isn't a planet either...
>
>
>
> >> Also, what the hell is this "wobble" now supposed to be? No, seriously,
> >> what is it, how does it happen, what causes it, please give is some
> >> details, instead of just pulling stuff out of your ass.
>
> > You’ve seen it yourself when a spinning top wobbles and then rights
> > itself. The Earth spins like a top. The scientific term is
> > "nutation" (also means a nodding of the head).
>
> For our planet its period is some 18 years. Nothing happens in the
> matter you are describing, i.e. some rapid jerk motion lasting minutes.
I'm thinking the overall event could take days to weeks.
> Planets are not dogs and don't shake flees off as if they have a seizure.
Science is still learning. A volcano appeared in a farmer's field in
Mexico a few years ago and ruined his crop...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >>>>> One "reason" might be strip mining benches hundreds of
> >>>>> feet high and over ten miles long like those created by Peabody Coal,
> >>>>> kinda like putting a little chewing gum on the side of an otherwise
> >>>>> balance ‘top’ causing it to wobble. It’s not nice to fool with Mother
Wooly Mammoths were found flash frozen in Siberia ... frozen so fast
the greenery was still in their teeth. That's real dude.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> ________________________________________________________
> >> ________________________________________________________
>
> >> [snip shit]
>
> >>>>>>>>> The rock formations around St.
> >>>>>>>>> Louis are mostly sedimentary; ergo, the area was under the ocean for a
> >>>>>>>>> long time and is likely to be submerged again. The Himalayas are
> >>>>>>>>> covered with coral. When the super volcano at Yellowstone blows again
> >>>>>>>>> [it's about 30,000 years over due now] it is predicted to bury Omaha
> >>>>>>>>> under 1"+ of ash... Get real. When Mother Nature gets t' movin'
> >>>>>>>>> either go with the flow, get out of the way, or die. Geology is a
> >>>>>>>>> living science.
> >>>>>>>> And this is evidence of a sudden and super-fast geological pole shift
> >>>>>>>> how exactly?
> >>>>>>> I wasn't adducing "evidence."
> >>>>>> So what were you doing? Simply banging on the keyboard to pass time?
> >>>>> I was and am theorizing about Armageddon ... hello? “Theory” is only
> >>>>> the first step of scientific method. Sanity to Alan: I’m postulating
> >>>>> not pontificating, get it? Jeez...
> >>>> Actually, a hypothesis would be the first step,
> >>> A lot you know, NOT! The steps of Scientific Method are:
> >>> 1) Theory
> >>> 2) Hypothesis
> >>> 3) Experiment
> >>> 4) Analysis
> >>> 5) Finding of fact
> >>> I'm a St. Louis Science Fair Judge. My career was in applied science,
> >> ??? If that is true, and having read your drivel so far, I have no
> >> reason to trust this one bit, then the children of St.Louis are doomed.
> >> Btw, a hypothesis can, but doesn't necessarily result in a theory, not
> >> the other way around. A scientific theory is a result of 2-5, among others.
>
> > 2-5 what? Individuals have theories too. Einstein's E=MC2, hello?
>
> The reason both Einstein's theories of relativity are now theories is
> because they went through all the stages of being accepted as theories.
> First he came up with a hypothesis, worked it out in what he called
> "dream experiment", put in down on paper, then his colleagues checked it
> out and confirmed his work, experiments were conducted that verified the
> calculations ...
They're still working on Einstein's calculations. Einstein himself
took a fudge factor out of one of 'em, calling it his "greatest
blunder," and now they're trying to put it back in because of quatum
theory. Theories are not facts.
Armageddon tired of talking with you.
Sanity
& Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 10:31 am, Sanity <sanity-cla...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > > And here I am. Would you deny me? ;)
>
> > Deny you what?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> That I'm the King.
>
> Not of the Jews but of the Apes.
Ever heard of Queen Latifa? She sofyne...
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
See, you are dodging the question. Notice I don't claim to be King of
Kings (fake Jesus) but just King of the Apes, Comandante or Chief if
you prefer. I love the Indians so chief of a tribe would be quite
honorary to me.
In other words, I'm here to do what I can to save the bipedal species
without specials powers, but some powerful metaphors to live by...
THE LAW OF THE JUNGLE
Once upon a time, in the deep jungle, lived a Lion and a Monkey... One
day the Monkey, tired of the Lion always taking the LION'S SHARE, and
seeing that such injustice represented a danger to all, demanded
JUSTICE... The Lion, yawning and stretching, said, "You would have to
have paws and sharp teeth..." Then the Monkey, who was very clever,
devised a plan: He would go to the costume store, and look like a
lion...
When the HUNGRY LION saw him, noticing that the new lion wasn't a
match for him, and fearing COMPETITION, killed him on the spot --
before the indifferent look of the little animals of the jungle... And
that's how the Law of the Jungle was re-established one more time...
(NOTE: Other monkeys survived him...)
***
Yes, the Hungry Lion and the indifferent sheep are a big problem that
we have in the jungle. ;)
We can analyze the jungle further.
Sanity
To answer your question: I do not deny you are who you say you are,
but neither can I in good conscience affirm or confirm it.
Tim McGaughy
> On Nov 10, 6:18 pm, Alan Ford <zzz....@qqq.net> wrote:
>>>> That is even more physically impossible. Tectonic plate movement occurs
>>>> at the rate of inches per decades, not thousands of miles per minute.
>>> There is a surveyor�s reference point here in St. Louis that moves a
>>> little over 4� every year, relative to Greenwich England... You don�t
>>> know much about Tectonic speeds. Try:http://www.iris.edu/seismon/
>> ??? Like I said, inches per decades. WTF?
>
> 4+" per year is over a yard per decade. Do the math. <sigh>
40 inches per decade. Inches, not miles. Just like he said
> Context "Armageddon." Magnetic poles shift 180 [nobody really knows
> why, there are only theories, maybe this maybe that]
Yes, actually, they DO know why. Fluid electromagnetism is pretty well
understood. The sun, by the way, goes through pole reversals about every
11 to 13 years. To my knowledge, it hasn't been ripped apart lately.
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
>
> - Show quoted text -
You can't either confirm nor deny that I'm either the Messiah or the
anti Christ.
Do you want me to do miracles, walk on water, tell the future?
This may be ground for a new religion, huh?
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
>
> - Show quoted text -
Wait a minute, you deny the sexual innuendo in the forbidden fruit and
the devilish serpent?
I love Christian symbolism even when they talk all kind of shit. ;)
Sanity
Religion doesn't need ground it walks on water, remember?
Sanity
> Sanity wrote:
> > On Nov 10, 6:18 pm, Alan Ford <zzz....@qqq.net> wrote:
> >>>> That is even more physically impossible. Tectonic plate movement occurs
> >>>> at the rate of inches per decades, not thousands of miles per minute.
> >>> little over 4” every year, relative to Greenwich England... You don’t
> >>> know much about Tectonic speeds. Try:http://www.iris.edu/seismon/
> >> ??? Like I said, inches per decades. WTF?
>
> > 4+" per year is over a yard per decade. Do the math. <sigh>
>
> 40 inches per decade. Inches, not miles. Just like he said
The plate shift that caused the receint tsunami in the Indian Ocean
was feet per second. It does happen, deal with it.
>
> > Context "Armageddon." Magnetic poles shift 180 [nobody really knows
> > why, there are only theories, maybe this maybe that]
>
> Yes, actually, they DO know why. Fluid electromagnetism is pretty well
> understood. The sun, by the way, goes through pole reversals about every
> 11 to 13 years. To my knowledge, it hasn't been ripped apart lately.
I haven't said shit about the planet being "ripped apart."
Sanity
It alway struck me funny how the legend says God told Adam and Eve not
to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, saying "upon
that day you will surly die" then didn't kill 'em ... and they didn't
know what they were doing was "evil" beforehand, ergo no sin because
to sin you have to act with a guilty mind... It just never added up
to me.
"You can't put too much water in a nuculear reactor." - SNL Three Mile
Island skit.
Sanity
& Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 6:15 pm, Sanity <sanity-cla...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 11, 4:39 pm, "His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I
> > & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 11, 10:31 am, Sanity <sanity-cla...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > -snip-
>
> > > > > And here I am. Would you deny me? ;)
>
> > > > Deny you what?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > That I'm the King.
>
> > > Not of the Jews but of the Apes.
>
> > Ever heard of Queen Latifa? She sofyne...
>
> See, you are dodging the question. Notice I don't claim to be King of
> Kings (fake Jesus) but just King of the Apes, Comandante or Chief if
> you prefer. I love the Indians so chief of a tribe would be quite
> honorary to me.
No I am not dodging. I do not deny you. I'm not about to affirm or
confirm you either. I do deny your assertion that I should accept you
as what you say you are, my mind is my own not yours to command.
Alan Ford
I'm getting tired of reading bullshit on the pre-school level. I'll just
point out a few of your most retarded shit.
>>> theories. I thought the scientific theory of an almost instant ice
>>> age framed in the movie The Day After Tomorrow [pretty good special
>>> FX, lousy plot line and acting] was possible, not a certainty.
>> No, it's not possible. Get real, dude.
>
> Wooly Mammoths were found flash frozen in Siberia ... frozen so fast
> the greenery was still in their teeth. That's real dude.
And you think this happened one warm and sunny day when the mammoth was
chewing some grass and all of a sudden an ice age crept up on him,
literally like in that stupid shit movie you think is a documentary?
>> The reason both Einstein's theories of relativity are now theories is
>> because they went through all the stages of being accepted as theories.
>> First he came up with a hypothesis, worked it out in what he called
>> "dream experiment", put in down on paper, then his colleagues checked it
>> out and confirmed his work, experiments were conducted that verified the
>> calculations ...
>
> They're still working on Einstein's calculations. Einstein himself
> took a fudge factor out of one of 'em, calling it his "greatest
> blunder," and now they're trying to put it back in because of quatum
> theory. Theories are not facts.
Theories are as close to the facts as we can get. Theories are
explanations of how shit works.
>
> Armageddon tired of talking with you.
Feeling be mutual.
Yap
>
> Not of the Jews but of the Apes.
continent Africa.
Yap
& Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 5:05 pm, JohnN <jnorri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 10, 10:26 pm, "His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes
> > I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 10, 5:39 pm, JohnN <jnorri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Nov 9, 12:13 am, "His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I
> > > > & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > I'm getting ready for the Big One. Are you?
>
> > > > In my brief life, I've survived many armageddons. There's practically
> > > > an "End of the World" a month in the AA newsgroup.
>
> > > > Amd by the way, Bingo, of the Banana Splits, is the real King of the
> > > > Apes.
>
> > > > JohnN
>
> > > I think you sound like the Jews denying their King (Jesus).
>
> > > See, now we are acting like them. ;)
>
> > I have no idea what your meaning is. I cannot connect your comments
> > to mine.
>
> > JohnN- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Here I'm with a message to save the world, saying that I'm King of the
> Apes... and you deny me.
>
> Are you Atheist or Foe? ;)
Sanity
> Sanity wrote:
>
> I'm getting tired of reading bullshit on the pre-school level. I'll just
> point out a few of your most retarded shit.
>
> >>> theories. I thought the scientific theory of an almost instant ice
> >>> age framed in the movie The Day After Tomorrow [pretty good special
> >>> FX, lousy plot line and acting] was possible, not a certainty.
> >> No, it's not possible. Get real, dude.
>
> > Wooly Mammoths were found flash frozen in Siberia ... frozen so fast
> > the greenery was still in their teeth. That's real dude.
>
> And you think this happened one warm and sunny day when the mammoth was
> chewing some grass and all of a sudden an ice age crept up on him,
> literally like in that stupid shit movie you think is a documentary?
I never said "The Day After Tomorrow" movie was a documentary, and
claiming I did rises no higher than a childish recess taunt; only that
I saw the theory as plausable. I am not capable of doing an
experiment to either prove or disprove the scenario, and neither is
NASA. The Wooly Mammoths found flash frozen in Siberia were so well
preserved their flesh was still edible after thousands of years,
dude... Please give some other theory or hypothesis that could
explain flash freezing a warm blooded animal the size of an elephant
that quickly. What's your 'theory' oh brilliant knower of science
thou? Cave men didn't have liquid nitrogen to work with...
>
> >> The reason both Einstein's theories of relativity are now theories is
> >> because they went through all the stages of being accepted as theories.
> >> First he came up with a hypothesis, worked it out in what he called
> >> "dream experiment", put in down on paper, then his colleagues checked it
> >> out and confirmed his work, experiments were conducted that verified the
> >> calculations ...
>
> > They're still working on Einstein's calculations. Einstein himself
> > took a fudge factor out of one of 'em, calling it his "greatest
> > blunder," and now they're trying to put it back in because of quatum
> > theory. Theories are not facts.
>
> Theories are as close to the facts as we can get. Theories are
> explanations of how shit works.
"Theory" is only the first step of scientific method. Scientific
facts are found by experimentation and analysis of the results of the
experiments.
Gravity is a fact, but from where I'm sitting since people in Sri
Lanka call what I call 'down' - 'up' they all must be crazy? No, from
their point of vew relative to the Earth they are correct. In
'theory' if you are at the gravinometric center of the Earth you are
weightless because gravity is pulling you equally from all directions,
but I don't care to try the experiment necessary to prove that
theory...
>
>
>
> > Armageddon tired of talking with you.
>
> Feeling be mutual.
Let's call the whole thing off.
JohnN
I told you Bingo of the Banana Splits is KING OF THE APES.
>
> Are you Atheist or Foe? ;)
I am
JohnN
Sanity
To be a theist or not to be a theist is that the question?
Torah/Pentateuch based theism is patriarchal and makes no sense to
me. OTOH, Goddess worship is just as sexist! I believe in one God,
the Creator of the Universe, but I lack the temerity to try to define
that originator via the human convention of language, or science, or
mathematics. I like Steven Hawking, but I think he looks like a puppy
chasing its own tail in trying to fit God into an equation. %~\
Peace, Sanity
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
>
> - Show quoted text -
That's right. I never accepted Bush to be my president.
He was the president of the Christians.
So I'm King of the Apes, but not ALPHA MALE, if you know what I mean.
Just democratic king.
Unlike god who's a tyrant.
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
I do NOT claim to command all the jerks. ;)
>
> > Not of the Jews but of the Apes.
>
> The Jews are from the apes as well, more so when they are next to the
> continent Africa.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
When the apes walked out of Africa first thing they found is Israel,
Palestine or however you call it.
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
>
> - Show quoted text -
See, that's what the Christians want: Us fighting each other. But they
are fighting each other too so be it.
You sound like Judas.
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
Hey, look at all my tittles above, and you will know I'm "the one."
Tim McGaughy
> On Nov 11, 8:32 pm, Tim McGaughy <tee...@toast.net> wrote:
>> Sanity wrote:
>>> On Nov 10, 6:18 pm, Alan Ford <zzz....@qqq.net> wrote:
>>>>>> That is even more physically impossible. Tectonic plate movement occurs
>>>>>> at the rate of inches per decades, not thousands of miles per minute.
>>>>> little over 4� every year, relative to Greenwich England... You don�t
>>>>> know much about Tectonic speeds. Try:http://www.iris.edu/seismon/
>>>> ??? Like I said, inches per decades. WTF?
>>> 4+" per year is over a yard per decade. Do the math. <sigh>
>> 40 inches per decade. Inches, not miles. Just like he said
>
> The plate shift that caused the receint tsunami in the Indian Ocean
> was feet per second. It does happen, deal with it.
As you've been told, it was just an earthquake. Deal with it.
And it wasn't caused by entire plates suddenly moving, just the edges
grinding and snapping as they relieved already built-up stress in a very
localized area.
>>> Context "Armageddon." Magnetic poles shift 180 [nobody really knows
>>> why, there are only theories, maybe this maybe that]
>> Yes, actually, they DO know why. Fluid electromagnetism is pretty well
>> understood. The sun, by the way, goes through pole reversals about every
>> 11 to 13 years. To my knowledge, it hasn't been ripped apart lately.
>
> I haven't said shit about the planet being "ripped apart."
Okay, nutbar. Calm down.
Tim McGaughy
> On Nov 12, 2:30 am, Alan Ford <zzz....@qqq.net> wrote:
>> Sanity wrote:
>>
>> I'm getting tired of reading bullshit on the pre-school level. I'll just
>> point out a few of your most retarded shit.
>>
>>>>> theories. I thought the scientific theory of an almost instant ice
>>>>> age framed in the movie The Day After Tomorrow [pretty good special
>>>>> FX, lousy plot line and acting] was possible, not a certainty.
>>>> No, it's not possible. Get real, dude.
>>> Wooly Mammoths were found flash frozen in Siberia ... frozen so fast
>>> the greenery was still in their teeth. That's real dude.
>> And you think this happened one warm and sunny day when the mammoth was
>> chewing some grass and all of a sudden an ice age crept up on him,
>> literally like in that stupid shit movie you think is a documentary?
>
> I never said "The Day After Tomorrow" movie was a documentary, and
> claiming I did rises no higher than a childish recess taunt; only that
> I saw the theory as plausable. I am not capable of doing an
> experiment to either prove or disprove the scenario, and neither is
> NASA. The Wooly Mammoths found flash frozen in Siberia were so well
> preserved their flesh was still edible after thousands of years,
> dude... Please give some other theory or hypothesis that could
> explain flash freezing a warm blooded animal the size of an elephant
> that quickly. What's your 'theory' oh brilliant knower of science
> thou? Cave men didn't have liquid nitrogen to work with...
You assume they were flash-frozen. They could have easily just gotten
caught in a blizzard and died of exposure. Hell, they could have simply
died of natural causes in a place that was cold enough to freeze them
eventually.
Sanity
You assume they got caught in a blizzard with greenery in their mouths
and that that event could have frozen an animal that large without it
spoiling. You don't know jack about meat packing. You have to cut a
cow up before freezing it or it'll spoil, now scale that up to an
elephant.
“When in the course of scientific events it becomes necessary to
dissolve allegiances to established beliefs, you can expect to face a
lot of flak.” – Tom Siegfried [pretty good article on quarks, Science
News, September 12, 2009
Sanity
> Sanity wrote:
> > On Nov 11, 8:32 pm, Tim McGaughy <tee...@toast.net> wrote:
> >> Sanity wrote:
> >>> On Nov 10, 6:18 pm, Alan Ford <zzz....@qqq.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> That is even more physically impossible. Tectonic plate movement occurs
> >>>>>> at the rate of inches per decades, not thousands of miles per minute.
> >>>>> little over 4” every year, relative to Greenwich England... You don’t
> >>>>> know much about Tectonic speeds. Try:http://www.iris.edu/seismon/
> >>>> ??? Like I said, inches per decades. WTF?
> >>> 4+" per year is over a yard per decade. Do the math. <sigh>
> >> 40 inches per decade. Inches, not miles. Just like he said
>
> > The plate shift that caused the receint tsunami in the Indian Ocean
> > was feet per second. It does happen, deal with it.
>
> As you've been told, it was just an earthquake. Deal with it.
>
> And it wasn't caused by entire plates suddenly moving, just the edges
> grinding and snapping as they relieved already built-up stress in a very
> localized area.
>
> >>> Context "Armageddon." Magnetic poles shift 180 [nobody really knows
> >>> why, there are only theories, maybe this maybe that]
> >> Yes, actually, they DO know why. Fluid electromagnetism is pretty well
> >> understood. The sun, by the way, goes through pole reversals about every
> >> 11 to 13 years. To my knowledge, it hasn't been ripped apart lately.
>
> > I haven't said shit about the planet being "ripped apart."
>
> Okay, nutbar. Calm down.
Ploink.
Sanity
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 11, 11:26 am, "His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes
> > I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 10, 5:39 pm, JohnN <jnorri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Nov 9, 12:13 am, "His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I
> > > > & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > I'm getting ready for the Big One. Are you?
>
> > > > In my brief life, I've survived many armageddons. There's practically
> > > > an "End of the World" a month in the AA newsgroup.
>
> > > > Amd by the way, Bingo, of the Banana Splits, is the real King of the
> > > > Apes.
>
> > > > JohnN
>
> > > I think you sound like the Jews denying their King (Jesus).
>
>
>
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
>
> And here I am. Would you deny me? ;)
Maybe.
JohnN
>
> - Show quoted text -
You're something alright!
JohnN
Smiler
Just a small circle of them.
--
Smiler
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
All gods are bespoke. They're all made to
perfectly fit the prejudices of their believer
Alan Ford
>>>> That I'm the King.
>>> King of the street corner jerks? No, we don't deny you.
>> I do NOT claim to command all the jerks. ;)
>>
>
> Just a small circle of them.
This one's a keeper.
Tim McGaughy
nothing. I gave a couple of alternate scenarios. Froze in a blizzard, or
simply died in conditions where they would freeze. Neither is implausible.
> they got caught in a blizzard with greenery in their mouths
> and that that event could have frozen an animal that large without it
> spoiling. You don't know jack about meat packing. You have to cut a
> cow up before freezing it or it'll spoil, now scale that up to an
> elephant.
You cut cows up before freezing them because it's harder to butcher a
frozen cow. And they DON'T need to be flash frozen.
Yap
And since no others wish for, you are the natural choice.
There are benefits.....a King and your subjects, plus your generosity
to hand out money/food.
>
>
>
> > > Not of the Jews but of the Apes.
>
> > The Jews are from the apes as well, more so when they are next to the
> > continent Africa.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> When the apes walked out of Africa first thing they found is Israel,
> Palestine or however you call it.
You mean they are less governable? Or they are much more religious or
orthodox to your liking?
You can always claim o be their god....they won't know the truth.
Yap
I did not know you are an atheist, are you?
But atheist does not have a King, especially a King of banana.
Sanity
Cattle are butchered before freezing because: 1) Not taking the
innards out, especially the stomach and colon, would spoil the meat;
2) The smaller the mass the quicker it can freeze. Go freeze an
elephant, do the experiment, then talk to me about scientific facts.
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
I could be the next Messiah (one of the meanings is "liberator") or
King of the Apes, writing from the Deep Jungle.
What I don't claim to be is king of something I'm not, like Jesus did.
"I'm King of the Jews!" Totally crazy, you know.
Then you go, "Hey, our messiah showed up," and then you know things
may be changing soon.
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
>
> > I do NOT claim to command all the jerks. ;)
>
> Just a small circle of them.
>
This is like say, "All the jerks go to church."
That's not entirely true. Some even don't believe in god and then
believe in UFO's or nothing at all!
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> Smiler wrote:
> >>>> That I'm the King.
> >>> King of the street corner jerks? No, we don't deny you.
> >> I do NOT claim to command all the jerks. ;)
>
> > Just a small circle of them.
>
> This one's a keeper.
>
> --
Maybe the jerks can't even make a circle but remain a chaotic mass.
Then you say, "That's a bunch of jerks!" ;)
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
>
> - Show quoted text -
See, you claimed there was another REAL king of the apes, and that got
me jealous, like god does.
We want to control everything but the jerks.
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hey, you don't know this like the perfect match for the Christian
Banana Republic.
Like it or not they have power, and you are whining because you can't
do a thing about it. Thus the need for the Banana Revolution, get it?
It's like the Apes fighting the Sheep with a banana...
Too deep?
MattaHairy
>
> - Show quoted text -
short on top an nut deeeeeeeep nuf; greyling.
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
>
> - Show quoted text -
Lots of famous characters here. I thought that was the famous sexy
spy, but didn't know she was hairy.
Maybe you are an ape too. And then what do you got to fight back?
I was just watching how to fight a lion on Animal Planet, and running
is not the way. Walk toward him with a banana if you will.
Man-eating lion will have to eat banana.
I'm like Jesus, speaking in parables, but making sense. Think about
it.
Tim McGaughy
First let's talk about the fact that you've apparently been
misrepresenting the facts. The mammoths that were found frozen but
'edible' weren't really edible.
Brian E. Clark
dnVhyzJgRq4TWn...@posted.toastnet>,
tee...@toast.net says...
> First let's talk about the fact that you've apparently been
> misrepresenting the facts. The mammoths that were found frozen but
> 'edible' weren't really edible.
It's incredible how well these people remember "scientific
facts" they've gleaned from Jack Chick comics and
creationist tracts, but cannot seem to recall any of the
real science they learned in school.
I remember this "edible mammoth" claim well, because I
first heard it from a Creationist friend of my mother when
I was a lad. Her friend had always struck me as a bit of a
nitwit, so I went to the local library to check the story.
I found the book I needed listed in the card catalogue
(yes, those ancient, yellowed, cardboard tabs shelved in
long wooden drawers!), but the book was on loan elsewhere.
The librarian lady had it transferred back, and after about
10 days' waiting I was finally able to read first-hand
accounts.
And what did I read? I read about a stench so foul that
seasoned field researchers were fleeing from it and
throwing up, and meat so spoiled that no human being would
think of eating it.
Note that years later I read about a group of scientists
who uncovered another mammoth carcass which, like the
others, was decomposed, but who braved illness to sample
some of the meat (after cooking it thoroughly). They said
it tasted like spoiled meat. :)
--
-----------
Brian E. Clark
haiku jones
<brianecl...@address.invalid.invalid> wrote:
> In article <O--
> dnVhyzJgRq4TWnZ2dnUVZ_hdi4...@posted.toastnet>,
> tee...@toast.net says...
>
> > First let's talk about the fact that you've apparently been
> > misrepresenting the facts. The mammoths that were found frozen but
> > 'edible' weren't really edible.
>
> It's incredible how well these people remember "scientific
> facts" they've gleaned from Jack Chick comics and
> creationist tracts, but cannot seem to recall any of the
> real science they learned in school.
>
> I remember this "edible mammoth" claim well, because I
> first heard it from a Creationist friend of my mother when
> I was a lad. Her friend had always struck me as a bit of a
> nitwit, so I went to the local library to check the story.
> I found the book I needed listed in the card catalogue
> (yes, those ancient, yellowed, cardboard tabs shelved in
> long wooden drawers!),
What's, um..."wood"?
> but the book was on loan elsewhere.
> The librarian lady had it transferred back, and after about
> 10 days' waiting I was finally able to read first-hand
> accounts.
>
> And what did I read? I read about a stench so foul that
> seasoned field researchers were fleeing from it and
> throwing up, and meat so spoiled that no human being would
> think of eating it.
>
> Note that years later I read about a group of scientists
> who uncovered another mammoth carcass which, like the
> others, was decomposed, but who braved illness to sample
> some of the meat (after cooking it thoroughly). They said
> it tasted like spoiled meat. :)
Damn! What a once-in-a-lifetime chance wasted!
Shoulda said "tastes like spoiled chicken"!
Haiku Jones
Sanity
I guess I sold have crossposted. %~\
Not so far fetched after all:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20091202/sc_livescience/bigfreeze...
I said I thought the theory was plausible, and by golly here come a
bunch of scientists to say it might have actually happened...
Sanity
Tim McGaughy
> On Dec 4, 12:17 pm, Brian E. Clark
> <brianecl...@address.invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <O--
>> dnVhyzJgRq4TWnZ2dnUVZ_hdi4...@posted.toastnet>,
>> tee...@toast.net says...
>>
>>> First let's talk about the fact that you've apparently been
>>> misrepresenting the facts. The mammoths that were found frozen but
>>> 'edible' weren't really edible.
>> It's incredible how well these people remember "scientific
>> facts" they've gleaned from Jack Chick comics and
>> creationist tracts, but cannot seem to recall any of the
>> real science they learned in school.
>>
>> I remember this "edible mammoth" claim well, because I
>> first heard it from a Creationist friend of my mother when
>> I was a lad. Her friend had always struck me as a bit of a
>> nitwit, so I went to the local library to check the story.
>> I found the book I needed listed in the card catalogue
>> (yes, those ancient, yellowed, cardboard tabs shelved in
>> long wooden drawers!),
>
> What's, um..."wood"?
Biodegradable plastic, I think.