I beg of someone PLEASE....
Cat
this friendly for EVERYONE dragonsnot.
they're discontinuing all newsgroup access.
if ANYONE would be willing to try to help me through installation and learning
(remembering that I have a hard time learning new stuff) how to use another
reader, I would keep you in my daily talks with the powers that are for the
rest of my lifetime.....
james tried 4 different times to teach me outlook, and I couldnt grasp it.
either that or it was his teaching. damned man had to go and die on me, now I
really need his help... (no that isnt irreverance, that's me trying to deal
with several things at once and being overwhelmed....)
email is lady...@aol.com.......
Cat
----------------------------
princess of all she surveys
loved by many
possessed by few
Hawker
But right off the top there is an important question.
Are you keeping A-O-Hell or a different ISP?
The ISP you use will most likely have a news feed.
If not you can use Google (not recommended) or a pay news feed or a free
news feed.
I use a free news feed called news.individual.net
http://www.individual.net/
I also use a free news reader called Mozilla.
http://www.mozilla.org/
I find this much easier and better than Outlook.
The rest is just setting this up, which any local computer person should
be able to walk you through pretty quickly.
That outta get you started.
Hawker
On 1/24/2005 2:23 PM, The digits of Cat's hands composed the following:
yaz 'beth' pistachio
> if ANYONE would be willing to try to help me
i have emailed, Cat, but i'll post here too just in case.
help. offering. one each. <grin>
--beth (tech monkey stuff is fun, yaaaaay!)
--
Procrastination gives you something to look forward to.
--Joan Konner
seven
just at the minute. The aol newsreader never was up to much anyway.
If you want outlook advice I'll try and help you
xxx
yaz 'beth' pistachio
(piggybacking on this really quickly, just to say that
Cat is actually unable to see usenet at the moment, including her
own post. heh. we're already working on her access via email so
she oughta be back soon.)
--beth (letting people know, at Cat's request)
--
My second favorite household chore is ironing. My first being
hitting my head on the top bunk bed until I faint.
--Erma Bombeck
Alison Stewart
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:44:57 -0500, Hawker wrote:
> I use a free news feed called news.individual.net
> http://www.individual.net/
It requires a free registration, which (aside from taking a couple of
days) is quite reasonable. I've been very happy with them.
> I also use a free news reader called Mozilla. http://www.mozilla.org/
They've split mail and news off into Thunderbird, if you don't need the
web browser portion (some people stick with the AOL browser, some don't).
The reader alone is a bit faster and lighter.
http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/releases/
> I find this much easier and better than Outlook.
Oh, much. Much less prone to viruses and other malware, too.
Thunderbird or Mozilla will require just some initial setup by a
somewhat savvy computer person (to hook up to the news server and such),
but then they are quite easy to use. If you can manage the AOL interface,
you should be fine.
--Alison
-----------------------------------
to email me, leave out the leaveout
Suchetha Wijenayake
"GEEK"), and i am very impressed with individual.net
also i use teranews for the newsgroups that individual doesn't carry
(50mb downloads per day, USD3.95 one time payment)
all good all fun
Suchetha
umarc
>aofreakinghell is driving more and more customers away due to their "lets make
>this friendly for EVERYONE dragonsnot.
>they're discontinuing all newsgroup access.
Wow.
After all the fallout that followed the addition of Usenet access to AOL,
access, I never imagined I'd see the day when they'd discontinue it.
>if ANYONE would be willing to try to help me through installation and learning
>(remembering that I have a hard time learning new stuff) how to use another
>reader, I would keep you in my daily talks with the powers that are for the
>rest of my lifetime.....
If you are using Windows, Agent (by forteinc.com) has a good reputation,
and news.individual.de is a good news server to use.
You're welcome to e-mail me for more help.
umar
Mean Green Dancing Machine
umarc <um...@hippogryph.com> wrote:
>
>If you are using Windows, Agent (by forteinc.com) has a good reputation,
>and news.individual.de is a good news server to use.
Note that Free Agent would probably suffice for now. Also, your address
takes one to the German site; it's probably better to use
http://news.individual.net/
--
--- Aahz <*> (Copyright 2005 by aa...@pobox.com)
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The problem with an ever-changing .sig is that you have to keep changing it
Rob Wynne
>lady...@aol.comnospam (Cat) writes:
>
>>aofreakinghell is driving more and more customers away due to their "lets make
>>this friendly for EVERYONE dragonsnot.
>
>>they're discontinuing all newsgroup access.
>
>Wow.
>
>After all the fallout that followed the addition of Usenet access to AOL,
>access, I never imagined I'd see the day when they'd discontinue it.
>
"You feel that? That nip in the air?"
"Yeah. What is that?"
"October."
-R
--
Rob Wynne / The Autographed Cat / d...@america.net
http://www.autographedcat.com/ / http://autographedcat.livejournal.com/
Gafilk 2005: Jan 7-9, 2005 -- Atlanta, GA -- http://www.gafilk.org/
Mean Green Dancing Machine
Rob Wynne <d...@america.net> wrote:
>umarc <um...@hippogryph.com> wrote:
>>
>>After all the fallout that followed the addition of Usenet access to AOL,
>>access, I never imagined I'd see the day when they'd discontinue it.
>
>"You feel that? That nip in the air?"
>"Yeah. What is that?"
>"October."
ROTFL!
For those who don't get the joke, it's a reference to, "It's always
September on the Information Superhighway" --Orc
majer...@ftml.net
> "You feel that? That nip in the air?"
> "Yeah. What is that?"
> "October."
Can it be? Is that a turning leaf I see?
I suppose there may not be a 20 year anniversary, and that my
"Ten years of september" t-shirt [1] may become a collector's
item?
(I say it's wishful thinking...)
Footnotes:
[1] http://ingebrigtsen.no/ten.php
ElissaAnn
"Rob Wynne" <d...@america.net> wrote in message
news:dBtJd.287$6k....@eagle.america.net...
> umarc <um...@hippogryph.com> wrote:
>>lady...@aol.comnospam (Cat) writes:
>>
>>>aofreakinghell is driving more and more customers away due to their
>>>"lets make
>>>this friendly for EVERYONE dragonsnot.
>>
>>>they're discontinuing all newsgroup access.
>>
>>Wow.
>>
>>After all the fallout that followed the addition of Usenet access to AOL,
>>access, I never imagined I'd see the day when they'd discontinue it.
>>
>
> "You feel that? That nip in the air?"
> "Yeah. What is that?"
> "October."
What a clever way to put down AOL-users. That makes me think you're really
smart and cool.
Not.
Elissa, AOL-user
--
"Welcome to heaven; here's your harp and tuning key."
"Welcome to hell; here's your harp."
Brooks Moses
> "Rob Wynne" <d...@america.net> wrote in message
> news:dBtJd.287$6k....@eagle.america.net...
> > "Yeah. What is that?"
> > "October."
>
> What a clever way to put down AOL-users. That makes me think you're really
> smart and cool.
It shouldn't be, really, though.
But, then, if one pays enough attention to the nuances to realize that
it's not really a put-down to AOL users, one's also forced to admit that
this isn't October at all.
The history goes like this: Before AOL, Usenet always got full of
clueless newbies in September, when all the college campuses got full of
freshmen with new computer accounts. AOL came along, and then it was
always September, in the sense that there were always clueless newbies
showing up, all year 'round.
The problem never was AOL users being more clueless than anyone else.
The problem was all newbies being clueless, until they'd been around for
a month or two -- that's why things used to be bad in September, and get
better in October; it's why "October" means what it does in the
comments. But with AOL's exponential growth patterns, for quite a while
most of AOL users _were_ newbies who hadn't been around for long.
In my estimation, AOL's October came years ago; it's been a long time
since AOL's usenetters were mostly newbies. Most of them these days
seem to be the old guard, of people who've been around for years and
years. The time has long passed that turning off AOL will stem the tide
of newbies, and the feeders of endless September are....
...Actually, you know, it _hasn't_ been endless September for years, in
the parts of Usenet I've seen. It's been October, and November, and all
the rest of the seasons, and we're now stuck in the endless July,
waiting for another wave of a mass of fresh newbies that's never going
to come, though there are still a few trickling in, and the regulars are
mostly (but nowhere near all) still around.
Anyhow, if today is still endless September, it is the endless September
of Google Groups, not of AOL.
- Brooks
--
The "bmoses-nospam" address is valid; no unmunging needed.
umarc
>...Actually, you know, it _hasn't_ been endless September for years, in
>the parts of Usenet I've seen. It's been October, and November, and all
>the rest of the seasons, and we're now stuck in the endless July,
>waiting for another wave of a mass of fresh newbies that's never going
>to come, though there are still a few trickling in, and the regulars are
>mostly (but nowhere near all) still around.
I love July, August, and even September. It is January that always seems
endless.
umar, expecting another !@#$%& snowstorm tomorrow
Arthur D. Hlavaty
But is April the cruelest month?
--
Arthur D.Hlavaty hla...@panix.com
Church of the SuperGenius in Wile E. we trust
http://www.livejournal.com/users/supergee/
E-zine available on request
umarc
>On 26 Jan 2005 05:08:10 GMT, umarc <um...@hippogryph.com> wrote:
>>I love July, August, and even September. It is January that always seems
>>endless.
>But is April the cruelest month?
Not if you have to go to Block Island. There are more boats and the
wind chill is much more tolerable. Plus, you get to see lots of birds
in April, as Block Island seems to be the Grand Central Station of the
Atlantic flyway.
Unfortunately, I have to go there tomorrow, and carrying an Optimod
(bulky, relatively heavy piece of equipment). Ugh.
umar
Fat Naked Dangerous
>umarc <um...@hippogryph.com> wrote:
>>lady...@aol.comnospam (Cat) writes:
>>>aofreakinghell is driving more and more customers away due to their "lets make
>>>this friendly for EVERYONE dragonsnot.
>>>they're discontinuing all newsgroup access.
>>Wow.
>>After all the fallout that followed the addition of Usenet access to AOL,
>>access, I never imagined I'd see the day when they'd discontinue it.
>"You feel that? That nip in the air?"
>"Yeah. What is that?"
>"October."
I think I hurt myself.
--
Piglet
Selki
> >>lady...@aol.comnospam (Cat) writes:
> >>>aofreakinghell is driving more and more customers away due to their
> >>>"lets make
> >>>this friendly for EVERYONE dragonsnot.
> >>>they're discontinuing all newsgroup access.
> Elissa, AOL-user
Elissa and Cat, what is this going to mean for your a.p participation?
Are you going to use Google Groups, or get a shell account, or ...?
Selki, hoping to continue seeing your ASCII around here
Irfon-Kim Ahmad
I have a nearly-always-on server for which I can probably offer shell
accounts to a limited number of folks what need such. It's where I read
USENET from myself.
ElissaAnn
"Selki" <se...@io.invalid> wrote in message
news:1MWdndthc8t...@io.com...
I haven't been using the AOL newsreader for years. I still dial on through
AOL, but I use OE as a reader (I know, I know...) and that German news
server (if that's the word I'm looking for). I had no trouble setting it
up, and I'm sure that Cat can do it, too!
Elissa
--
Harpe Diem!
yaz 'beth' pistachio
> Elissa and Cat, what is this going to mean for your a.p participation?
> Are you going to use Google Groups, or get a shell account, or ...?
...uncertain about Elissa, but i'm helping Cat get set up and she'll
be back soon. woulda been sooner but she's had RealLifey stuff to
deal with the last couple of days.
--beth (tech monkey, eek eek eek)
--
I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but
they've always worked for me.
--Hunter S. Thompson
Miche
umarc <um...@hippogryph.com> wrote:
THIS January has felt endless. This has been New Zealand's worst summer
for 60 years -- grey and cold. But, fortunately, not too rainy or else
I'd be packing up and moving to Australia.
Miche
--
WWMVD?
Teal
> THIS January has felt endless. This has been New Zealand's worst summer
> for 60 years -- grey and cold. But, fortunately, not too rainy or else
> I'd be packing up and moving to Australia.
*sends Rainmaking Thoughts NZ-ward*
Teal
--
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My livejournal: http://teal7.livejournal.com
"It's all fun and games until someone gets a submarine in the eye."
- Mark
Miche
Teal <use...@chromatic-dragonfly.com> wrote:
> mi...@myrealbox.com wrote...
>
> > THIS January has felt endless. This has been New Zealand's worst summer
> > for 60 years -- grey and cold. But, fortunately, not too rainy or else
> > I'd be packing up and moving to Australia.
>
> *sends Rainmaking Thoughts NZ-ward*
:)
You do know that if I _do_ end up living in Australia, it's likely to be
Melbourne?
Miche
--
WWMVD?
Teal
> Teal <use...@chromatic-dragonfly.com> wrote:
> > mi...@myrealbox.com wrote...
> >
> > > THIS January has felt endless. This has been New Zealand's worst summer
> > > for 60 years -- grey and cold. But, fortunately, not too rainy or else
> > > I'd be packing up and moving to Australia.
> >
> > *sends Rainmaking Thoughts NZ-ward*
>
> :)
> You do know that if I _do_ end up living in Australia, it's likely to be
> Melbourne?
That'd be fine. It's still closer (and more visitable) than NZ. :-)
Joe Woodhouse
mi...@myrealbox.com says...
> [...]
> You do know that if I _do_ end up living in Australia, it's likely to be
> Melbourne?
[blink]
Australian Joe
--
Prima Donna Consulting... because competence is sexy.
Miche
Joe Woodhouse <joe.wo...@primadonnaconsulting.com> wrote:
> In article <miche-6DFDEB....@news.itconsult.net>,
> mi...@myrealbox.com says...
> > [...]
> > You do know that if I _do_ end up living in Australia, it's likely to be
> > Melbourne?
>
> [blink]
I love Melbourne. If I ever move to .au it's my first choice of place
to live.
However, my chances of moving to .au at all are very very slim (since
I've got a steady, reasonably well-paying job &c).
IOW, the "if" there is a mighty big one.
Miche
--
WWMVD?