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Pat Kight

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Nov 17, 2009, 2:17:16 AM11/17/09
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Chickpea wrote:
> For those who might be interested, but not at Sony/Kindle prices....
>
> http://www.ebookwise.com/ebookwise/ebookwise1150.htm

Good price. The backlit LCD screen is kind of a downer, but it seems
the e-ink technology, while gentler on the eyes, is a big part of what's
keeping other device prices high.

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Aahz Maruch

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Nov 17, 2009, 11:07:29 AM11/17/09
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In article <-7CdnbIXRbFh0J_W...@scnresearch.com>,
Pat Kight <kig...@peak.org> wrote:

>Chickpea wrote:
>>
>> http://www.ebookwise.com/ebookwise/ebookwise1150.htm
>
>Good price. The backlit LCD screen is kind of a downer, but it seems
>the e-ink technology, while gentler on the eyes, is a big part of what's
>keeping other device prices high.

Note: I disagree that e-ink is gentler on the eyes, based on my
experience with my Nokia N810 and limited playing with If's reader.
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Steve Pope

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Nov 17, 2009, 1:28:27 PM11/17/09
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Chickpea <chic...@gmx.co.uk> wrote:

>In alt.polyamory, (Aahz Maruch) wrote in

><hduho1$6i9$1...@panix3.panix.com>::

>>Pat Kight <kig...@peak.org> wrote:

>>>Chickpea wrote:

>>>> http://www.ebookwise.com/ebookwise/ebookwise1150.htm

>>>Good price. The backlit LCD screen is kind of a downer, but it seems
>>>the e-ink technology, while gentler on the eyes, is a big part of what's
>>>keeping other device prices high.

>>Note: I disagree that e-ink is gentler on the eyes, based on my
>>experience with my Nokia N810 and limited playing with If's reader.

>It's gentler on battery power, for sure. And it works in bright
>sunlight, which most backlit technologies don't.

>Then again, it's crap in the dark.

The "64 Mbyte of internal memory" seems oddly low. Any
cellphone these days has a micro SD card that can hold 4 Gbytes.
I realize books are not the memory-hogs that media files
are, but 64 MB is still only a hundred or so novels in plaintext.

Steve

Dan Abel

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Nov 17, 2009, 1:29:26 PM11/17/09
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In article <ivp5g5d4frc2hdvcm...@4ax.com>,
Chickpea <chic...@gmx.co.uk> wrote:

> In alt.polyamory, (Aahz Maruch) wrote in
> <hduho1$6i9$1...@panix3.panix.com>::
>

> >In article <-7CdnbIXRbFh0J_W...@scnresearch.com>,
> >Pat Kight <kig...@peak.org> wrote:
> >>Chickpea wrote:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.ebookwise.com/ebookwise/ebookwise1150.htm
> >>
> >>Good price. The backlit LCD screen is kind of a downer, but it seems
> >>the e-ink technology, while gentler on the eyes, is a big part of what's
> >>keeping other device prices high.
> >
> >Note: I disagree that e-ink is gentler on the eyes, based on my
> >experience with my Nokia N810 and limited playing with If's reader.
>

> It's gentler on battery power, for sure. And it works in bright
> sunlight, which most backlit technologies don't.
>
> Then again, it's crap in the dark.

My mommy always told me not to read in the dark. This must be why.

:-)

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Susan Davis

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Nov 17, 2009, 6:48:04 PM11/17/09
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Chickpea:

> In alt.polyamory, (Aahz Maruch) wrote in
> <hduho1$6i9$1...@panix3.panix.com>::
>>
>>Note: I disagree that e-ink is gentler on the eyes, based on my
>>experience with my Nokia N810 and limited playing with If's reader.
>
> It's gentler on battery power, for sure. And it works in bright
> sunlight, which most backlit technologies don't.

So does my OLPC, which is my current e-book reader substitute. The PDF
reader can be switched into portrait mode, and with the backlight off and
power management turned all the way up, the battery lasts a good long
while. It's heavier than e-book readers, but is useful for more things.

--
Susan Davis <s...@sue.net>

Aahz Maruch

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Nov 17, 2009, 7:39:59 PM11/17/09
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In article <hdvcnk$q9b$3...@news.eternal-september.org>,

My Nokia N810 is almost usable in bright sunlight and has a better
keyboard than the OLPC. (Which is rather annoying, considering that the
OLPC's keyboard is about twice as big.)

Miche

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Nov 17, 2009, 11:51:59 PM11/17/09
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In article <hdvcnk$q9b$3...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Susan Davis <futab...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I got to play with an OLPC XO a couple of weeks ago, and I fell in love
with it. Got Sugar on a Stick to play with on my Mac...

Miche

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Pat Kight

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Nov 18, 2009, 2:42:53 AM11/18/09
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Aahz Maruch wrote:
> In article <-7CdnbIXRbFh0J_W...@scnresearch.com>,
> Pat Kight <kig...@peak.org> wrote:
>> Chickpea wrote:
>>> http://www.ebookwise.com/ebookwise/ebookwise1150.htm
>> Good price. The backlit LCD screen is kind of a downer, but it seems
>> the e-ink technology, while gentler on the eyes, is a big part of what's
>> keeping other device prices high.
>
> Note: I disagree that e-ink is gentler on the eyes, based on my
> experience with my Nokia N810 and limited playing with If's reader.

Do you find the printed page harder on your eyes than your computer
screen? E-ink screens work pretty much like ink-on-paper, by ambient
light reflected on the page (and requires the same sort of lighting
conditions for comfortable reading.

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Aahz Maruch

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Nov 18, 2009, 2:00:50 PM11/18/09
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In article <ueidnalLPqjhOJ7W...@scnresearch.com>,
Pat Kight <kig...@peak.org> wrote:

>Aahz Maruch wrote:
>>
>> Note: I disagree that e-ink is gentler on the eyes, based on my
>> experience with my Nokia N810 and limited playing with If's reader.
>
>Do you find the printed page harder on your eyes than your computer
>screen? E-ink screens work pretty much like ink-on-paper, by ambient
>light reflected on the page (and requires the same sort of lighting
>conditions for comfortable reading.

Yes, but e-ink is still a different reflective coating and lower
resolution than paper. In general, I definitely prefer paper to LCD, but
my experience with e-ink left me feeling that it was rather far from a
paper substitute, much more like a faded and yellowing old paperback.
OTOH, my N810 has a resolution >200dpi (more than old laser printers).
Having super-high resolution in an LCD really makes a difference.

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Pat Kight

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Nov 19, 2009, 2:16:06 AM11/19/09
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Aahz Maruch wrote:
> In article <ueidnalLPqjhOJ7W...@scnresearch.com>,
> Pat Kight <kig...@peak.org> wrote:
>> Aahz Maruch wrote:
>>> Note: I disagree that e-ink is gentler on the eyes, based on my
>>> experience with my Nokia N810 and limited playing with If's reader.
>> Do you find the printed page harder on your eyes than your computer
>> screen? E-ink screens work pretty much like ink-on-paper, by ambient
>> light reflected on the page (and requires the same sort of lighting
>> conditions for comfortable reading.
>
> Yes, but e-ink is still a different reflective coating and lower
> resolution than paper. In general, I definitely prefer paper to LCD, but
> my experience with e-ink left me feeling that it was rather far from a
> paper substitute, much more like a faded and yellowing old paperback.
> OTOH, my N810 has a resolution >200dpi (more than old laser printers).
> Having super-high resolution in an LCD really makes a difference.

Different strokes. Spending 8-10 hours a day staring at a computer
screen is about all the back-lighting my eyes can stand; I find e-ink
plenty sharp enough for these old eyes, and much less wearing for
sustained reading.

Good thing we live in the future, where we have more than one option!

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Tane' Tachyon

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Nov 26, 2009, 6:14:07 PM11/26/09
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Aahz Maruch wrote:

> In article <ueidnalLPqjhOJ7W...@scnresearch.com>,
> Pat Kight <kig...@peak.org> wrote:
>>Aahz Maruch wrote:
>>>
>>> Note: I disagree that e-ink is gentler on the eyes, based on my
>>> experience with my Nokia N810 and limited playing with If's reader.
>>
>>Do you find the printed page harder on your eyes than your computer
>>screen? E-ink screens work pretty much like ink-on-paper, by ambient
>>light reflected on the page (and requires the same sort of lighting
>>conditions for comfortable reading.
>
> Yes, but e-ink is still a different reflective coating and lower
> resolution than paper. In general, I definitely prefer paper to LCD, but
> my experience with e-ink left me feeling that it was rather far from a
> paper substitute, much more like a faded and yellowing old paperback.
> OTOH, my N810 has a resolution >200dpi (more than old laser printers).
> Having super-high resolution in an LCD really makes a difference.

The previously-mentioned-in-this-thead OLPC is 200dpi.
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