Kerry calls Secret Service agent bad name, claims with huge ego: "I don't fall down!"
Bill Bonde ( Straight invective is not satire; satire must deliberately overshoot its mark. )
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/19/politics/campaign/19KERR.html?ei=5062&en=ebf890a7a4528650&ex=1080277200&partner=GOOGLE&pagewanted=print&position=
John Kerry was in the air, approaching the Continental Divide, and the
candidate often ridiculed as straddling both sides of political divides
was wrestling with the big matter at hand.
Should he ski, or snowboard? Or maybe both? He gave no clue where he
stood. But that was Wednesday night.
A longtime adviser recently suggested that there were two John Kerrys:
"indoor John and outdoor John" — one who agonizes over decisions, and
another who acts boldly on them.
It was outdoor John, decidedly so, who emerged from an armored S.U.V. at
the foot of Bald Mountain here on Thursday morning, outfitted in blue
ski gear and swigging from a bottle of vitamin-fortified water. From the
rear of the vehicle he pulled a weathered old snowboard, and for most of
the day proceeded to zigzag down what locals affectionately call Mount
Baldy.
Mr. Kerry arrived Wednesday night for a full week of rest and
relaxation, and a rare bit of privacy with his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry,
at their high-altitude retreat.
His getaway came at a particularly rough time for the senator, the
expected Democratic presidential nominee. For more than a week, he has
had to defend himself from an onslaught of attacks by President Bush and
millions of dollars in negative advertising, while taking criticism for
calling Republicans "crooked" and "lying" and claiming to have the
support of leaders whom he has not named. Moreover, a New York Times/CBS
News poll indicated that many Americans were beginning to see him as the
kind of politician who says what he thinks people want to hear.
Several Democrats and Kerry aides said some of his missteps were a
result of exhaustion. They and some of the senator's friends said the
vacation could not have come too soon. "He needed it about as badly as
anybody could need it," said Sam Grossman, a real estate developer who
has skied with Ms. Heinz Kerry here for decades, and with Mr. Kerry for
years. "The best thing that can happen is he'll sleep, relax, eat some
good food, and then, in a couple of days, he'll be back firing again."
Another reminder of how badly Mr. Kerry needed a break was provided by
the Bush campaign, which released a commercial skewering him for saying
Tuesday that he had voted both for and against the $87 billion
appropriation for military operations and reconstruction in Iraq and
Afghanistan. "I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted
against it," he said, referring to an amendment he favored that would
have rescinded some tax cuts to help finance the Iraq war.
Mr. Kerry's staff back in Washington was working in overdrive,
meanwhile, marshaling surrogates to defend him and punch back at Mr.
Bush. They were also compelled, however, to reject an endorsement from
one foreign leader: Mahathir Mohamad, former Malaysian prime minister —
"an avowed anti-Semite whose views are totally deplorable," Rand Beers,
a foreign policy adviser, said in a statement.
But Mr. Beers added that Mr. Kerry would shun as inappropriate the
endorsement of any foreign leader at all.
This is Mr. Kerry's first week with his wife away from the hurly-burly,
as he calls it, since late August. Then, of course, no one much cared
where he went.
This time his arrival was the top story in the local paper. His plane, a
chartered 737, disgorged dozens of staff members and journalists, as
well as a full Secret Service detail. A top-flight racing bicycle was
also along, in case Mr. Kerry, as serious a biker as he is a schusser,
chose to go for a spin.
On his first full day off, though, Mr. Kerry awoke determined to hit the
slopes of Mount Baldy.
The image-conscious candidate and his aides prevailed upon reporters and
photographers to let him have a first run down the mountain solo, except
for two agents and Marvin Nicholson, his omnipresent right-hand man.
His next trip down, a reporter and a camera crew were allowed to follow
along on skis — just in time to see Mr. Kerry taken out by one of the
Secret Service men, who had inadvertently moved into his path, sending
him into the snow.
When asked about the mishap a moment later, he said sharply, "I don't
fall down," then used an expletive to describe the agent who "knocked me
over."
The incident occurred near the summit. No one was hurt, and Mr. Kerry
came careering down the mountain moments later, a look of intensity on
his face, his lanky frame bent low to the ground.
Ms. Heinz Kerry, for her part, stuck to a pair of skis and was taking
her time down the slope, accompanied by two old friends, one a former
Olympian, the other a ski school instructor.
"I'm going tentatively, but prettily," she said, wearing tight black
pants and a flaming red jacket.
The couple's outing created little stir here amid this natural splendor,
but then Sun Valley is used to people like Tom Hanks, Arnold
Schwarzenegger, Bruce Willis and Demi Moore.
"People of great fame and wealth can come here, and people don't invade
their privacy," said one visitor, Larry Nast of Bellevue, Wash.
Still, Mr. Kerry could not entirely escape the hazards of the arena he
had left behind. He had just sat down for a bite to eat on the crowded
patio near the lift line when a waiting skier, John Norris, shouted:
"Hey, John! What foreign leaders talked to you?"
Mr. Kerry beat a retreat back into the lodge, to an upstairs,
out-of-the-way dining area where he would be sure to draw even less
attention.
Idaho, to be sure, is very much a red state, but Ketchum is actually a
dot of deep Democratic blue on the political map. Many stop signs here
have "Bush 2004" spray-painted underneath, and the rebellious teenagers
tend to be "hard-core vegans," said Barrett Cincotta, 13.
"Everyone in this town is anti-Bush," Barrett, a Junior Olympic skier,
said between runs. "He's trying to destroy our planet."
Even visiting Texans were sympathetic to Mr. Kerry. Admiring the
senator's choice of sport, Patrick Riggins, 51, a Houston real estate
investor, said, "It's a little bit different from clearing brush, but I
like it."
"Snowboarding really keeps you in the now moment," said Mr. Riggins, who
added that he was rooting for Mr. Kerry. "Maybe it'll give him a chance
to not think about all that stuff, and revitalize himself. This is the
place to do it."
Martin McPhillips
deliberately overshoot its mark. )" <std...@backpacker.com> wrote in
message news:405B5545...@backpacker.com...
<snip>
> Several Democrats and Kerry aides said some of his missteps were a
> result of exhaustion.
....
> "I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted
> against it," he said, referring to an amendment he favored that
would
> have rescinded some tax cuts to help finance the Iraq war.
>
> Mr. Kerry's staff back in Washington was... also compelled,
> however, to reject an endorsement from
> one foreign leader: Mahathir Mohamad, former Malaysian prime
minister -
> "an avowed anti-Semite whose views are totally deplorable," Rand
Beers,
> a foreign policy adviser, said in a statement.
....
> On his first full day off, though, Mr. Kerry awoke determined to hit
the
> slopes of Mount Baldy.
....
> His next trip down, a reporter and a camera crew were allowed to
follow
> along on skis - just in time to see Mr. Kerry taken out by one of
the
> Secret Service men, who had inadvertently moved into his path,
sending
> him into the snow.
>
> When asked about the mishap a moment later, he said sharply, "I
don't
> fall down," then used an expletive to describe the agent who
"knocked me
> over."
I also posted that last bit from the story elsewhere.
What do you say to someone who has pledged to
lay down his life in your defense, will take a bullet
for you, when he accidentally knocks you down
while you are out skiing?
How about: "Don't worry about it. You're just
trying to do your job. I appreciate it."
----
"I actually did vote for the $87 billion before
I voted against it."
After the election, voters should greet Kerry on
the street by saying: "Hey, Senator, I actually
did vote for you before I voted against you."
Bu...@awol.com
is not satire; satire must deliberately overshoot its mark. )"
>"Everyone in this town is anti-Bush,"
Right up there with most real americans and most of the Civilized
world
> ---------------------------------------------------
> On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:08:21 -0500, Christopher Morton
> <chr...@ameritech.net> wrote:
> >Sorry, I'm a pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action liberal.
No, MORTONLOON
>
All you are, or ever were, or ever WILL be is a
big, dumb, ass-kicked Gunwhoring chickenshit
usenet moron.
> >Yes, and it pisses you off, you crossburning ignoramus
Bu...@awol.com
<nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>"Bill Bonde ( Straight invective is not satire; satire must
>deliberately overshoot its mark. )" <std...@backpacker.com> wrote in
>message news:405B5545...@backpacker.com...
>What do you say to someone who has pledged to
>lay down his life in your defense,
Certainly not the same thing you'd say to a fucking usnet moron who
drops to his knees anytime loony Bonde calls.
Bill Bonde ( Straight invective is not satire; satire must deliberately overshoot its mark. )
But not Kerry. He behaves like he's on steroids or something.
GaryW
>
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/19/politics/campaign/19KERR.html?ei=5062&en=ebf890a7a4528650&ex=1080277200&partner=GOOGLE&pagewanted=print&position=
>
> John Kerry was in the air, approaching the Continental Divide, and the
> candidate often ridiculed as straddling both sides of political divides
> was wrestling with the big matter at hand.
>
> <snip>
Brian Montopoli at CJR's Campaign Desk had another take on this NYT (blast
that SCLM!) article:
http://www.campaigndesk.org/archives/000311.asp
It's difficult to know where to start with David Halbfinger's virtuoso
display of not-so-subtle digs at John Kerry in the New York Times today. So
let's just begin at the beginning: Halbfinger's opening paragraphs use
Kerry's decision on whether to ski or snowboard while on vacation as a way
to needle him -- three times -- for being a flip-flopper (all italics ours):
John Kerry was in the air, approaching the Continental Divide, and *the
candidate often ridiculed as straddling both sides of political divides* was
wrestling with the big matter at hand.
Should he ski, or snowboard? Or maybe both? *He gave no clue where he
stood*. But that was Wednesday night.
A longtime adviser recently suggested that *there were two John Kerrys*:
"indoor John and outdoor John" -- one who agonizes over decisions, and
another who acts boldly on them.
Halbfinger then refers to a New York Times/CBS poll that indicates to him
"that many Americans were beginning to see [Kerry] as the kind of politician
who says what he thinks people want to hear."
This is Halbfinger pretending that the story line he's pushing somehow
exists in a mythical ether independent of his own coverage. Americans'
belief in Kerry's supposed insincerity may be rooted in many things -- among
them, his tendency to dance around an issue in a sort of
stream-of-consciousness approach, and the Bush campaign's quickness to
exploit that in its own ads. But Halbfinger is kidding himself, as well as
his readers, if he thinks the ways the mainstream press frames the issue
isn't a factor itself.
The potshots don't let up as Halbfinger moves on, although they do get
slightly subtler. Halbfinger refers to Kerry as an "image-conscious
candidate." Say, there's a new concept -- a candidate concerned with image?
Who would have guessed?
When a waiting skier asks Kerry, "Hey, John! What foreign leaders talked to
you?" -- a reference to a recent flap where Kerry was incorrectly quoted
(http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/16/politics/campaign/16CND-POOL.html) as
saying he'd talked to "foreign leaders" who wanted him to triumph over
Bush -- Halbfinger writes that Kerry "beat a retreat back into the lodge ...
where he would be sure to draw even less attention."
Beat a retreat? The wording suggests that when faced with adversity - even
in the form of some wisecracking skier -- Kerry turns tail. Bush/Cheney '04
couldn't have written it up any better.
There's plenty more here to parse, but we suggest you read the piece
yourself, with an eye on the coded messages contained within. There's a
reason Matt Drudge linked it prominently on his website this morning.
We can't blame Kerry -- or any candidate -- for being image-conscious when
the image-makers put out pieces like this.
GW
"King Abdullah of Jordan, the King of Morocco, I mean, there's a series of
places-Qatar, Oman-I mean, places that are developing-Bahrain-they're all
developing the habits of free societies."-Washington, D.C., Jan. 29, 2004
Jim01
harm - at the very least he should not CAUSE harm. If he's that clutzy
maybe he should be re-assigned to a desk.
"Martin McPhillips" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Martin McPhillips
deliberately overshoot its mark. )" <std...@backpacker.com> wrote in
Not exactly. There are, to simplify matters a bit, two
types of people with loads of money. The first type
maintains style, wit, and grace when on the ski slopes;
the second type acts like his shit doesn't stink. (There
is a third type, generally known as The Kennedys,
who behave like hooligans getting drunk on their
way to inevitable apres ski encounters.)
But Kerry is of the second type. "You don't
like the way I snowboard? My wife will buy
the fucking mountain and throw your poor ass
right out of here. And I don't fall. That *bitch*
<pointing to the Secret Service agent who has
pledged to lay down his life for Kerry> knocked
me down." (I added the first two sentences
and used the word "bitch" as the word flung
out about the Secret Service agent.)
----
I'm asking myself what I would say to a
man who has pledged to lay down his
life for me, to take a bullet for me, if
he accidentally knocks me down on
a ski slope *while* trying his best to
protect me.
I think that I say: "Don't worry about
it. You're doing your job. I appreciate
it."
And to onlookers: "Got tangled up with
my guardian angels up there and went down.
We need more practice at this."
But: "I don't fall. That blankety-blank
knocked me down"?
Martin McPhillips
news:rdK6c.11042726$Id.18...@news.easynews.com...
> Give me a break man, this secret service guy's job is to keep Kerry
from
> harm - at the very least he should not CAUSE harm. If he's that
clutzy
> maybe he should be re-assigned to a desk.
But first humiliated in public by the man who
he has pledged to lay down his life for, right?
Well, Kerry, *is* a liberal, after all, so he
has to show that he knows how to abuse
the servants.
SikOfLibs
the slope all on his own, after he said "I don't fall down". .
http://www.drudgereport.com/kerryid2.htm
"Bill Bonde ( Straight invective is not satire; satire must deliberately
overshoot its mark. )" <std...@backpacker.com> wrote in message
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>
>
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/19/politics/campaign/19KERR.html?ei=5062&en=e
bf890a7a4528650&ex=1080277200&partner=GOOGLE&pagewanted=print&position=
>
> John Kerry was in the air, approaching the Continental Divide, and the
> candidate often ridiculed as straddling both sides of political divides
> was wrestling with the big matter at hand.
>
> Should he ski, or snowboard? Or maybe both? He gave no clue where he
> stood. But that was Wednesday night.
>
> A longtime adviser recently suggested that there were two John Kerrys:
> "indoor John and outdoor John" - one who agonizes over decisions, and
> one foreign leader: Mahathir Mohamad, former Malaysian prime minister -
> "an avowed anti-Semite whose views are totally deplorable," Rand Beers,
> a foreign policy adviser, said in a statement.
>
> But Mr. Beers added that Mr. Kerry would shun as inappropriate the
> endorsement of any foreign leader at all.
>
> This is Mr. Kerry's first week with his wife away from the hurly-burly,
> as he calls it, since late August. Then, of course, no one much cared
> where he went.
>
> This time his arrival was the top story in the local paper. His plane, a
> chartered 737, disgorged dozens of staff members and journalists, as
> well as a full Secret Service detail. A top-flight racing bicycle was
> also along, in case Mr. Kerry, as serious a biker as he is a schusser,
> chose to go for a spin.
>
> On his first full day off, though, Mr. Kerry awoke determined to hit the
> slopes of Mount Baldy.
>
> The image-conscious candidate and his aides prevailed upon reporters and
> photographers to let him have a first run down the mountain solo, except
> for two agents and Marvin Nicholson, his omnipresent right-hand man.
>
> His next trip down, a reporter and a camera crew were allowed to follow
> along on skis - just in time to see Mr. Kerry taken out by one of the
Andy Galehouse
> "Bill Bonde ( Straight invective is not satire; satire must
> deliberately overshoot its mark. )" <std...@backpacker.com> wrote in
> message news:405B63E6...@backpacker.com...
> >
> > Martin McPhillips wrote:
> > >
> > > "Bill Bonde ( Straight invective is not satire; satire must
> > > deliberately overshoot its mark. )" <std...@backpacker.com> wrote
<Inane whiny drivel snipped>
> And to onlookers: "Got tangled up with
> my guardian angels up there and went down.
> We need more practice at this."
>
> But: "I don't fall. That blankety-blank
> knocked me down"?
>
This petty sniping about supposed glimpses into Kerry's psyche WRT his
manners seems pathetically desperate. Of course it's all about attempting to
distract the public from the real issues. You guys are running scared and
it's so obvious.
Andy Galehouse
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> On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:12:45 -0500, "SikOfLibs"
> <siko...@sikoflibs.net> wrote:
>
> >Sometime during this episode, he supposedly tumbled 6 times on the way
down
> >the slope all on his own, after he said "I don't fall down". .
> >http://www.drudgereport.com/kerryid2.htm
>
>
> special prosecutor?
>
> You guys are such idiots.
It appears that this time they're trying to work up to a blow job instead of
working down like they did last time.
Martin McPhillips
news:P6M6c.34255$8G2....@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
I think that most Americans are sensitive to abject
rudeness by presidential candidates to the people
who pledge to lay down their lives to protect presidental
candidates.
Maybe you're in the minority on that issue.
----
"I actually did vote for the $87 billion before
Riley The Dog
"Martin McPhillips" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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You're right. If he laughed it off he would have shown himself to be a
pretty cool guy.
He seems to have some serious issues. What an insecure arrogant ass.
Ken
Does the Secret Service have union representation? Maybe they should, given
the horrible treatment by the Clintons and Kerry. Dems would be beside
themselves trying to figure out whether to support or oppose it, since they
do so enjoy abusing the little people who work for them.
Ken
Bugman
"Riley The Dog" <wo...@wag.com> wrote in message
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You guys are taking it like he said "Go fuck your mama" People will grab on
any little thing and blow it out of proportion. Get a fucking life. And if
someone gets in my way skiing I'll call him a son of a bitch too.
Dickmcb
"Bugman" <jmpo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Assuming that Kerry actually said "son of a bitch" when he fell, which I
seriously doubt then there are two ways to say "son of a bitch". One,is when
you make a mistake and do something like fall down on a ski course and just
say" son of a bitch" to youself as you are going down. The other is to
actually call someone else a SOB which I very seriously do not think Kerry
did. The only one that really knows is the Agent. What does he say happened?
>
>
SemiScholar
wrote:
>
>"Martin McPhillips" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:FhK6c.148$1C1.6...@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> "Bill Bonde ( Straight invective is not satire; satire must
>> deliberately overshoot its mark. )" <std...@backpacker.com> wrote in
>> message news:405B63E6...@backpacker.com...
>> >
>> I think that I say: "Don't worry about
>> it. You're doing your job. I appreciate
>> it."
>>
>> And to onlookers: "Got tangled up with
>> my guardian angels up there and went down.
>> We need more practice at this."
>>
>> But: "I don't fall. That blankety-blank
>> knocked me down"?
>
>You're right. If he laughed it off he would have shown himself to be a
>pretty cool guy.
>He seems to have some serious issues. What an insecure arrogant ass.
>
You people can't be serious. He WAS laughing it off. Jeeze - this
thing is just comical as hell. Kerry joked about falling down saying
"that son-of-a-bitch tripped me". That's a good-natured jibe, and
clearly meant as a joke. But you wackos want so desperately to claim
it was something else.
Unbelievable.
SemiScholar
wrote:
>
>> > >
>> > > And to onlookers: "Got tangled up with
>> > > my guardian angels up there and went down.
>> > > We need more practice at this."
>> > >
>> > > But: "I don't fall. That blankety-blank
>> > > knocked me down"?
>> >
>> > You're right. If he laughed it off he would have shown himself to be a
>> > pretty cool guy.
>> > He seems to have some serious issues. What an insecure arrogant ass.
>> >
>> Maybe he was laughing about it. "It wasn't me, it was the other guy.
>Ha-Ha"
>> You guys are taking it like he said "Go fuck your mama" People will grab
>on
>> any little thing and blow it out of proportion. Get a fucking life. And if
>> someone gets in my way skiing I'll call him a son of a bitch too.
> *****************************************
> Assuming that Kerry actually said "son of a bitch" when he fell, which I
>seriously doubt then there are two ways to say "son of a bitch". One,is when
>you make a mistake and do something like fall down on a ski course and just
>say" son of a bitch" to youself as you are going down. The other is to
>actually call someone else a SOB which I very seriously do not think Kerry
>did. The only one that really knows is the Agent. What does he say happened?
Secret Service Agents are professionals. They don't say anything
about these things. Maybe after they retire, they might write a
book, but only the unprofessional scumbag ones.
This whole thing is purely ridiculous. Obviously it was a joke about
the fall, and nobody but a wacked-out partisan republican would ever
even attempt to make anything out of it.
Riley The Dog
Hey. I remember you now.
I'm skiing down mont sainte anne and some
arsehole comes from behind and
smashes into me.
que le fuck homme d'insecte???
Riley The Dog
"SemiScholar" <noe...@spambegone.com> wrote in message
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I hear what your saying.
I'm sure it could be a matter
of interpetation.
After all The New York Times can be
a little un-reliable.
Bugman
REDHAND1
clowns--starting with the arrogant gigolo Kerry.
Arne Langsetmo
> Sometime during this episode, he supposedly tumbled 6 times on the way down
> the slope all on his own, after he said "I don't fall down". .
> http://www.drudgereport.com/kerryid2.htm
You misspelled "allegedly". I'd note that the "report" claims
that his (supposed) six falls (not all of which were seen, which
makes you wonder how they make this stu-- ... um, I mean, get
this "information) were not necessarily after his alleged comment,
But they were allegedly after he'd reportedly hiked up the mountain,
something that indicates to _me_ as an experienced winter sports
aficionado that he wasn't exactly going down the Duby-- ... umm,
sorry, I mean "BunnyParts" runs. . . .
Snowboarding isn't for the faint of heart; you should try it
when you're over forty five, and come back and tell me how _your_
tailbone feels afterwards. . . .
Cheers,
-- Arne Langsetmo
Arne Langsetmo
> "Andy Galehouse" <An...@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:P6M6c.34255$8G2....@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
[snip]
>><Inane whiny drivel snipped>
>>
>>>And to onlookers: "Got tangled up with
>>>my guardian angels up there and went down.
>>>We need more practice at this."
>>>
>>>But: "I don't fall. That blankety-blank
>>>knocked me down"?
>>
>>This petty sniping about supposed glimpses into Kerry's psyche WRT
>>his manners seems pathetically desperate. Of course it's all about
>>attempting to distract the public from the real issues. You guys
>>are running scared and it's so obvious.
>
> I think that most Americans are sensitive to abject
> rudeness . . .
You misspelled "alleged rudeness".
Like "major league asshole", by any chance? That one we have
on tape, you know. "Big time", as they say. No arguing it.
> . . . by presidential candidates to the people
> who pledge to lay down their lives to protect presidental
> candidates.
Most people don't protect presidential candidates by plowing
them over with skis. Can be risky. Say, seen Sonny Bono
lately?
But FWIW, these are guys that have pledged to take a bullet
for their charges. Do you think they can handle an
(alleged) cross word? Exactly who was the "injured
party" here in your opinion, McFoulup, and what are
_your_ priorities and values here?
> Maybe you're in the minority on that issue.
Your feigned indignation is noted. You're so friggin'
transparent. . . .
Cheers,
-- Arne Langsetmo
SemiScholar
wrote:
What did the New York Times say about the incident?
SikOfLibs
"Arne Langsetmo" <zu...@bangspam.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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David Hartung
> But FWIW, these are guys that have pledged to take a bullet
> for their charges. Do you think they can handle an
> (alleged) cross word? Exactly who was the "injured
> party" here in your opinion, McFoulup, and what are
> _your_ priorities and values here?
The point here is that a man who will be so petty as to talk about his
protective detail the way Kerry did, does not have the maturity to be
President.
John Fraude Kerry
"David Hartung" <dhar...@quixnet.net> wrote in message
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How pathetic an argument Arne just attempted to mount. First, let us make
note of his namecalling. In typical liberal Democrat fashion, he was unable
to address the issue itself but instead namecalled ("McFoulup") the person
who dared to question Kerry's behavior. Quite similar to what Kerry himself
did when challenged by a questioner in the audience about a week ago.
Second, apparently Arne feels that if someone has "pledged to take a bullet"
for someone else (this would be true of all Marines, Seals, and members of
Delta forces, in addition to the Secret Service) then one is free, as Kerry
obviously felt he was free, to heap profanities upon that person. I wonder
if Arne would like to personally test that theory? Perhaps Arne would like
to head down to the local watering hole outside of a Marine base, step
inside, order a beer, jump up on a table and loudly proclaim to the
assembled Marines in that barroom, "I never fall down, and you guys are a
bunch of F'ing jerks who get in my way on the ski slopes." Confident in
the fact that those Marines have all pledged to die on behalf of their
country (including Arne, a citizen of that country), Arne could then sit
down at a table and quietly consume his beer. Or maybe not.......
Third, why does Arne feel that just because Kerry's priority at that moment
was skiing down that slope that therefore he, Kerry, is allowed to behave
like a rich yahoo and spew profanities at the OTHER people who were on the
slope at that time, with THEIR own priorities? Arne failed to explain
that.
Andy Galehouse
"John Fraude Kerry" <F'ing...@dnc.com> wrote in message
news:E4X6c.47166$_w.751446@attbi_s53...
You guys are pathetic. Our people are dying in Iraq, the terrorists are
still mounting attacks and we're no safer now than we were a year ago and
this is what you guys want to focus on? Get a life and get some perspective.
T.Carr
> SikOfLibs wrote:
>
> > Sometime during this episode, he supposedly tumbled 6 times on the way down
> > the slope all on his own, after he said "I don't fall down". .
> > http://www.drudgereport.com/kerryid2.htm
>
Arne Langsetmo <zu...@bangspam.ix.netcom.com
> You misspelled "allegedly". I'd note that the "report" claims
> that his (supposed) six falls (not all of which were seen, which
> makes you wonder how they make this stu-- ... um, I mean, get
> this "information) were not necessarily after his alleged comment,
> But they were allegedly after he'd reportedly hiked up the mountain,
> something that indicates to _me_ as an experienced winter sports
> aficionado that he wasn't exactly going down the Duby-- ... umm,
> sorry, I mean "BunnyParts" runs. . . .
>
> Snowboarding isn't for the faint of heart; you should try it
> when you're over forty five, and come back and tell me how _your_
> tailbone feels afterwards. . . .
Anyone who snowboard/ski's and claims "I dont fall down" has some
serious problems with the truth.(imo)
T.Carr
John Fraude Kerry
Not only that, but we control the House, Senate, White House, the majority
of the state legislatures, and the majority of the state governorships. And
we just won the race for the governorships of California, Kentucky, and
Mississippi too.
Now tell us what you Democrats have accomplished lately, willya?
> Our people are dying in Iraq, the terrorists are
They're not YOUR people. They are Americans, while you Democrats are from
another planet.
> still mounting attacks and we're no safer now than we were a year ago and
Gee, I guess that means you Democrats want us to stop trying to hunt down
the terrorists, just curl up into the fetal position, whimper softly, and
hope and pray that Bad Mr. Muslim Terrorist won't hurt us any more, huh?
> this is what you guys want to focus on? Get a life and get some
perspective.
Judging by his plummet in the polls, it's the Kerry Campaign that needs to
"get a life", Honey.
Andy Galehouse
They are my people and I care about them and my country every bit as much as
you do. With this post you have proven yourself to be unworthy of the energy
it would take for further follow-ups with you. Carry on.
Spamuel T. Rap
> Jim01 wrote:
> > Give me a break man, this secret service guy's job is to keep Kerry
> > from harm - at the very least he should not CAUSE harm. If he's
> > that clutzy maybe he should be re-assigned to a desk.
>
> But first humiliated in public by the man who
> he has pledged to lay down his life for, right?
> Well, Kerry, *is* a liberal, after all, so he
> has to show that he knows how to abuse
> the servants.
You're confused. It is the wealthy right, with their
inborn sense of entitlement and scorn for the poor &
disadvantaged, who condescend to & abuse the servants.
-Jeremy(Jesse Helms, among others, comes to mind...)
Martin McPhillips
news:%UW6c.39274$8G2....@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
>
> news:7bR6c.49016$aT1....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> > But FWIW, these are guys that have pledged to take a bullet
> > for their charges. Do you think they can handle an
> > (alleged) cross word? Exactly who was the "injured
> > party" here in your opinion, McFoulup, and what are
> > _your_ priorities and values here?
Gosh, Arne, you're still such a ranting crank.
An most unfortunate case, indeed.
I think that most Americans have enough class to
know that you don't haughtily call the guy pledged
to lay down his life for you a "son of a bitch" because
he bumped you on the ski slope while trying to
protect you.
Anyway...
> The point here is that a man who will be so petty as to talk about
his
> protective detail the way Kerry did, does not have the maturity to
be
> President.
Four weeks with John Kerry is several long years.
He was even complaining about the snow yesterday.
He's just a nasty guy with a rich wife, and his
shit doesn't stink.
----
Martin McPhillips
news:uebn505vqd5ldv3bc...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 00:34:35 GMT, "Martin McPhillips"
> <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >I think that most Americans are sensitive to abject
> >rudeness by presidential candidates to the people
> >who pledge to lay down their lives to protect presidental
> >candidates.
> >
> >Maybe you're in the minority on that issue.
>
John Kerry is a boor and an ass, whether
I'm partisan or not.
I'll be very surprised if he's still competitive
in this election by the time the conventions
roll around. He's as bad a candidate as
Bob Dole was, maybe worse, and he
should limp to the finish line in about the
same shape Dole was in at the end.
But it was a clever strategy for Democrats,
who woke up screaming in the middle of the
night in January in a cold sweat, panicked
by the realization that they were about to
nominate an angry Vermont liberal, to
nominate instead an angry Massachusetts
liberal who is to the left of Ted Kennedy.
George Bush would have to be caught
in bed with a dead girl or a live boy to
lose this election.
Adam Albright
So maturity is important to you. Then explain how mature is was of
Bush the frat boy to get fall down drunk and be unable to take a
physical as ordered, then being banned from flying for disobeying
ordered, and then shortly after going AWOL. Doesn't sound very mature
to me. In fact it a pattern Bush followed his whole miserable life.
Get in trouble, run to daddy to bail him out.
SemiScholar
<dhar...@quixnet.net> wrote:
It was all a good-natured guy joke. All guys understand this.
Therefore I conclude that you're probably a woman. Women don't get
how guys talk to each other and jive and diss one another.
But if you want to deal with serious examples, how about when Dubya
said "There's Adam Clymer - major league asshole", or when he raged
and swore at Al Hunt in front of his wife and child at a restaurant?
"You [expletive] son of a bitch," Bush yelled. "I saw what you wrote.
We're not going to forget this."
Oh well, just another example of the right wing's double standards.
Arne Langsetmo
> Where in my post did I use the word "allegedly?
Where did I say you did? You're kinda slow, arntcha?
For the cognitively challenged here, I'll spell it out
in short words:
You _didn't_ say "allegedly". That was the point.
Too many faceplants on the snowboard without a helmet, eh?
Cheers,
-- Arne Langsetmo
Arne Langsetmo
> Arne Langsetmo <zu...@bangspam.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:<a0R6c.49006$aT1....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
>
>>SikOfLibs wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Sometime during this episode, he supposedly tumbled 6 times on the way down
>>>the slope all on his own, after he said "I don't fall down". .
>>>http://www.drudgereport.com/kerryid2.htm
>>
>
> Arne Langsetmo <zu...@bangspam.ix.netcom.com
>
>
>>You misspelled "allegedly". I'd note that the "report" claims
>>that his (supposed) six falls (not all of which were seen, which
>>makes you wonder how they make this stu-- ... um, I mean, get
>>this "information) were not necessarily after his alleged comment,
>>But they were allegedly after he'd reportedly hiked up the mountain,
>>something that indicates to _me_ as an experienced winter sports
>>aficionado that he wasn't exactly going down the Duby-- ... umm,
>>sorry, I mean "BunnyParts" runs. . . .
>>
>>Snowboarding isn't for the faint of heart; you should try it
>>when you're over forty five, and come back and tell me how _your_
>>tailbone feels afterwards. . . .
>
> Anyone who snowboard/ski's and claims "I dont fall down" has some
> serious problems with the truth.(imo)
I don't fall down. Gravity makes its acquaintance. The mogul bites
me. My compensation is "vigorous". I acquire a thirst for snow.
Whoopdedoo. Anyone who boards/skis wouldn't think much of such
a comment. We've all fallen, and if we don't continue to fall,
we are sitting in front of the fire and not out challenging
ourselves on the slopes.
I've been taken out by boarders (and skiers) before. I know
what it's like. I've even had a few mutually arranged spatial coincidences
with others. But so far I haven't taken anyone else out while
boarding, thank goodness. If I did, I'd recognize who's at fault,
and there's not a lot wrong with saying someone else took you out,
when that happens as well (as it does a bit too often).
I'd note that Kerry apparently hiked up for that one run. If you
do winter sports, you know that the runs that you have to hike to
are _not_ the Duby-- ... umm, sorry, "BunnyPants" ... runs. So when
the fat Drudge goes on about Kerry falling (allegedly) six times,
an doesn't bother with saying that Kerry was on the double-Ds
(or off them), he is painting at the very least an uninformed,
if not vindictive, picture.
Dana
news:a0R6c.49006$aT1....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> > Sometime during this episode, he supposedly tumbled 6 times on the way
down
> > the slope all on his own, after he said "I don't fall down". .
> > http://www.drudgereport.com/kerryid2.htm
>
> You misspelled "allegedly".
Better check your reading skills. The word "allegedly" was not used.
Bill Bonde ( Straight invective is not satire; satire must deliberately overshoot its mark. )
Andy Galehouse wrote:
>
> This petty sniping about supposed glimpses into Kerry's psyche WRT his
> manners seems pathetically desperate.
>
It's March. The campaign hasn't really started. Talking about Kerry's
really weird behaviour, this ain' the firs' time he's flipped out over
bloody nothin, seems apropos.
> Of course it's all about attempting to
> distract the public from the real issues. You guys are running scared and
> it's so obvious.
>
What are the real issues? When will Kerry ride around in a tank?
--
Martha should've learned how to lie to the court and the prosecutors,
taking a lesson from, say, Bill Clinton: Don't say anything if you don't
have to. Talk in a gibberish that could mean anything. Talk about things
that have nothing to do with the case. How about them Mets? Try to limit
the amount of time before the grand jury. Carefully formulate your
canned responses such that you have a plausible defence later if someone
figures them out. I did not have sexual relations with that woman. Ask
questions. What is the meaning of 'is'? Martha seems to have ignored all
these time tested rules and instead gone off on the silly route of
concrete denials, which tends only to get to locked up behind thick
block walls and razor wire.
Instead of referring to the message note that she changed as not being a
message note that she changed, she should have referred to it in the
passive, as a message note that was changed. By whom?, and this is the
clincher, she doesn't remember. They can never get you if you don't
remember. Who stole the jewels from the safe? I don't remember. Better
yet, I don't remember what jewels you are talking about. In fact, I
don't remember why we are even here. At this point, all you recall for
sure is that you need to take a powder.
Bill Bonde ( Straight invective is not satire; satire must deliberately overshoot its mark. )
Andy Galehouse wrote:
>
>
> You guys are pathetic. Our people are dying in Iraq, the terrorists are
> still mounting attacks and we're no safer now than we were a year ago and
> this is what you guys want to focus on? Get a life and get some perspective.
>
Do you really want to talk about Iraq and the threat of terrorism that
we face? Is that a winning issue for Kerry? He's already said that the
threat of terrorism is 'exaggerated'. Is he going to flip-flop on that
and claim that Bush isn't doing enough, not taking the threat seriously
enough? That's got to be too much even for a Democrat, even for John
Kerry, to munster.
Andy Galehouse
"Dana" <#> wrote in message
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Wow! Whooosh again!
Bill Bonde ( Straight invective is not satire; satire must deliberately overshoot its mark. )
Adam Albright wrote:
>
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 12:36:11 GMT, "David Hartung"
> <dhar...@quixnet.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Arne Langsetmo" <zu...@bangspam.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> >news:7bR6c.49016$aT1....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >
> >> But FWIW, these are guys that have pledged to take a bullet
> >> for their charges. Do you think they can handle an
> >> (alleged) cross word? Exactly who was the "injured
> >> party" here in your opinion, McFoulup, and what are
> >> _your_ priorities and values here?
> >
> >The point here is that a man who will be so petty as to talk about his
> >protective detail the way Kerry did, does not have the maturity to be
> >President.
>
> So maturity is important to you. Then explain how mature is was of
> Bush the frat boy to get fall down drunk and be unable to take a
> physical as ordered,
>
If that actually happened, it certainly wasn't very mature. Of course
when are you claiming he did that, 1972 or something like that? (The
connection to being drunk and not being able to take a physical isn't
clear to me, perhaps some elucidation is in order)
Bill Bonde ( Straight invective is not satire; satire must deliberately overshoot its mark. )
Riley The Dog wrote:
>
> > But: "I don't fall. That blankety-blank
> > knocked me down"?
>
> You're right. If he laughed it off he would have shown himself to be a
> pretty cool guy.
> He seems to have some serious issues. What an insecure arrogant ass.
>
Look at this picture and caption it with just what Kerry said:
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040318/capt.efa10203182031.topix_democrats_kerry_efa102.jpg
Bill Bonde ( Straight invective is not satire; satire must deliberately overshoot its mark. )
Bugman wrote:
>
> "Riley The Dog" <wo...@wag.com> wrote in message
> news:c0N6c.8030$n37.8...@read2.cgocable.net...
> > You're right. If he laughed it off he would have shown himself to be a
> > pretty cool guy.
> > He seems to have some serious issues. What an insecure arrogant ass.
> >
> Maybe he was laughing about it. "It wasn't me, it was the other guy. Ha-Ha"
>
It doesn't really matter unless you can get some people who were there
to testify that the initial reports are wrong. If Kerry wants to win, he
needs to start now changing his imagine from the rich boy asshole to a
regular guy. I would definitely lose the snow board and use regular
skis. Yes snow boards are hip, but given Kerry's look, the lack of poles
makes him look even more like a show off, an asshole.
> You guys are taking it like he said "Go fuck your mama"
>
Everything is perception. "I don't fall down!" suggests attitude, bad
attitude. The snow board, the sunglasses, the lack of poles, the
expletive when it was just a minor bump, who cares, suggests something.
It all matters. Nixon lost a debate for want of using make up. Gore lost
a debate for using too much. Kerry's lucky this happened now, although I
think we can bring it back up. It will all depend on how he acts from
now on. Will he reinforce the "Kerry is a rich boy asshole" look and
feel or will he try to be your average joe?
Bill Bonde ( Straight invective is not satire; satire must deliberately overshoot its mark. )
Dickmcb wrote:
>
> > someone gets in my way skiing I'll call him a son of a bitch too.
> *****************************************
> Assuming that Kerry actually said "son of a bitch" when he fell, which I
> seriously doubt then there are two ways to say "son of a bitch". One,is when
> you make a mistake and do something like fall down on a ski course and just
> say" son of a bitch" to youself as you are going down. The other is to
> actually call someone else a SOB which I very seriously do not think Kerry
> did.
>
Couple the SOB comment with the other quote: "I don't fall down!" and
you got the material for John Kerry's tank ride back to the Northeast.
Bill Bonde ( Straight invective is not satire; satire must deliberately overshoot its mark. )
SikOfLibs wrote:
>
> Sometime during this episode, he supposedly tumbled 6 times on the way down
> the slope all on his own, after he said "I don't fall down". .
>
So he lies too, more cannon fodder for the gristmill.
John Fraude Kerry
> I'd note that Kerry apparently hiked up for that one run. If you
> do winter sports, you know that the runs that you have to hike to
> are _not_ the Duby-- ... umm, sorry, "BunnyPants" ... runs. So when
> the fat Drudge goes on about Kerry falling (allegedly) six times,
> an doesn't bother with saying that Kerry was on the double-Ds
> (or off them), he is painting at the very least an uninformed,
> if not vindictive, picture.
That's none of your business.
John Fraude Kerry
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 12:36:11 GMT, "David Hartung"
> <dhar...@quixnet.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Arne Langsetmo" <zu...@bangspam.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> >news:7bR6c.49016$aT1....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >
> >> But FWIW, these are guys that have pledged to take a bullet
> >> for their charges. Do you think they can handle an
> >> (alleged) cross word? Exactly who was the "injured
> >> party" here in your opinion, McFoulup, and what are
> >> _your_ priorities and values here?
> >
> >The point here is that a man who will be so petty as to talk about his
> >protective detail the way Kerry did, does not have the maturity to be
> >President.
>
>
> It was all a good-natured guy joke. All guys understand this.
> Therefore I conclude that you're probably a woman. Women don't get
> how guys talk to each other and jive and diss one another.
"John Kerry is a pompous, self-righteous, arrogant, rich northeastern
liberal Democrat asshole!"
(Hey, it's just a good-natured joke, OK? All Democrat guys understand
this.)
Adam Albright
is not satire; satire must deliberately overshoot its mark. )"
You're in denial again. Countless times Bush's military records
CONFIRMING he didn't take an ordered physical and was suspended from
ever flying again were posted and even the white house released the
same reports. Yet you pretend "if that actually happened". Damn Bonde,
you're psycho for sure.
SemiScholar
Wow. You can't tell the difference between good-natured joking about
falling down and mean-spirited vituperation? The first clue is the
part where Kerry said "I don't fall". That's the dead giveaway, even
without hearing the inflection, that it was all a joke. *EVERYBODY*
falls while snowboarding and skiing. It's part of the deal.
Especially when you haven't done it for a while. And then part of the
joke is to say "this guy made me fall."
So is it the term "son of a bitch" that galls you, or is it the joking
about falling down on the slopes?
Sheesh!
>
>
>
>(Hey, it's just a good-natured joke, OK? All Democrat guys understand
>this.)
Uhhh.. sure, okay.
Adam Albright
Does that advice pertain to Bush as well Billy asshole? Would be nice
if Bush came clean and said what he was doing all those missing months
when he was suppose to be serving in the guard and wasn't. Would be
nice for Bush to come clear as to the REAL reasons why both his Maine
and Texas driving records needed to be eaased and him given clean ones
once he was in the political spotlight. Why new driving records? All
the drunk driving, reckless drives and moving offenses deleted no
doubt. Would be nice if Bush came clean and said yes/no he was or
wasn't taking drugs in his wilder days instead of drawing a line and
saying fuck you, I won't answer for that period.
You see Billy fuck-up, you are just a highly partisan asswipe that has
a double standard. You want Kerry to reveal everything about his past,
yet it OK with you if Bush has a closet full of secrets.
You have ZERO creditability Billy, because of stupid posts like you
just made. Please continue. Making you look like the asshole you are
is easy... you do most of the work yourself.
Spamuel T. Rap
> [...]
> I think that most Americans have enough class to
> know that you don't haughtily call the guy pledged
> to lay down his life for you a "son of a bitch" because
> he bumped you on the ski slope while trying to
> protect you.
Another "conservative" ideologue who wouldn't know a joke
if it poked him in the heiny.
"I *never* fall down."
Only a literalist without the capacity for nuanced thought
would take that as anything but a self-deprecating joke.
> He's just a nasty guy with a rich wife, and his
> shit doesn't stink.
Bush is a nasty guy with a rich father. I don't know
anything about his shit, but I imagine that it does
stink. BTW, what's your source on the Kerry shit
stinklessness?
On the one hand: nasty guy with rich wife & stinkless shit.
On the other hand: nasty guy with rich father & stinky shit.
Hard to decide based on the information as given. ;-)
-Jeremy
SemiScholar
T. Rap) wrote:
>Martin McPhillips wrote:
>> [...]
>> I think that most Americans have enough class to
>> know that you don't haughtily call the guy pledged
>> to lay down his life for you a "son of a bitch" because
>> he bumped you on the ski slope while trying to
>> protect you.
>
>Another "conservative" ideologue who wouldn't know a joke
>if it poked him in the heiny.
>
> "I *never* fall down."
>
>Only a literalist without the capacity for nuanced thought
>would take that as anything but a self-deprecating joke.
Or a political ideologue whose candidate is looking really bad and is
likely to lose the election. They are desperate to do ANYthing they
can to discredit their opposition, and this is just a straw they're
frantically grasping at. But it's just silliness, of course.
Martin McPhillips
> On 20 Mar 2004 12:36:39 -0800, hormelca...@hotmail.com (Spamuel
> T. Rap) wrote:
>
> >Martin McPhillips wrote:
> >> [...]
> >> I think that most Americans have enough class to
> >> know that you don't haughtily call the guy pledged
> >> to lay down his life for you a "son of a bitch" because
> >> he bumped you on the ski slope while trying to
> >> protect you.
> >
> >Another "conservative" ideologue who wouldn't know a joke
> >if it poked him in the heiny.
> >
> > "I *never* fall down."
> >
> >Only a literalist without the capacity for nuanced thought
> >would take that as anything but a self-deprecating joke.
>
> Or a political ideologue whose candidate is looking really bad and
is
> likely to lose the election. They are desperate to do ANYthing they
> can to discredit their opposition, and this is just a straw they're
> frantically grasping at. But it's just silliness, of course.
My information on this came from the New York
Times. And the Times doesn't describe a "self-deprecating
joke." It describes an asshole in an unguarded moment:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/19/politics/campaign/19KERR.html
=====
The image-conscious candidate and his aides prevailed upon reporters
and photographers to let him have a first run down the mountain solo,
except for two agents and Marvin Nicholson, his omnipresent right-hand
man.
His next trip down, a reporter and a camera crew were allowed to
follow along on skis - just in time to see Mr. Kerry taken out by one
of the Secret Service men, who had inadvertently moved into his path,
sending him into the snow.
When asked about the mishap a moment later, he said sharply, "I don't
fall down," then used an expletive to describe the agent who "knocked
me over."
The incident occurred near the summit. No one was hurt, and Mr. Kerry
came careering down the mountain moments later, a look of intensity on
his face, his lanky frame bent low to the ground.
=====
Martin McPhillips
news:f0db19c8.04032...@posting.google.com...
> Martin McPhillips wrote:
> > [...]
> > I think that most Americans have enough class to
> > know that you don't haughtily call the guy pledged
> > to lay down his life for you a "son of a bitch" because
> > he bumped you on the ski slope while trying to
> > protect you.
>
> Another "conservative" ideologue who wouldn't know a joke
> if it poked him in the heiny.
>
> "I *never* fall down."
>
> Only a literalist without the capacity for nuanced thought
> would take that as anything but a self-deprecating joke.
My information on this came from the New York
Andy Galehouse
"Martin McPhillips" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Es27c.3122$DV6...@twister.nyc.rr.com...
Even if (and I for one doubt the intended tone), so fucking what? This is
all you've got to talk about? Seriously, buy some perspective if you can't
find any. You're pathetic.
Andy Galehouse
John Stanton
<nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>"Spamuel T. Rap" <hormelca...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:f0db19c8.04032...@posting.google.com...
>> Martin McPhillips wrote:
>> > [...]
>> > I think that most Americans have enough class to
>> > know that you don't haughtily call the guy pledged
>> > to lay down his life for you a "son of a bitch" because
>> > he bumped you on the ski slope while trying to
>> > protect you.
>>
>> Another "conservative" ideologue who wouldn't know a joke
>> if it poked him in the heiny.
>>
>> "I *never* fall down."
>>
>> Only a literalist without the capacity for nuanced thought
>> would take that as anything but a self-deprecating joke.
>
>My information on this came from the New York
>Times.
Since when do conservatives begin to consider the New York Times an
unimpeachable, unerring source of the truth?
Is it as unbiased as Ruddy's newsmax.com?
Martin McPhillips
news:YN27c.41469$8G2....@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
John Kerry has a well-known reputation for haughty
behavior with the lesser folks -- DYKWIA moments.
You'll find out soon enough.
Andy Galehouse
"John Stanton" <stant...@example.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:84ep50l99ubjedc3n...@4ax.com...
thought problem thing again.
Martin McPhillips
Well, put aside for a moment the graceless aspect of it,
and just consider how stupid it is to talk like that
about someone who is supposed to guard your
life at the cost of his own.
I don't know about you, but I'd like my bodyguard
not to have even that momentary pause where he
thinks, as the crazed gunman comes skiing out of
the trees or comes staggering out of the hotel
bar, "Do I *really* want to die for this prick?"
> This is
> all you've got to talk about?
You're welcome to stop responding in this thread.
> Seriously, buy some perspective if you can't
> find any. You're pathetic.
You have much more to learn about John Kerry.
Much more.
----
"I actually did vote for the $87 billion before
I voted against it."
After the election, voters should greet Kerry on
the street by saying: "Hey, Senator, I actually
did vote for you before I voted against you."
Andy Galehouse
managed to keep some perspective, so your mileage may vary.
Riley The Dog
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 00:09:21 -0500, "Riley The Dog" <wo...@wag.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"SemiScholar" <noe...@spambegone.com> wrote in message
> >> On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 20:22:20 -0500, "Riley The Dog" <wo...@wag.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Martin McPhillips" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> >> "Bill Bonde ( Straight invective is not satire; satire must
> >> >> deliberately overshoot its mark. )" <std...@backpacker.com> wrote
> >> >> message news:405B63E6...@backpacker.com...
> >> >> >
> >>
> >> >> I think that I say: "Don't worry about
> >> >> it. You're doing your job. I appreciate
> >> >> it."
> >> >>
> >> >> And to onlookers: "Got tangled up with
> >> >> my guardian angels up there and went down.
> >> >> We need more practice at this."
> >> >>
> >> >> But: "I don't fall. That blankety-blank
> >> >> knocked me down"?
> >> >
> >> >pretty cool guy.
> >> >He seems to have some serious issues. What an insecure arrogant ass.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> thing is just comical as hell. Kerry joked about falling down saying
> >> "that son-of-a-bitch tripped me". That's a good-natured jibe, and
> >> clearly meant as a joke. But you wackos want so desperately to claim
> >> it was something else.
> >>
> >> Unbelievable.
> >
> >I hear what your saying.
> >I'm sure it could be a matter
> >of interpetation.
> >
> >After all The New York Times can be
> >a little un-reliable.
>
>
> What did the New York Times say about the incident?
Riley The Dog
"Spamuel T. Rap" <hormelca...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f0db19c8.04032...@posting.google.com...
> Martin McPhillips wrote:
> > > Give me a break man, this secret service guy's job is to keep Kerry
> > > from harm - at the very least he should not CAUSE harm. If he's
> > > that clutzy maybe he should be re-assigned to a desk.
> >
> > But first humiliated in public by the man who
> > he has pledged to lay down his life for, right?
> > Well, Kerry, *is* a liberal, after all, so he
> > has to show that he knows how to abuse
> > the servants.
>
> You're confused. It is the wealthy right, with their
> inborn sense of entitlement and scorn for the poor &
> disadvantaged, who condescend to & abuse the servants.
>
> -Jeremy(Jesse Helms, among others, comes to mind...)
Aparently Not in this case.
Martin McPhillips
news:84ep50l99ubjedc3n...@4ax.com...
It's what falls under the category of "a statement
against interest." I got the impression that the Times
reporter was trying to round the corners on Frenchie's
demeanor and behavior, without actually sanitizing
it. But the point is that the article says that Kerry
responded "sharply," i.e., took a sharp tone, when
asked about the fall, not a "self-deprecating" tone.
Martin McPhillips
One doesn't "fear" haughty behavior; one is put off
by it.
Andy Galehouse
tone must not be tolerated! Why, we can't have a man in the White House who
sharpens his tone! Next thing you know he'll be giving people the evil eye
or the silent treatment! Thanks for warning us, Martin!
Martin McPhillips
So, let's see. We're back to the fact that Kerry intoned
*sharply* that "I don't fall" and then used an expletive
to describe the Secret Service agent who "knocked
me down," said agent being sworn to give his life
to protect Kerry's.
It wasn't a moment of self-deprecation. It was,
however, a moment of deprecation.
Andy Galehouse
interpreted accurately. 2) Even if it was, I don't care. A haughty attitude
isn't getting our boys and girls killed. This misguided, ill-advised, poorly
planned vendetta is! Why in the fuck are you guys even bringing this petty
shit up? Seriously -- are you that morally bankrupt?
Martin McPhillips
Maybe, but that's consistent with the way he treats people.
You saw a similar example earlier in the week when
the guy at a town meeting asked him who the foreign
leaders were he'd been talking to.
> 2) Even if it was, I don't care. A haughty attitude
> isn't getting our boys and girls killed.
Changing the subject is a way to, well, change the
subject. But Kerry isn't going to do anything
but confuse military issues and demoralize troops.
You do you mean by "boys and girls" the U.S.
military? The most lethal "boys and girls" in the world?
> This misguided, ill-advised, poorly
> planned vendetta is! Why in the fuck are you guys even bringing this
petty
> shit up? Seriously -- are you that morally bankrupt?
So, let me see if I've got this right -- you think
that there's no reason to consider Kerry's
character (he *is* running for president) because
you're against the war in Iraq.
Pal, Kerry voted for the war in Iraq, and then
he didn't vote to fund the "boys and girls"
over there after he said it would be "irresponsible"
and "reckless" not to fund them.
So, perhaps you need to take a closer look,
at John Kerry.
Bill Bonde ( Straight invective is not satire; satire must deliberately overshoot its mark. )
"Spamuel T. Rap" wrote:
>
> Martin McPhillips wrote:
> > [...]
> > I think that most Americans have enough class to
> > know that you don't haughtily call the guy pledged
> > to lay down his life for you a "son of a bitch" because
> > he bumped you on the ski slope while trying to
> > protect you.
>
> Another "conservative" ideologue who wouldn't know a joke
> if it poked him in the heiny.
>
> "I *never* fall down."
>
> Only a literalist without the capacity for nuanced thought
> would take that as anything but a self-deprecating joke.
>
That might be how you'd take it if someone said it after just falling
down. In this case, Kerry called the Secret Service against an son of a
bitch and claimed that he, Kerry, never falls down. Couple that with
this photo:
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040318/capt.efa10203182031.topix_democrats_kerry_efa102.jpg
Adam Albright
is not satire; satire must deliberately overshoot its mark. )"
Billy, you're such a desperate fuck-up. Self-deprecating humor is
common. So is banter between people that are friends or working
together. I wouldn't expect a ASSHOLE like you to understand how
friends sometimes talk to each other playfully because obviously you
have no friends and wouldn't know.
For example: I might see a co-worker spill coffee on a report he was
reading and if I know him well enough and understand his sense of
humor I might say "you clumsy asshole". He may repond with "fuck you"
or something else. Its playing Billy.
But rest assured, when I call you or other right wing loons fuck-ups,
or loons, or assholes, etc., I damn well DO mean it because that's
exactly what you are. You leave no room for doubt.
banjocat
First of all... I'm not so sure this story has any merit.
Now, look at it from another perspective...
Do we want someone, who can't keep his dumb ass out of the way, assigned
to such duty?
Jim E
<Bu...@awol.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 20:34:25 GMT, "Martin McPhillips"
> <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >"Bill Bonde ( Straight invective is not satire; satire must
> >message news:405B5545...@backpacker.com...
>
> >What do you say to someone who has pledged to
> >lay down his life in your defense,
>
>
> Certainly not the same thing you'd say to a fucking usnet moron who
> drops to his knees anytime loony Bonde calls.
>
Ah yes, the time honored "shoot the messenger" deflection
from the issue.
A true lib loser tactic.
Jim E
Jim E
"Bill Bonde ( Straight invective is not satire; satire must deliberately
overshoot its mark. )" <std...@backpacker.com> wrote in message
>
> >
> > What do you say to someone who has pledged to
> > lay down his life in your defense, will take a bullet
> > for you, when he accidentally knocks you down
> > while you are out skiing?
> >
> > How about: "Don't worry about it. You're just
> > trying to do your job. I appreciate it."
> >
> But not Kerry. He behaves like he's on steroids or something.
Not steroids, just the typical response of a rich self centered
megalomaniac with delusions of competence.
The *little people* are so inept, why should he have to put up with them?
Jim E
Jim E
"Andy Gale
> >
>
> You guys are pathetic. Our people are dying in Iraq, the terrorists are
> still mounting attacks and we're no safer now than we were a year ago and
> this is what you guys want to focus on? Get a life and get some
perspective.
>
>
We were talking about the pathetic dem candidate for Pres.
Are you having a little trouble staying on topic?
Defensive little loser attempts change of painful subject.
Jim E
Robert
> > On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 12:36:11 GMT, "David Hartung"
> > <dhar...@quixnet.net> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Arne Langsetmo" <zu...@bangspam.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > >news:7bR6c.49016$aT1....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > >
> > >> But FWIW, these are guys that have pledged to take a bullet
> > >> for their charges. Do you think they can handle an
> > >> (alleged) cross word? Exactly who was the "injured
> > >> party" here in your opinion, McFoulup, and what are
> > >> _your_ priorities and values here?
> > >
> > >The point here is that a man who will be so petty as to talk about his
> > >protective detail the way Kerry did, does not have the maturity to be
> > >President.
> >
> >
> > It was all a good-natured guy joke. All guys understand this.
> > Therefore I conclude that you're probably a woman. Women don't get
> > how guys talk to each other and jive and diss one another.
>
>
> "John Kerry is a pompous, self-righteous, arrogant, rich northeastern
> liberal Democrat asshole!"
>
>
>
>
> (Hey, it's just a good-natured joke, OK? All Democrat guys understand
> this.)
Kerrey might have a lot of money from his wife but hes No Gentleman.
Thats why hes called John F**king. Americans will Never Elect some one
who talks Like That to the Presidensy.
SemiScholar
Aside from which, the NYT article doesn't say anything approaching
what McFly claims it does. Actually, I doubt that even he thinks it
does - it's hard to believe that even he is that dumb. He's just
trying to make some political hay out of nothing because he realizes
that Bush is in serious trouble and is likely to lose the election.
SemiScholar
<An...@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>Okay, I swear this is my last post on this. 1) I doubt Kerry's tone was
>interpreted accurately. 2) Even if it was, I don't care. A haughty attitude
>isn't getting our boys and girls killed. This misguided, ill-advised, poorly
>planned vendetta is! Why in the fuck are you guys even bringing this petty
>shit up? Seriously -- are you that morally bankrupt?
Yes, they are. Remember the Clinton impeachment?
The SOB knocked me down!
Yes, what about it?
The SOB knocked me down!
Yes, if you are defining "in serious trouble" as "Bush leading John Kerry by
8 points in the latest CBS/New York Times poll".
Spamuel T. Rap
> Jeremy wrote:
> > [...]
> > Another "conservative" ideologue who wouldn't know a joke
> > if it poked him in the heiny.
> > "I *never* fall down."
> > Only a literalist without the capacity for nuanced thought
> > would take that as anything but a self-deprecating joke.
> >
> That might be how you'd take it if someone said it after just falling
> down. In this case, Kerry called the Secret Service against an son of a
> bitch and claimed that he, Kerry, never falls down. Couple that with
> this photo:
> http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040318/capt.efa10203182031.topix_democrats_kerry_efa102.jpg
"...called the Secret Service against an son of a bitch"?
Do you think as sloppily as you write?
You are all hopelessly blindered by your irrational hatred of
Democrats, upon whom you project everything awful in human
behavior. Y'all need the services of a competant psychiatrist.
Peace, out.
-Jeremy(And by "out" I mean I'm signing off & won't read your replies, if any.)
Martin McPhillips
Ah, SugarPuss, I think Bush will win the election fairly
handily.
And the New York Times article 1. does not describe
anything like "self-deprecating humor" as Kerry says
"I don't fall," nor 2. anything like a good-natured
ribbing of the Secret Service agent who he
apparently called a "son of a bitch" for bumping
into him on the mountain and causing him to fall.
The sense conveyed by the New York Times article
is that of a boorish lout.
Bill Bonde ( Straight invective is not satire; satire must deliberately overshoot its mark. )
"Spamuel T. Rap" wrote:
>
> Bill Bonde wrote:
> > Jeremy wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > Another "conservative" ideologue who wouldn't know a joke
> > > if it poked him in the heiny.
> > > "I *never* fall down."
> > > Only a literalist without the capacity for nuanced thought
> > > would take that as anything but a self-deprecating joke.
> > >
> > That might be how you'd take it if someone said it after just falling
> > down. In this case, Kerry called the Secret Service against an son of a
> > bitch and claimed that he, Kerry, never falls down. Couple that with
> > this photo:
> > http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040318/capt.efa10203182031.topix_democrats_kerry_efa102.jpg
>
> "...called the Secret Service against an son of a bitch"?
>
> Do you think as sloppily as you write?
>
Now you want to try to protect Kerry by attacking a typo?
> You are all hopelessly blindered by your irrational hatred of
> Democrats, upon whom you project everything awful in human
> behavior. Y'all need the services of a competant psychiatrist.
>
Oh, sure, so let's look at you, ascribing every evil to Bush, the
president who finally did every thing he could to protect us from
terrorism. Meanwhile, Kerry says, "The terrorism threat is exaggerated."
Adam Albright
is not satire; satire must deliberately overshoot its mark. )"
>
>
>"Spamuel T. Rap" wrote:
>>
>> Bill Bonde wrote:
>> > Jeremy wrote:
>> > > [...]
>> > > Another "conservative" ideologue who wouldn't know a joke
>> > > if it poked him in the heiny.
>> > > "I *never* fall down."
>> > > Only a literalist without the capacity for nuanced thought
>> > > would take that as anything but a self-deprecating joke.
>> > >
>> > That might be how you'd take it if someone said it after just falling
>> > down. In this case, Kerry called the Secret Service against an son of a
>> > bitch and claimed that he, Kerry, never falls down. Couple that with
>> > this photo:
>> > http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040318/capt.efa10203182031.topix_democrats_kerry_efa102.jpg
>>
>> "...called the Secret Service against an son of a bitch"?
>>
>> Do you think as sloppily as you write?
>>
>Now you want to try to protect Kerry by attacking a typo?
Why do you have your head stuck up Bush's ass?
Arne Langsetmo
> "Arne Langsetmo" <zu...@bangspam.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:7bR6c.49016$aT1....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
>
>>But FWIW, these are guys that have pledged to take a bullet
>>for their charges. Do you think they can handle an
>>(alleged) cross word? Exactly who was the "injured
>>party" here in your opinion, McFoulup, and what are
>>_your_ priorities and values here?
>
> The point here is that a man who will be so petty as to talk about his
> protective detail the way Kerry did, does not have the maturity to be
> President.
Non-responsive to my point, I'd say.
But seeing as we're going OT here, what do you think of a
person who uses the phrase "major league asshole" for someone
who _didn't_ just bowl him over? Is that person an immature
person, big time?
How about when he gets into a (drunken?) confrontation with
Al Hunt, and starts cursing him out in front of Hunt's
wife and children?
Your vision is rather selective, it seems. How Republican
of you. . . .
Cheers,
-- Arne Langsetmo
Arne Langsetmo
> "David Hartung" <dhar...@quixnet.net> wrote in message
> news:%UW6c.39274$8G2....@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
>
>>"Arne Langsetmo" <zu...@bangspam.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>>news:7bR6c.49016$aT1....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>
>>
>>>But FWIW, these are guys that have pledged to take a bullet
>>>for their charges. Do you think they can handle an
>>>(alleged) cross word? Exactly who was the "injured
>>>party" here in your opinion, McFoulup, and what are
>>>_your_ priorities and values here?
>>
>>The point here is that a man who will be so petty as to talk about his
>>protective detail the way Kerry did, does not have the maturity to be
>>President.
>
> How pathetic an argument Arne just attempted to mount. First, let us make
> note of his namecalling. . . .
Oh, sure, why not, Mr. "John Fraude Kerry"? . . . ROFL. . . .
> . . . In typical liberal Democrat fashion, he was unable
> to address the issue itself . . .
I think you need to check your newsreader software. I posted far more
than one word; you reader must be cutting off the rest. Or is it
that you just don't understand any of the big words?
> . . . but instead namecalled ("McFoulup") the person
> who dared to question Kerry's behavior. Quite similar to what Kerry himself
> did when challenged by a questioner in the audience about a week ago.
Nonsense.
> Second, apparently Arne feels that if someone has "pledged to take a bullet"
> for someone else (this would be true of all Marines, Seals, and members of
> Delta forces, in addition to the Secret Service) then one is free, as Kerry
> obviously felt he was free, to heap profanities upon that person. . . .
Well, yes they are (assuming they actually did that -- I'd note that
we _have_ the video clips of Mr. "Major League Asshole"'s comments).
That's America for you, you know. But irrelevant to my point.
> . . . I wonder
> if Arne would like to personally test that theory? Perhaps Arne would like
> to head down to the local watering hole outside of a Marine base, step
> inside, order a beer, jump up on a table and loudly proclaim to the
> assembled Marines in that barroom, "I never fall down, and you guys are a
> bunch of F'ing jerks who get in my way on the ski slopes." . . .
Now that would be rather stoopid, wouldn't it, seeing as they had
done no such thing? Which may be why it occurs to you to suggest
such a course of action. . . .
> . . . Confident in
> the fact that those Marines have all pledged to die on behalf of their
> country (including Arne, a citizen of that country), Arne could then sit
> down at a table and quietly consume his beer. Or maybe not.......
Reminds me, during the aftermath of the Diallo and Louima cases in
New York, when some caller to the Mike Gallagher show went on a tirade
calling the police pigs. Both Gallagher and a subsequent caller
suggested that the appropriate fate of this outspoken person would
be to end up in an alley alone with a couple of New York's finest.
Ahhhh, the conservative brain in action! . . . ;-)
> Third, why does Arne feel that just because Kerry's priority at that moment
> was skiing down that slope that therefore he, Kerry, is allowed to behave
> like a rich yahoo and spew profanities at the OTHER people who were on the
> slope at that time, with THEIR own priorities? .. . .
*Sheesh!* You're stoopid, aintcha? Say, perhaps you can explain
for the less nimble of mind here just what the Secret Service
agent's "own priorities" were? LOL! While you're at it, explain
how these "own priorities" rank in the grand scheme of things.
And once again, for the cognitively disadvantaged, please explain
why Kerry's priorities shouldn't include being able to stand up
without being bowled over by a Secret Service agent. Strangely
enough, that would be one of _my_ priorities while on the slopes,
and if some azo out-of-control boarder clips me, I'll probably
tell them what I think of their etiquette. Basic rules of the
slopes, you know.
> . . . Arne failed to explain
> that.
Yup. Gotta admit that this didn't occur to me. Can't imagine
why. . . .
Damn, you're one clueless berk. . . .
Cheers,
-- Arne Langsetmo
Arne Langsetmo
> "David Hartung" <dhar...@quixnet.net> wrote in message
> news:%UW6c.39274$8G2....@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
>
>>"Arne Langsetmo" <zu...@bangspam.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>>news:7bR6c.49016$aT1....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>
>>
>>>But FWIW, these are guys that have pledged to take a bullet
>>>for their charges. Do you think they can handle an
>>>(alleged) cross word? Exactly who was the "injured
>>>party" here in your opinion, McFoulup, and what are
>>>_your_ priorities and values here?
>
> Gosh, Arne, you're still such a ranting crank.
>
> An most unfortunate case, indeed.
Wow! I'm wounded, _wounded_, I tell ya! Gosh,
that zinged me good. How will I ever show my face
again?
> I think that most Americans have enough class to
> know that you don't haughtily call the guy pledged
> to lay down his life for you a "son of a bitch" because
> he bumped you on the ski slope while trying to
> protect you.
Non-responsive to my point. And you're assuming the
facts are as you presented them. Not clear. Given
the unfortunate demise of Sonny Bono, perhaps you can
explain how the Secret Service agent was trying to
"protect" Kerry. . . .
> Anyway...
[snip more non-responsive blather]
Cheers,
-- Arne Langsetmo
Arne Langsetmo
> "Spamuel T. Rap" <hormelca...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:f0db19c8.04032...@posting.google.com...
>
>>Martin McPhillips wrote:
>>
>>>[...]
>>>I think that most Americans have enough class to
>>>know that you don't haughtily call the guy pledged
>>>to lay down his life for you a "son of a bitch" because
>>>he bumped you on the ski slope while trying to
>>>protect you.
>>
>>Another "conservative" ideologue who wouldn't know a joke
>>if it poked him in the heiny.
>>
>> "I *never* fall down."
>>
>>Only a literalist without the capacity for nuanced thought
>>would take that as anything but a self-deprecating joke.
>
>
> My information on this came from the New York
> Times. And the Times doesn't describe a "self-deprecating
> joke." It describes an asshole in an unguarded moment:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/19/politics/campaign/19KERR.html
David Halbfinger. Go search him at:
Cheers,
-- Arne Langsetmo
Arne Langsetmo
impossible to satirize) wrote:
Are you claiming that this is a picture of Kerry falling down???
Cheers,
-- Arne Langsetmo
Arne Langsetmo
Ummm, and IC that "gentlemen" use the "effin" word a lot too, yes?
Good thing for you, though, that the liberals managed to get
literacy tests outlawed, or we wouldn't have to give a damn
about the way _you_ vote. . . .
Cheers,
-- Arne Langsetmo
Arne Langsetmo
> Bugman wrote:
>
>>"Riley The Dog" <wo...@wag.com> wrote in message
>>news:c0N6c.8030$n37.8...@read2.cgocable.net...
>
>>>You're right. If he laughed it off he would have shown himself to be a
>>>pretty cool guy.
>>>He seems to have some serious issues. What an insecure arrogant ass.
>>>
>>Maybe he was laughing about it. "It wasn't me, it was the other guy. Ha-Ha"
>
> It doesn't really matter unless you can get some people who were there
> to testify that the initial reports are wrong. If Kerry wants to win, he
> needs to start now changing his imagine from the rich boy asshole to a
> regular guy. I would definitely lose the snow board and use regular
> skis. Yes snow boards are hip, but given Kerry's look, the lack of poles
> makes him look even more like a show off, an asshole.
Yeah, it's disgraceful to show Kerry carving a nice turn
with a "Look ma, no hands!" insouciance (hell, all the other
boarders use those poles because it's just too damn hard),
when we have that dignified Dubya falling off a Segway
in a perfectly Presidential fashion. . . . Keep up
the good work, Bill!
>>You guys are taking it like he said "Go fuck your mama"
>
> Everything is perception. "I don't fall down!" suggests attitude, bad
> attitude. The snow board, the sunglasses, . . .
LOL!!!! I'd _love_ to see your fat ass on the slopes,
you clueless berk. You'd be black-and-blue (if not in a
hospital with two broken wrists or worse) in a millisecond,
based on your apparent ignorance here. Think sunglasses
are for show?
> . . . the lack of poles, . . .
LOL!!! What a clueless berk you are, Bonde.
> . . . the
> expletive when it was just a minor bump, . . .
Tell you what: You hike up to a double-D and go down on a board.
Then you can tell me about "minor bump[s]". I'll look for
the hospital postmark. . . .
> . . . who cares, suggests something.
> It all matters. Nixon lost a debate for want of using make up. Gore lost
> a debate for using too much. Kerry's lucky this happened now, although I
> think we can bring it back up. . . .
I'm sure you losers will. The Segway. . . . <*chuckle*> Yeah,
do keep it up. . . .
> . . . It will all depend on how he acts from
> now on. Will he reinforce the "Kerry is a rich boy asshole" look and
> feel or will he try to be your average joe?
I'd love to see this picture in some Generation X magazines. And
the Segway stills, for contrast. I think the kids will know
who's the "average joe". . . .
Cheers,
-- Arne Langsetmo
Arne Langsetmo
overshoot its mark. ) wrote:
>
> Riley The Dog wrote:
>
>
>>>But: "I don't fall. That blankety-blank
>>>knocked me down"?
>>
>>You're right. If he laughed it off he would have shown himself to be a
>>pretty cool guy.
>>He seems to have some serious issues. What an insecure arrogant ass.
>>
>
> Look at this picture and caption it with just what Kerry said:
> http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040318/capt.efa10203182031.topix_democrats_kerry_efa102.jpg
Hey, thanks for reposting the picture. Does double duty, Bill.
Shows that Kerry's cool, and that you're a clueless berk. You
ought to get your fat butt off the couch more often. . . .
Cheers,
-- Arne Langsetmo
Arne Langsetmo
> "Dana" <#> wrote in message
> news:3f9ae411486d7137...@news.meganetnews.com...
>
>>"Arne Langsetmo" <zu...@bangspam.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>>news:a0R6c.49006$aT1....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>
>>>SikOfLibs wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Sometime during this episode, he supposedly tumbled 6 times on the way
>>>>down the slope all on his own, after he said "I don't fall down". .
>>>>http://www.drudgereport.com/kerryid2.htm
>>>
>>>You misspelled "allegedly".
>>
>>Better check your reading skills. The word "allegedly" was not used.
>
> Wow! Whooosh again!
I'm used to "ButtMaster" Dana's cluelessness. Happens all the time.
Cheers,
-- Arne Langsetmo
SemiScholar
You mean like George W "Major League Asshole" Bush? The guy who
stormed up to Al Hunt as he sat in a restaurant with his wife and
4-year-old son and shouted, "You fucking son of a bitch, I saw what
you wrote. We’re not going to forget this." [Washington Post, July 25,
1999] Like that? Like when Bush made fun of someone on death row
who was begging for her life as she was about to be executed? Like
that?
"Yeah, big time."
SemiScholar
wrote:
>
>"SemiScholar" <noe...@spambegone.com> wrote in message
>news:t5on5095qv5i0kei7...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 00:09:21 -0500, "Riley The Dog" <wo...@wag.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"SemiScholar" <noe...@spambegone.com> wrote in message
>> >news:q1in501hofudsatlc...@4ax.com...
>> >> On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 20:22:20 -0500, "Riley The Dog" <wo...@wag.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"Martin McPhillips" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:FhK6c.148$1C1.6...@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> >> >> "Bill Bonde ( Straight invective is not satire; satire must
>> >> >> deliberately overshoot its mark. )" <std...@backpacker.com> wrote
>in
>> >> >> message news:405B63E6...@backpacker.com...
>> >> >> >
>> >>
>> >> >> I think that I say: "Don't worry about
>> >> >> it. You're doing your job. I appreciate
>> >> >> it."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And to onlookers: "Got tangled up with
>> >> >> my guardian angels up there and went down.
>> >> >> We need more practice at this."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> But: "I don't fall. That blankety-blank
>> >> >> knocked me down"?
>> >> >
>> >> >You're right. If he laughed it off he would have shown himself to be a
>> >> >pretty cool guy.
>> >> >He seems to have some serious issues. What an insecure arrogant ass.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> You people can't be serious. He WAS laughing it off. Jeeze - this
>> >> thing is just comical as hell. Kerry joked about falling down saying
>> >> "that son-of-a-bitch tripped me". That's a good-natured jibe, and
>> >> clearly meant as a joke. But you wackos want so desperately to claim
>> >> it was something else.
>> >>
>> >> Unbelievable.
>> >
>> >I hear what your saying.
>> >I'm sure it could be a matter
>> >of interpetation.
>> >
>> >After all The New York Times can be
>> >a little un-reliable.
>>
>>
>> What did the New York Times say about the incident?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3ep5v
The URL didn't work - but if it referred to the NYT article that I
read, I don't see anything in that article that particularly
embarrasses Kerry. It's merely the bloviating of right-wingers trying
desperately to find something - ANYthing - to hurt Kerry with. They
know that it looks bad for Bush, and they're getting desperate
already.
SemiScholar
<zu...@bangspam.ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>Bill Bonde ( Straight invective is not satire; satire must deliberately
>overshoot its mark. ) wrote:
>
>> Bugman wrote:
>>
>>>"Riley The Dog" <wo...@wag.com> wrote in message
>>>news:c0N6c.8030$n37.8...@read2.cgocable.net...
>>
>>>>You're right. If he laughed it off he would have shown himself to be a
>>>>pretty cool guy.
>>>>He seems to have some serious issues. What an insecure arrogant ass.
>>>>
>>>Maybe he was laughing about it. "It wasn't me, it was the other guy. Ha-Ha"
>>
>> It doesn't really matter unless you can get some people who were there
>> to testify that the initial reports are wrong. If Kerry wants to win, he
>> needs to start now changing his imagine from the rich boy asshole to a
>> regular guy. I would definitely lose the snow board and use regular
>> skis. Yes snow boards are hip, but given Kerry's look, the lack of poles
>> makes him look even more like a show off, an asshole.
>
>Yeah, it's disgraceful to show Kerry carving a nice turn
>with a "Look ma, no hands!" insouciance (hell, all the other
>boarders use those poles because it's just too damn hard),
Gawd! This is rich... Bonde thinks snowboarders use poles? Wow...
no wonder i have that idiot killfiled... LOL!