Zelensky is Named the Most Influential Jews of 2022

[Mighty Wannabe]

Zelensky is Named the Most Influential Jews of 2022

No. 1 on The Jerusalem Post's Top 50 Most Influential Jews of 2022: Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

By LAHAV HARKOV

Published: SEPTEMBER 25, 2022 07:45

Updated: SEPTEMBER 25, 2022 15:21

https://www.jpost.com/50-most-influential-jews/article-717707

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Mon, 26 Sep 2022 15:59:58 -0700, Mighty Wannabe <@.> wrote:

>Zelensky is Named the Most Influential Jews of 2022

He needs to kill more Russians.

[rbowman]

You really have it in for white Christians, don't you?

[26C.Z968]

Just Russian ones .....

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Mon, 26 Sep 2022 20:03:27 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
wrote:

You have a problem with Russian invaders getting shot, mangled, and
permanently disabled?

[rbowman]

I have a problem with the CIA sponsored overthrow of the legitimate
Ukrainian government in 2014 and the subsequent events. I realize you're
a shill for the globalist warmongers so I'm sure you're ecstatic.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 08:00:36 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>

wrote:

>On 9/27/22 04:48, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Sep 2022 20:03:27 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/26/22 17:44, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 26 Sep 2022 15:59:58 -0700, Mighty Wannabe <@.> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Zelensky is Named the Most Influential Jews of 2022
>>>>
>>>> He needs to kill more Russians.
>>>
>>> You really have it in for white Christians, don't you?
>>
>> You have a problem with Russian invaders getting shot, mangled, and
>> permanently disabled?

<crickets>

>
>I have a problem with the CIA sponsored overthrow of the legitimate
>Ukrainian government in 2014 and the subsequent events. I realize you're
>a shill for the globalist warmongers so I'm sure you're ecstatic.

Oh, you mean when Russia illegally invaded and seized part of Ukraine.
That CIA "plot."

LOL

[26C.Z968]

That junta DID stink. At the time, there was a big push of
support for the 'arab spring' (which just replaced one set
of horrible dictators with another set of horrible dictators).
It really does seem that the EU/USA/NATO saw it's chance to
sneak in a replacement for the Russia-friendly govt. Those
insurgents needed a LOT of funding/coordination to do what
they did so quickly. It was *not* exactly a "popular revolution".
I don't think most (western) Ukrainians were upset about moving
away from Russia - but at the same time weren't particularly
against staying with Russia either,

However it all DID immediately enrage Russia, bruise Russian
pride, threaten Russian military/economic interests. Hence
the Crimea grab that came soon after.

Still, in this rare case, looks like the new dictators ARE
better than the old - and especially for EU/NATO interests.
Ukraine was doing well up until the war, the people seemed
pretty happy and they DO like Zelenskyy.

"Enemy of my enemy" applies here - the new guys were
anti-Russia, ergo Good Guys.

[Mighty Wannabe]

Klaus Schadenfreude wrote on 9/27/2022 10:11 AM:
>> I have a problem with the CIA sponsored overthrow of the legitimate
>> Ukrainian government in 2014 and the subsequent events. I realize you're
>> a shill for the globalist warmongers so I'm sure you're ecstatic.
> Oh, you mean when Russia illegally invaded and seized part of Ukraine.
> That CIA "plot."
>
> LOL

The US was funding "color revolutions" everywhere around the world. Of
course you didn't see any of those riots overthrowing legitimate
governments because your head was too far up your arse as usual.

In 2014 the US-sponsored Maidan Uprising overthrew the democratically
elected pro-Russia president. The reason he was elected was because the
majority of the Ukrainian people were either ethnic Russian or
pro-Russia. The reason they were pro-Russia was because the Ukraine
enjoyed discounted oil, gas and electricity from Russia,  and tallied
gas transit fee for the Russian natural gas passing through pipelines in
the Ukraine to reach European countries. That is like getting free money
just by sitting on your hands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromaidan

After the Maidan Uprising the eastern Ukraine regions declared
independence because the eastern Ukraine regions are mostly ethnic
Russians. The same with Crimea. Crimea had a referendum and joined
Russia in that year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Crimean_status_referendum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_pro-Russian_unrest_in_Ukraine

Of course this is way over your head. You don't need to reply because
you only talk shit when your head is not up your arse.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 17:14:36 -0400, Mighty Wannabe <@.> wrote:

>Klaus Schadenfreude wrote on 9/27/2022 10:11 AM:
>>> I have a problem with the CIA sponsored overthrow of the legitimate
>>> Ukrainian government in 2014 and the subsequent events. I realize you're
>>> a shill for the globalist warmongers so I'm sure you're ecstatic.
>> Oh, you mean when Russia illegally invaded and seized part of Ukraine.
>> That CIA "plot."
>>
>> LOL

============== ALERT! ==============
********* WANNABE Non Sequitur AHEAD *********
============== ALERT! ==============

>The US was [..]

Try and focus.

We're discussing Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine and why their
military will be run through a Ukrainian meat grinder.

[Mighty Wannabe]

Klaus Schadenfreude wrote on 9/27/2022 5:19 PM:
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 17:14:36 -0400, Mighty Wannabe <@.> wrote:
>
>> Klaus Schadenfreude wrote on 9/27/2022 10:11 AM:
>>>> I have a problem with the CIA sponsored overthrow of the legitimate
>>>> Ukrainian government in 2014 and the subsequent events. I realize you're
>>>> a shill for the globalist warmongers so I'm sure you're ecstatic.
>>> Oh, you mean when Russia illegally invaded and seized part of Ukraine.
>>> That CIA "plot."
>>>
>>> LOL
>

>> The US was funding "color revolutions" everywhere around the world. Of
>> course you didn't see any of those riots overthrowing legitimate
>> governments because your head was too far up your arse as usual.
>>
>>
>>
>> In 2014 the US-sponsored Maidan Uprising overthrew the democratically
>> elected pro-Russia president. The reason he was elected was because the
>> majority of the Ukrainian people were either ethnic Russian or
>> pro-Russia. The reason they were pro-Russia was because the Ukraine
>> enjoyed discounted oil, gas and electricity from Russia,  and tallied
>> gas transit fee for the Russian natural gas passing through pipelines in
>> the Ukraine to reach European countries. That is like getting free money
>> just by sitting on your hands.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromaidan
>>
>> After the Maidan Uprising the eastern Ukraine regions declared
>> independence because the eastern Ukraine regions are mostly ethnic
>> Russians. The same with Crimea. Crimea had a referendum and joined
>> Russia in that year.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Crimean_status_referendum
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_pro-Russian_unrest_in_Ukraine
>>
>> Of course this is way over your head. You don't need to reply because
>> you only talk shit when your head is not up your arse.
>>
>>

> Try and focus.
>
> We're discussing Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine

Wash the shit off your eyes and focus. There was no "Russia's illegal
invasion of Ukraine". The Eastern Ukraine regions declared independence
and Crimea voted to join Russia in 2014.

> and why their
> military will be run through a Ukrainian meat grinder.

The Ukraine has already lost 1/5 of its territories to Russia during
this "special military operation". After Putin's partial mobilization,
Putin will officially declare war and bomb the shit out of Kiev with
missiles from 900 kilometers away.

https://liveuamap.com/


Now stick your head back into your arse and don't reply.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 17:35:04 -0400, Mighty Wannabe <@.> wrote:

>>>Klaus Schadenfreude wrote on 9/27/2022 10:11 AM:
>>>>> I have a problem with the CIA sponsored overthrow of the legitimate
>>>>> Ukrainian government in 2014 and the subsequent events. I realize you're
>>>>> a shill for the globalist warmongers so I'm sure you're ecstatic.
>>>> Oh, you mean when Russia illegally invaded and seized part of Ukraine.
>>>> That CIA "plot."
>>>>
>>>> LOL
>>

>>============== ALERT! ==============
>>********* WANNABE Non Sequitur AHEAD *********
>>============== ALERT! ==============
>>
>>>The US was [..]
>>

>>Try and focus.
>>
>>We're discussing Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine and why their

>>military will be run through a Ukrainian meat grinder.

>Wash the shit off your eyes and focus. There was no "Russia's illegal
>invasion of Ukraine".

I guess you (a) don't get newspapers where you live or (b) can't read
or (c) both.

Russia will pay dearly for its aggression and the U.S. will happily
supply Ukraine with the implements of Russia's destruction.

[Mighty Wannabe]

Klaus Schadenfreude wrote on 9/27/2022 6:05 PM:
> Russia will pay dearly for its aggression and the U.S. will happily
> supply Ukraine with the implements of Russia's destruction.

How will the US supply Ukraine when Ukraine is no more? Don't forget
that your rotten missiles are all duds in the silo. The Russians have
the largest number of nukes and they are brand new. All you have is your
big mouth. Now stick you head back into your arse and stay there. Don't
come out unless you absolutely need to breathe.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 18:19:20 -0400, Mighty Wannabe <@.> wrote:

>Klaus Schadenfreude wrote on 9/27/2022 6:05 PM:
>> Russia will pay dearly for its aggression and the U.S. will happily
>> supply Ukraine with the implements of Russia's destruction.
>
>How will the US supply Ukraine when Ukraine is no more?

How will Russia fight when Russia is no more?

[rbowman]

No, I had more in mind when the Ukrainian government attacked ethnic
Russian citizens. The Ukes don't like Russians; why the fuck don't they
just let them go rather than destroying their own country and doing
their best to destroy the EU.

What I don't understand is why anyone who is not Ukrainian gives a fuck.
Oh, wait. Winken, Blinken, and Nod...

[rbowman]

Russia has been underestimated a couple of times before.

[rbowman]

On 9/27/22 14:03, 26C.Z968 wrote:
> Still, in this rare case, looks like the new dictators ARE
>   better than the old - and especially for EU/NATO interests.
>   Ukraine was doing well up until the war, the people seemed
>   pretty happy and they DO like Zelenskyy.

The Ukraine 'doing well' is very relative.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 17:05:25 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
wrote:

>The Ukes don't like Russians; why the fuck don't they
>just let them go rather than destroying their own country and doing
>their best to destroy the EU.

It's better to kill as many of the Russian invaders as possible.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 17:07:48 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
wrote:

It's clear they underestimated Ukraine.

[rbowman]

They sure as hell underestimated the US's willingness to pour billions
of dollars and tons of materiel into that rat hole. Given the corruption
they must be minting new millionaires by the gross. That's millions of
dollars, not hryvnia.

[26C.Z968]

That's all there is for countries like that.

They were, very slowly, coming up in the world though.
A slow advance but an advance nevertheless.

Face it, Ukraine=grain. That's their big thing. Ag.
You don't get rich from that, but you can do OK.

I am kinda impressed with their Neptune missiles
though ... made a few big scores already. Now
Russia keeps its warships WAY offshore. The cottage
drone industry shows promise too. There may actually
be a tech sideline for them in the future.

[26C.Z968]

I think you've been listening to Tucker Carlson - Putin's
best mouthpiece - too much.

[rbowman]

On 9/27/22 22:16, 26C.Z968 wrote:
> I am kinda impressed with their Neptune missiles
>   though ... made a few big scores already. Now
>   Russia keeps its warships WAY offshore. The cottage
>   drone industry shows promise too. There may actually
>   be a tech sideline for them in the future.
>

A Kh-35 by any other name... It does make you wonder about the US
littoral combat ship fiasco. I suppose if you're dealing with Somali
pirates you might want to get closer than 100 miles.

Drones are going to get very interesting. If nothing else you can
bankrupt somebody with a system like Iron Dome. Using a $100,000 Tamir
missile to take out a $1000 homegrown drone isn't cost effective to say
nothing of trying to swat down a swarm.

I've been surprised by the restraint so far. When the US started using
drones to take out people it didn't like or random goat herders I
figured that was going to come home to roost sooner or later.

[rbowman]

I've only listened to Carlson a couple of times and that was back in
February. The MSM media is extremely proud of the amount of support the
US is providing to the Ukraine. There also is a great reluctance to ask
where all the money is going.

I try to gather information from all sources and apply Occam's Razor.
Russia blew holes in two of its pipelines? Okay, yeah sure.

[26C.Z968]

Used to be I could only stand to listen to Hannity for
about five minutes. Lately that applies to Carlson as
well alas. All he seems to do is slag on Zelensky and
push the Russian perspective on Ukraine and its
"fascist threat".

I did come across a "light right" news channel - not
on 24/7 though - called "News Nation". No rants. More
actual 'news' instead of propaganda presentations ...
a bit like FoxNews was at the beginning.

[rbowman]

On 9/28/22 12:02, 26C.Z968 wrote:
> I did come across a "light right" news channel - not
>   on 24/7 though - called "News Nation". No rants. More
>   actual 'news' instead of propaganda presentations ...
>   a bit like FoxNews was at the beginning.
>

I'm not sure about a news source that would hire Chris Cuomo.

[26C.Z968]

I think that's why it's "light right" (on average). CC is
decidedly NOT 'right' in the least, but the channel on
the whole is *fairly* centrist.

I do like getting general NEWS without too much attempt at
analysis or spin however ... hard to find on FOX or CNN
these days. OK ... impossible to find ....... hyper-partisan
rants, rants and more rants 24/7/365

On the web I usually start off with France24 and Deutsche Welle
for news these days. They do have their biases, but they're euro
versions, not exactly the same as their US counterparts. Even
BBC has its merits for American news - they're not so invested,
not quite in tune with, US inner politics and you're more likely
to get a straight-up version of things. France24 is especially
good for news about Africa and the middle east (the Frenchies
still think they own it all and thus pay attention). Good
fuckin' luck finding much of anything in-depth about those
areas on US news sources. Apparently the USA is the ENTIRE
WORLD now so far as FOX and CNN/MSNBC are concerned.

[rbowman]

On 9/28/22 19:42, 26C.Z968 wrote:
> On the web I usually start off with France24 and Deutsche Welle
>   for news these days. They do have their biases, but they're euro
>   versions, not exactly the same as their US counterparts.

If you can read German zeit.de is one of the better sites. spiegel.de
lies a little to the left. Deutsche Welle is state owned so you know
they aren't going to stray far from the party line.

I'll sometimes hit BBC if i think of it.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/us is good if anything is cooking in
that part of the world. Obviously they are interested in what he Pakis
and Chinese are up to.

I also hit rt.com. Both sides are lying their asses off so i like a
balance of misinformation. And last but not least, townhall.com.
Completely biased but Ann Coulter and the comics are good for a laugh.

[26C.Z968]

It is just embarrassing that the only places to get good
straight-up news about events in the USA are NOT in the USA.

The politics here have RUINED domestic news. EVERYTHING has
to be projected through one ideological lens or another.

Back at their inception, both CNN and FOX did pretty straight
up reporting with not too much spin. NOW though ... !!!

Some LOCAL news sources still do a good job, but their scope
is too small to be particularly useful. Local newspapers ...
seem 95% of "their" stories start with "(AP)" or "(Reuters)"
even if the blurb is about something 50 miles away.

[rbowman]

On 9/29/22 08:04, 26C.Z968 wrote:
> Some LOCAL news sources still do a good job, but their scope
>   is too small to be particularly useful. Local newspapers ...
>   seem 95% of "their" stories start with "(AP)" or "(Reuters)"
>   even if the blurb is about something 50 miles away.

Our 'local' newspaper is owned by Lee Enterprises in Davenport with most
of the local staff fired long ago.

[26C.Z968]

Lee ... that's the one that pulled the "Dilbert" comic
for poking some fun at the 'woke' ...........

Cancel.

Many "local" papers perished in the past decade or so,
bought up by a handful of big operations - Lee, Scripts,
etc. Little/late "local" news anymore plus everything
is viewed through the Big Corp ideological lens.

[rbowman]

On 9/29/22 09:23, 26C.Z968 wrote:
> On 9/29/22 11:02 AM, rbowman wrote:
>> On 9/29/22 08:04, 26C.Z968 wrote:
>>> Some LOCAL news sources still do a good job, but their scope
>>>    is too small to be particularly useful. Local newspapers ...
>>>    seem 95% of "their" stories start with "(AP)" or "(Reuters)"
>>>    even if the blurb is about something 50 miles away.
>>
>> Our 'local' newspaper is owned by Lee Enterprises in Davenport with
>> most of the local staff fired long ago.
>
>   Lee ... that's the one that pulled the "Dilbert" comic
>   for poking some fun at the 'woke' ...........
>
>   Cancel.

I can't cancel something I don't subscribe. When I was in rehab waiting
for my bones to mend the rag was sometimes laying around the dining
area. I'd read the comics and do the crossword puzzle.

The web site is paywalled and $1 for 6 months is more than it's worth.

[26C.Z968]

I'm dropping my "local" paper. $750+ a year at this
point for little/late "local" news plus a too-woke
Big Corp perspective on things.

There are a few free/cheap small papers that are
much more locally-focused. Anything else I can get
off the web for free.

Pulp-based 'news' seems to have reached its end.
They'd LIKE you to pay big $$$ for web-based, but
I'm not gonna play. Frankly I *like* paper ...
there's a tangible aspect and it's not open to
later electronic 'revisionism' ... which stinks
of Fahrenheit 451.