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walt tonne
Oct 23, 2012, 2:48:57 PM10/23/12
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The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
Klaus Schadenfreude
Oct 23, 2012, 3:19:16 PM10/23/12
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>walt tonne <tonnew...@gmail.com> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
Have you always hated the Constitution, or did you just start
recently?
recently?
Mike Huckabee
Oct 23, 2012, 3:34:21 PM10/23/12
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"Klaus Schadenfreude" wrote in message
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Walt wants to be known as a "bird" that also shits in his own nest.
SNORDO
Oct 23, 2012, 4:11:25 PM10/23/12
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"walt tonne" <tonnew...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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: The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
best get yourself one of those stainless steel hillbilly collars with the spikes
I hear tell they going after you gomers and taking heads
me, I'm sellin the collars and the swords
Topaz
Oct 23, 2012, 5:01:10 PM10/23/12
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by William Scott
[This article illustrates the Jewish view on immigration,
namely that the only thing that matters is if immigration
helps Jews either directly by allowing more Jews to come
here or to weaken white Gentiles as a deliberate political
strategy. Now suddenly Muslim immigration is making Jews uneasy
and they're being forced to rethink their traditional
position of being fervent open borders advocates. This is
the Jewish mentality in action and why Jews can never be
trusted. They never cared about the destruction that massive
non-white immigration was causing America, only how it
affects Jews. As a matter of fact, the more non-whites the
better for them. This is clear from Glickman's comment."]
Community Questioning 'Open Door'
Debate Raging On Immigration
JEWISH FORWARD
"In a sharp break with the past, advocates of reduced
immigration have been invited in recent months to speak
before the General Assembly of United Jewish Communities as
well as to board members of the American Jewish Committee
and at an American Jewish Congress event. All three
institutions have historically been staunch advocates of
open immigration. 'The more diverse American society is the
safer [Jews] are," Glickman told the Forward."
<http://www.forward.com/issues/2002/02.11.29/news3.html>
http://www.ihr.org/ http://heretical.com/
http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
Ramon F. Herrera
Oct 23, 2012, 5:10:31 PM10/23/12
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On Oct 23, 2:19 pm, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> >walt tonne <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
Walt, Judy The GM Drunkie, you, NumbersUSA, FAIR, CIS and ALL those
against the Path to Legalization (the one that DOES NOT exist) are on
the EXACT same side.
You folks support AZ SB-1070 which the Supreme Court deemed
Unconstitutional.
http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/Swing-Vote.jpg
-Ramon
"No escupas para arriba"
("Don't spit upwards". Spanish saying, equivalent to not throwing
rocks when you have a glass ceiling)
wrote:
> >walt tonne <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
against the Path to Legalization (the one that DOES NOT exist) are on
the EXACT same side.
You folks support AZ SB-1070 which the Supreme Court deemed
Unconstitutional.
http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/Swing-Vote.jpg
-Ramon
"No escupas para arriba"
("Don't spit upwards". Spanish saying, equivalent to not throwing
rocks when you have a glass ceiling)
walt tonne
Oct 23, 2012, 5:22:59 PM10/23/12
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Folks, I don't create these demographic changes. I merely publish with
some editorial comment.
I am still waiting for someone to post a feature/benefit presentation
proving the value of
illegal immigrants. No flowers and fluff, just the facts. All of your
overly humanist nonsense
will disappear as Americans crowd on each other. Coming events will
make the NFL boring!
Enjoy yourselves.
some editorial comment.
I am still waiting for someone to post a feature/benefit presentation
proving the value of
illegal immigrants. No flowers and fluff, just the facts. All of your
overly humanist nonsense
will disappear as Americans crowd on each other. Coming events will
make the NFL boring!
Enjoy yourselves.
Ramon F. Herrera
Oct 23, 2012, 6:05:34 PM10/23/12
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On Oct 23, 4:23 pm, walt tonne <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Folks, I don't create these demographic changes. I merely publish with
> some editorial comment.
>
[Walt The Sincere:]
> Folks, I don't create these demographic changes. I merely publish with
> some editorial comment.
>
> I am still waiting for someone to post a feature/benefit
> presentation proving the value of illegal immigrants.
> No flowers and fluff, just the facts.
IOW, I must skip the support of EVERY church in America to a Path to
> presentation proving the value of illegal immigrants.
> No flowers and fluff, just the facts.
Legalization/Citizenship and focus instead on the support of EVERY
company in America (plus academia and governments), correcto?
-Ramon
plainolamerican
Oct 23, 2012, 6:07:25 PM10/23/12
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a myth
walt tonne
Oct 23, 2012, 6:16:18 PM10/23/12
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IOW, I must skip the support of EVERY church in America to a Path to
Legalization/Citizenship and focus instead on the support of EVERY
company in America (plus academia and governments), correcto?
Ramon, just who gives a fuck what the churches promote? Academia
Legalization/Citizenship and focus instead on the support of EVERY
company in America (plus academia and governments), correcto?
is not generally considered a realistic pond of realistic politics.
Klaus Schadenfreude
Oct 23, 2012, 6:27:41 PM10/23/12
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>"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>On Oct 23, 2:19 pm, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> >walt tonne <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>> >The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
>> >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
>> >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
>> >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>>
>> >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>>
>
> > Have you always hated the Constitution, or did you just
> > start recently?
>
>Walt, Judy The GM Drunkie, you, NumbersUSA, FAIR, CIS and ALL those
>against the Path to Legalization (the one that DOES NOT exist) are on
>the EXACT same side.
They all like pizza too.
WTF is wrong with you, Ramon? Why do you go out of your way to look so
fucking stupid?
Are you aware of the damage you're causing the Democratic Party by not
being able to think?
>On Oct 23, 2:19 pm, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> >walt tonne <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>> >The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
>> >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
>> >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
>> >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>>
>> >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>>
>
> > Have you always hated the Constitution, or did you just
> > start recently?
>
>Walt, Judy The GM Drunkie, you, NumbersUSA, FAIR, CIS and ALL those
>against the Path to Legalization (the one that DOES NOT exist) are on
>the EXACT same side.
WTF is wrong with you, Ramon? Why do you go out of your way to look so
fucking stupid?
Are you aware of the damage you're causing the Democratic Party by not
being able to think?
Klaus Schadenfreude
Oct 23, 2012, 6:29:10 PM10/23/12
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>Folks, I don't create these demographic changes. I merely publish with
>some editorial comment.
>
>I am still waiting for someone to post a feature/benefit presentation
>proving the value of
>illegal immigrants.
Really? Because you weren't talking about illegal immigrants in this
>some editorial comment.
>
>I am still waiting for someone to post a feature/benefit presentation
>proving the value of
>illegal immigrants.
post.
::The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
::million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
::Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
::Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
Put down your meth pipe and focus, Walt.
::Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
::Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
Ramon F. Herrera
Oct 23, 2012, 6:29:33 PM10/23/12
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On Oct 23, 5:16 pm, walt tonne <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> IOW, I must skip the support of EVERY church in America to a Path to
> Legalization/Citizenship and focus instead on the support of EVERY
> company in America (plus academia and governments), correcto?
>
> Ramon, just who gives a fuck what the churches promote?
Some people do. Too many, if you ask me.
> IOW, I must skip the support of EVERY church in America to a Path to
> Legalization/Citizenship and focus instead on the support of EVERY
> company in America (plus academia and governments), correcto?
>
> Ramon, just who gives a fuck what the churches promote?
> Academia is not generally considered a realistic pond
> of realistic politics.
Hoover Dam, the Human Genome Project, the iPhone, Google ALL come from
Academia. That's just for starters. We could include the pyramids, la
Tour Eiffel (pardon my French), Panama Canal...
-Ramon
Klaus Schadenfreude
Oct 23, 2012, 6:29:53 PM10/23/12
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>Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>
>by William Scott
>
>[This article illustrates the Jewish view on immigration,
We weren't talking about immigration, you dumb nazi fuck
[chuckle]
>
>by William Scott
>
>[This article illustrates the Jewish view on immigration,
[chuckle]
Ramon F. Herrera
Oct 23, 2012, 6:33:09 PM10/23/12
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On Oct 23, 5:29 pm, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> We weren't talking about immigration, you dumb nazi fuck
precise.
-Ramon
ps: YES, we were talking about immigration.
Klaus Schadenfreude
Oct 23, 2012, 8:48:48 PM10/23/12
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>On Oct 23, 5:29 pm, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
> > We weren't talking about immigration, you dumb nazi fuck
>
>All the Nazis are on your side.
You have no idea what "side" I'm on. I know what side YOU are one,
>wrote:
>
> > We weren't talking about immigration, you dumb nazi fuck
>
>All the Nazis are on your side.
though.
The racist, Democrat side.
Elwood Shively
Oct 23, 2012, 7:09:15 PM10/23/12
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Ramon is a foreign transplant originally from Venezuela, probably a
beaner terrorist, and definitely a Fraud. Ramon F Herrera also goes by
"Cambridge Ray," "Google Poster," "Lucius Sanctimonious," and
"Hadron." An ultra-left, open-borders pretend-American. He lives and
works in Houston, TX. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.
Ramon F Herrera
13313 Cutten Rd, Apt 7102
Houston, TX 77069-2374
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On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 17:09:10 -0700 (PDT), Ramon F Herrera
<gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote:
>Re: Now Romney is FOR ObamaCare
LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I say we're going to replace Obamacare. And I'm replacing it with my
own plan. And even in Massachusetts when I was governor, our plan
there deals with pre-existing conditions and with young people,"
Romney told "Meet the Press."
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/romney-keep-parts-obamacare/2012/09/09/id/451193
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beaner terrorist, and definitely a Fraud. Ramon F Herrera also goes by
"Cambridge Ray," "Google Poster," "Lucius Sanctimonious," and
"Hadron." An ultra-left, open-borders pretend-American. He lives and
works in Houston, TX. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.
Ramon F Herrera
13313 Cutten Rd, Apt 7102
Houston, TX 77069-2374
[][][][][][]
The DemocRAT Hall Of Shame http://www.democrathallofshame.com/ asks
"Why do you always LIE?"
[Courtesy of Buster Norris]
On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 17:09:10 -0700 (PDT), Ramon F Herrera
<gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote:
>Re: Now Romney is FOR ObamaCare
LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I say we're going to replace Obamacare. And I'm replacing it with my
own plan. And even in Massachusetts when I was governor, our plan
there deals with pre-existing conditions and with young people,"
Romney told "Meet the Press."
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/romney-keep-parts-obamacare/2012/09/09/id/451193
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Oct 23, 2012, 7:09:26 PM10/23/12
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Ramon is a foreign transplant originally from Venezuela, probably a
beaner terrorist, and definitely a Fraud. Ramon F Herrera also goes by
"Cambridge Ray," "Google Poster," "Lucius Sanctimonious," and
"Hadron." An ultra-left, open-borders pretend-American. He lives and
works in Houston, TX. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.
Ramon F Herrera
13313 Cutten Rd, Apt 7102
Houston, TX 77069-2374
[][][][][][]
The DemocRAT Hall Of Shame http://www.democrathallofshame.com/ asks
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[Courtesy of Buster Norris]
On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 06:41:32 -0700 (PDT), "Ramon F. Herrera"
beaner terrorist, and definitely a Fraud. Ramon F Herrera also goes by
"Cambridge Ray," "Google Poster," "Lucius Sanctimonious," and
"Hadron." An ultra-left, open-borders pretend-American. He lives and
works in Houston, TX. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.
Ramon F Herrera
13313 Cutten Rd, Apt 7102
Houston, TX 77069-2374
[][][][][][]
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[Courtesy of Buster Norris]
<ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>In the hypocritical way preferred by right wingers, candidate Romney
>acknowledges that President Obama will trounce him in the debates:
>http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/14/romney-president-will-lie-in-debates/
LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I think the challenge that I'll have in the debate is that the
president tends to, how shall I say it, to say things that aren't
true," Romney said..............
Vernice Austin Landrum
Oct 23, 2012, 7:09:39 PM10/23/12
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Ramon is a foreign transplant originally from Venezuela, probably a
beaner terrorist, and definitely a Fraud. Ramon F Herrera also goes by
"Cambridge Ray," "Google Poster," "Lucius Sanctimonious," and
"Hadron." An ultra-left, open-borders pretend-American. He lives and
works in Houston, TX. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.
Ramon F Herrera
13313 Cutten Rd, Apt 7102
Houston, TX 77069-2374
[][][][][][]
The DemocRAT Hall Of Shame http://www.democrathallofshame.com/ asks
"Why do you always LIE?"
Frauds are BUSTED and EXPOSED:
beaner terrorist, and definitely a Fraud. Ramon F Herrera also goes by
"Cambridge Ray," "Google Poster," "Lucius Sanctimonious," and
"Hadron." An ultra-left, open-borders pretend-American. He lives and
works in Houston, TX. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.
Ramon F Herrera
13313 Cutten Rd, Apt 7102
Houston, TX 77069-2374
[][][][][][]
The DemocRAT Hall Of Shame http://www.democrathallofshame.com/ asks
"Why do you always LIE?"
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"Mike Huckabee" <Ind...@bass.gov> wrote in news:5086f139$0$9822
$607e...@cv.net:
Walt is a racist piece of crap who is going to be terminated in the first
round. My fondest hope is to rid ourseves of the race hustlers on both
sides and try and get along with each other for a couple of decades anyway.
--
Refusenik #1
Libs suffer from Eleutherophobia. And there is no cure.
$607e...@cv.net:
round. My fondest hope is to rid ourseves of the race hustlers on both
sides and try and get along with each other for a couple of decades anyway.
--
Refusenik #1
Libs suffer from Eleutherophobia. And there is no cure.
mg
Oct 25, 2012, 5:15:32 AM10/25/12
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cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries is to have more
Muslims in the country.
Ramon F. Herrera
Oct 25, 2012, 7:24:35 AM10/25/12
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On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>
> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
> >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
> >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
> >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>
> >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>
> The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
> and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
> is to have more Muslims in the country.
I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
> >The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
> >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
> >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
> >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>
> >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>
> The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
> and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
> is to have more Muslims in the country.
Christianity, tolerance... not to mention the use of deodorant. See
below.
-Ramon
-----------------------------------
"If current Hispanic voting and demographic trends continue (*), as
early as 2020 the Republican party will be unable to get enough
electoral college votes to win another presidential election EVER"
- The Wall Street Journal, not quite a liberal rag
(*) The trends have accelerated, thanks to Arizona and the Tea Party.
http://swampland.time.com/2012/02/22/why-the-latino-vote-in-arizona-could-be-decisive-in-2012/
Here's the Short Version:
http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/Guns-R-Us.gif
Political pundits are trying to determine how long will it be between
the time Hispanics become a majority in Texas (already are, in
Houston) and the time the GOP ceases to be a national political party.
"Revenge is a dish better served in the voting booth" -Moi
Klaus Schadenfreude
Oct 25, 2012, 7:42:30 AM10/25/12
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>"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>>
>> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
>> >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
>> >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
>> >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>>
>> >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>>
>
>
> > The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
> > and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
> > is to have more Muslims in the country.
>
>
>I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
>Christianity, tolerance...
Values like this, you mean?
http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/mexico_drug_war_2011/bp3.jpg
http://warlordrosdet.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/mexicodrugwarsbodiesimage.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9WyrcpaKRwA/To6MRDBjdgI/AAAAAAAAAfo/59Z-bfyYQQQ/s1600/MexicoDrugWarDHeadsImage.jpg
>On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>>
>> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
>> >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
>> >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
>> >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>>
>> >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>>
>
>
> > The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
> > and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
> > is to have more Muslims in the country.
>
>
>I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
>Christianity, tolerance...
http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/mexico_drug_war_2011/bp3.jpg
http://warlordrosdet.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/mexicodrugwarsbodiesimage.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9WyrcpaKRwA/To6MRDBjdgI/AAAAAAAAAfo/59Z-bfyYQQQ/s1600/MexicoDrugWarDHeadsImage.jpg
Ramon F. Herrera
Oct 25, 2012, 7:51:15 AM10/25/12
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On Oct 25, 6:24 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>
> > <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
> > >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
> > >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
> > >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>
> > >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>
> > The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
> > and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
> > is to have more Muslims in the country.
>
> I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
> Christianity, tolerance... not to mention the use of deodorant. See
> below.
>
> -Ramon
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> "If current Hispanic voting and demographic trends continue (*), as
> early as 2020 the Republican party will be unable to get enough
> electoral college votes to win another presidential election EVER"
>
> - The Wall Street Journal, not quite a liberal rag
>
> (*) The trends have accelerated, thanks to Arizona and the Tea Party.
>
> http://swampland.time.com/2012/02/22/why-the-latino-vote-in-arizona-c...
> On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>
> > <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
> > >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
> > >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
> > >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>
> > >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>
> > The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
> > and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
> > is to have more Muslims in the country.
>
> I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
> Christianity, tolerance... not to mention the use of deodorant. See
> below.
>
> -Ramon
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> "If current Hispanic voting and demographic trends continue (*), as
> early as 2020 the Republican party will be unable to get enough
> electoral college votes to win another presidential election EVER"
>
> - The Wall Street Journal, not quite a liberal rag
>
> (*) The trends have accelerated, thanks to Arizona and the Tea Party.
>
>
> Here's the Short Version:http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/Guns-R-Us.gif
>
> Political pundits are trying to determine how long will it be between
> the time Hispanics become a majority in Texas (already are, in
> Houston) and the time the GOP ceases to be a national political party.
>
> "Revenge is a dish better served in the voting booth" -Moi
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/24/obama-confident-about-immigration-reform-in-a-second-term/?hpt=hp_t2
> Here's the Short Version:http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/Guns-R-Us.gif
>
> Political pundits are trying to determine how long will it be between
> the time Hispanics become a majority in Texas (already are, in
> Houston) and the time the GOP ceases to be a national political party.
>
> "Revenge is a dish better served in the voting booth" -Moi
-Ramon
Ramon F. Herrera
Oct 25, 2012, 7:53:16 AM10/25/12
to
On Oct 25, 6:42 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Every dollar, every bullet, every dead is financed by your cocaine
addicted neighbor and kids.
Speaking of primitive values:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0217505/
-Ramon
wrote:
> >"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
> >On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>
> >> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
> >> >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
> >> >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
> >> >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>
> >> >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>
> > > The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
> > > and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
> > > is to have more Muslims in the country.
>
> >I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
> >Christianity, tolerance...
>
> Values like this, you mean?
>
> http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/...http://warlordrosdet.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/mexicodrugwarsbodies...http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9WyrcpaKRwA/To6MRDBjdgI/AAAAAAAAAfo/59Z-bfy...
> >On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>
> >> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
> >> >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
> >> >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
> >> >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>
> >> >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>
> > > The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
> > > and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
> > > is to have more Muslims in the country.
>
> >I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
> >Christianity, tolerance...
>
> Values like this, you mean?
>
Every dollar, every bullet, every dead is financed by your cocaine
addicted neighbor and kids.
Speaking of primitive values:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0217505/
-Ramon
Ramon F. Herrera
Oct 25, 2012, 8:00:26 AM10/25/12
to
> >"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
> >On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>
> >> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
> >> >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
> >> >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
> >> >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>
> >> >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>
> > > The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
> > > and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
> > > is to have more Muslims in the country.
>
> >I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
> >Christianity, tolerance...
>
> Values like this, you mean?
Don't you know the "Herrera's Motto"? (*)
> >On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>
> >> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
> >> >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
> >> >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
> >> >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>
> >> >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>
> > > The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
> > > and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
> > > is to have more Muslims in the country.
>
> >I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
> >Christianity, tolerance...
>
> Values like this, you mean?
We only want the GOOD ones.
-Ramon
(*) Or was it the Herrera Maxim? the Herrera Principle? the Ramon
Premise? I have so many, I get confused.
Klaus Schadenfreude
Oct 25, 2012, 8:13:02 AM10/25/12
to
>"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>On Oct 25, 6:42 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> >"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>> >On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>>
>> >> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
>> >> >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
>> >> >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
>> >> >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>>
>> >> >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>>
>> > > The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
>> > > and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
>> > > is to have more Muslims in the country.
>>
>> >I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
>> >Christianity, tolerance...
>>
>> Values like this, you mean?
>>
>> http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/...http://warlordrosdet.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/mexicodrugwarsbodies...http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9WyrcpaKRwA/To6MRDBjdgI/AAAAAAAAAfo/59Z-bfy...
>
>
>Every dollar, every bullet, every dead is financed by your cocaine
>addicted neighbor and kids.
Yep, and those pictures- the links to which you snipped out of
>On Oct 25, 6:42 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> >"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>> >On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>>
>> >> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
>> >> >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
>> >> >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
>> >> >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>>
>> >> >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>>
>> > > The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
>> > > and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
>> > > is to have more Muslims in the country.
>>
>> >I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
>> >Christianity, tolerance...
>>
>> Values like this, you mean?
>>
>> http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/...http://warlordrosdet.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/mexicodrugwarsbodies...http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9WyrcpaKRwA/To6MRDBjdgI/AAAAAAAAAfo/59Z-bfy...
>
>
>Every dollar, every bullet, every dead is financed by your cocaine
>addicted neighbor and kids.
embarrassment- shows how Hispanic values and tolerance are practiced
when the heat is on.
Here they are again.
Values like this, you mean?
Klaus Schadenfreude
Oct 25, 2012, 8:14:33 AM10/25/12
to
>"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>On Oct 25, 6:42 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> >"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>> >On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>>
>> >> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
>> >> >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
>> >> >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
>> >> >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>>
>> >> >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>>
>> > > The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
>> > > and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
>> > > is to have more Muslims in the country.
>>
>> >I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
>> >Christianity, tolerance...
>>
>
> > Values like this, you mean?
>
>Don't you know the "Herrera's Motto"? (*)
>
> We only want the GOOD ones.
IOW, you ignore the BAD ones.
>On Oct 25, 6:42 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> >"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>> >On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>>
>> >> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
>> >> >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
>> >> >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
>> >> >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>>
>> >> >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>>
>> > > The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
>> > > and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
>> > > is to have more Muslims in the country.
>>
>> >I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
>> >Christianity, tolerance...
>>
>
> > Values like this, you mean?
>
>Don't you know the "Herrera's Motto"? (*)
>
> We only want the GOOD ones.
Like the ones responsible for these
http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/mexico_drug_war_2011/bp3.jpg
http://warlordrosdet.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/mexicodrugwarsbodiesimage.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9WyrcpaKRwA/To6MRDBjdgI/AAAAAAAAAfo/59Z-bfyYQQQ/s1600/MexicoDrugWarDHeadsImage.jpg
Ramon F. Herrera
Oct 25, 2012, 8:18:59 AM10/25/12
to
On Oct 25, 7:13 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
- I don't do drugs
- I don't arm Mexican warlords
- I am immune to attempts to make me feel embarrassed/ashamed.
-Ramon
wrote:
> >"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
> >On Oct 25, 6:42 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
> >wrote:
> >> >"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
> >> >On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>
> >> >> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
> >> >> >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
> >> >> >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
> >> >> >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>
> >> >> >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>
> >> > > The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
> >> > > and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
> >> > > is to have more Muslims in the country.
>
> >> >I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
> >> >Christianity, tolerance...
>
> >> Values like this, you mean?
>
> >>http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/......
> >"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
> >On Oct 25, 6:42 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
> >wrote:
> >> >"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
> >> >On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>
> >> >> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
> >> >> >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
> >> >> >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
> >> >> >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>
> >> >> >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>
> >> > > The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
> >> > > and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
> >> > > is to have more Muslims in the country.
>
> >> >I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
> >> >Christianity, tolerance...
>
> >> Values like this, you mean?
>
>
> >Every dollar, every bullet, every dead is financed by your cocaine
> >addicted neighbor and kids.
>
> Yep, and those pictures- the links to which you snipped out of
> embarrassment-
Embarrassment as American? Not really!
> >Every dollar, every bullet, every dead is financed by your cocaine
> >addicted neighbor and kids.
>
> Yep, and those pictures- the links to which you snipped out of
> embarrassment-
- I don't do drugs
- I don't arm Mexican warlords
- I am immune to attempts to make me feel embarrassed/ashamed.
-Ramon
Ramon F. Herrera
Oct 25, 2012, 8:21:07 AM10/25/12
to
On Oct 25, 7:14 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
Citizenship.
Actually, to be precise: we don't ignore them, we prosecute and jail
them.
-Ramon Speaking on Behalf of the Hispanic Community and the White
House.
wrote:
> >"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
> >On Oct 25, 6:42 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
> >wrote:
> >> >"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
> >> >On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>
> >> >> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
> >> >> >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
> >> >> >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
> >> >> >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>
> >> >> >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>
> >> > > The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
> >> > > and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
> >> > > is to have more Muslims in the country.
>
> >> >I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
> >> >Christianity, tolerance...
>
> > > Values like this, you mean?
>
> >Don't you know the "Herrera's Motto"? (*)
>
> > We only want the GOOD ones.
>
> IOW, you ignore the BAD ones.
Yes, duh! That is a basic principle of a Path to Legalization/
> >"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
> >On Oct 25, 6:42 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
> >wrote:
> >> >"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
> >> >On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>
> >> >> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
> >> >> >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
> >> >> >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
> >> >> >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>
> >> >> >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>
> >> > > The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
> >> > > and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
> >> > > is to have more Muslims in the country.
>
> >> >I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
> >> >Christianity, tolerance...
>
> > > Values like this, you mean?
>
> >Don't you know the "Herrera's Motto"? (*)
>
> > We only want the GOOD ones.
>
> IOW, you ignore the BAD ones.
Citizenship.
Actually, to be precise: we don't ignore them, we prosecute and jail
them.
-Ramon Speaking on Behalf of the Hispanic Community and the White
House.
Ramon F. Herrera
Oct 25, 2012, 8:22:53 AM10/25/12
to
On Oct 23, 2:19 pm, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
the "anti-immigrants", wink, wink).
-Ramon
wrote:
> >walt tonne <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
> >The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
> >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
> >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
> >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>
> >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>
> >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
> >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
> >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>
> >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>
> Have you always hated the Constitution, or did you just start
> recently?
At least my buddy Walt is sincere and has his act together... (unlike
> recently?
the "anti-immigrants", wink, wink).
-Ramon
Alias
Oct 25, 2012, 8:29:54 AM10/25/12
to
would have never occurred. Oops. Legalize drugs and the drug lords will
be out of business in ONE DAY. The reason drugs were made illegal in the
first place was due to racism so the values you talk about are?
--
Alias
Ramon F. Herrera
Oct 25, 2012, 8:31:33 AM10/25/12
to
On Oct 25, 7:14 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Photos courtesy of Hispanic Obama supporters.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/24/sport/mlb-world-series/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pablo_Sandoval
I also have a stack of photos of Miss Venezuelas/Miss Universes
(ooops, was that redundant???) but I have the feeling that you are of
the Pablo Sandoval-preferring persuasion....
-Ramon
ps: Oooops, almost forgot my amigo and colleague, professor Rafael
Reif. We worked together at MIT, with Al Gore, too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Reif
Klaus Schadenfreude
Oct 25, 2012, 8:33:59 AM10/25/12
to
Try and focus.
Klaus Schadenfreude
Oct 25, 2012, 8:35:01 AM10/25/12
to
Do you have ANY idea of the long term damage you're doing to the
Democratic Party?
Klaus Schadenfreude
Oct 25, 2012, 8:36:00 AM10/25/12
to
You must beat off to photos of HItler, then, huh?
Klaus Schadenfreude
Oct 25, 2012, 8:37:04 AM10/25/12
to
>Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>On 10/25/2012 1:42 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>>
>>> On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>>>>
>>>> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
>>>>> million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
>>>>> Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
>>>>> Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>>>>
>>>>> The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
>>>> and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
>>>> is to have more Muslims in the country.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
>>> Christianity, tolerance...
>>
>> Values like this, you mean?
>>
>> http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/mexico_drug_war_2011/bp3.jpg
>> http://warlordrosdet.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/mexicodrugwarsbodiesimage.jpg
>> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9WyrcpaKRwA/To6MRDBjdgI/AAAAAAAAAfo/59Z-bfyYQQQ/s1600/MexicoDrugWarDHeadsImage.jpg
>>
>
>If the USA didn't have such a high demand for drugs, the above murders
>would have never occurred.
LOL
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
It's one thing to murder.
It's another thing to do it in the "Christian" and "tolerant" way as
shown in the pictures.
>On 10/25/2012 1:42 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>>
>>> On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>>>>
>>>> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
>>>>> million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
>>>>> Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
>>>>> Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>>>>
>>>>> The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
>>>> and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
>>>> is to have more Muslims in the country.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
>>> Christianity, tolerance...
>>
>> Values like this, you mean?
>>
>> http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/mexico_drug_war_2011/bp3.jpg
>> http://warlordrosdet.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/mexicodrugwarsbodiesimage.jpg
>> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9WyrcpaKRwA/To6MRDBjdgI/AAAAAAAAAfo/59Z-bfyYQQQ/s1600/MexicoDrugWarDHeadsImage.jpg
>>
>
>If the USA didn't have such a high demand for drugs, the above murders
>would have never occurred.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
It's one thing to murder.
It's another thing to do it in the "Christian" and "tolerant" way as
shown in the pictures.
Klaus Schadenfreude
Oct 25, 2012, 8:37:55 AM10/25/12
to
http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/mexico_drug_war_2011/bp3.jpg
http://warlordrosdet.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/mexicodrugwarsbodiesimage.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9WyrcpaKRwA/To6MRDBjdgI/AAAAAAAAAfo/59Z-bfyYQQQ/s1600/MexicoDrugWarDHeadsImage.jpg
http://warlordrosdet.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/mexicodrugwarsbodiesimage.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9WyrcpaKRwA/To6MRDBjdgI/AAAAAAAAAfo/59Z-bfyYQQQ/s1600/MexicoDrugWarDHeadsImage.jpg
> > Photos courtesy of Hispanic Obama supporters.
>
>That was very sweet of you to notice!!!
It's hard NOT to notice.
>
>That was very sweet of you to notice!!!
You people are sick.
Alias
Oct 25, 2012, 9:36:36 AM10/25/12
to
drugs in the USA is because there is a demand. Duh! No demand, no sales.
Double duh.
How come you snipped this:
Klaus Schadenfreude
Oct 25, 2012, 9:46:25 AM10/25/12
to
before you make yourself look like an idiot.
Ooops.
too late!
Alias
Oct 25, 2012, 9:52:11 AM10/25/12
to
what's posted. Fuck off.
--
Alias
Klaus Schadenfreude
Oct 25, 2012, 10:12:13 AM10/25/12
to
Sorry to embarrass you like that, but you really should read what's
quoted before you make yourself look like a total dumb fuck.
Alias
Oct 25, 2012, 10:48:03 AM10/25/12
to
This is what I posted:
If the USA didn't have such a high demand for drugs, the above murders
be out of business in ONE DAY. The reason drugs were made illegal in the
first place was due to racism so the values you talk about are?
Can you reply to that instead of what was posted before without snipping
first place was due to racism so the values you talk about are?
and cherry picking?
--
Alias, not holding his breath.
Klaus Schadenfreude
Oct 25, 2012, 11:15:16 AM10/25/12
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What the fuck is the matter with you?
Alias
Oct 25, 2012, 11:29:05 AM10/25/12
to
>
> What the fuck is the matter with you?
>
--
Alias
Klaus Schadenfreude
Oct 25, 2012, 11:34:52 AM10/25/12
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Subject: Re: Muslims in USA count more than double in 10 years.
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 05:37:04 -0700
Message-ID: <qhci88p3hild5rpc5...@4ax.com>
So I guess we can add "blind" and "forgetful" to "illiterate" and
"unfocused" when we describe you.
>> What the fuck is the matter with you?
>>
>
>Unlike you, logic isn't a problem for me.
seen.
Alias
Oct 25, 2012, 11:44:26 AM10/25/12
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"LOL
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight."
That isn't a credible reply, sorry, and doesn't count as a reply.
--
Alias
Wayne
Oct 25, 2012, 11:44:10 AM10/25/12
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"Ramon F. Herrera" wrote in message
news:0909a289-36a2-4391...@m4g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>
> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
> >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
> >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
> >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>
> >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>
> The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
> and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
> is to have more Muslims in the country.
# Christianity, tolerance... not to mention the use of deodorant. See
# below.
# -Ramon
# -----------------------------------
# "If current Hispanic voting and demographic trends continue (*), as
# early as 2020 the Republican party will be unable to get enough
# electoral college votes to win another presidential election EVER"
That only happens if all Hispanic vote is determined by whoever promotes
illegal immigration.
Hispanics are not dumb and will realize that their own best interests are
the best interests of everyone else, regardless of their ethnic background.
mg
Oct 25, 2012, 11:54:33 AM10/25/12
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 04:24:35 -0700 (PDT), "Ramon F. Herrera"
<ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>On Oct 25, 4:15�am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>>
>> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
>> >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
>> >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
>> >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>>
>> >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>>
>
>
> > The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
> > and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
> > is to have more Muslims in the country.
>
>
<ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>On Oct 25, 4:15�am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>>
>> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
>> >million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
>> >Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
>> >Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>>
>> >The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>>
>
>
> > The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
> > and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
> > is to have more Muslims in the country.
>
>
>I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
>Christianity, tolerance... not to mention the use of deodorant. See
>below.
>
>-Ramon
I do agree that's a better solution, or maybe partial solution, and
it's more practical, and besides that, it's also very likely. However,
people have short memories, and it won't be long before the Republican
propaganda machine has a lot of Hispanics in their pocket, and
Christianity isn't really all that tolerant. In fact, it was the
Christians who were beating the war drums the loudest before the Iraqi
invasion.
>-----------------------------------
>
>"If current Hispanic voting and demographic trends continue (*), as
>"If current Hispanic voting and demographic trends continue (*), as
>early as 2020 the Republican party will be unable to get enough
>electoral college votes to win another presidential election EVER"
>
>
>- The Wall Street Journal, not quite a liberal rag
>
>(*) The trends have accelerated, thanks to Arizona and the Tea Party.
>
>http://swampland.time.com/2012/02/22/why-the-latino-vote-in-arizona-could-be-decisive-in-2012/
>
>(*) The trends have accelerated, thanks to Arizona and the Tea Party.
>
BeamMeUpScotty
Oct 25, 2012, 11:55:58 AM10/25/12
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Klaus Schadenfreude
Oct 25, 2012, 11:59:09 AM10/25/12
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>Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>> 'Fraid so. You even responded to it.
>
>If what you are referring to is
>
>"LOL
>Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight."
>
>That isn't a credible reply, sorry, and doesn't count as a reply.
So you ARE illiterate. What's the matter, your Commodore 64 can't
>
>If what you are referring to is
>
>"LOL
>Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight."
>
>That isn't a credible reply, sorry, and doesn't count as a reply.
display enough lines at once?
[chuckle]
BeamMeUpScotty
Oct 25, 2012, 12:07:29 PM10/25/12
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On 10/25/2012 8:37 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
drugs creating the drug lords.
Simply sell the drugs legally and pull the rug out from under the drug
lords by letting capitalism pull the rug out from under them the same
way alcohol Prohibition being repealed damaged the bootleggers and
smugglers.....
If the people are willing to ignore the laws then the laws will never
work..... because you will have to become like the NAZI's and
micromanage and end up murdering these same people with government troops.
The War On Drugs is a failure, cutour budget by making drugs legal and
quit filling expensive jail cells with drug users.
The problem with the Liberals Sequestration is that it cuts the wrong
parts of government....
Start with the parts we need the least.
Legalize drugs and tax it at the pharmacy with a sales tax.
How many bootlegger Mob killing are there today over alcohol turf.
BeamMeUpScotty
Oct 25, 2012, 12:12:45 PM10/25/12
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>> On Oct 25, 6:42 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>>>> On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>>>>> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
>>>>>> million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
>>>>>> Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
>>>>>> Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>>>>>> The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>>>>> The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
>>>>> and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
>>>>> is to have more Muslims in the country.
>>>> I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
>>>> Christianity, tolerance...
>>> Values like this, you mean?
>>>
>>> http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/...http://warlordrosdet.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/mexicodrugwarsbodies...http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9WyrcpaKRwA/To6MRDBjdgI/AAAAAAAAAfo/59Z-bfy...
>>>> "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>>>> On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>>>>> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
>>>>>> million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
>>>>>> Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
>>>>>> Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>>>>>> The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>>>>> The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
>>>>> and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
>>>>> is to have more Muslims in the country.
>>>> I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
>>>> Christianity, tolerance...
>>> Values like this, you mean?
>>>
>>
>> Every dollar, every bullet, every dead is financed by your cocaine
>> addicted neighbor and kids.
TAX FREE COCAINE because it is an underground economy....
>> Every dollar, every bullet, every dead is financed by your cocaine
>> addicted neighbor and kids.
If it were everywhere and taxed it would be paying for it's own
monitoring and then some for the deficit. The money would be spread out
with the capitalism magic of competition.
Mike Huckabee
Oct 25, 2012, 12:47:30 PM10/25/12
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"BeamMeUpScotty" wrote in message
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Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
EDUCATING children at a very young age, is very smart.
Start a program in all public and private schools, at 4th grade, that has
a MANDATORY MOVIE, (show an updated movie once every month or so) that shows
the ; "THIS WILL HAPPEN TO YOU! GANGSTA'S ARE RETARDS! If you use, abuse,
sell, or deal DRUGS THAT MAKE YOU DUMBER!"
Also, "Don't forget your rubbers!" for the safety of the
promiscuous/frisky minded!
I still remember the "Death behind the Wheel" movies that I we had to watch
in "Driver's ED" class, prior to getting my permit to operate a car in '75.
Alias
Oct 25, 2012, 1:11:10 PM10/25/12
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On 10/25/2012 6:47 PM, Mike Huckabee wrote:
> Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
You are very stupid. When it was legal, it wasn't a problem. It became
> Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
illegal only to give the cops more ways to bust blacks and Latinos. Eg.,
planting the drugs when they had nothing else.
--
Alias
Alias
Oct 25, 2012, 1:11:41 PM10/25/12
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--
Alias
Mike Huckabee
Oct 25, 2012, 1:21:01 PM10/25/12
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"Alias" wrote in message news:k6brsi$lur$2...@dont-email.me...
And yet from the start, you couldn't scroll up to see who mentioned what,
yet alone see who had the answered questions you asked beforehand!
I am not stunned to see how ignorant and retarded you want to be seen to the
world as.
Mike Huckabee
Oct 25, 2012, 1:34:48 PM10/25/12
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"Alias" wrote in message news:k6brrj$lur$1...@dont-email.me...
On 10/25/2012 6:47 PM, Mike Huckabee wrote:
>> Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
> You are very stupid. When it was legal, it wasn't a problem.
Mind if I quote/paraphrase you on that?
"Cocaine, Opium, heroin, and LSD abuse and addictions was never an issue
when it was legal!" <---- 'Alias' 10/25/2012
How Smurphy!
> It became
illegal only to give the cops more ways to bust blacks and Latinos. Eg.,
planting the drugs when they had nothing else.
Good thing there weren't any WHITE PUNKS ON DOPE!
Oh wait! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkdQyyChTlw
BeamMeUpScotty
Oct 25, 2012, 2:08:40 PM10/25/12
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But that didn't work as well as legalizing alcohol to bust up all the
Mobs. It took their money away.
Capitalism and competition did what a war on organized crime couldn't
do, and today the more laws we have the more Mobsters and gangs and Drug
lords we have.
BeamMeUpScotty
Oct 25, 2012, 2:22:35 PM10/25/12
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which is why Lawyers will never allow us to end the WAR ON DRUGS, it is
paying for their Mercedes and that BIG HOUSE and the $4,000.00 suit they
wear to court.
ENOUGH WITH THE PROPAGANDA FILMS....
Rich kids do drugs and over dose just like poor kids. So the problem
isn't that they are poor dumb kid stuck in a cycle of poverty.
> I still remember the "Death behind the Wheel" movies that I we had to
> watch in "Driver's ED" class, prior to getting my permit to operate a
> car in '75.
>
don't fear dieing in a bloody car crash.... I predict more will die
prematurely of physical and mental stress caused from an economic melt
down. It's NOT the food shortages and prices and the rotating
electric black-outs that will kill, but the bad diets stressing us along
with mental stress that will kill the most people.
--
*Rumination*
#27 - Liberalism is an intellectual blackhole.
Espanuelo
Oct 25, 2012, 4:24:43 PM10/25/12
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> wrote:
>>> "Ramon F. Herrera"<ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>>> On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg<mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>>
>>>> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
>>>>> million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
>>>>> Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
>>>>> Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>>
>>>>> The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>>
>>>> The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
>>>> and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
>>>> is to have more Muslims in the country.
>>
>>> I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
>>> Christianity, tolerance...
>>
>> Values like this, you mean?
>>
>>> "Ramon F. Herrera"<ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>>> On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg<mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>>
>>>> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
>>>>> million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
>>>>> Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
>>>>> Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>>
>>>>> The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>>
>>>> The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
>>>> and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
>>>> is to have more Muslims in the country.
>>
>>> I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
>>> Christianity, tolerance...
>>
>> Values like this, you mean?
>>
>> http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/...http://warlordrosdet.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/mexicodrugwarsbodies...http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9WyrcpaKRwA/To6MRDBjdgI/AAAAAAAAAfo/59Z-bfy...
>
>
> Every dollar, every bullet, every dead is financed by your cocaine
> addicted neighbor and kids.
But you are against the legalization of drugs,
>
>
> Every dollar, every bullet, every dead is financed by your cocaine
> addicted neighbor and kids.
then you are also guilty.
>
> Speaking of primitive values:
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0217505/
>
> -Ramon
>
Mike Huckabee
Oct 25, 2012, 2:41:39 PM10/25/12
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"BeamMeUpScotty" wrote in message
news:5089836...@blackhole.nebulax.com...
It's not really "propaganda filmage" , as I see it.
I look at them as EDUCATIONAL films that should SCARE KIDS, KEEPING
STRAIGHT!
Show the dead bodies!
It has Nothing to do with "rich or poor" or white or black.
The ultimate message is: "You DIE like this, when you deal drugs."
> I still remember the "Death behind the Wheel" movies that I we had to
> watch in "Driver's ED" class, prior to getting my permit to operate a
> car in '75.
>
And they are just as funny today with their crude "propaganda" and I
don't fear dieing in a bloody car crash....
Funny?
How often DO you drive drunk, or approve of others doing it?
BeamMeUpScotty
Oct 25, 2012, 2:59:43 PM10/25/12
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The problem is the drinks make a lot of people stupid.
Diabetics and a host of other eye and medical problems are much more
dangerous but they can't be cheaply and easily tested for, and then
prosecuted for big profits for the local governments.
I've never had a DUI or any driving problem that hurt anyone.
But I know someone that had 5 different cars wrecked (not by him
personally but his family members) in one year and they only received a
ticket once and that was a questionable call where the semi turning left
didn't have a blinker on and looked like it was parked on an empty
road. Then a truck ran a light and took the whole front of a little
diesel Volkswagen off. They totaled two of the cars....
His daughter was rear ended at a red light while at a complete stop and
I forget the other two minor ones.... because they had no
hospital/doctor visits.
Oh and no drinkers.... everyone was sober.
RD Sandman
Oct 25, 2012, 3:11:40 PM10/25/12
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Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote in news:k6brrj$lur$1@dont-
email.me:
Drug laws in the US started with the Chinese laborers in California in
the late 1800's. A state law was passed forbidding opium to be smoked
(the most common way those laborers used it) while ignoring opium that
was "eaten" the most common usage among white folk.
--
Democracy means that anyone can grow up to be President,
And anyone who doesn't grow up can be Vice President.
Sleep well, tonight.....
RD (The Sandman)
email.me:
the late 1800's. A state law was passed forbidding opium to be smoked
(the most common way those laborers used it) while ignoring opium that
was "eaten" the most common usage among white folk.
--
Democracy means that anyone can grow up to be President,
And anyone who doesn't grow up can be Vice President.
Sleep well, tonight.....
RD (The Sandman)
RD Sandman
Oct 25, 2012, 3:14:25 PM10/25/12
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BeamMeUpScotty <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
news:50898028...@blackhole.nebulax.com:
> On 10/25/2012 1:11 PM, Alias wrote:
>> On 10/25/2012 6:47 PM, Mike Huckabee wrote:
>>> Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
>>
>> You are very stupid. When it was legal, it wasn't a problem. It became
>> illegal only to give the cops more ways to bust blacks and Latinos.
>> Eg., planting the drugs when they had nothing else.
>>
> Like a tax code was used to trip up and jail Mobsters like Al
Capone....
>
>
> But that didn't work as well as legalizing alcohol to bust up all the
> Mobs. It took their money away.
You think that the mobs all went away? Or perhaps, they found other
avenues of making money like drugs, prostitution, human smuggling,
avoidance of tobacco and alcohol taxes, etc..
> Capitalism and competition did what a war on organized crime couldn't
> do, and today the more laws we have the more Mobsters and gangs and
Drug
> lords we have.
That's true.
news:50898028...@blackhole.nebulax.com:
> On 10/25/2012 1:11 PM, Alias wrote:
>> On 10/25/2012 6:47 PM, Mike Huckabee wrote:
>>> Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
>>
>> You are very stupid. When it was legal, it wasn't a problem. It became
>> illegal only to give the cops more ways to bust blacks and Latinos.
>> Eg., planting the drugs when they had nothing else.
>>
> Like a tax code was used to trip up and jail Mobsters like Al
Capone....
>
>
> But that didn't work as well as legalizing alcohol to bust up all the
> Mobs. It took their money away.
avenues of making money like drugs, prostitution, human smuggling,
avoidance of tobacco and alcohol taxes, etc..
> Capitalism and competition did what a war on organized crime couldn't
> do, and today the more laws we have the more Mobsters and gangs and
Drug
> lords we have.
BeamMeUpScotty
Oct 25, 2012, 3:58:39 PM10/25/12
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On 10/25/2012 3:14 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
> BeamMeUpScotty <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
> news:50898028...@blackhole.nebulax.com:
>
>> On 10/25/2012 1:11 PM, Alias wrote:
>>> On 10/25/2012 6:47 PM, Mike Huckabee wrote:
>>>> Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
>>> You are very stupid. When it was legal, it wasn't a problem. It became
>>> illegal only to give the cops more ways to bust blacks and Latinos.
>>> Eg., planting the drugs when they had nothing else.
>>>
>> Like a tax code was used to trip up and jail Mobsters like Al
> Capone....
>>
>> But that didn't work as well as legalizing alcohol to bust up all the
>> Mobs. It took their money away.
> You think that the mobs all went away?
I didn't say that did I.... NO what it did was make it unprofitable to
> BeamMeUpScotty <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
> news:50898028...@blackhole.nebulax.com:
>
>> On 10/25/2012 1:11 PM, Alias wrote:
>>> On 10/25/2012 6:47 PM, Mike Huckabee wrote:
>>>> Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
>>> You are very stupid. When it was legal, it wasn't a problem. It became
>>> illegal only to give the cops more ways to bust blacks and Latinos.
>>> Eg., planting the drugs when they had nothing else.
>>>
>> Like a tax code was used to trip up and jail Mobsters like Al
> Capone....
>>
>> But that didn't work as well as legalizing alcohol to bust up all the
>> Mobs. It took their money away.
> You think that the mobs all went away?
smuggle and sell illegal liquor. They couldn't make enough money at it
to throw money around and support other criminal behavior like pay for
killings and all the manpower. They didn't go away but their jobs
were outsourced and they had less money to make here and very little
from alcohol. There is money in alcohol but why risk 20 years in jail
smuggling it in when you can get a business license and do the same
thing legally and pay the taxes.
> Or perhaps, they found other
> avenues of making money like drugs,
the less money they have the less they can afford to spread around to
stay out of Jail.
> prostitution,
Legalize it too....
> human smuggling,
Spend more time chasing them and less chasing liquor.
>
> avoidance of tobacco and alcohol taxes, etc..
die-out through attrition when they don't make enough to bribe the
politicians and judges.
*Rumination*
#60 - "Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S.
Senators.... which at times are, one and the same."
BeamMeUpScotty
Oct 25, 2012, 4:02:56 PM10/25/12
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On 10/25/2012 3:11 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
> Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote in news:k6brrj$lur$1@dont-
> email.me:
>
>> On 10/25/2012 6:47 PM, Mike Huckabee wrote:
>>> Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
>> You are very stupid. When it was legal, it wasn't a problem. It became
>> illegal only to give the cops more ways to bust blacks and Latinos.
> Eg.,
>> planting the drugs when they had nothing else.
>>
> Drug laws in the US started with the Chinese laborers in California in
> the late 1800's. A state law was passed forbidding opium to be smoked
> (the most common way those laborers used it) while ignoring opium that
> was "eaten" the most common usage among white folk.
>
It was constitutional for a State to ban something but the Feds have no
> Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote in news:k6brrj$lur$1@dont-
> email.me:
>
>> On 10/25/2012 6:47 PM, Mike Huckabee wrote:
>>> Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
>> You are very stupid. When it was legal, it wasn't a problem. It became
>> illegal only to give the cops more ways to bust blacks and Latinos.
> Eg.,
>> planting the drugs when they had nothing else.
>>
> Drug laws in the US started with the Chinese laborers in California in
> the late 1800's. A state law was passed forbidding opium to be smoked
> (the most common way those laborers used it) while ignoring opium that
> was "eaten" the most common usage among white folk.
>
constitutional power to ban opium that is produced and used inside a
State. Just like the Feds can't ban Prostitution, it has always been on
a State by State basis depending on the Local decisions.
That's the way it's supposed to be.
--
*Rumination*
#43.0.1 - Violating the constitution is NOT a solution to a violation of
the constitution.
BeamMeUpScotty
Oct 25, 2012, 4:17:23 PM10/25/12
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On 10/25/2012 5:15 AM, mg wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
> <tonnew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
>> million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
>> Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
>> Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>>
>> The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
> The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush and his
> cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries is to have more
> Muslims in the country.
>
Will that work with communist/Marxist types also?
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
> <tonnew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
>> million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
>> Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
>> Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>>
>> The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
> The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush and his
> cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries is to have more
> Muslims in the country.
>
Maybe we should elect a Muslim or a Communist/Marxist type to be President?
Then we would never invade Oil Rich Libya.... or even strategically
arrange for a coup in Egypt.
--
*Rumination*
#45 - If you haven't found the lie in what a Liberal told you, then you
didn't dig deep enough.
Klaus Schadenfreude
Oct 25, 2012, 5:03:23 PM10/25/12
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>Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>On 10/25/2012 5:59 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>>
>>>> 'Fraid so. You even responded to it.
>>>
>>> If what you are referring to is
>>>
>>> "LOL
>>> Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight."
>>>
>>> That isn't a credible reply, sorry, and doesn't count as a reply.
>>
>> So you ARE illiterate. What's the matter, your Commodore 64 can't
>> display enough lines at once?
>>
>> [chuckle]
>>
>
>This is even less of a credible reply.
But no less tiny then you claiming you didn't see a reply you replied
>On 10/25/2012 5:59 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>>
>>>> 'Fraid so. You even responded to it.
>>>
>>> If what you are referring to is
>>>
>>> "LOL
>>> Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight."
>>>
>>> That isn't a credible reply, sorry, and doesn't count as a reply.
>>
>> So you ARE illiterate. What's the matter, your Commodore 64 can't
>> display enough lines at once?
>>
>> [chuckle]
>>
>
>This is even less of a credible reply.
to.
[chuckle]
Let's add "obtuse" to your description......
Klaus Schadenfreude
Oct 25, 2012, 5:09:38 PM10/25/12
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>Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>On 10/25/2012 6:47 PM, Mike Huckabee wrote:
>> Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
>
>You are very stupid. When it was legal, it wasn't a problem.
Really?
>> Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
>
>You are very stupid. When it was legal, it wasn't a problem.
Not a problem?
Really?
Read history much?
Gray Guest
Oct 25, 2012, 8:32:06 PM10/25/12
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Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote in
news:k6bbc7$cdg$1...@dont-email.me:
> On 10/25/2012 1:42 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>>
--
Refusenik #1
Libs suffer from Eleutherophobia. And there is no cure.
news:k6bbc7$cdg$1...@dont-email.me:
> On 10/25/2012 1:42 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>>
>>> On Oct 25, 4:15 am, mg <mgkel...@yaoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>>>>
>>>> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
>>>>> million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
>>>>> Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
>>>>> Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>>>>
>>>>> The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
>>>> and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
>>>> is to have more Muslims in the country.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT), walt tonne
>>>>
>>>> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> The number of Muslim adherents rose to 2.6 million in 2010 from 1
>>>>> million in 2000, fueled by immigration and conversions, said Dale
>>>>> Jones, a researcher who worked on the study by the Association of
>>>>> Statisticians of American Religious Bodies.
>>>>
>>>>> The American Eagle, only bird that fouls it's own nest.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> The best way I know of to prevent presidents like George Bush
>>>> and his cronies from invading oil-rich Muslim countries
>>>> is to have more Muslims in the country.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a better way, one that preserves Western values such as
>>> Christianity, tolerance...
>>
>> Values like this, you mean?
>>
>> http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/mex
>> ico_drug_war_2011/bp3.jpg
>> http://warlordrosdet.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/mexicodrugwarsbodiesima
>> ge.jpg
>> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9WyrcpaKRwA/To6MRDBjdgI/AAAAAAAAAfo/59Z-bfyYQQ
>> Q/s1600/MexicoDrugWarDHeadsImage.jpg
>>
>
> If the USA didn't have such a high demand for drugs, the above murders
>>> Christianity, tolerance...
>>
>> Values like this, you mean?
>>
>> http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/mex
>> ico_drug_war_2011/bp3.jpg
>> http://warlordrosdet.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/mexicodrugwarsbodiesima
>> ge.jpg
>> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9WyrcpaKRwA/To6MRDBjdgI/AAAAAAAAAfo/59Z-bfyYQQ
>> Q/s1600/MexicoDrugWarDHeadsImage.jpg
>>
>
> If the USA didn't have such a high demand for drugs, the above murders
> would have never occurred. Oops. Legalize drugs and the drug lords will
> be out of business in ONE DAY. The reason drugs were made illegal in the
> first place was due to racism so the values you talk about are?
>
Is there anything that isn't due to racism you ridiculous fraud?
> be out of business in ONE DAY. The reason drugs were made illegal in the
> first place was due to racism so the values you talk about are?
>
--
Refusenik #1
Libs suffer from Eleutherophobia. And there is no cure.
Gray Guest
Oct 25, 2012, 8:37:17 PM10/25/12
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"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in news:d1b8ff11-5447-4fd7-
ae4f-7fd...@g8g2000yqp.googlegroups.com:
>
> On Oct 25, 7:14�am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pablo_Sandoval
>
> I also have a stack of photos of Miss Venezuelas/Miss Universes
> (ooops, was that redundant???) but I have the feeling that you are of
> the Pablo Sandoval-preferring persuasion....
>
> -Ramon
>
> ps: Oooops, almost forgot my amigo and colleague, professor Rafael
> Reif. We worked together at MIT, with Al Gore, too.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Reif
>
That makes you a trio of dumbasses then. I was looking for your pictuire
amongst the corpses. Imagine my dissapointment.
ae4f-7fd...@g8g2000yqp.googlegroups.com:
>
> On Oct 25, 7:14�am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Photos courtesy of Hispanic Obama supporters.
>
> That was very sweet of you to notice!!!
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/24/sport/mlb-world-series/
>
> > Photos courtesy of Hispanic Obama supporters.
>
> That was very sweet of you to notice!!!
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pablo_Sandoval
>
> I also have a stack of photos of Miss Venezuelas/Miss Universes
> (ooops, was that redundant???) but I have the feeling that you are of
> the Pablo Sandoval-preferring persuasion....
>
> -Ramon
>
> ps: Oooops, almost forgot my amigo and colleague, professor Rafael
> Reif. We worked together at MIT, with Al Gore, too.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Reif
>
That makes you a trio of dumbasses then. I was looking for your pictuire
amongst the corpses. Imagine my dissapointment.
A Mount
Oct 25, 2012, 8:22:38 PM10/25/12
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Ramon is a foreign transplant originally from Venezuela, probably a
beaner terrorist, and definitely a Fraud. Ramon F Herrera also goes by
"Cambridge Ray," "Google Poster," "Lucius Sanctimonious," and
"Hadron." An ultra-left, open-borders pretend-American. He lives and
works in Houston, TX. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.
Ramon F Herrera
13313 Cutten Rd, Apt 7102
Houston, TX 77069-2374
[][][][][][]
The DemocRAT Hall Of Shame http://www.democrathallofshame.com/ asks
"Why do you always LIE?"
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 04:24:51 -0700 (PDT), Ramon F Herrera
<ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>The worst fears of the anti-immigrant crowd have materialized.
>Federal Judge Carlos Bea:
Oops! Caught LYING, again:
Carlos Tiburcio Bea (born April 18, 1934 in San Sebastian, Spain) is a
federal judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth
Circuit. He was appointed to that court by President George W. Bush in
2003 to replace Judge Charles Edward Wiggins.
Bea was born in Spain, but emigrated with his family in 1939 to Cuba.
In 1952, Bea represented Cuba as a member of the country's basketball
team in the Helsinki Olympics. Bea then emigrated to the United States
and became a naturalized citizen in 1959.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Bea
Posted from:
The DemocRATs Hall of Shame!
http://www.democrathallofshame.com/
beaner terrorist, and definitely a Fraud. Ramon F Herrera also goes by
"Cambridge Ray," "Google Poster," "Lucius Sanctimonious," and
"Hadron." An ultra-left, open-borders pretend-American. He lives and
works in Houston, TX. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.
Ramon F Herrera
13313 Cutten Rd, Apt 7102
Houston, TX 77069-2374
[][][][][][]
The DemocRAT Hall Of Shame http://www.democrathallofshame.com/ asks
"Why do you always LIE?"
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 04:24:51 -0700 (PDT), Ramon F Herrera
<ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>The worst fears of the anti-immigrant crowd have materialized.
>Federal Judge Carlos Bea:
Oops! Caught LYING, again:
Carlos Tiburcio Bea (born April 18, 1934 in San Sebastian, Spain) is a
federal judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth
Circuit. He was appointed to that court by President George W. Bush in
2003 to replace Judge Charles Edward Wiggins.
Bea was born in Spain, but emigrated with his family in 1939 to Cuba.
In 1952, Bea represented Cuba as a member of the country's basketball
team in the Helsinki Olympics. Bea then emigrated to the United States
and became a naturalized citizen in 1959.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Bea
Posted from:
The DemocRATs Hall of Shame!
http://www.democrathallofshame.com/
Alias
Oct 26, 2012, 5:44:41 AM10/26/12
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On 10/25/2012 7:34 PM, Mike Huckabee wrote:
>
>
> "Alias" wrote in message news:k6brrj$lur$1...@dont-email.me...
>
> On 10/25/2012 6:47 PM, Mike Huckabee wrote:
>>> Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
>
>> You are very stupid. When it was legal, it wasn't a problem.
>
> BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAA!
>
> Mind if I quote/paraphrase you on that?
> "Cocaine, Opium, heroin, and LSD abuse and addictions was never an issue
> when it was legal!" <---- 'Alias' 10/25/2012
It wasn't.
>
>
> "Alias" wrote in message news:k6brrj$lur$1...@dont-email.me...
>
> On 10/25/2012 6:47 PM, Mike Huckabee wrote:
>>> Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
>
>> You are very stupid. When it was legal, it wasn't a problem.
>
> BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAA!
>
> Mind if I quote/paraphrase you on that?
> "Cocaine, Opium, heroin, and LSD abuse and addictions was never an issue
> when it was legal!" <---- 'Alias' 10/25/2012
>
> How Smurphy!
>
>> It became
> illegal only to give the cops more ways to bust blacks and Latinos. Eg.,
> planting the drugs when they had nothing else.
>
>> ^^^
>
> Good thing there weren't any WHITE PUNKS ON DOPE!
>
>
> Oh wait! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkdQyyChTlw
>
--
Alias
Alias
Oct 26, 2012, 5:46:06 AM10/26/12
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On 10/25/2012 11:09 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>
>> On 10/25/2012 6:47 PM, Mike Huckabee wrote:
>>> Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
>>
>> You are very stupid. When it was legal, it wasn't a problem.
>
> Really?
Hey the man can read!
>> Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>
>> On 10/25/2012 6:47 PM, Mike Huckabee wrote:
>>> Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
>>
>> You are very stupid. When it was legal, it wasn't a problem.
>
> Really?
>
> Not a problem?
Hey the man can read!
>
> Really?
Really.
>
> Read history much?
>
You obviously don't.
--
Alias
Klaus Schadenfreude
Oct 26, 2012, 10:42:27 AM10/26/12
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>Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>On 10/25/2012 11:09 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>>
>>> On 10/25/2012 6:47 PM, Mike Huckabee wrote:
>>>> Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
>>>
>>> You are very stupid. When it was legal, it wasn't a problem.
>>
>> Really?
>
>Hey the man can read!
Hey the man has no idea what he's talking about.
>On 10/25/2012 11:09 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>>
>>> On 10/25/2012 6:47 PM, Mike Huckabee wrote:
>>>> Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
>>>
>>> You are very stupid. When it was legal, it wasn't a problem.
>>
>> Really?
>
>Hey the man can read!
"it wasn't a problem..."
LOL
RD Sandman
Oct 26, 2012, 1:53:12 PM10/26/12
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BeamMeUpScotty <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
news:508999EF...@blackhole.nebulax.com:
> On 10/25/2012 3:14 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
>> BeamMeUpScotty <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
>> news:50898028...@blackhole.nebulax.com:
>>
>>> On 10/25/2012 1:11 PM, Alias wrote:
>>>> On 10/25/2012 6:47 PM, Mike Huckabee wrote:
>>>>> Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
>>>> You are very stupid. When it was legal, it wasn't a problem. It
became
>>>> illegal only to give the cops more ways to bust blacks and Latinos.
>>>> Eg., planting the drugs when they had nothing else.
>>>>
>>> Like a tax code was used to trip up and jail Mobsters like Al
>> Capone....
>>>
>>> But that didn't work as well as legalizing alcohol to bust up all the
>>> Mobs. It took their money away.
>> You think that the mobs all went away?
> I didn't say that did I.... NO what it did was make it unprofitable to
> smuggle and sell illegal liquor.
Actually, it was still profitable and is currently being done today. It
is just that the profit now is from the tax monies that would have been
paid, not the liquor or tobaccon itself.
They couldn't make enough money at it
> to throw money around and support other criminal behavior like pay for
> killings and all the manpower.
They still do it and make money at it.
They didn't go away but their jobs
> were outsourced and they had less money to make here and very little
> from alcohol. There is money in alcohol but why risk 20 years in jail
> smuggling it in when you can get a business license and do the same
> thing legally and pay the taxes.
The taxes is where they make the money. They take alcohol from low tax
states and sell it in high tax states. Same with tobacco.
>> Or perhaps, they found other
>> avenues of making money like drugs,
> I'm sure they found other maybe less profitable ways to make money....
> the less money they have the less they can afford to spread around to
> stay out of Jail.
The mobs still make millions of dollars. Some of it from construction in
addition to things I listed.
>> prostitution,
>
> Legalize it too....
Not done yet.
>> human smuggling,
> Spend more time chasing them and less chasing liquor.
Both are illegal, both need to be chased.
>> avoidance of tobacco and alcohol taxes, etc..
>
> The gains aren't worth the risk,
Bullshit. You need to do some learning.
sure a few will try but they will
> die-out through attrition when they don't make enough to bribe the
> politicians and judges.
news:508999EF...@blackhole.nebulax.com:
> On 10/25/2012 3:14 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
>> BeamMeUpScotty <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
>> news:50898028...@blackhole.nebulax.com:
>>
>>> On 10/25/2012 1:11 PM, Alias wrote:
>>>> On 10/25/2012 6:47 PM, Mike Huckabee wrote:
>>>>> Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
>>>> You are very stupid. When it was legal, it wasn't a problem. It
became
>>>> illegal only to give the cops more ways to bust blacks and Latinos.
>>>> Eg., planting the drugs when they had nothing else.
>>>>
>>> Like a tax code was used to trip up and jail Mobsters like Al
>> Capone....
>>>
>>> But that didn't work as well as legalizing alcohol to bust up all the
>>> Mobs. It took their money away.
>> You think that the mobs all went away?
> I didn't say that did I.... NO what it did was make it unprofitable to
> smuggle and sell illegal liquor.
is just that the profit now is from the tax monies that would have been
paid, not the liquor or tobaccon itself.
They couldn't make enough money at it
> to throw money around and support other criminal behavior like pay for
> killings and all the manpower.
They didn't go away but their jobs
> were outsourced and they had less money to make here and very little
> from alcohol. There is money in alcohol but why risk 20 years in jail
> smuggling it in when you can get a business license and do the same
> thing legally and pay the taxes.
states and sell it in high tax states. Same with tobacco.
>> Or perhaps, they found other
>> avenues of making money like drugs,
> I'm sure they found other maybe less profitable ways to make money....
> the less money they have the less they can afford to spread around to
> stay out of Jail.
addition to things I listed.
>> prostitution,
>
> Legalize it too....
Not done yet.
>> human smuggling,
> Spend more time chasing them and less chasing liquor.
>> avoidance of tobacco and alcohol taxes, etc..
>
> The gains aren't worth the risk,
sure a few will try but they will
> die-out through attrition when they don't make enough to bribe the
> politicians and judges.
BeamMeUpScotty
Oct 26, 2012, 2:02:32 PM10/26/12
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dollars and bail out unions like Obama did with GM....
What idiot with billions of free money with NO chance of being charged
with a crime would worry about a few million dollars in cigarette and
alcohol tax. They aren't very Organized for organized crime if they are
violating IRS codes when it's so easy to steal tax dollars and use the
IRS to collect them for them.
--
*Rumination*
#30 - Socialism will eventually run out of other people's money and
collapse.
Mike Huckabee
Oct 26, 2012, 2:09:43 PM10/26/12
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"RD Sandman" wrote in message
news:XnsA0F86EC11...@216.196.121.131...
Prostitution IS legal in the US! (just not all states, sadly.)
(Think of the revenue it would bring in, if it WAS LEGAL in the other 49
states! :)
Still, I truly believe that hard-core drugs like Cocaine, Heroin ,PCP, Meth,
LSD, and it's like should be banned.
BeamMeUpScotty
Oct 26, 2012, 2:14:51 PM10/26/12
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waste tax dollars and bail out unions like Obama did with GM....
What idiot with billions of dollars of free money with NO chance of
being charged with a crime would worry about a few million dollars in
cigarette and alcohol tax. They aren't very Organized for organized
crime if they are violating IRS codes when it's so easy to steal tax
dollars and use the IRS to collect the tax for them.
cigarette and alcohol tax. They aren't very Organized for organized
crime if they are violating IRS codes when it's so easy to steal tax
Rather than smuggling liquor anywhere wouldn't you just buy a distillery
and run a midnight distilling run to make an unreported bottling run in
recycled bottles that already have tax stamps? Then sell them to a few
reliable places at discounts?
That would be organized....
But theft is a never ending crime, there will always be people stealing
shipments and reselling it for a 100% profit.
RD Sandman
Oct 26, 2012, 2:30:47 PM10/26/12
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"Mike Huckabee" <Ind...@bass.gov> wrote in
news:508ad1e2$0$9804$607e...@cv.net:
I don't. I think that what you intake or stuff up your nose is your
business and no one else's.....UNLESS, it becomes abuse and brings harm
or injury to another or others. Treat it more like alcohol.
Additionally, you tax it and use the tax monies for education and
rehabilitation programs. You sell it via pharmacies to control what age
groups have access to it, control purity and what's in it and strengths.
You find other work for unemployed DEA agents. The border is a thought.
The bottom line is that legalizing it removes the profit angle and the
resultant turf wars, etc.. go away seriously reducing crime and criminal
activity.
End the failing War on Drugs.
news:508ad1e2$0$9804$607e...@cv.net:
business and no one else's.....UNLESS, it becomes abuse and brings harm
or injury to another or others. Treat it more like alcohol.
Additionally, you tax it and use the tax monies for education and
rehabilitation programs. You sell it via pharmacies to control what age
groups have access to it, control purity and what's in it and strengths.
You find other work for unemployed DEA agents. The border is a thought.
The bottom line is that legalizing it removes the profit angle and the
resultant turf wars, etc.. go away seriously reducing crime and criminal
activity.
End the failing War on Drugs.
Mike Huckabee
Oct 26, 2012, 3:01:01 PM10/26/12
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"RD Sandman" wrote in message
That is where we differ.
After all, not many people CAN control their intake of Meth, Coke, or
Heroin, once they enjoy it and start abusing it to the point of " I WILL
KILL YOU TO GET MORE!"
I have NEVER seen, heard, nor met of a "social" Meth/Coke-crack/Heroin/
Opium, or PCP user... have you?
But like you said :".....UNLESS, it becomes abuse and brings harm
or injury to another or others. Treat it more like alcohol."
Well, alcohol is NOT causing a SMIDGEON of the murders and gangland crimes
and insanity when those people use and deal with the other thangs.
Additionally, you tax it and use the tax monies for education and
rehabilitation programs. You sell it via pharmacies to control what age
groups have access to it, control purity and what's in it and strengths.
What portion of the taxes that the Government already raised via Alcohol and
Tobacco went directly to Education and rehab?
My guess is none.
Why would more legalization of more POTENT drugs change if they taxed it?
And by the way, I believe that marijuana is basically harmless, and it
SHOULD be legalized Federally.
What about the other Pharmaceuticals that PUNKS STEAL and kill for?
RD Sandman
Oct 26, 2012, 3:35:25 PM10/26/12
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"Mike Huckabee" <Ind...@bass.gov> wrote in
news:508adde7$0$9819$607e...@cv.net:
problem comes with abuse. One reason we punish drunk drivers but not one
who has had one drink before he drove.
> Additionally, you tax it and use the tax monies for education and
> rehabilitation programs. You sell it via pharmacies to control what
> age groups have access to it, control purity and what's in it and
> strengths.
>
>>^^^^^
>
> What portion of the taxes that the Government already raised via
> Alcohol and Tobacco went directly to Education and rehab?
> My guess is none.
gasoline taxes being used on roads rather than education.
> Why would more legalization of more POTENT drugs change if they taxed
> it?
wouldn't end up with some chugging what they thought was a beer and
finding out it was 60% grain alcohol. Too many drugs are laced with
extenders to bring up the money count. Some of the those extenders can
be damaging to your health. Additionally, what happens if someone is
expecting 10% cocaine and hits a pure dosage? Control over strength and
purity is a good reason to place the purchase of those drugs in a
pharmacy. You are also placing some sort of control on access like you
do with tobacco and alchohol.
> And by the way, I believe that marijuana is basically harmless, and it
> SHOULD be legalized Federally.
> What about the other Pharmaceuticals that PUNKS STEAL and kill for?
legal. Much of the cost of illegal drugs is to pay the overhead and
costs of avoiding getting caught distributing it.
Mike Huckabee
Oct 26, 2012, 6:22:58 PM10/26/12
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"RD Sandman" wrote in message
BINGO! ABUSE!
And we also don't punish convicted murderers enough either!
So again, what people "socially" shoot up smack, use PCP, snort glue and
coke, use LSD or inject drugs at your favorite eatory?
People that use THAT sort if crap, are insane.
> Additionally, you tax it and use the tax monies for education and
> rehabilitation programs. You sell it via pharmacies to control what
> age groups have access to it, control purity and what's in it and
> strengths.
>
>>^^^^^
>
> What portion of the taxes that the Government already raised via
> Alcohol and Tobacco went directly to Education and rehab?
> My guess is none.
As is mine. However, one can legislatively direct taxes. It is like
gasoline taxes being used on roads rather than education.
> Why would more legalization of more POTENT drugs change if they taxed
> it?
One reason you direct it via pharmacies is control those dosages.
heh!
CONTROL!
Or is it KAOS? Where IS Maxwell Smart?
> You
wouldn't end up with some chugging what they thought was a beer and
finding out it was 60% grain alcohol.
Egad!
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/10/24/scottish-brewer-unveils-brewmeister-armageddon-world-strongest-proof-beer/
RD Sandman
Oct 27, 2012, 2:30:56 PM10/27/12
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"Mike Huckabee" <Ind...@bass.gov> wrote in
news:508b0d3c$0$24743$607e...@cv.net:
information I need to make proper decisions, but let me make those
decisions.
>> Additionally, you tax it and use the tax monies for education and
>> rehabilitation programs. You sell it via pharmacies to control what
>> age groups have access to it, control purity and what's in it and
>> strengths.
>>
>>>^^^^^
>>
>> What portion of the taxes that the Government already raised via
>> Alcohol and Tobacco went directly to Education and rehab?
>> My guess is none.
>
> As is mine. However, one can legislatively direct taxes. It is like
> gasoline taxes being used on roads rather than education.
>
>> Why would more legalization of more POTENT drugs change if they taxed
>> it?
>
> One reason you direct it via pharmacies is control those dosages.
>
>>^^^^
> heh!
> CONTROL!
> Or is it KAOS? Where IS Maxwell Smart?
>
>
>> You
> wouldn't end up with some chugging what they thought was a beer and
> finding out it was 60% grain alcohol.
>
> <^^^^
>
> Egad!
> http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/10/24/scottish-brewer-unveils-brewm
> eister-armageddon-world-strongest-proof-beer/
>
>
Mike Huckabee
Oct 27, 2012, 2:42:15 PM10/27/12
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"RD Sandman" wrote in message
That information is available EVERYWHERE!
And yes, I too don't believe in STUPID LAWS!
But stupid people DO make stupid laws, and smart people Do make mistakes AND
smart laws as well.
IMHO, legalizing Crack and Heroin, and it's derivatives, is a naughty idea.
> Egad!
> http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/10/24/scottish-brewer-unveils-brewm
> eister-armageddon-world-strongest-proof-beer/
Topaz
Oct 28, 2012, 6:49:50 AM10/28/12
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by Robert Locke
Libertarianism is the idea that individual freedom should be the sole
rule of ethics and government. Libertarianism makes it legal to do
things society presently restrains, like get more money, have more
sex, or take more drugs...
The most fundamental problem with libertarianism is very simple:
freedom, though a good thing, is simply not the only good thing in
life. Simple physical security, which even a prisoner can possess, is
not freedom, but one cannot live without it. Prosperity is connected
to freedom, in that it makes us free to consume, but it is not the
same thing, in that one can be rich but as unfree as a Victorian
tycoon's wife. A family is in fact one of the least free things
imaginable, as the emotional satisfactions of it derive from relations
that we are either born into without choice or, once they are chosen,
entail obligations that we cannot walk away from with ease or justice.
But security, prosperity, and family are in fact the bulk of happiness
for most real people and the principal issues that concern
governments...
Furthermore, the reduction of all goods to individual choices
presupposes that all goods are individual. But some, like national
security, clean air, or a healthy culture, are inherently collective.
It may be possible to privatize some, but only some, and the efforts
can be comically inefficient. Do you really want to trace every
pollutant in the air back to the factory that emitted it and sue?
the libertarian principle of "an it harm none, do as thou wilt"...
Libertarians need to be asked some hard questions. What if a free
society needed to draft its citizens in order to remain free?...
Libertarianism's abstract and absolutist view of freedom leads to
bizarre conclusions. Like slavery, libertarianism would have to allow
one to sell oneself into it. (It has been possible at certain times in
history to do just that by assuming debts one could not repay.) And
libertarianism degenerates into outright idiocy when confronted with
the problem of children, whom it treats like adults, supporting the
abolition of compulsory education and all child-specific laws, like
those against child labor and child sex. It likewise cannot handle the
insane and the senile.
Libertarians argue that radical permissiveness, like legalizing drugs,
would not shred a libertarian society because drug users who caused
trouble would be disciplined by the threat of losing their jobs or
homes if current laws that make it difficult to fire or evict people
were abolished. They claim a "natural order" of reasonable behavior
would emerge. But there is no actual empirical proof that this would
happen...
And is society really wrong to protect people against the negative
consequences of some of their free choices? While it is obviously fair
to let people enjoy the benefits of their wise choices and suffer the
costs of their stupid ones, decent societies set limits on both these
outcomes. People are allowed to become millionaires, but they are
taxed. They are allowed to go broke, but they are not then forced to
starve. They are deprived of the most extreme benefits of freedom in
order to spare us the most extreme costs. The libertopian alternative
would be perhaps a more glittering society, but also a crueler one.
Empirically, most people don't actually want absolute freedom, which
is why democracies don't elect libertarian governments. Irony of
ironies, people don't choose absolute freedom. But this refutes
libertarianism by its own premise, as libertarianism defines the good
as the freely chosen, yet people do not choose it. Paradoxically,
people exercise their freedom not to be libertarians.
The political corollary of this is that since no electorate will
support libertarianism, a libertarian government could never be
achieved democratically but would have to be imposed by some kind of
authoritarian state, which rather puts the lie to libertarians' claim
that under any other philosophy, busybodies who claim to know what's
best for other people impose their values on the rest of us.
Libertarianism itself is based on the conviction that it is the one
true political philosophy and all others are false. It entails
imposing a certain kind of society, with all its attendant pluses and
minuses, which the inhabitants thereof will not be free to opt out of
except by leaving.
And if libertarians ever do acquire power, we may expect a farrago of
bizarre policies. Many support abolition of government-issued money in
favor of that minted by private banks. But this has already been
tried, in various epochs, and doesn't lead to any wonderful paradise
of freedom but only to an explosion of fraud and currency debasement
followed by the concentration of financial power in those few banks
that survive the inevitable shaking-out. Many other libertarian
schemes similarly founder on the empirical record.
A major reason for this is that libertarianism has a naďve view of
economics that seems to have stopped paying attention to the actual
history of capitalism around 1880. There is not the space here to
refute simplistic laissez faire, but note for now that the
second-richest nation in the world, Japan, has one of the most
regulated economies, while nations in which government has essentially
lost control over economic life, like Russia, are hardly economic
paradises. Legitimate criticism of over-regulation does not entail
going to the opposite extreme.
Libertarian naďveté extends to politics. They often confuse the
absence of government impingement upon freedom with freedom as such.
But without a sufficiently strong state, individual freedom falls prey
to other more powerful individuals. A weak state and a
freedom-respecting state are not the same thing, as shown by many a
chaotic Third-World tyranny.
Libertarians are also naďve about the range and perversity of human
desires they propose to unleash. They can imagine nothing more
threatening than a bit of Sunday-afternoon sadomasochism, followed by
some recreational drug use and work on Monday. They assume that if
people are given freedom, they will gravitate towards essentially
bourgeois lives, but this takes for granted things like the deferral
of gratification that were pounded into them as children without their
being free to refuse. They forget that for much of the population,
preaching maximum freedom merely results in drunkenness, drugs,
failure to hold a job, and pregnancy out of wedlock. Society is
dependent upon inculcated self-restraint if it is not to slide into
barbarism, and libertarians attack this self-restraint. Ironically,
this often results in internal restraints being replaced by the
external restraints of police and prison, resulting in less freedom,
not more...
Libertarianism is philosophically incapable of evolving a theory of
how to use freedom well because of its root dogma that all free
choices are equal, which it cannot abandon except at the cost of
admitting that there are other goods than freedom. Conservatives
should know better.
http://www.ihr.org/ http://heretical.com/
http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
Klaus Schadenfreude
Oct 28, 2012, 9:06:54 AM10/28/12
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>Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>Libertarianism is the idea that individual freedom should be the sole
>rule of ethics and government.
Fuck you nazis are stupid.
>Libertarianism is the idea that individual freedom should be the sole
>rule of ethics and government.
Topaz
Oct 29, 2012, 9:29:10 PM10/29/12
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Franklin Roosevelt did some things to help people. But he didn't
really upset the money bag parasites who rule over us. Only Hitler did
that.
When Hitler came to power, Germany was hopelessly broke. The Treaty
of Versailles had imposed crushing reparations on the German people,
demanding that Germans repay every nation's cost of the (First World)
war. These costs totaled three times the value of all the property in
Germany.
Jewish currency speculators caused the German mark to plummet,
precipitating one of the worst runaway inflations in modern times. A
wheelbarrow full of 100 billion-mark banknotes could not buy a loaf of
bread. The national treasury was empty. Countless homes and farms
were lost to Jewish speculators and private banks. Germans lived in
hovels. They were starving.
Nothing like this had ever happened before - the total destruction of
the national currency, plus the wiping out of people's savings and
businesses. On top of all this came a global depression. Germany had
no choice but to succumb to debt slavery under international Jewish
bankers until 1933, when the National Socialists came to power. At
that point, the German government thwarted the international Jewish
banking cartels by issuing its own money. World Jewry responded by
declaring a global economic boycott of Germany.
Hitler began a national credit program by devising a plan of public
works that included flood control, repair of public buildings and
private residences, and construction of new roads, bridges, canals,
and port facilities. All these were paid for with money that no
longer came from the private international Jewish bankers.
The projected cost of these various programs was fixed at one billion
units of the national currency. To pay for this, the German
government issued bills of exchange, called Labor Treasury
Certificates. In this way, the National Socialists put people to
work.
Under the National Socialists, Germany's money wasn't backed by gold.
It was essentially a receipt for labor and materials delivered to the
government. Hitler said, "For every mark issued, we require the
equivalent of a mark's worth of work done, or goods produced." Workers
spent those Certificates on other people's goods and services, thus
creating more jobs for more people. In this way, the German people
climbed out of the crushing debt imposed on them by the Jew bankers.
Within two years, the unemployment problem had been solved, and
Germany was back on it's feet. It had a solid, stable currency with
no debt, and no inflation, at a time when millions of people in the US
and other Western countries were still out of work. Within five
years, Germany went from being the poorest nation in Europe to the
richest!
Germany even managed to restore foreign trade, despite the global
boycott by Jew-owned enterprises, and the denial of foreign credit by
Jew-owned banks. Germany succeeded in this by exchanging equipment
and commodities directly with other countries, using a barter system
that cut the Jew bankers out of the picture. Germany flourished, since
barter eliminates national debt and trade deficits.
Germany's economic freedom was short-lived; but it left several
monuments, including the famous Autobahn, the world's first extensive
superhighway. This economic freedom made Hitler extremely popular with
the German people. Germany was rescued from English economic theory,
which says that all currency must be borrowed against the gold owned
by a private and secretive banking cartel - such as the Federal
Reserve, or the European Central Bank - rather than issued by the
government for the benefit of the people.
In "Billions For The Bankers, Debts For The People" (1984), Shelton
Emry commented:
"Germany issued debt-free and interest-free money from 1935 on, which
accounts for Germany's startling rise from the depression to a world
power in five years. The German government financed its entire
operations from 1935 to 1945 without gold, and without debt. It took
the entire Capitalist and Communist worlds to destroy the German
revolution, and bring Europe back under the heel of the Jewish
bankers."
Klaus Schadenfreude
Oct 30, 2012, 8:42:27 AM10/30/12
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> Franklin Roosevelt did some things to help people
And nazis murdered a bunch of innocent people.
Fuck Topaz, you don't care WHO knows you're a coward, do you?
Topaz
Oct 31, 2012, 7:50:23 PM10/31/12
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The Holocaust Cowing and Milking of Nations By Alex Linder
'Holocaust': The Means by Which the Richest Group in the World
Contrives to Cow and Milk the Rest of the Us in the Guise of Victims
who are Persecuted and Due Eternal Restitution.
Reading through a thousand blog reactions to Duke v Blitzer on CNN, a
generalization crystallizes. People confuse being told something six
million times with knowing something. They are not the same. "It ain't
what you don't know, it's what you know that just ain't so." The
average man 'knows' the Holocaust exists because:
1) everybody uses the term;
2) he has seen photos of stacked bodies;
3) he has read Anne Frank's book;
4) authorities agree that questioning any of this is 'hate.'
In other words, the average man believes in the Holocaust for no
logical reason, but out of simple mammalian conformity.
'Holocaust' is a loaded, dishonest term. You can't debate with
undefined terms without making a joke of yourself, but the average man
does not realize this. It is the part of public school, reinforced by
mass media, to disable his thinking so that he's worse positioned to
defend himself because he can't understand how he is manipulated to
accept the illogical. Debate in the mass media of a democracy is
nothing but the shuffling of loaded terms.
'Holocaust' is no ordinary noun. Rather, it is a loaded gun leveled at
the head of the West and the rest. Give them their money and their
pride of place or get your head and reputation blown off. You will
notice that never, ever does debate in the captive media condescend to
deconstruct the Zionist Privilege embodied in and sanctified by the
designer label 'Holocaust.' Worship the Zionists and submit to their
demands - that is what the term Holocaust means.
A demand for special privilege protected by a shell of pseudo-history;
that is an objective description of the term. The heart of the
'Holocaust,' taking at face value the term's pretension to historical
designation, is the claim that six million Jews were murdered by Nazi
Germany, most of them by gassing. The evidence for the gassing is
never discussed. Photos of crematories and bodies stacked like cord
wood are shown. No context or explanation of the reason for showing
them is given. The connection is to be assumed. But never is any
ordinary evidence, let alone proof, of the gassing allegation
advanced. That Jews were gassed is treated as though it were already
proved and therefore unquestionable, save by the depraved. Thus, the
practical job of the media and the well intentioned everyman is to
smear and ostracize anybody who argues against settled truth. We all
know that Jews were gassed, and that those who say otherwise are
deniers driven by hate. But it ain't so just because "everybody knows"
it is.
We are told repeatedly that the 'Holocaust' is both the worst thing
that ever happened and the best documented thing in human history. We
are to take these assertions on authority, since no genuine debate is
allowed.
There are men who can prove the 'Holocaust' is a Big Lie. You can find
them in jail. Their imprisonment is scarcely mentioned in the mass
media. Their imprisonment goes unlamented by the mass columnists. To
discuss these men and their work would endanger the Propa-sphere the
media construct. They must disappear. But we know, mass media. And
we're not going away. We're getting louder and stronger. And there's
nothing you can do to stop us.
Klaus Schadenfreude
Nov 1, 2012, 7:30:06 AM11/1/12
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>The Holocaust Cowing and Milking of Nations By Alex Linder
Alex Linder.
BWAH ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hah a hah ahah a.
What an impotent faggot.
Topaz
Nov 1, 2012, 8:15:46 PM11/1/12
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by James Buchanan
Let's say the Germans merely removed the Jews from positions of
political power and banned them from the legal profession. Germany
went from devastating economic poverty in 1932 to full employment just
a couple years later. If an incredible economic improvement can be
achieved, merely by removing the Jews from power (and replacing them
with patriotic nationalists), then every Gentile nation in the world
should give this a try.
Obviously the Jews don't want anyone else getting the idea of removing
them to create prosperity. It was a huge embarrassment for the Jews to
see Germany so prosperous in the mid-1930s after removing them from
power. They considered this a dangerous precedent. To deal with this
"problem" the Jewish World Congress declared war on Germany in 1933.
This declaration of war at least encouraged a world-wide boycott
against Germany and at worst encouraged other nations of the world to
become hostile toward Germany. (The Jews curiously sanctioned the
Germans before the Germans passed any laws restricting the Jews.) More
importantly the Jews pushed vicious anti-German slander in all the
Jewish-owned newspapers in the West in the years leading up to World
War Two. The Communist mass murder of 30 million people in Russia and
the Ukraine received almost no publicity in the Jewish media. Most
people in the West only heard a serious mention of these Communist
mass murders beginning in the 1980s. Instead, the Jewish media focused
all their hatred and agitation against Germany and its allies.
After six years of relentless agitation, the Jews pushed England and
France into war with Germany. Only two years later, FDR and his cabal
of Jews provoked a war with Japan (and Germany).
Naturally, the Jews did not want future historians to say: "World War
Two was provoked by the Jewish media in retaliation for Germany
removing the Jews from power." The Jews needed a new reason for World
War Two. A reason that painted their enemies as unquestionably evil.
So they invented the Holocaust.
The Holocaust stood mostly unchallenged for decades after the war
because people feared being branded "Nazi-sympathizers" for
questioning its details. The truth always comes out in the long run.
Professor Arthur Butz published his famous work "The Hoax of the 20th
Century" in 1977 detailing a very solid argument against this war
propaganda. Dr. Butz pointed out that the world population of Jews
remained at about 16 million before and after the war. He also noted
that half a million Jews remained in Paris after four years of German
occupation. Both these facts strongly suggest the Holocaust is a
fraud, but the political power of the Jews has suppressed and punished
any public questioning of the Holocaust to this day. David Irving
joined the ranks of Revisionist historians several years ago and went
from a famous successful author to a pariah thanks to persecution by
the Jews.
The Institute for Historical Review has done great work exposing the
Holocaust as a great historical fraud. Anyone interested in looking
for historical truth should visit their website. It's a shock for many
people to see how much propaganda we've been force fed.
http://www.ihr.org
Let's say the Germans merely removed the Jews from positions of
political power and banned them from the legal profession. Germany
went from devastating economic poverty in 1932 to full employment just
a couple years later. If an incredible economic improvement can be
achieved, merely by removing the Jews from power (and replacing them
with patriotic nationalists), then every Gentile nation in the world
should give this a try.
Obviously the Jews don't want anyone else getting the idea of removing
them to create prosperity. It was a huge embarrassment for the Jews to
see Germany so prosperous in the mid-1930s after removing them from
power. They considered this a dangerous precedent. To deal with this
"problem" the Jewish World Congress declared war on Germany in 1933.
This declaration of war at least encouraged a world-wide boycott
against Germany and at worst encouraged other nations of the world to
become hostile toward Germany. (The Jews curiously sanctioned the
Germans before the Germans passed any laws restricting the Jews.) More
importantly the Jews pushed vicious anti-German slander in all the
Jewish-owned newspapers in the West in the years leading up to World
War Two. The Communist mass murder of 30 million people in Russia and
the Ukraine received almost no publicity in the Jewish media. Most
people in the West only heard a serious mention of these Communist
mass murders beginning in the 1980s. Instead, the Jewish media focused
all their hatred and agitation against Germany and its allies.
After six years of relentless agitation, the Jews pushed England and
France into war with Germany. Only two years later, FDR and his cabal
of Jews provoked a war with Japan (and Germany).
Naturally, the Jews did not want future historians to say: "World War
Two was provoked by the Jewish media in retaliation for Germany
removing the Jews from power." The Jews needed a new reason for World
War Two. A reason that painted their enemies as unquestionably evil.
So they invented the Holocaust.
The Holocaust stood mostly unchallenged for decades after the war
because people feared being branded "Nazi-sympathizers" for
questioning its details. The truth always comes out in the long run.
Professor Arthur Butz published his famous work "The Hoax of the 20th
Century" in 1977 detailing a very solid argument against this war
propaganda. Dr. Butz pointed out that the world population of Jews
remained at about 16 million before and after the war. He also noted
that half a million Jews remained in Paris after four years of German
occupation. Both these facts strongly suggest the Holocaust is a
fraud, but the political power of the Jews has suppressed and punished
any public questioning of the Holocaust to this day. David Irving
joined the ranks of Revisionist historians several years ago and went
from a famous successful author to a pariah thanks to persecution by
the Jews.
The Institute for Historical Review has done great work exposing the
Holocaust as a great historical fraud. Anyone interested in looking
for historical truth should visit their website. It's a shock for many
people to see how much propaganda we've been force fed.
http://www.ihr.org
Klaus Schadenfreude
Nov 2, 2012, 7:11:07 AM11/2/12
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>by James Buchanan
James Buchanan?
Another impotent child molester.
James Buchanan?
Another impotent child molester.
Harold Burton
Nov 2, 2012, 11:56:41 AM11/2/12
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In article <XnsA0F77C860...@216.196.121.131>,
> avenues of making money like drugs, prostitution . . .
You missing the irony there?
snicker
RD Sandman <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote:
> BeamMeUpScotty <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
> news:50898028...@blackhole.nebulax.com:
>
> > On 10/25/2012 1:11 PM, Alias wrote:
> >> On 10/25/2012 6:47 PM, Mike Huckabee wrote:
> >>> Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
> >>
> >> You are very stupid. When it was legal, it wasn't a problem. It became
> >> illegal only to give the cops more ways to bust blacks and Latinos.
> >> Eg., planting the drugs when they had nothing else.
> >>
> > Like a tax code was used to trip up and jail Mobsters like Al
> Capone....
> >
> >
> > But that didn't work as well as legalizing alcohol to bust up all the
> > Mobs. It took their money away.
>
> You think that the mobs all went away? Or perhaps, they found other
> BeamMeUpScotty <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
> news:50898028...@blackhole.nebulax.com:
>
> > On 10/25/2012 1:11 PM, Alias wrote:
> >> On 10/25/2012 6:47 PM, Mike Huckabee wrote:
> >>> Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
> >>
> >> You are very stupid. When it was legal, it wasn't a problem. It became
> >> illegal only to give the cops more ways to bust blacks and Latinos.
> >> Eg., planting the drugs when they had nothing else.
> >>
> > Like a tax code was used to trip up and jail Mobsters like Al
> Capone....
> >
> >
> > But that didn't work as well as legalizing alcohol to bust up all the
> > Mobs. It took their money away.
>
> avenues of making money like drugs, prostitution . . .
You missing the irony there?
snicker
Nickname unavailable
Nov 2, 2012, 12:19:40 PM11/2/12
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On Nov 2, 10:57 am, Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
when are you going to apologize for calling our WWII vets war
criminals.
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.economics/browse_thread/thread/8455997cbba5630d/e891055dbf97c108?hl=en&q=Harold+Burton++world+war+two&lnk=ol&
Harold Burton
View profile
More options May 19, 8:14 pm
In article
<90d4c035-5a00-4dc5-b0c5-3b981dc6d...@s9g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
- Show quoted text -
Well doh. Democrat FDR proved that in the 40s when he firebombed
thousands of innocent women and children in Dresden, Tokyo and
numerous
other cities.
snicker
you were responded to promptly by a patriot.
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.economics/browse_thread/thread/8455997cbba5630d/b08042a9da25f19f?hl=en&q=Harold+Burton++world+war+two&lnk=nl&
While It's ALWAYS DISconcerting To Encounter a HOPELESS IGNORAMUS,
it is Conversely, a GREAT PLEASURE To Illustrate - And Hopefully
DISSIPATE - The HARM of The DEPENDABLY, Self-Serving, Fact-
INTOLERANT, Delusional And INTRACTABLE IGNORANCE of such Notable
RighTARDS as "Harold Burton"...
THUS: The Rationale For AND Decision To Bomb [FIRST With High-
Explosives, THEN With Incendiaries] Dresden [Among OTHER High-Value
Targets] Was a - Waaaaait Forrr Iiiiiit - *British* Undertaking...
FDR's Involvement being Limited To his Administration's LONG-Standing
Acquiescence To Placing [American] Eighth Air Force assets At The
Disposal Of British Air Marshalls... As Would Be Expected Of a GOOD
War-Time Ally...
ERGO: *The British* Bombed Dresden [Among OTHER High-Value
Targets] employing Combined Military Assets of British and American
Forces... The *British* FIRST Low-Level Attacking at *Night*, Per
British Strategy; American Forces [Under *British* Command] High-
Level Attacking by Next Daylight...
ERGO - The Sequel: CONTRARY To Harold The RighTARD's HOPELESSLY
IGNORANT And Self-Serving, Ignoramus-Speak Blather, FDR had LITTLE OR
NOTHING To Do With The Bombing Of Dresden and Most Likely, Wasn't
Even Aware that The British High Command had Determined To Bomb
Several East German Cities, In Aid Of The Burgeoning Russian
Advance...
even after knowing the slaughter of americans in the Philippines,
and all of the other atrocities commited by them, they would have to
be worn down, as they tried to do to us.
and here is your response, you defended the nazis, and now you defend
the imperialists japanese.
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.economics/browse_thread/thread/8455997cbba5630d/b08042a9da25f19f?hl=en&q=Harold+Burton++world+war+two&lnk=nl&
The CiC takes ultimate responsibility for what our armed services do.
The buck stopped at FDR's desk.
> . . . .and Most Likely, Wasn't Even
> Aware that The British High Command had Determined To Bomb Several
> East German Cities, In Aid Of The Burgeoning Russian Advance...
Hahahahahahahahahaha. Now THAT's even funnier.
I also notice you did your best to ignore the firebombing of
Tokyo . . . and Osaka . . . and Kobe . . . and Fukuoka . . . and,
oh hell just check out http://www.ditext.com/japan/napalm.html. How
are you going to blame that on the Brits?
then i demanded a apology,
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.economics/browse_thread/thread/8455997cbba5630d/b08042a9da25f19f?hl=en&q=Harold+Burton++world+war+two&lnk=nl&
and he owes WWII vets a apology.
you said,
Just as you owe sentient beings an apology
Hahahahahahahahahahah
you sir are not only a liar, but a unpatriotic one at that.
and you added this recently
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.economics/browse_thread/thread/3803f1d64d8e4b45/5d73a1560313be84?hl=en&
. . . and deliberately targeting and murdering civilians.
snicker
when are you going to apologize for calling our WWII vets war
criminals.
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.economics/browse_thread/thread/8455997cbba5630d/e891055dbf97c108?hl=en&q=Harold+Burton++world+war+two&lnk=ol&
Harold Burton
View profile
More options May 19, 8:14 pm
In article
<90d4c035-5a00-4dc5-b0c5-3b981dc6d...@s9g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
- Show quoted text -
Well doh. Democrat FDR proved that in the 40s when he firebombed
thousands of innocent women and children in Dresden, Tokyo and
numerous
other cities.
snicker
you were responded to promptly by a patriot.
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.economics/browse_thread/thread/8455997cbba5630d/b08042a9da25f19f?hl=en&q=Harold+Burton++world+war+two&lnk=nl&
While It's ALWAYS DISconcerting To Encounter a HOPELESS IGNORAMUS,
it is Conversely, a GREAT PLEASURE To Illustrate - And Hopefully
DISSIPATE - The HARM of The DEPENDABLY, Self-Serving, Fact-
INTOLERANT, Delusional And INTRACTABLE IGNORANCE of such Notable
RighTARDS as "Harold Burton"...
THUS: The Rationale For AND Decision To Bomb [FIRST With High-
Explosives, THEN With Incendiaries] Dresden [Among OTHER High-Value
Targets] Was a - Waaaaait Forrr Iiiiiit - *British* Undertaking...
FDR's Involvement being Limited To his Administration's LONG-Standing
Acquiescence To Placing [American] Eighth Air Force assets At The
Disposal Of British Air Marshalls... As Would Be Expected Of a GOOD
War-Time Ally...
ERGO: *The British* Bombed Dresden [Among OTHER High-Value
Targets] employing Combined Military Assets of British and American
Forces... The *British* FIRST Low-Level Attacking at *Night*, Per
British Strategy; American Forces [Under *British* Command] High-
Level Attacking by Next Daylight...
ERGO - The Sequel: CONTRARY To Harold The RighTARD's HOPELESSLY
IGNORANT And Self-Serving, Ignoramus-Speak Blather, FDR had LITTLE OR
NOTHING To Do With The Bombing Of Dresden and Most Likely, Wasn't
Even Aware that The British High Command had Determined To Bomb
Several East German Cities, In Aid Of The Burgeoning Russian
Advance...
even after knowing the slaughter of americans in the Philippines,
and all of the other atrocities commited by them, they would have to
be worn down, as they tried to do to us.
and here is your response, you defended the nazis, and now you defend
the imperialists japanese.
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.economics/browse_thread/thread/8455997cbba5630d/b08042a9da25f19f?hl=en&q=Harold+Burton++world+war+two&lnk=nl&
The CiC takes ultimate responsibility for what our armed services do.
The buck stopped at FDR's desk.
> . . . .and Most Likely, Wasn't Even
> Aware that The British High Command had Determined To Bomb Several
> East German Cities, In Aid Of The Burgeoning Russian Advance...
Hahahahahahahahahaha. Now THAT's even funnier.
I also notice you did your best to ignore the firebombing of
Tokyo . . . and Osaka . . . and Kobe . . . and Fukuoka . . . and,
oh hell just check out http://www.ditext.com/japan/napalm.html. How
are you going to blame that on the Brits?
then i demanded a apology,
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.economics/browse_thread/thread/8455997cbba5630d/b08042a9da25f19f?hl=en&q=Harold+Burton++world+war+two&lnk=nl&
and he owes WWII vets a apology.
you said,
Just as you owe sentient beings an apology
Hahahahahahahahahahah
you sir are not only a liar, but a unpatriotic one at that.
and you added this recently
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.economics/browse_thread/thread/3803f1d64d8e4b45/5d73a1560313be84?hl=en&
. . . and deliberately targeting and murdering civilians.
snicker
RD Sandman
Nov 2, 2012, 4:16:36 PM11/2/12
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Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:hal.i.burton-1EAC...@news.newsguy.com:
Apparently. I deal in fact. You?
news:hal.i.burton-1EAC...@news.newsguy.com:
BeamMeUpScotty
Nov 2, 2012, 6:28:33 PM11/2/12
to
>>>> On 10/25/2012 1:11 PM, Alias wrote:
>>>>> On 10/25/2012 6:47 PM, Mike Huckabee wrote:
>>>>>> Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
>>>>> You are very stupid. When it was legal, it wasn't a problem. It
>>>>> became illegal only to give the cops more ways to bust blacks and
>>>>> Latinos. Eg., planting the drugs when they had nothing else.
>>>>>
>>>> Like a tax code was used to trip up and jail Mobsters like Al
>>> Capone....
>>>>
>>>> But that didn't work as well as legalizing alcohol to bust up all
>>>> the Mobs. It took their money away.
>>>
battle.
--
*Rumination*
#3 - Liberals live in fear of anyone that promotes the notion of
self-sufficiency and responsible behavior.
Topaz
Nov 2, 2012, 8:59:43 PM11/2/12
to
Auschwitz Museum Director
Reveals 'Gas Chamber' Hoax
By P. Samuel Foner
The Spotlight
Volume XIX, Number 2
5-31-4
In a dramatic and unprecedented videotaped interview, Dr. Franciszek
Piper, senior curator and director of archives of the Auschwitz State
Museum admitted on camera that 'Krema 1,' the alleged 'homicidal gas
chamber' shown off to hundreds of thousands of tourists every year at
the Auschwitz main camp, was, in fact, fabricated after the war by the
Soviet Union -apparently on the direct orders of Josef Stalin.
What Piper said - in effect and on camera - was that the explosive
1988 Leuchter Report was correct: no homicidal gassings took place in
the buildings designated as 'homicidal gas chambers' at Auschwitz.
With this admission by none other than the respected head of the
Auschwitz State Museum, one of the most sacred 'facts' of history has
been destroyed. This 'gas chamber' is the major historical 'fact' on
which much of the foreign and domestic policies of all Western nations
since WWII are based.
It is the basis for the $100+ billion in foreign aid the United States
has poured into the state of Israel since its inception in 1948 -
amounting to $16,500 for every man, woman and child in the Jewish
state and billions more paid by Germany in 'reparations' - not to
mention the constructing of Israel's national telephone, electrical
and rail systems...all gifts of the German people. It is the basis for
the $10 billion 'loan' (read 'gift') made to Israel for housing its
immigrants in the occupied territories...while Americans sleep on the
streets and businesses are bankrupted by the thousands. (Note - As of
2004, not a single 'loan' of US tax money made to the state of Israel
by Washington has ever been paid back. -ed)
Germany is paying 'reparations' - the United States is making
major contributions - to atone for the 'gassings at Auschwitz' and
elsewhere. If the 'homicidal gas chambers' were postwar creations of
the Soviets, in which no one was gassed regardless of race, creed,
color or country of national origin, then these 'reparations' were
unnecessary, and were based on fraud.
The videotape on which Dr. Piper makes his revelations was made in
mid-1992 by a young Jewish investigator, David Cole and follows 12
years of intensive investigation by dozens of historians, journalists
and scientists who have tried to get to the bottom of what really
happened at Auschwitz.
Like most Americans, since his youth, Cole had been instructed in the
'irrefutable fact' that mass homicidal gassings had taken place at
Auschwitz. The number of those executed - also declared irrefutable -
was 4.1 million.
Then came the Leuchter Report in 1988 which was followed with an
official 're-evaluation' of the total deaths at Auschwitz (down to 1.1
million). As a budding historian - and a Jew - Cole was intrigued.
Previous to 1992, anyone who publicly doubted or questioned the
official 4.1 millon 'gassing' deaths at Auschwitz was labeled an anti-
semite, neo-nazi skinhead at the very least. Quietly, because of
revisionist findings, the official figure was lowered to 1.1 million.
No mention was made of the missing 3 million.
The Cole videotape interview proves that the people who run the
Auschwitz State Museum had made a practice of fabricating 'proofs' of
homicidal gassings. Keep in mind that over the years millions of
tourists have been told that 'Krema 1' is in its original state, while
officials knew that 'original state' is a lie.
The political, religious, financial and historical ramifications of
this proof of no homicidal gas chambers at Auschwitz cannot be
measured. Coupled with the Leuchter Report, the Cole interview with
Dr. Piper on videotape proves that what Western governments have
taught about the Auschwitz gas chamber since WWII is a lie. It proves
that what televangelists such as Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson have
been telling their flocks is simply not true.
No one, regardless of race, creed, color or country of national origin
was gassed to death in any building so designated at Auschwitz. And
without 'homicidal gas chambers' at Auschwitz, where is the reasoning
for the special treatment of the state of Israel?
Note - This is excerpted from the orginal, much longer article by P.
Samuel Foner.
Reveals 'Gas Chamber' Hoax
By P. Samuel Foner
The Spotlight
Volume XIX, Number 2
5-31-4
In a dramatic and unprecedented videotaped interview, Dr. Franciszek
Piper, senior curator and director of archives of the Auschwitz State
Museum admitted on camera that 'Krema 1,' the alleged 'homicidal gas
chamber' shown off to hundreds of thousands of tourists every year at
the Auschwitz main camp, was, in fact, fabricated after the war by the
Soviet Union -apparently on the direct orders of Josef Stalin.
What Piper said - in effect and on camera - was that the explosive
1988 Leuchter Report was correct: no homicidal gassings took place in
the buildings designated as 'homicidal gas chambers' at Auschwitz.
With this admission by none other than the respected head of the
Auschwitz State Museum, one of the most sacred 'facts' of history has
been destroyed. This 'gas chamber' is the major historical 'fact' on
which much of the foreign and domestic policies of all Western nations
since WWII are based.
It is the basis for the $100+ billion in foreign aid the United States
has poured into the state of Israel since its inception in 1948 -
amounting to $16,500 for every man, woman and child in the Jewish
state and billions more paid by Germany in 'reparations' - not to
mention the constructing of Israel's national telephone, electrical
and rail systems...all gifts of the German people. It is the basis for
the $10 billion 'loan' (read 'gift') made to Israel for housing its
immigrants in the occupied territories...while Americans sleep on the
streets and businesses are bankrupted by the thousands. (Note - As of
2004, not a single 'loan' of US tax money made to the state of Israel
by Washington has ever been paid back. -ed)
Germany is paying 'reparations' - the United States is making
major contributions - to atone for the 'gassings at Auschwitz' and
elsewhere. If the 'homicidal gas chambers' were postwar creations of
the Soviets, in which no one was gassed regardless of race, creed,
color or country of national origin, then these 'reparations' were
unnecessary, and were based on fraud.
The videotape on which Dr. Piper makes his revelations was made in
mid-1992 by a young Jewish investigator, David Cole and follows 12
years of intensive investigation by dozens of historians, journalists
and scientists who have tried to get to the bottom of what really
happened at Auschwitz.
Like most Americans, since his youth, Cole had been instructed in the
'irrefutable fact' that mass homicidal gassings had taken place at
Auschwitz. The number of those executed - also declared irrefutable -
was 4.1 million.
Then came the Leuchter Report in 1988 which was followed with an
official 're-evaluation' of the total deaths at Auschwitz (down to 1.1
million). As a budding historian - and a Jew - Cole was intrigued.
Previous to 1992, anyone who publicly doubted or questioned the
official 4.1 millon 'gassing' deaths at Auschwitz was labeled an anti-
semite, neo-nazi skinhead at the very least. Quietly, because of
revisionist findings, the official figure was lowered to 1.1 million.
No mention was made of the missing 3 million.
The Cole videotape interview proves that the people who run the
Auschwitz State Museum had made a practice of fabricating 'proofs' of
homicidal gassings. Keep in mind that over the years millions of
tourists have been told that 'Krema 1' is in its original state, while
officials knew that 'original state' is a lie.
The political, religious, financial and historical ramifications of
this proof of no homicidal gas chambers at Auschwitz cannot be
measured. Coupled with the Leuchter Report, the Cole interview with
Dr. Piper on videotape proves that what Western governments have
taught about the Auschwitz gas chamber since WWII is a lie. It proves
that what televangelists such as Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson have
been telling their flocks is simply not true.
No one, regardless of race, creed, color or country of national origin
was gassed to death in any building so designated at Auschwitz. And
without 'homicidal gas chambers' at Auschwitz, where is the reasoning
for the special treatment of the state of Israel?
Note - This is excerpted from the orginal, much longer article by P.
Samuel Foner.
pyotr filipivich
Nov 3, 2012, 12:49:16 AM11/3/12
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Let the Record show that BeamMeUpScotty
<ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> on or about Fri, 02 Nov
2012 18:28:33 -0400 did write, type or otherwise cause to appear in
talk.politics.guns the following:
Repeal was also associated with a rise in cases of Cirrhosis.
Which had been declining during prohibition.
--
pyotr filipivich
Next Month's Panel: Suicide - getting it right the first time.
<ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> on or about Fri, 02 Nov
2012 18:28:33 -0400 did write, type or otherwise cause to appear in
talk.politics.guns the following:
>
>>>>> On 10/25/2012 1:11 PM, Alias wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/25/2012 6:47 PM, Mike Huckabee wrote:
>>>>>>> Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
>>>>>> You are very stupid. When it was legal, it wasn't a problem. It
>>>>>> became illegal only to give the cops more ways to bust blacks and
>>>>>> Latinos. Eg., planting the drugs when they had nothing else.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Like a tax code was used to trip up and jail Mobsters like Al
>>>> Capone....
>>>>>
>>>>> But that didn't work as well as legalizing alcohol to bust up all
>>>>> the Mobs. It took their money away.
>>>>
>And legalizing Alcohol was cheaper than having the Mobs and the IRS do
>battle.
Repeal stopped the Feds from poisoning people.
>>>>> On 10/25/2012 1:11 PM, Alias wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/25/2012 6:47 PM, Mike Huckabee wrote:
>>>>>>> Legalizing Cocaine, heroine, and the like, is VERY stupid.
>>>>>> You are very stupid. When it was legal, it wasn't a problem. It
>>>>>> became illegal only to give the cops more ways to bust blacks and
>>>>>> Latinos. Eg., planting the drugs when they had nothing else.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Like a tax code was used to trip up and jail Mobsters like Al
>>>> Capone....
>>>>>
>>>>> But that didn't work as well as legalizing alcohol to bust up all
>>>>> the Mobs. It took their money away.
>>>>
>And legalizing Alcohol was cheaper than having the Mobs and the IRS do
>battle.
Repeal was also associated with a rise in cases of Cirrhosis.
Which had been declining during prohibition.
--
pyotr filipivich
Next Month's Panel: Suicide - getting it right the first time.
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