Climategate spells end to the false 'science' of climate change
Möbius Pretzel
With the release of over 60 megabytes worth of incriminating emails,
and the world getting a glimpse into the world of fanatical pseudo-
science, there is little that can be done by the professors who are
now on intellectual trial. Whether the emails were leaked or hacked,
the people responsible for getting the information out have helped
uncover the truth about “climate change” like no news story before it.
While there have been piles of evidence to expose the global warming
fraud in the past, a written exchange in their very own words is the
ultimate proof.
http://www.infowars.com/climategate-spells-end-to-the-false-science-of-climate-change/
CB
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Let me know when the first indictment is handed down....
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Already done in the court of informed public opinion.
Demon Buddha
> Climategate spells end to the false science of climate change
>
> With the release of over 60 megabytes worth of incriminating emails,
> and the world getting a glimpse into the world of fanatical pseudo-
> science, there is little that can be done by the professors who are
> now on intellectual trial. Whether the emails were leaked or hacked,
> the people responsible for getting the information out have helped
> While there have been piles of evidence to expose the global warming
> fraud in the past, a written exchange in their very own words is the
> ultimate proof.
>
> http://www.infowars.com/climategate-spells-end-to-the-false-science-of-climate-change/
Speaking of which, nobody I know has heard of this in US mainstream
media. I no longer have TV in the house and cannot confirm.
Has this been broached in any of the MSM?
John Galt
ISTM they're doing reporting but no analysis of the implcations.
JG
Demon Buddha
No doubt they aren't. Too "inconvenient".
John Galt
Well, right. The emails decompose into this:
1) Climate scientists manipulating data to show that historical periods
of warming were not as notable as the current period.
2) Climate scientists manipulating data to make the current warming
period appear more extreme than it really is.
3) Climate scientists co-opting the peer-review publication process to
marginalize their crtitics.
4) Climate scientists thowing away the raw data which the core data on
which they base their models is based on.
Now, all the above MAY be irrelevant to the real question of whether
warming is human-caused or not, but any politician that would commit
their nation to commit funds before the entire matter is explored ought
to be shot for treason; and anyone who thinks the above is just an
irrelevant distraction ought to be imprisoned based solely on their
danger to society.
JG
cop welfare
> Demon Buddha wrote:
> > John Galt wrote:
> >> Demon Buddha wrote:
> >>>> Climategate spells end to the false science of climate change
>
> >>>> With the release of over 60 megabytes worth of incriminating emails,
> >>>> and the world getting a glimpse into the world of fanatical pseudo-
> >>>> science, there is little that can be done by the professors who are
> >>>> now on intellectual trial. Whether the emails were leaked or hacked,
> >>>> the people responsible for getting the information out have helped
> >>>> While there have been piles of evidence to expose the global warming
> >>>> fraud in the past, a written exchange in their very own words is the
> >>>> ultimate proof.
>
>
> >>> Speaking of which, nobody I know has heard of this in US
> >>> mainstream media. I no longer have TV in the house and cannot confirm.
>
> >>> Has this been broached in any of the MSM?
>
> >> ISTM they're doing reporting but no analysis of the implcations.
>
> > No doubt they aren't. Too "inconvenient".
>
> Well, right. The emails decompose into this:
>
> 1) Climate scientists manipulating data to show that historical periods
> of warming were not as notable as the current period.
>
> 2) Climate scientists manipulating data to make the current warming
> period appear more extreme than it really is.
>
> 3) Climate scientists co-opting the peer-review publication process to
> marginalize their crtitics.
>
> 4) Climate scientists thowing away the raw data which the core data on
> which they base their models is based on.
>
> Now, all the above MAY be irrelevant to the real question of whether
> warming is human-caused or not, but any politician that would commit
> their nation to commit funds before the entire matter is explored ought
> to be shot for treason; and anyone who thinks the above is just an
> irrelevant distraction ought to be imprisoned based solely on their
> danger to society.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/James_M._Inhofe#Oil_and_Coal_Money_in_Politics
Oil and Coal Money in Politics
James M. Inhofe has accepted $311,800 in oil contributions during the
110th congress. $160,800 of those dollars were from industry PACS. In
total, Inhofe received $662,506 from oil companies between 2000 and
2008, which makes him a top recipient of oil money. In addition to
oil, Inhofe has received $152,800 in coal contributions during the
110th Congress. $94,500 of those dollars were from industry PACS. See
above for oil and energy voting record.[2]
John Galt
> On Nov 30, 9:27 pm, John Galt <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Demon Buddha wrote:
>>> John Galt wrote:
>>>> Demon Buddha wrote:
>>>>>> Climategate spells end to the false science of climate change
>>>>>> With the release of over 60 megabytes worth of incriminating emails,
>>>>>> and the world getting a glimpse into the world of fanatical pseudo-
>>>>>> science, there is little that can be done by the professors who are
>>>>>> now on intellectual trial. Whether the emails were leaked or hacked,
>>>>>> the people responsible for getting the information out have helped
What does Imhofe have to do with the behavior of the climate scientists?
Their situation has nothing to do with him.
JG
cop welfare
> cop welfare wrote:
> > On Nov 30, 9:27 pm, John Galt <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Demon Buddha wrote:
> >>> John Galt wrote:
> >>>> Demon Buddha wrote:
> >>>>>> Climategate spells end to the false science of climate change
> >>>>>> With the release of over 60 megabytes worth of incriminating emails,
> >>>>>> and the world getting a glimpse into the world of fanatical pseudo-
> >>>>>> science, there is little that can be done by the professors who are
> >>>>>> now on intellectual trial. Whether the emails were leaked or hacked,
> >>>>>> the people responsible for getting the information out have helped
> > Oil and Coal Money in Politics
> > James M. Inhofe has accepted $311,800 in oil contributions during the
> > 110th congress. $160,800 of those dollars were from industry PACS. In
> > total, Inhofe received $662,506 from oil companies between 2000 and
> > 2008, which makes him a top recipient of oil money. In addition to
> > oil, Inhofe has received $152,800 in coal contributions during the
> > 110th Congress. $94,500 of those dollars were from industry PACS. See
> > above for oil and energy voting record.[2]
>
> What does Imhofe have to do with the behavior of the climate scientists?
> Their situation has nothing to do with him.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
nothing?
are you absolutely sure?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/30/business/energy-environment/30iht-green30.html
cop welfare
> cop welfare wrote:
> > On Nov 30, 9:27 pm, John Galt <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Demon Buddha wrote:
> >>> John Galt wrote:
> >>>> Demon Buddha wrote:
> >>>>>> Climategate spells end to the false science of climate change
> >>>>>> With the release of over 60 megabytes worth of incriminating emails,
> >>>>>> and the world getting a glimpse into the world of fanatical pseudo-
> >>>>>> science, there is little that can be done by the professors who are
> >>>>>> now on intellectual trial. Whether the emails were leaked or hacked,
> >>>>>> the people responsible for getting the information out have helped
> > Oil and Coal Money in Politics
> > James M. Inhofe has accepted $311,800 in oil contributions during the
> > 110th congress. $160,800 of those dollars were from industry PACS. In
> > total, Inhofe received $662,506 from oil companies between 2000 and
> > 2008, which makes him a top recipient of oil money. In addition to
> > oil, Inhofe has received $152,800 in coal contributions during the
> > 110th Congress. $94,500 of those dollars were from industry PACS. See
> > above for oil and energy voting record.[2]
>
> What does Imhofe have to do with the behavior of the climate scientists?
> Their situation has nothing to do with him.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
and furthermore...(ho-hum...)
http://www.cleanskies.com/articles/inhofe-calls-investigation-hacked-emails
Inhofe Calls for Investigation of Hacked EmailsBy: Clean Skies News,
Published: 11/24/09 2:08pm
There's more fallout from the publication of e-mails and data stolen
from a British climate research center.
Oklahoma Senator Jim Inhofe, the Senate's most prominent climate
change skeptic, says he'll investigate how the U.S. handled climate
data and whether researchers "cooked the science."
Inhofe, the ranking Republican on the Senate Environment and Public
Works Committee, tells The Washington Times he'll ask for the probe
when Congress returns from its Thanksgiving recess.
Last week, hackers took a decade's worth of material stored on
computers the University of East Anglia in Great Britain.
They posted some of it on the web, including conversations with
derisive comments about climate change skeptics and discussions on how
to portray climate change research.
Some of the scientists involved say their words are being taken out of
context and maintain their global warming research is solid.
Inhofe also said the timing of the e-mails' publications "could not be
better" for the upcoming world climate talks in Copenhagen, which he
plans to attend as a "one-man truth squad."
John Galt
> On Nov 30, 9:46 pm, John Galt <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> cop welfare wrote:
>>> On Nov 30, 9:27 pm, John Galt <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Demon Buddha wrote:
>>>>> John Galt wrote:
>>>>>> Demon Buddha wrote:
>>>>>>>> Climategate spells end to the false science of climate change
>>>>>>>> With the release of over 60 megabytes worth of incriminating emails,
>>>>>>>> and the world getting a glimpse into the world of fanatical pseudo-
>>>>>>>> science, there is little that can be done by the professors who are
>>>>>>>> now on intellectual trial. Whether the emails were leaked or hacked,
>>>>>>>> the people responsible for getting the information out have helped
Unless you think he hired the hackers, yea, I'm sure.
JG
Demon Buddha
> Now, all the above MAY be irrelevant to the real question of whether
> warming is human-caused or not, but any politician that would commit
> their nation to commit funds before the entire matter is explored ought
> to be shot for treason; and anyone who thinks the above is just an
> irrelevant distraction ought to be imprisoned based solely on their
> danger to society.
This was precisely my point in another post. Those jokers have
possibly imperiled, quite literally, the entire planet with their fraud.
Chances seem strong that we will not be able to make a reasonable
determination for many years or decades to come. That is why they must
be fully investigated and if found to have been committing fraud, tried
for crimes against humanity and executed as an example to anyone else
considering anything cute.
Demon Buddha
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> and furthermore...(ho-hum...)
> http://www.cleanskies.com/articles/inhofe-calls-investigation-hacked-emails
> Inhofe Calls for Investigation of Hacked EmailsBy: Clean Skies News,
> Published: 11/24/09 2:08pm
>
>
> There's more fallout from the publication of e-mails and data stolen
> from a British climate research center.
>
> Oklahoma Senator Jim Inhofe, the Senate's most prominent climate
> change skeptic, says he'll investigate how the U.S. handled climate
> data and whether researchers "cooked the science."
>
> Inhofe, the ranking Republican on the Senate Environment and Public
> Works Committee, tells The Washington Times he'll ask for the probe
> when Congress returns from its Thanksgiving recess.
>
> Last week, hackers took a decade's worth of material stored on
> computers the University of East Anglia in Great Britain.
>
> They posted some of it on the web, including conversations with
> derisive comments about climate change skeptics and discussions on how
> to portray climate change research.
>
> Some of the scientists involved say their words are being taken out of
> context and maintain their global warming research is solid.
>
> Inhofe also said the timing of the e-mails' publications "could not be
> better" for the upcoming world climate talks in Copenhagen, which he
> plans to attend as a "one-man truth squad."
And this impugns Inhofe... how?
What is your point?
John Galt
Right.
No more models, unless the models are good looking chicks on a runway.
When the Maldives go underwater, we'll revisit the issue.
JG
JayPee Vee
> "Kevin Cunningham" <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>
> news:6aeae440-6241-4ae9...@o13g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Climategate spells end to the false science of climate change
>
> > With the release of over 60 megabytes worth of incriminating emails,
> > and the world getting a glimpse into the world of fanatical pseudo-
> > science, there is little that can be done by the professors who are
> > now on intellectual trial. Whether the emails were leaked or hacked,
> > the people responsible for getting the information out have helped
> > uncover the truth about "climate change" like no news story before it.
> > While there have been piles of evidence to expose the global warming
> > fraud in the past, a written exchange in their very own words is the
> > ultimate proof.
>
> >http://www.infowars.com/climategate-spells-end-to-the-false-science-o...
>
> Let me know when the first indictment is handed down....
> ********************************************
> Already done in the court of informed public opinion.
Irrelevant, dismissed.
Me, ...again!
You two guys are welcome as much as anyone to your overlaping opinions and
evaluations, however, my views are as follows:
1. The human race, as a species, is going to have to deal with at least
the following big problems in the next few decades:
a) Climate change, regardless of the contribution from human activity.
b) Climate change, if human contributions grow well above current levels.
With China, where the CO2 output already came from very low to right up to
USA levels TODAY and India, where the country as much as anyone else wants
to modernize there will be much more CO2 expected in the next 1-2 decades,
not to mention other 3rd world countries (sub-Saharan Africa and the rest
of Latin America) also wanting to modernize, as mechanization expands),
the contributions from human activity will surely increase, dramatically.
c) Non-renewable resource depletion, expanded pollution by more and more
diverse toxic chemicals, continued expansion of garbage production from
non-recycled and "throw away" products of modern culture, and the
stability/regulation of world class economic systems, to name a few.
I agree that the causes of naturally occurring climate change is
unknown but climatologic study should be continued. The recent trend
looked at over the last 50 years, compared to indirect measures going back
much longer, is pretty clear.
Estimates of greenhouse gas release by human activity, however, is very
easily calculated from oil/gas/etc use data over, say, 3-10 years into the
future if anyone makes reasonable projections based on current use and
current growth rates.
In the event that it becomes established that the human contribution is
significant, or becomes dominant, it will be even more difficult to get
the situation under control. Even if the human contribution is not
significant, if some new natural process comes into existence, or is
already in operation, we may still end up needing a crash program of some
kind.
Its fine with me if you guys want to take a wait-and-see approach, but I
also think an approach that follows a "be prepared" strategy can be
justified at some level.
The sinking of the Titanic is just one example where too many unwise
things were done and not enough wise things were done which,
together, could have prevented or minimized the losses.
cop welfare
> cop welfare wrote:
> > On Nov 30, 9:46 pm, John Galt <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> cop welfare wrote:
> >>> On Nov 30, 9:27 pm, John Galt <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Demon Buddha wrote:
> >>>>> John Galt wrote:
> >>>>>> Demon Buddha wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Climategate spells end to the false science of climate change
> >>>>>>>> With the release of over 60 megabytes worth of incriminating emails,
> >>>>>>>> and the world getting a glimpse into the world of fanatical pseudo-
> >>>>>>>> science, there is little that can be done by the professors who are
> >>>>>>>> now on intellectual trial. Whether the emails were leaked or hacked,
> >>>>>>>> the people responsible for getting the information out have helped
>
> Unless you think he hired the hackers, yea, I'm sure.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
imhofe's friends might have hired the hackers and then clued him in.
he was johnny on the spot getting his face in the news when it came
out.
http://washingtonindependent.com/1066/sen-inhofe-iraq-is-not-in-africa
cop welfare
> cop welfare wrote:
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > and furthermore...(ho-hum...)
> > Inhofe Calls for Investigation of Hacked EmailsBy: Clean Skies News,
> > Published: 11/24/09 2:08pm
>
> > There's more fallout from the publication of e-mails and data stolen
> > from a British climate research center.
>
> > Oklahoma Senator Jim Inhofe, the Senate's most prominent climate
> > change skeptic, says he'll investigate how the U.S. handled climate
> > data and whether researchers "cooked the science."
>
> > Inhofe, the ranking Republican on the Senate Environment and Public
> > Works Committee, tells The Washington Times he'll ask for the probe
> > when Congress returns from its Thanksgiving recess.
>
> > Last week, hackers took a decade's worth of material stored on
> > computers the University of East Anglia in Great Britain.
>
> > They posted some of it on the web, including conversations with
> > derisive comments about climate change skeptics and discussions on how
> > to portray climate change research.
>
> > Some of the scientists involved say their words are being taken out of
> > context and maintain their global warming research is solid.
>
> > Inhofe also said the timing of the e-mails' publications "could not be
> > better" for the upcoming world climate talks in Copenhagen, which he
> > plans to attend as a "one-man truth squad."
>
> And this impugns Inhofe... how?
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
my point?
no, your point.
the one beneath your right-wing asshole tinhat.
John Galt
Of course.
They might have been little green men from outer space, too.
There's evidence, there's speculation, and then there's wild
speculation. I can see you're into the latter.
JG
cop welfare
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>
> - Show quoted text -
i might at times be into less than 'currently' credible speculation
but...
i AM aware that you personally, when you encounter inconvenient
questioning, tend to disappear like zerro or else try to overwhelm
with credentials.
kind of crude for an educated person, isn't it?
(poof!)
John Galt
Ah. A groupie.
JG
Demon Buddha
I do like the way you think. Almost as demented as me. Kudos.
>
> When the Maldives go underwater, we'll revisit the issue.
Now that sounds like a good way to proceed.
Demon Buddha
> You two guys are welcome as much as anyone to your overlaping opinions
> and evaluations, however, my views are as follows:
>
> 1. The human race, as a species, is going to have to deal with at least
> the following big problems in the next few decades:
>
> a) Climate change, regardless of the contribution from human activity.
Perhaps, but let us bear in mind that homo sapiens has existed a very
short time when taken in geological terms. Had we been tracking weather
since we popped out of Jed Clampett's ass all those millenia ago,
chances are fair to middling we still would not be able to predict what
was coming down the pike for the next 1000 years, much less the coming 100.
Given the geological forces in question, what would you propose we do,
if we assume AGW is a nonsense?
> b) Climate change, if human contributions grow well above current levels.
That assumes a noteworthy contribution, which we now have no idea about
thanks to those bozos in England.
>
> With China, where the CO2 output already came from very low to right up
> to USA levels TODAY and India, where the country as much as anyone else
> wants
> to modernize there will be much more CO2 expected in the next 1-2
> decades, not to mention other 3rd world countries (sub-Saharan Africa
> and the rest of Latin America) also wanting to modernize, as
> mechanization expands), the contributions from human activity will
> surely increase, dramatically.
Legitimate questions, for certain, and once again it brings us back to
the screw job those natty little frauds just got caught at.
>
> c) Non-renewable resource depletion, expanded pollution by more and more
> diverse toxic chemicals, continued expansion of garbage production from
> non-recycled and "throw away" products of modern culture, and the
> stability/regulation of world class economic systems, to name a few.
Well, yes, we certainly do have a number of interesting questions
before us and few answers. I am, however, on board with you on the
pollution issue, but I see relatively little to be done about it for the
foreseeable future. Does anyone here think that anyone is going to shut
China down? Not without a lot of shooting they won't and then there are
no guarantees. They are a juggernaut at full steam and have no
intentions of stopping any time soon.
>
> I agree that the causes of naturally occurring climate change is unknown
> but climatologic study should be continued.
Maybe, but one must ask "why?" Those schmucks have so screwed the
works by tossing the real data that more decades will have to be devoted
to collection before any of this will be ready for another attempt.
> The recent trend
> looked at over the last 50 years, compared to indirect measures going
> back much longer, is pretty clear.
Well, um... *no*, it is not pretty clear. We really don't know squat
about the question because we haven't been on the planet long enough to.
>
> Estimates of greenhouse gas release by human activity, however, is very
> easily calculated from oil/gas/etc use data over, say, 3-10 years into
> the future if anyone makes reasonable projections based on current use
> and current growth rates.
Correct, but that it is irrelevant without knowing what it means.
>
> In the event that it becomes established that the human contribution is
> significant, or becomes dominant, it will be even more difficult to get
> the situation under control.
That is speculative at best. But what would you suggest? Shall we
throw away the very basis of our technologies based on a "maybe"? Do
you want to live without modern medicines? They almost all come from
oil and coal. When we get rid of all that, you can forget about
plentiful foods because all the fertilizers come from oil. We could go
down this long litany of life changes that would become a no-choice
imposition on you, but perhaps you get the point?
> Even if the human contribution is not
> significant, if some new natural process comes into existence, or is
> already in operation, we may still end up needing a crash program of
> some kind.
If it is a "natural" process with the energy to alter global weather in
the ways you imply, what do you think we are going to do to stop it?
>
> Its fine with me if you guys want to take a wait-and-see approach, but I
> also think an approach that follows a "be prepared" strategy can be
> justified at some level.
Such as?
>
> The sinking of the Titanic is just one example where too many unwise
> things were done and not enough wise things were done which, together,
> could have prevented or minimized the losses.
The sinking of the Titanic is not a very good example. It was a tiny,
itsy bitsy affair representing nearly infinitesimally small energy
volumes and highly linear systems. They cannot be compared with global
scale energy flow in a highly non-linear context.
I am a skeptic - AGW may indeed be a fact - it may be bullshit. Our
friends at UEA screwed the rest of us royally by dong what they did,
which was to torpedo any hope of having an honest and even remotely
legitimate answer on the question any time within the next 50 years.
Thanks guys.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
cop welfare
>
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** i do like the way you think. Almost as demented as me. Kudos.
> When the Maldives go underwater, we'll revisit the issue.
Now that sounds like a good way to proceed. **
yeh, yer just two wild and crazy guyz, aincha.
p.s. for johnny boy.(jg):
there's yer groupie.
cop welfare
but...
i AM aware that you personally, when you encounter inconvenient
questioning, tend to disappear like zerro or else try to overwhelm
with credentials.
or take charge of the lesson plan.
kind of crude for an educated person, isn't it? " - gw to jg in his
never-ceasing search for cures for the "consoivative" condition.
no denials?
John Galt
Hm? The observation is accurate.
The "explanation" you have arrived at is not.
JG
Beam Me Up Scotty
> John Galt wrote:
>> Demon Buddha wrote:
>>> John Galt wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now, all the above MAY be irrelevant to the real question of whether
>>>> warming is human-caused or not, but any politician that would commit
>>>> their nation to commit funds before the entire matter is explored
>>>> ought to be shot for treason; and anyone who thinks the above is
>>>> just an irrelevant distraction ought to be imprisoned based solely
>>>> on their danger to society.
>>>
>>> This was precisely my point in another post. Those jokers have
>>> possibly imperiled, quite literally, the entire planet with their
>>> fraud. Chances seem strong that we will not be able to make a
>>> reasonable determination for many years or decades to come. That is
>>> why they must be fully investigated and if found to have been
>>> committing fraud, tried for crimes against humanity and executed as
>>> an example to anyone else considering anything cute.
>>
>> Right.
>>
>> No more models, unless the models are good looking chicks on a runway.
>
> I do like the way you think. Almost as demented as me. Kudos.
Just keep the golf clubs out of the hands of the Scandinavian Models.
Or
Pass out clubs to everyone.
John Galt
Uh-huh. It's looking grim for Tiger. He's going to be on the couch for
the rest of his life.
JG
Siobhan Medeiros
> "Kevin Cunningham" <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>
> news:6aeae440-6241-4ae9...@o13g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Climategate spells end to the false science of climate change
>
> > With the release of over 60 megabytes worth of incriminating emails,
> > and the world getting a glimpse into the world of fanatical pseudo-
> > science, there is little that can be done by the professors who are
> > now on intellectual trial. Whether the emails were leaked or hacked,
> > the people responsible for getting the information out have helped
> > uncover the truth about "climate change" like no news story before it.
> > While there have been piles of evidence to expose the global warming
> > fraud in the past, a written exchange in their very own words is the
> > ultimate proof.
>
> >http://www.infowars.com/climategate-spells-end-to-the-false-science-o...
>
> ********************************************
> Already done in the court of informed public opinion.
You mean the rightard court of public opinion.
Haven't heard ONE of these e-mails which is anywhere close to a
"smoking gun".
Siobhan Medeiros
> >> Climategate spells end to the false science of climate change
>
> >> With the release of over 60 megabytes worth of incriminating emails,
> >> and the world getting a glimpse into the world of fanatical pseudo-
> >> science, there is little that can be done by the professors who are
> >> now on intellectual trial. Whether the emails were leaked or hacked,
> >> the people responsible for getting the information out have helped
> >> uncover the truth about “climate change” like no news story before it.
> >> While there have been piles of evidence to expose the global warming
> >> fraud in the past, a written exchange in their very own words is the
> >> ultimate proof.
>
> >>http://www.infowars.com/climategate-spells-end-to-the-false-science-o...
>
> > media. I no longer have TV in the house and cannot confirm.
>
> > Has this been broached in any of the MSM?
>
> ISTM they're doing reporting but no analysis of the implcations.
>
Probably because there are no implications.
Siobhan Medeiros
> Demon Buddha wrote:
> > John Galt wrote:
> >> Demon Buddha wrote:
> >>>> Climategate spells end to the false science of climate change
>
> >>>> With the release of over 60 megabytes worth of incriminating emails,
> >>>> and the world getting a glimpse into the world of fanatical pseudo-
> >>>> science, there is little that can be done by the professors who are
> >>>> now on intellectual trial. Whether the emails were leaked or hacked,
> >>>> the people responsible for getting the information out have helped
> >>>> While there have been piles of evidence to expose the global warming
> >>>> fraud in the past, a written exchange in their very own words is the
> >>>> ultimate proof.
>
>
> >>> Speaking of which, nobody I know has heard of this in US
> >>> mainstream media. I no longer have TV in the house and cannot confirm.
>
> >>> Has this been broached in any of the MSM?
>
> >> ISTM they're doing reporting but no analysis of the implcations.
>
> > No doubt they aren't. Too "inconvenient".
>
> Well, right. The emails decompose into this:
>
> 1) Climate scientists manipulating data to show that historical periods
> of warming were not as notable as the current period.
Yeah, right. Only by idiots who know nothing about how data is
processed and analyzed.
>
> 2) Climate scientists manipulating data to make the current warming
> period appear more extreme than it really is.
Bullshit. Show me the letter.
>
> 3) Climate scientists co-opting the peer-review publication process to
> marginalize their crtitics.
Bullshit. Show me the letter.
>
> 4) Climate scientists thowing away the raw data which the core data on
> which they base their models is based on.
>
Bullshit. Show me the letter.
> Now, all the above MAY be irrelevant to the real question of whether
> warming is human-caused or not, but any politician that would commit
> their nation to commit funds before the entire matter is explored ought
> to be shot for treason;
Or maybe take a couple of days to understand how data is managed.
> and anyone who thinks the above is just an
> irrelevant distraction ought to be imprisoned based solely on their
> danger to society.
>
So, in addition to being a rightard, you're now a fascist. Very
"libertarian" of you. Come and try to imprison me. It will be the
last thing you ever do.
> JG
Bob
news:e4310d43-614b-4f80...@o9g2000vbj.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 29, 9:13 am, "Bob" <n...@email.address> wrote:
> "Kevin Cunningham" <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>
> news:6aeae440-6241-4ae9...@o13g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Climategate spells end to the false science of climate change
>
> > With the release of over 60 megabytes worth of incriminating emails,
> > and the world getting a glimpse into the world of fanatical pseudo-
> > science, there is little that can be done by the professors who are
> > now on intellectual trial. Whether the emails were leaked or hacked,
> > the people responsible for getting the information out have helped
> > uncover the truth about "climate change" like no news story before it.
> > While there have been piles of evidence to expose the global warming
> > fraud in the past, a written exchange in their very own words is the
> > ultimate proof.
>
> >http://www.infowars.com/climategate-spells-end-to-the-false-science-o...
>
> Let me know when the first indictment is handed down....
> ********************************************
> Already done in the court of informed public opinion.
You mean the rightard court of public opinion.
Haven't heard ONE of these e-mails which is anywhere close to a
"smoking gun".
**********************************************
I'm not surprised.
GreyCloud
From file cloudcorr.pro :
; program to construct cloud correlation coefficients (with DTR)
; method approximately follows New et al 2000
; this program is required because Mark New has lost both
; the correlation data file, and construction files
; written by Tim Mitchell 10.01.03
pro CloudCorr
MissVal=-999.0 & Ratio=1.0
NYear=20
MonthNum = strarr(12)
MonthNum = ['01','02','03','04','05','06','07','08','09','10','11','12']
CLD = fltarr (NYear,12,72,36) & DTR = fltarr (NYear,12,72,36)
Aye = fltarr (12,72,36) & Bee = fltarr (12,72,36)
Aye(*,*,*) = MissVal & Bee(*,*,*) = MissVal
...
Do the program comments help any?