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Too_Many_Tools

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Jun 17, 2009, 2:55:24 AM6/17/09
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At least it was with a woman this time....well maybe...you know how
wingers lie.

I know that disappoints all you wingers who still fantasize about
Larry Craig.

TMT

Nevada GOP Sen. Ensign admits extramarital affair
By KEVIN FREKING and KATHLEEN HENNESSEY, Associated Press Writers
Kevin Freking And Kathleen Hennessey, Associated Press Writers 1 hr 16
mins ago

LAS VEGAS – Sen. John Ensign of Nevada, a conservative Republican with
evident presidential ambitions, abruptly announced Tuesday he carried
on an extramarital affair for much of last year with a woman on his
campaign staff, a confession that jarred his scandal-weary state as
well as his party.

"It is the worst thing I have ever done in my life," Ensign said in a
brief appearance before reporters. He provided few details other than
to say he does not intend to resign from Congress, and he did not
disclose what prompted his decision to declare his infidelity. "If
there was ever anything in my life that I could take back, this would
be it," he added.

Ensign, 51, belongs to the men's group Promise Keepers, a Christian
ministry. A member of the Senate Republican leadership, he was
chairman of the party's campaign committee leading up to the 2008
elections in which Republicans lost eight seats to Democrats.

His announcement drew no public reaction from Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-
Ky., the party's leader in the Senate, or other members of the
leadership.

Ensign's spokesman, Tory Mazzola, said the affair took place between
December 2007 and August 2008 with a campaign staffer who was married
to an employee in Ensign's Senate office.

The woman worked at Ensign for Senate and Ensign's Battle Born
Political Action Committee from December 2006 to May 2008. She also
was married to a staff member in Ensign's Senate office. Neither has
worked for the senator since May 2008, Mazzola said.

Ensign told reporters he would not disclose the name of the campaign
aide involved in the affair. He described the woman and her husband as
good friends.

"Our families were close," Ensign said. "That closeness put me into
situations which led to my inappropriate behavior. We caused deep pain
to both families and for that I am sorry."

Ensign's wife, Darlene, did not appear with her husband Tuesday, but
she also released a statement about the affair.

"Since we found out last year we have worked through the situation and
we have come to a reconciliation," she said. "This has been difficult
on both families. With the help of our family and close friends our
marriage has become stronger."

The Ensigns have three children.

The senator skipped the day's Senate session, missing a vote on
legislation relating to the travel industry, an important part of his
state's economy. He was not expected to return to the Capitol until at
least Thursday.

In 2002, Ensign missed several public appearances and dropped all
official business for about two weeks to deal with what his aides then
described as a family matter. A person familiar with that episode,
speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the
matter, said Tuesday the absence followed an earlier affair.

Ensign was elected to the House in the Republican landslide of 1994
and won his Senate seat in 2000 after losing in his first try to Sen.
Harry Reid, then a rank-and-file senator, now the majority leader.

At home, Ensign's admission comes on top of a string of disclosures
and allegations about Republican Gov. Jim Gibbons. Since his election
in 2006, Gibbons has been accused of sexual assault, sending love
notes on a state phone and improperly firing a state employee. In
recent court documents related to divorce proceedings, his wife, Dawn,
accused him of a history of infidelity.

Nevada GOP chairwoman Sue Lowden, however, said Ensign's admission
"has no impact on the party or our plans for 2010. It's a personal
matter for the Ensign family and that's it."

Within the Senate, Ensign's admission of an affair placed him in a
lengthening line of Republicans to grapple with such issues. Sen.
Larry Craig, R-Idaho, retired at the end of his term last year,
several months after pleading guilty in connection with charges
resulting from an airport bathroom sex sting operation.

Last summer, Sen. David Vitter, R-La., apologized for a "very serious
sin in my past" after it was disclosed that his Washington phone
number was among those called several years ago by a Washington-area
escort service that prosecutors have said was a front for
prostitution.

Ensign was first elected to the Senate in 2000 and quickly rose
through the GOP ranks. He chaired the GOP's Senate campaign operation
in 2007 and 2008, and last year was named chairman of the Republican
Policy Committee, the No. 4 position in the party's Senate leadership.
The committee coordinates the GOP's legislative efforts in the Senate.

Last month, Ensign traveled to Iowa for a speech organized by a
conservative advocacy group, sparking speculation that he had an
interest in possibly running for president. Aides said the visit was
about staking out a leadership position within the GOP.

Ensign has been a rising star among conservatives, speaking out
against President Barack Obama's stimulus package, statehood for the
District of Columbia and union-organizing legislation and in favor of
gun owners' rights.

He had been highly critical of Craig, who served in Congress for a
quarter-century when he was arrested in an airport bathroom sex sting.
Ensign stopped short of urging him to resign but suggested strongly
that he should.

"I wouldn't put myself hopefully in that kind of position, but if I
was in a position like that, that's what I would do," Ensign said.
"He's going to have to answer that for himself." In the end, Craig
served out his term.

Over the years, Ensign and Reid have worked closely on issues
affecting Nevada and have an agreement not to criticize the other
publicly.

"Sen. Reid's thoughts are with Sen. Ensign and his family at this
time," said Reid spokesman Jon Summers.

Republicans lost eight seats last November under Ensign's campaign
leadership, with one race, in Minnesota, still undecided. The losses
put Democrats within one seat of having a 60-40 majority, enough to
prevent the GOP from blocking bills and appointments if all of them
vote together.

Ensign is a veterinarian and adopted son of a Nevada casino mogul.

___

Freking reported from Washington. Associated Press writer Brendan
Riley in Carson City, Nev., contributed to this report.

Alim Nassor

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Jun 17, 2009, 5:09:42 AM6/17/09
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Even Promise Keepers members are subject to human weakness. It's
little different trying to keep your moral compass straight and
failing, than never trying at all and being a serial philanderer like
Mr. Clinton.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Jun 17, 2009, 7:10:23 AM6/17/09
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In talk.politics.guns Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>At least it was with a woman this time....well maybe...you know how
>wingers lie.

Kinda like you did, when you said you'd show up at his house and then
when he gave you the address, you chickened out.

Like that, you mean?

[chuckle]

http://www.klausschadenfreude.110mb.com/dontgetu.wav

W Spilman

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Jun 17, 2009, 10:46:48 AM6/17/09
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"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> In talk.politics.guns Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>At least it was with a woman this time....well maybe...you know how
>>wingers lie.
>
> Kinda like you did, when you said you'd show up at his house and then
> when he gave you the address, you chickened out.
>
> Like that, you mean?

I've given my address to dozens of you loud-mouthed
right-wing pricks over the years. Not one of you has had
the guts to come get your fucking brains blown out yet.
Maybe its not a good idea to go to someone's house who
can and will kill you.
WS


Arizona Bushwhacker

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Jun 17, 2009, 10:56:40 AM6/17/09
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"Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Even Promise Keepers members are subject to human weakness. It's
> little different trying to keep your moral compass straight and
> failing, than never trying at all and being a serial philanderer like
> Mr. Clinton.


Let me guess....
You're one of those republicans who flips out every
time some democrat reminds you of the Bush
administration. "There you go again... but, but, but,
what about Bush. Bush isn't president any more.
It's all Obama's fault now." That sounds like you I bet.

Curly Surmudgeon

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Jun 17, 2009, 12:16:10 PM6/17/09
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Don't move the goal post by making excuses.

Promise Keepers aren't just "subject to human weakness" but base their
lives on an oath of fidelity. Failure is a much more severe issue than
among a paired couple who agree upon an open marriage.

In one case it is extreme hypocrisy, the other between the partners.

--
Regards, Curly
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Too_Many_Tools

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Jun 17, 2009, 1:29:29 PM6/17/09
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And the winger crash continues...

As to why he confessed now...he was going to be outed.

TMT

Ensign quits Senate GOP leadership post
By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent David Espo, Ap Special
Correspondent

WASHINGTON – Republican Sen. John Ensign of Nevada has stepped down
from his leadership post one day after admitting he carried on a
marital affair with a woman who was on his campaign staff.

Ensign conveyed his decision in a phone call with Senate Republican
Leader Mitch McConnell, who said he had accepted the resignation.

Ensign was chairman of the Republican Policy Committee, the fourth-
ranking spot in the leadership.

He remained away from the Capitol during the day, and aides declined
to answer additional questions about the affair.

A timeline issued Tuesday said Ensign was involved in a "consensual
affair" from December, 2007 through August, 2008. There has been no
indication of why the senator decided to announce his infidelity when
he did.

Too_Many_Tools

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Jun 17, 2009, 1:30:34 PM6/17/09
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Especially Promise Keepers.

How do you know that this was his first time?

TMT

Jeff Mc

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Jun 17, 2009, 1:31:57 PM6/17/09
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Curly Surmudgeon wrote:

> Don't move the goal post by making excuses.
>
> Promise Keepers aren't just "subject to human weakness" but base their
> lives on an oath of fidelity. Failure is a much more severe issue than
> among a paired couple who agree upon an open marriage.
>
> In one case it is extreme hypocrisy, the other between the partners.

People make mistakes and are prone to failures of various kinds. It's
part of being human. Setting the bar higher means you will have more
trouble reaching it. Setting the bar lower is one way to make it easier
on yourself, but some people don't choose the easy way. They choose to
strive for something better, even if it increases the odds they won't
make it all the way there. But they still think it's worth reaching
for. I'm not inclined to fault them for that.

Too_Many_Tools

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Jun 17, 2009, 1:32:06 PM6/17/09
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On Jun 17, 6:10 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> In talk.politics.guns Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >At least it was with a woman this time....well maybe...you know how
> >wingers lie.
>
> Kinda like you did, when you said you'd show up at his house and then
> when he gave you the address, you chickened out.
>
> Like that, you mean?
>
> [chuckle]
>
> http://www.klausschadenfreude.110mb.com/dontgetu.wav

I am still waiting for valid addresses and license plates.

Still haven't gotten them.

What's the holdup?

TMT

Tim Miller

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Jun 17, 2009, 1:33:48 PM6/17/09
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Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> On Jun 17, 6:10 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> In talk.politics.guns Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> At least it was with a woman this time....well maybe...you know how
>>> wingers lie.
>> Kinda like you did, when you said you'd show up at his house and then
>> when he gave you the address, you chickened out.
>>
>> Like that, you mean?
>>
>> [chuckle]
>>
>> http://www.klausschadenfreude.110mb.com/dontgetu.wav
>
> I am still waiting for valid addresses

You GOT it. At LEAST a dozen times.

>
> What's the holdup?
>

Apparently, your cowardice, loser.

Curly Surmudgeon

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Jun 17, 2009, 1:58:41 PM6/17/09
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Good argument. I think both positions, yours and mine, are valid.

Hypocrisy pisses me off almost as much as liars. Sometimes that blinds
us to other possibilities. 'nuff said.

hal

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Jun 17, 2009, 3:58:42 PM6/17/09
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On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:31:57 -0500, Jeff Mc <NoS...@NoThanks.org>
wrote:

Marital infidelity is not like contracting cancer or some other thing
over which you have no control. He made a willful choice to cheat on
his wife. After making all kinds of insincere promises to be a
"promise keeper". Don't make him sound noble, that he set the bar so
high for himself he couldn't possibly succeed. That is complete crap.
He made all these great, noble promises, then intentionally broke
them. That makes him a liar and a cheat. Nothing more.

Jeff Mc

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Jun 17, 2009, 6:00:18 PM6/17/09
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It depends on the sort of man and husband he is. Did he really intend
to love and honor his wife, and be faithful to her for the rest of his
life, when he married her? Did he always resist temptation before, and
does he sincerely feel shame and remorse now, and for what he did, not
just for being caught? Or is he a serial philanderer who cheats at
every opportunity and regards his wife and marriage with contempt? Is
this episode out of character and contrary to a generally praiseworthy
life, or is it emblematic of the man's true character?

Clearly, he had free will, and freely chose to be an adulterer, liar,
etc. He did it, along with all the lies and other wrongs that usually
are part of an affair, and I agree that he has to take responsibility
for it and pay the appropriate price. But people make regrettable
choices every day. People do foolish, hurtful, irresponsible, sinful,
mean, selfish, petty and impulsive things daily, too. For some, that's
just the way they are. But for others, such acts are aberrations, and
don't reflect their typical behavior.

People are complex, and life is complicated and difficult. It's easy to
criticize others and condemn for the bad things they do. But judgment,
like justice, should be tempered with mercy, and illuminated by
understanding.

This particular guy may just be another lowlife, cheating scumbag who
cheats on his wife, his taxes, his friends and his constituents, too.
Or he may have been a decent fellow who made one big, public and
humiliating mistake. You say he's "a liar and a cheat, nothing more,"
based, apparently, on his adultery. I don't know whether there's more
to the man than that, or not. But, consider this: would you like to be
summarily judged on what kind of person you are, based solely on the one
worst thing you ever did?

Lookout

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Jun 17, 2009, 7:00:54 PM6/17/09
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Uh...maybe they just don't care about you?
After all..you are an idiot.

Too_Many_Tools

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Jun 17, 2009, 8:05:39 PM6/17/09
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Yes.

And your attempt to divert the discussion is noted.

Ensign chose to also play the role of "Promise Keeper" as a cover for
his actions.

I say that he is a liar and a cheat because of his actions.

When you set the standard of your behavior, in my world you better
damn well meet.

TMT

sid9

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Jun 17, 2009, 8:07:33 PM6/17/09
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"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote
in message
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He's a liar, a cheat, and a hypocrite.


Klaus Schadenfreude

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Jun 17, 2009, 8:41:50 PM6/17/09
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In talk.politics.guns "W Spilman" <w...@knows.com> wrote:

>
>"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:jejh35pgg35mdtutf...@4ax.com...
>> In talk.politics.guns Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>At least it was with a woman this time....well maybe...you know how
>>>wingers lie.
>>
>> Kinda like you did, when you said you'd show up at his house and then
>> when he gave you the address, you chickened out.
>>
>> Like that, you mean?
>
>I've given my address to dozens of you loud-mouthed
>right-wing pricks over the years. Not one of you has had
>the guts to come get your fucking brains blown out yet.

Aww, you THAT lonely?

>Maybe its not a good idea to go to someone's house who
>can and will kill you.

Wow. you're a real deep thinker, aren't ya?

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Jun 17, 2009, 8:43:07 PM6/17/09
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In talk.politics.guns Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:

You're a liar. You have a valid address, and don't need license
plates. I've already directed you to the Post Office site where you
can verify the address. Or, if you have more than two brain cells to
rub together, you could verify it yourself.

But here is the plate information anyway....

http://klausschadenfreude.110mb.com/sunnyside.htm

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Jun 17, 2009, 8:43:49 PM6/17/09
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In talk.politics.guns Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>And the winger crash continues...

Did you crash on the way to Sunnyside?

___________
"I will be bringing the local cops with me to visit you so be sure you
have enough doughnuts for all of us. ;<)"
-Too Many Tools, 5/30/09

"Try posting your real address just once and I will
guarantee you a visit."
-Too Many Tools, 6/2/09, right before
he scrambled for excuses not to show up.

hal

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On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:05:39 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
<too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:


>Ensign chose to also play the role of "Promise Keeper" as a cover for
>his actions.
>
>I say that he is a liar and a cheat because of his actions.
>
>When you set the standard of your behavior, in my world you better
>damn well meet.

the thing that really gets me about right wing religious authoritarian
types is that they love to define standards and make demands on the
behavior of others, but they feel the rules don't apply to them.

>
>TMT

Tim Miller

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Jun 17, 2009, 8:53:21 PM6/17/09
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Kinda like that coward "Too_Many_Tools".

Jeff Mc

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Jun 17, 2009, 10:21:13 PM6/17/09
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Disagreement is not diversion.

> Ensign chose to also play the role of "Promise Keeper" as a cover for
> his actions.
>
> I say that he is a liar and a cheat because of his actions.
>
> When you set the standard of your behavior, in my world you better
> damn well meet.

Well, he screwed up on the whole fidelity thing. If this was truly just
a moral lapse, he still has the opportunity to do the same "right thing"
he has urged others to do in similar circumstances - resign from public
office.

Too_Many_Tools

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On Jun 17, 7:51 pm, hal wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:05:39 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
>
> <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Ensign chose to also play the role of "Promise Keeper" as a cover for
> >his actions.
>
> >I say that he is a liar and a cheat because of his actions.
>
> >When you set the standard of your behavior, in my world you better
> >damn well meet.
>
> the thing that really gets me about right wing religious authoritarian
> types is that they love to define standards and make demands on the
> behavior of others, but they feel the rules don't apply to them.
>
>
>
> >TMT

Same here...great way to tick me off big time.

All mouth...no walk...the baseline definition of a Right Wing
Religious Authoritarian Type (RWRAT).

TMT

Tim Miller

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Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> On Jun 17, 7:51 pm, hal wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:05:39 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
>>
>> <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Ensign chose to also play the role of "Promise Keeper" as a cover for
>>> his actions.
>>> I say that he is a liar and a cheat because of his actions.
>>> When you set the standard of your behavior, in my world you better
>>> damn well meet.
>> the thing that really gets me about right wing religious authoritarian
>> types is that they love to define standards and make demands on the
>> behavior of others, but they feel the rules don't apply to them.
>>
>>
>>
>>> TMT
>
> Same here...great way to tick me off big time.
>
> All mouth...no walk..

Why, that's JUST like YOU, coward!

ROFLMAO@U!!

W Spilman

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"Lookout" <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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No shit, why would anybody bother?
WS


W Spilman

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"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Not to the exclusion of basic truths.
WS


Curly Surmudgeon

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Jun 18, 2009, 12:52:59 AM6/18/09
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Oh, they claim to but they're "not perfect" and are "saved" by
humiliating themselves in group mental masturbation. In fact they just
love to wallow in piety so they can return to their life of sin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_evangelist_scandals

brushoff

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Jun 18, 2009, 2:06:21 AM6/18/09
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On Jun 16, 10:55 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> At least it was with a woman this time....well maybe...you know how
> wingers lie.
>

Dick ruled over Bush..........and next is the impeach.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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In talk.politics.guns Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Jun 17, 7:51�pm, hal wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:05:39 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
>>
>> <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >Ensign chose to also play the role of "Promise Keeper" as a cover for
>> >his actions.
>>
>> >I say that he is a liar and a cheat because of his actions.
>>
>> >When you set the standard of your behavior, in my world you better
>> >damn well meet.
>>
>> the thing that really gets me about right wing religious authoritarian
>> types is that they love to define standards and make demands on the
>> behavior of others, but they feel the rules don't apply to them.
>>
>>
>>
>> >TMT
>
>Same here...great way to tick me off big time.
>
>All mouth...no walk...

Kinda like yourself- did you become a Republican?

__________
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Walking from Iowa to Sunnyside Terrace should take about 40 eight-hour
days. Where is Too Many Tools today? He began his trip May 20...

Klaus Schadenfreude

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In talk.politics.guns "W Spilman" <w...@knows.com> wrote:

>
>"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:593j355ce8q4g7cub...@4ax.com...
>> In talk.politics.guns "W Spilman" <w...@knows.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:jejh35pgg35mdtutf...@4ax.com...
>>>> In talk.politics.guns Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>At least it was with a woman this time....well maybe...you know how
>>>>>wingers lie.
>>>>
>>>> Kinda like you did, when you said you'd show up at his house and then
>>>> when he gave you the address, you chickened out.
>>>>
>>>> Like that, you mean?
>>>
>>>I've given my address to dozens of you loud-mouthed
>>>right-wing pricks over the years. Not one of you has had
>>>the guts to come get your fucking brains blown out yet.
>>
>> Aww, you THAT lonely?
>
>

> [crickets.wav]


>
>
>
>
>>>Maybe its not a good idea to go to someone's house who
>>>can and will kill you.
>>
>> Wow. you're a real deep thinker, aren't ya?
>
>Not to the exclusion of basic truths.

The basic truth here is that Too Many Tools is a coward. He's still
insinuating he's willing to go but he's claiming the address isn't
"valid." That's just cowardice.

hal

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Jun 18, 2009, 8:29:25 AM6/18/09
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On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:52:59 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:51:38 -0600, hal wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:05:39 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
>> <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Ensign chose to also play the role of "Promise Keeper" as a cover for
>>>his actions.
>>>
>>>I say that he is a liar and a cheat because of his actions.
>>>
>>>When you set the standard of your behavior, in my world you better damn
>>>well meet.
>>
>> the thing that really gets me about right wing religious authoritarian
>> types is that they love to define standards and make demands on the
>> behavior of others, but they feel the rules don't apply to them.
>
>Oh, they claim to but they're "not perfect" and are "saved" by
>humiliating themselves in group mental masturbation. In fact they just
>love to wallow in piety so they can return to their life of sin.
>

yea, and their apologists, like Jeff, who claims he only erred because
he set the bar so high for himself. What a joke.

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_evangelist_scandals

Too_Many_Tools

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wrote:

> In talk.politics.guns "W Spilman" <w...@knows.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> >news:593j355ce8q4g7cub...@4ax.com...
> >> In talk.politics.guns "W Spilman" <w...@knows.com> wrote:
>
> >>>"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:jejh35pgg35mdtutf...@4ax.com...

> >>>> In talk.politics.guns Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>At least it was with a woman this time....well maybe...you know how
> >>>>>wingers lie.
>
> >>>> Kinda like you did, when you said you'd show up at his house and then
> >>>> when he gave you the address, you chickened out.
>
> >>>> Like that, you mean?
>
> >>>I've given my address to dozens of you loud-mouthed
> >>>right-wing pricks over the years. Not one of you has had
> >>>the guts to come get your fucking brains blown out yet.
>
> >> Aww, you THAT lonely?
>
> >        [crickets.wav]
>
> >>>Maybe its not a good idea to go to someone's house who
> >>>can and will kill you.
>
> >> Wow. you're a real deep thinker, aren't ya?
>
> >Not to the exclusion of basic truths.
>
> The basic truth here is that Too Many Tools is a coward. He's still
> insinuating he's willing to go but he's claiming the address isn't
> "valid." That's just cowardice.

LOL...if true then you won't mind providing another one.

Where is your nearest police department located at?

And their phone number?

We all look forward to you posting it.

TMT

Tim Miller

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Too fucking stupid to use the white pages, coward?

Klaus Schadenfreude

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In talk.politics.guns Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:

LOL providing another one... what? For what purpose? So you could
pretend it wasn't "valid?" Or do you have ANOTHER excuse you want to
try out?

>Where is your nearest police department located at?
>And their phone number?
>We all look forward to you posting it.

The information will be posted on the front door at Sunnyside for you
to pick up, coward.

[chuckle]

No Bammer

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Too_Many_Tools wrote:

I understand TMT now. When he sucks a dick he wants it to be a big one.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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In talk.politics.guns No Bammer <noba...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>
>I understand TMT now. When he sucks a dick he wants it to be a big one.

One *does* wonder where his preoccupation with penises and penis size
comes from. Apparently it holds great importance for him. It may
explain the posters of Priapos in his room.

Gray Ghost

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Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote in
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> On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:09:42 -0700, Alim Nassor wrote:


>
>> On Jun 17, 2:55 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> At least it was with a woman this time....well maybe...you know how
>>> wingers lie.
>>>

>> Even Promise Keepers members are subject to human weakness. It's
>> little different trying to keep your moral compass straight and failing,
>> than never trying at all and being a serial philanderer like Mr.
>> Clinton.


>
> Don't move the goal post by making excuses.
>
> Promise Keepers aren't just "subject to human weakness" but base their
> lives on an oath of fidelity. Failure is a much more severe issue than
> among a paired couple who agree upon an open marriage.
>
> In one case it is extreme hypocrisy, the other between the partners.
>

Yas mean like of someone agrees in front of God and the world to forsake all
others and then whores around like he's single? Why take the vow in the first
place?

So you're saying that Republicans should be held to a higher standard becuase
Democrats are naturally immoral but it's OK because they all agree it's OK?

--
Always remember:

Bull Connor was a Democrat!

Curly Surmudgeon

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Note that the preponderance of public torturists are also "Men of God.
How someone who worships the "Man of Peace" or counts themselves among
the "Religion of Peace" can openly (hypocritically) demand torture is
beyond my comprehension.

>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_evangelist_scandals

A few more "Men of God" examples:

Violent crimes

* Shoko Asahara - Founder of Aum Shinrikyo sentenced to death by
hanging under Japanese law for involvement in Sarin gas attack on the
Tokyo subway.[1]
* Matthew F. Hale - Former leader of Creativity Movement sentenced to
a 40-year prison term for soliciting an undercover FBI informant to kill
federal judge Joan Lefkow.[2]
* Warren Jeffs - Once President of Fundamentalist Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter Day Saints, convicted of rape as an accomplice.[3]
* Luc Jouret - A founder of the Order of the Solar Temple. He was
convicted of conspiring to buy illegal handguns.[4]
* Jung Myung Seok - Founder of Providence. Convicted for raping
several of his followers.[5]
* William Kamm - Self styled Pope Peter II who was sentenced to
prison in October 2005 for a string of sexual attacks on a 15-year-old
girl. In August 2007 his sentence was increased after being found guilty
for a series of sexual abuses against another teenage girl over a 5 year
period.[6]
* Ervil LeBaron - Led a small sect of Polygamous Mormon
fundamentalists, and was convicted of involvement in the murder of 2
people and plotting to kill another person.[7]
* Alice Lenshina - Head and founder of the Lumpa Church. Conflicts
with the government over their rejection of taxes led to a violent
confrontation and her subsequent imprisonment.[8]
* Jeffrey Lundgren - Headed splinter group from Reorganized Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, executed October 24, 2006, for
multiple murders.[9]
* Charles Manson - Leader of the Manson Family who is serving life
for first degree murder.[10]
* Shukri Mustafa - Leader of Takfir wal-Hijra who was captured and
executed for the kidnap murder of an Egyptian ex-government minister.[11]
* Fred Phelps - Leader of Westboro Baptist Church, convicted for
disorderly conduct and battery.[12][13]
* Howard Douglas Porter - Pastor at Hickman Community Church,
convicted of first-degree murder, embezzlement, elder abuse and attempted
murder.[14]
* Swami Premananda of Tiruchirapalli - Convicted and sentenced to
double life imprisonment for rape of 13 girls and murder.[15]
* Jacques Robidoux - Leader of defunct group The Body of Christ who
is serving time for first degree murder after starving his son,
apparently thinking it was God's will.[16]
* Paul Schäfer - Former head of Colonia Dignidad, was convicted of
sexually abusing 25 children.[17]
* Roch Thériault - Former head of "Ant Hill Kids commune" serving a
life sentence in Canada for the murder of Solange Boislard.[18]
* Yahweh Ben Yahweh - Head of Nation of Yahweh, convicted for Federal
racketeering charges and conspiracy involving 14 murders.[19]
* Dwight York - Head of Nuwaubianism, convicted of multiple RICO,
child molestation, and financial reporting charges and sentenced to 135
years in prison.[20]

[edit] Non-violent crimes

* Tony Alamo - Headed a Santa Clarita commune. Convicted of tax
evasion and until recently he resided in a halfway house in Texarkana.[21]
* Jim Bakker - Created the PTL organization. Convicted of fraud and
conspiracy charges after illegally soliciting millions of dollars from
his followers.[22]
* Hogen Fukunaga - Founder of Ho No Hana who was given a twelve year
jail sentence for fraudulently gaining 150 million yen from his followers.
[23]
* Kent Hovind (Dr. Dino) - founder of the Creation Science Evangelism
ministry. Willful failure to collect, account for, and pay over Federal
income taxes, knowingly structuring transactions in Federally-insured
financial institutions to evade the reporting requirements, and
obstructing and impeding the administration of the internal revenue laws.
[24][25]
* Mary Sue Hubbard - Headed Scientology's Guardian's Office.
Convicted in 1979 of conspiracy against the United States Government.[26]
(See Operation Snow White.)
* Henry Lyons - Former President of National Baptist Convention, USA,
Inc.. Convicted for racketeering and grand theft.[27]
* Sun Myung Moon - Leader of Unification Church, imprisoned for
criminal tax fraud in the 1980s.[28]
* Edward Morrissey of the Living Enrichment Center. He pled guilty of
money laundering.[29]
* Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh – later called Osho. Fined $400,000 and
given a 10-year suspended sentence following a plea bargain agreement in
which he made an Alford plea to (1) a charge of having concealed his
intent to remain permanently in the U.S. at the time he applied for his
visa extension and (2) a charge of having conspired to have followers
stay illegally in the country by having them enter into sham marriages.
[30] Deported from the United States.[31][32][33][34][35]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_convicted_religious_leaders

Curly Surmudgeon

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Stop speaking in code. If you mean Clinton then first you'd have to show
that he "agrees in front of God" then that Bill and Hillary didn't have
an open marriage and that Clinton was a member of "Promise Keepers,"
blasted others for marital infidelity or touted his monogamy.

Even if you passed those hurdles it wouldn't make Ensign any less of a
hypocrit.

> So you're saying that Republicans should be held to a higher standard
> becuase Democrats are naturally immoral but it's OK because they all
> agree it's OK?

Do not put words in my mouth. If you believe that then say so without
the inference.

Basil Karlo

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"Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9C2E7270B986EWe...@216.196.97.142...


> Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote in
> news:pan.2009.06...@live.com:
>
>> On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:09:42 -0700, Alim Nassor wrote:
>>

>>> On Jun 17, 2:55� pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> At least it was with a woman this time....well maybe...you know how
>>>> wingers lie.
>>>>
>>>> I know that disappoints all you wingers who still fantasize about Larry
>>>> Craig.
>>>>
>>>> TMT
>>>>
>>>> Nevada GOP Sen. Ensign admits extramarital affair By KEVIN FREKING and
>>>> KATHLEEN HENNESSEY, Associated Press Writers Kevin Freking And Kathleen
>>>> Hennessey, Associated Press Writers 1 hr 16 mins ago
>>>>

>>>> LAS VEGAS – Sen. John Ensign of Nevada, a conservative Republican

That's exactly what Curly Albert is saying.

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