Alabama: Not so sweet, not so home (to students, anyway)

[Ramon F. Herrera]

Feds: Alabama immigration law caused spike in Hispanic student
absences
By the CNN Wire Staff

STORY HIGHLIGHTS

# Justice Department's civil rights chief sends letter to Alabama's
superintendent

# He says Hispanics' absences, withdrawals soar due to the state's
immigration law

# Some Hispanic students report feeling unwelcome, singled out and
bullied, he says

# Proponents defend the law, saying Alabama won't be a sanctuary for
illegal immigrants

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/03/us/alabama-immigration-law-education/

-Ramon

[Ramon F. Herrera]

The politicos in charge of the historically racist among racist states
want the Latino kids to change their tune to:

"We don't need no education...
we don't need no thought control.."

-Ramon

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 4, 2:57 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:

From the comments section:

"I was born and raised in Alabama and I can tell you first hand how
many of the people here STILL raise their children to be bigots and
racists. The current governor is a racist. They are hell bent on
keeping the Mexicans out even though the Mexicans are better people
than THEY are."

-Ramon

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 4, 2:57 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:

From the comments section:

"I live in n.w. georgia they still use the n word out loud here like
it is normal and only 2% of my town is black 1% hispanic and when I
say 2% black I mean one family maybe two here. And they have no
problems admitting they are racists here."

"Don't worry, I'm sure these children will be welcomed in your local
street gang. You republicans get what you deserve."

-Ramon

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 4, 2:57 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:

From the comments section:

[Jonathan:]
"I always find it ironic that so far it's three of the historically
most notoriously racist states in our country passing these laws:
Arizona (which was the last state to officially recognize MLK Jr Day
as a national holiday), Alabama (the last state to allow blacks to
vote, and ONLY after the Civil Rights Act made them do so), and
Georgia."

-RFH

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[Ken]

You have posted several comments to your original posting, but you seem
reluctant to mention that the laws passed were done so to address
ILLEGAL immigrants. The law in Alabama as well as those in other states
were necessitated by the fact that the president and his appointees
refuse to enforce federal laws. If they had done so, there would be no
need to pass state laws addressing illegal immigrants.

The argument by the president and his staff is that enforcement of
federal laws should not be done by states, even when the federal
government refuses to enforce those laws. Kidnapping is a federal
offense. If a state official were to witness a kidnapping, are they
prohibited from arresting the perpetrator? This federal government's
arguments are laughable.

Lastly, you imply that southern states are full of racists and that the
northern ones are not. I have lived in both the north and the south,
and I can say from experience that there is less racism in the south
than the north. In fact today there is more racism coming from black
people than there is from whites, and that is to a large part because of
the Jackson's, Sharpton's, Wright's, and Obama's of this country. I did
not include the Herrera's, but you are well on your way to being included.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 4, 7:11 am, Ken <K...@invalid.com> wrote:
> Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>
> > Feds: Alabama immigration law caused spike in Hispanic student
> > absences
> > By the CNN Wire Staff
>
> > STORY HIGHLIGHTS
>
> >   # Justice Department's civil rights chief sends letter to Alabama's
> > superintendent
>
> >   # He says Hispanics' absences, withdrawals soar due to the state's
> > immigration law
>
> >   # Some Hispanic students report feeling unwelcome, singled out and
> > bullied, he says
>
> >   # Proponents defend the law, saying Alabama won't be a sanctuary for
> > illegal immigrants
>
> >http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/03/us/alabama-immigration-law-education/
>
> > -Ramon
>

> You have posted several comments to your original posting,
> but you seem reluctant to mention that the laws passed were
> done so to address ILLEGAL immigrants.

Right, like they will EVER going to say something different!

Duh!

-Ramon

--------------------

j3hess
3:09 PM CDT
If the issue was only economic and the discussion was rational, we
would have had a fix back when president G.W. Bush proposed it.

But the vitriol suggests this isn't an economic issue, it is a purity
issue. It is about dark-skinned unclean lower-class people sullying
our white middle-class society. (This is why Asians get to be white -
the ones who make it here these days are middle/professional/business
class.)

This is NOT to say that everyone concerned about immigration is
racist. But this is where a lot of the heat comes from. This is why
immigrants are accused of committing disproportional amounts of crime.
Since it is socially unacceptable to be outwardly racist, the springs
of residual racism find another outlet.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 4, 7:11 am, Ken <K...@invalid.com> wrote:

> I did not include the Herrera's [sic], but you are well on

> your way to being included.

Ken,

When you do that, do not forget to add the name of the ONE church in
America that is on your side on immigration, per the "Herrera
Challenge - Religious Edition".

There are 350,000 churches in America. I dare you to find ONE on your
side.

Hatred is on your side.

-Ramon

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 4, 7:11 am, Ken <K...@invalid.com> wrote:

> The argument by the president and his staff is that
> enforcement of federal laws should not be done by states

That is a lie. The truth is the opposite of what you claim.

Go read and learn a little, and then come back.

-Ramon

[Ken]

You need to read a newspaper, and you will find they (the federal
government) just made that argument before the Supreme Court.

[Fred E Brown]

"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in message
news:4880852d-6502-4b5f...@z17g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...

>
> Feds: Alabama immigration law caused spike in Hispanic student
> absences
> By the CNN Wire Staff
>
> STORY HIGHLIGHTS
>
> # Justice Department's civil rights chief sends letter to Alabama's
> superintendent

Proponents defend the law, saying Alabama won't be a sanctuary for

illegal immigrants.

> # He says Hispanics' absences, withdrawals soar due to the state's
> immigration law

Proponents defend the law, saying Alabama won't be a sanctuary for

illegal immigrants.

> # Some Hispanic students report feeling unwelcome, singled out and
> bullied, he says

Proponents defend the law, saying Alabama won't be a sanctuary for

illegal immigrants.

> http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/03/us/alabama-immigration-law-education/
>
> -Ramon
>

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 4, 7:41 am, "Fred E Brown" <fredebr...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in messagenews:4880852d-6502-4b5f...@z17g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...

>
>
>
> > Feds: Alabama immigration law caused spike in Hispanic student
> > absences
> > By the CNN Wire Staff
>
> > STORY HIGHLIGHTS
>
> > # Justice Department's civil rights chief sends letter to Alabama's
> > superintendent
>
>   Proponents defend the law, saying Alabama won't be a sanctuary for
>  illegal immigrants.
>
> > # He says Hispanics' absences, withdrawals soar due to the state's
> > immigration law
>
>   Proponents defend the law, saying Alabama won't be a sanctuary for
>   illegal immigrants.
>
> > # Some Hispanic students report feeling unwelcome, singled out and
> > bullied, he says
>
>   Proponents defend the law, saying Alabama won't be a sanctuary for
>   illegal immigrants.

Sorry, defenders, NOT on our watch!!!

-Jimmy Madison and His Gang of Founders

[Ramon F. Herrera]

Ken,

I have been following the issue for 7 years. That is the ONLY subject
that I post. I just spent 3 days in the Washington Post forums arguing
and debating the issue with people that REALLY know what they are
talking about. I beat Ruben Navarrette in post by a factor of 100, at
least. NOBODY in Usenet can touch my collection of URLs.

You may start reading about Section 187(g), and the reason the
Maricopa officers were fired by ICE:

http://www.ice.gov/news/library/factsheets/287g.htm

The Federal government has NO PROBLEM with states and even cities
doing ENFORCEMENT, and the whole mess is about who is on the driver's
seat.

This is the (admittedly pedestrian and unorthodox) way I explain the
Supremacy Clause (what the USSC case is ONLY about, for now!)
situation to folks:

States/Ramon: "Would you allow me to perform a full physical on your
teenage daughter?? Pap smear included? Hey, the gynecologist can do
it! and so can I!!!"

-Ramon

[Kickin&amp;#39; Ass and Takin&amp;#39; Names]

On May 4, 8:11 am, Ken <K...@invalid.com> wrote:
> Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>
> > Feds: Alabama immigration law caused spike in Hispanic student
> > absences
> > By the CNN Wire Staff
>
> > STORY HIGHLIGHTS
>
> >   # Justice Department's civil rights chief sends letter to Alabama's
> > superintendent
>
> >   # He says Hispanics' absences, withdrawals soar due to the state's
> > immigration law
>
> >   # Some Hispanic students report feeling unwelcome, singled out and
> > bullied, he says
>
> >   # Proponents defend the law, saying Alabama won't be a sanctuary for
> > illegal immigrants
>
> >http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/03/us/alabama-immigration-law-education/
>
> > -Ramon
>
>         You have posted several comments to your original posting, but you seem
> reluctant to mention that the laws passed were done so to address
> ILLEGAL immigrants.  The law in Alabama as well as those in other states
> were necessitated by the fact that the president and his appointees
> refuse to enforce federal laws.

So -- you're telling us that before President Obama took office there
was not one single illegal alien in the USofA?

Damn, boy, you people are stupid.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 4, 7:28 am, Ken <K...@invalid.com> wrote:

Here's the situation, Ken. Let me stress this:

(1) The FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS NOT AGAINST STATES (even cities)
ENFORCING IMMIGRATION LAWS - QUITE THE CONTRARY, they need all the
help they can get.

(2) Rest assured that Reagan, the Bushes, even a theoretical McCain
Administration would have sued as well. This is seen as "Federal
Supremacy" vs. "States Rights" (aka, by some as: "Jim Crow Laws).

----------------------

Here's a great tutorial explanation. Suppose that you (the Federal
Government) have a very nice car (aka immigration policy). In this
analogy I am your neighbor (the State of Arizona). Suppose further
that I am under the impression that you don't take care of your car as
well as you should (read: I am convinced you are a slob), and every
morning I wash it, buff it, dry it, pamper it, etc.

The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution says that Foreign Matters
(embassies, treaties, immigration, etc.) are the province of the
FEDERAL Branch. IOW: The CAR belongs to YOU.

After my unauthorized car-cleaning activities, you have 3 options:

(1) Ignore me. Leave me alone. "Hey, that guy 'Ramon Arizona' is doing
a great job, the car looks great!". This is what has happened with
California marihuana laws vs. Federal laws. The Feds have decided no
to sue.

(2) Sue me. "This is my friggin' car! DO NOT TOUCH IT!!" This is what
the Federal government has done with Arizona and the other copycat,
rogue states that have attempted to pass similar legislation.

(3) Finally, you and I can sign a detailed agreement: "You can wash
the car, only when I don't need it, but not when I am sleeping, and
never use toxic polish". This is the IDEAL result, but as long as
Arizona say: "It is MY way or the high way!", Washington will reply:
"Actually, dear, it is MY friggin' car, so it is MY way".

-Ramon The Amateur Constitutionalist

(to be continued)

[Ramon F. Herrera]

Ken:

Hey! Nobody is saying that immigration laws should not be enforced! On
the contrary! Furthermore, NOBODY is saying that states cannot take an
active part on it! Or even cities! In fact, there are so many
undocumented folks that DHS/ICE by itself cannot keep up. They are
working at their MAXIMUM capacity. They are doing their job and then
some.

What matters is that any cooperative activity MUST be done under under
the supervision, approval, whim, vanity, caprice, deadlines,
schedules, locations, timetables, rules, warnings, guidelines, orders,
priorities, regulations, beck an call, guidance, leadership,
sponsorship, acquiescence, permission, permits, subordination,
umbrella, direction, directives, management, underwriting, vision,
planning, dominance ...

of the F-E-D-E-R-A-L G-O-V-E-R-N-M-E-N-T

Why? Because they OWN the friggin' car!

-Ramon

ps: The question is: Will The Supremes give up their Supremacy?

[Ken]

You can cut it thick, you can cut it thin, but it is still Baloney!!
The issue is not a car parked on another person's lot, but ILLEGAL
people consuming resources paid for by the states (aka neighbor). In
other words, the federal government who is refusing to enforce the law
is costing the states valuable resources (taxes). When the states ask
the feds to do something, they refuse. THAT is why the states have
taken action.

Finally you seem to be hinting that because there are so many who have
broken the law, and it would be hard to correct, that they should be
forgiven. If the neighborhood in which you live were overrun with
criminals committing crimes, would you throw up your hands and say
nothing should be done? Your arguments are specious.

[Ken]

I do not believe I ever said that. Please reread my comments above
V-E-R-Y S-L-O-W-L-Y. It is the current administration that is
challenging the laws passed by the states in the Supreme Court. This is
being done NOW, not ten years or a hundred years ago.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 4, 9:59 am, Ken <K...@invalid.com> wrote:

>
> Finally you seem to be hinting that because there are so many who have
> broken the law, and it would be hard to correct, that they should be
> forgiven.  If the neighborhood in which you live were overrun with
> criminals committing crimes, would you throw up your hands and say
> nothing should be done?  Your arguments are specious.

Since:

- the US Chamber of Commerce (all US businesses, really)
- all US religious denominations and churches
- even the US military

are on the opposite side of yours...

The "neighborhood" analogy is rather crappy.

-------------------------------------------

I am not hinting it, I am STATING IT for the whole world to read: If a
law is repeatedly violated and ignored by millions (for every employee
there is at least one employer or client) it is the law which is wrong
and must be Comprehensively Reformed.

Both parties acknowledge that current legislation is not working.

-Ramon

[Ramon F. Herrera]

The undocumented workers pay more in taxes than they get back. We are
stealing from them.

You don't happen to have any hard evidence, do you?

-Ramon

ps: I used the car analogy because you (and your fellows) are TOTALLY
IGNORANT about the topic and just repeat like parrots the LIES from
the haters.

[Barack Obama, the guy that killed bin Laden.]

"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in message
news:4880852d-6502-4b5f...@z17g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...

<snip>

Did y'all know I killed bin Laden? Yep, me. I issued the order. I gave the
go ahead. Me, I did it.

And just think how bad it would have been for me if them Navy Seals had been
killed.

That's how brave I am.

Now, don't forget, I killed bin Laden. Me. I did it.

Romney wouldn't have killed bin Laden like I did either, like when I killed
bin Laden.

-Barack Obama, the guy that killed bin Laden.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

In a clear demonstration that he lacks the ability to perform abstract
reasoning, Ken stated:

> You can cut it thick, you can cut it thin, but it is still
Baloney!!
> The issue is not a car parked on another person's lot

Read again: The car IS YOURS and IT IS PARKED ON YOUR LOT. The parking
site is irrelevant, anyway. The crux of the argument is whether a NON-
OWNER can deal with it, without the OWNER's PERMISSION.

In any event, the Federal Branch has SUPREMACY over immigration
matters. The authors of AZ SB-1070 and similar legislation (Hazleton,
PA; Farmers Branch, TX; Fremont, NE; GA; AL; SC; UT, etc.) are batting
about 0 for 14 in Federal Court. To this day, those laws are
UNCONSTITUTIONAL. The judges have said -essentially unanimously- that
States cannot LEGISLATE on immigration matters. You may call it car or
whatever, the SUPREMACY remains.

The crown jewel of the Confederate states in AZ vs. US, the pride and
joy for your side, was the creation of a brand new crime: "Being
undocumented in Arizona (SC, AL, GA)". That is a HUGE NO-NO in Human
Rights! That is the first measure taken by the likes of Chavez,
Ahmadinejad, Hitler and Jon-Il: Create a new "crime". The Founders are
cringing.

Being undocumented in Arizona CANNOT possibly be a crime. Being
undocumented in the US is (a civil infraction or a crime). A FEDERAL
crime. It is not a STATE crime and therefore the state CANNOT HOLD
YOU.

A few days ago, ALL the Justices expressed "serious reservations"
about your crown jewel: Consider it dead on arrival.

There are FOUR issues being considered. You will be lucky if one is
ruled for your side ("papers Please").

-Ramon

[Ken]

Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>>
>
>> You can cut it thick, you can cut it thin, but it is still Baloney!!
>> The issue is not a car parked on another person's lot, but ILLEGAL
>> people consuming resources paid for by the states (aka neighbor).
>
> The undocumented workers pay more in taxes than they get back. We are
> stealing from them.

"Undocumented workers?" You mean criminals who have broken the law by
entering the country illegally. Try doing what they have done in any
other country, they would find themselves in JAIL. Also if you feel
they are paying too much in taxes, there is a way to rectify that:
Leave the country that you have entered ILLEGALLY.

>
> You don't happen to have any hard evidence, do you?

I could for instance retrieve the statistics on how many illegal
Hispanics are in jail or have been arrested for crimes. Somehow I don't
think the effort would be worth it since you would not accept the
figures anyway.

"None so blind as those who will not see."

>
> -Ramon
>
> ps: I used the car analogy because you (and your fellows) are TOTALLY
> IGNORANT about the topic and just repeat like parrots the LIES from
> the haters.

I cannot express how grateful the readers of this newsgroup are that
you find the time to enlighten we peons.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

> It is the current administration that is challenging
> the laws passed by the states in the Supreme Court.

Not really. It was Arizona who decided that their only hope was the
USSC conservative majority.

Any expert will tell you that a was a maneuver born out of frustration
and desperation, a hail to Mary. This is due to the fact that AZ and
SB-1070 supporters are batting about 1 for 14 (*).

The Bush family and their allies (and Karl Rove) have expressed their
opposition against AZ SB-1070.

-Ramon

(*) Your people have only won one (E-Verify) case against the US
Chamber of Commerce, ACLU and DoJ, but this is a ruling against
BUSINESSES. The rest of legislation is against "We The People" and
Washington's Supremacy: good luck on those!!! LOL.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 4, 10:37 am, Ken <K...@invalid.com> wrote:
> Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>
> >> You can cut it thick, you can cut it thin, but it is still Baloney!!
> >> The issue is not a car parked on another person's lot, but ILLEGAL
> >> people consuming resources paid for by the states (aka neighbor).
>
> > The undocumented workers pay more in taxes than they get back. We are
> > stealing from them.
>

> "Undocumented workers?"  You mean criminals

You say tomahto, I say tomato.

Why exactly should I use your terms? If I am pitching, should I pay
attention to my catcher or to you?

According to John Morton, Chief of La Migra, they are not criminals.
All media (even your Faux) agrees and do not affix that label filled
with hatred that you folks prefer.

-Ramon

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 4, 10:37 am, Ken <K...@invalid.com> wrote:

> I could for instance retrieve the statistics on how many illegal
> Hispanics are in jail or have been arrested for crimes.
> Somehow I don't think the effort would be worth it since you
> would not accept the figures anyway.

Not only will I accept them, I can give a few more of my own, that you
didn't know.

Did I ever say that Hispanics are little nuns? Mother Teresas?

Hispanics have MORE than our share of crimes, as with ANY poorer
group.

-Ramon

[Ken]

Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> On May 4, 10:37 am, Ken<K...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
> > I could for instance retrieve the statistics on how many illegal
> > Hispanics are in jail or have been arrested for crimes.
> > Somehow I don't think the effort would be worth it since you
> > would not accept the figures anyway.
>
> Not only will I accept them, I can give a few more of my own, that you
> didn't know.

From: http://www.project.org/info.php?recordID=174

At the end of 2007:

"The report also showed large racial disparities, with black males
incarcerated at a rate more than 6.5 times that of white males and 2.5
that of Hispanic males. At the end of 2007 there were 3,138 Black male
sentenced prisoners per 100,000 Black males in the United States; this
is down for the sixth year in a row. The second highest is the rate of
1,259 Hispanic male sentenced prisoners per 100,000 Hispanic males,
compared with 481 White male sentenced prisoners per 100,000 White
males. Amongst females the same disproportion applies to the rates in
that 150 Black, 79 Hispanic and 50 White females per 100,000 of each
group were imprisoned."

____________________________________________

http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0349.pdf

Total inmates for 2009 and their percentage of prison population

White, non-Hispanic 326,400 42.5%
Black, non-Hispanic 300,500 39.2%
Hispanic/Latino 124,000 16%

Hope this enlightened you.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

Not, it did not. I know those numbers and more. Care to explain the
relevancy of those numbers?

Do you want me to post the percentage of right handed people in
prison?

The problem with you racists (aware or not) is that you fail to make
the implication. You only post the PREMISE.

What implication can be derived from those figures? Pretend you are
writing a letter to Congress: You begin by writing those percentages
and numbers (that EVERYBODY KNOWS), and after that you write:

THEREFORE, respected Congresspeople...

Therefore what?

We are all eyes and ears.

Enlighten us.

-Ramon

[Warren Penn]

Whew! Just think of the impact on colleges offering hi-tech degrees.

[First. Post]

Indeed. The percentage of Mexicans in jail, whether legal immigrants or not, is
irrelevant to the fact that ALL illegal immigrants are criminals. Try to spin
and cloud the issue all you want but they are all criminals. Doesn't matter how
much they pay in sales tax or what they do for a living, they are breaking the
law, period. Any subsequent crimes they are guilty of are due to the fact that
they are here illegally in the first place.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 4, 12:48 pm, First. Post <OccupiersDumberThanD...@invalid.net>
wrote:

[The guy hidden behind the tunic wrote:]

> The percentage of Mexicans in jail, whether legal
> immigrants or not, is irrelevant to the fact that
> ALL illegal immigrants are criminals.

Only after being convicted of violating a Criminal Statue (Being in
the US WOP is NOT one).

What kind of crappy, backwards, underdeveloped, primitive nation do
you hail from, anyway?

Just because you are able to go into a cybercafe in some sub-Saharan
town does not give you privileges reserved to US citizens.

-Ramon The Rightful One

ps: Ken: We ARE STILL waiting for the RELEVANCY of a
disproportionately high number of Latinos being in jail (legal or
otherwise). Please finish your point, should you have one.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 4, 12:48 pm, First. Post <OccupiersDumberThanD...@invalid.net>
wrote:

> they are breaking the law, period.

Of course they are. They are the first ones to acknowledge it. They
are the first ones requesting to be sanctioned, penalized, fined, etc.
Theirs is the only "crime" (more correctly: transgression) that it
does not have a corresponding penalty. A penalty is the dividing line
between being in an illegal status and being right with the law. ALL
crimes have one (up to death) except theirs: There is no path from "A"
to "B". That is the root of the problem.

Here's a hint: What we on the opposite side of yours want is a Path to
LE-GA-LI-ZA-TI-ON (and Citizenship). That means that the indocumentado
workers have a status of ILLEGALITY. Comprende?

Have you ever heard from anyone claiming that the members of the
undocumented workforce are not breaking the law??

I thought we were past that about 5 years ago. You must live in a dark
cave.

-Ramon

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 4, 1:09 pm, "Ramon F. Herrera" <concord...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Only after being convicted of violating a Criminal Statue (Being in
> the US WOP is NOT one).

Ed: Statute.

-RFH

[Ken]

Ramon F. Herrera wrote:

>>
>
> > Indeed. The percentage of Mexicans in jail, whether legal
> > immigrants or not, is irrelevant to the fact that ALL illegal
> > immigrants are criminals. Try to spin and cloud the issue
> > all you want but they are all criminals.
>

> Only AFTER indicted.
>
> What crappy, underdeveloped, uncivilized country are you posting from?
>
> -Ramon
Wrong!!!!! The definition of a criminal: A criminal is a person who
has done something illegal.

Tell us again what schooling you have?? Did you complete grade school??

[First. Post]

'
The lying hypocritical sack of shit got as good of an education as he could get
in the third world shithole he hails from. It is clearly reflected in his
mentality that one is only a criminal if they are caught and convicted.

[Ken]

Ramon F. Herrera wrote:

>
> ps: Ken: We ARE STILL waiting for the RELEVANCY of a
> disproportionately high number of Latinos being in jail (legal or
> otherwise). Please finish your point, should you have one.

You seem to have a learning disorder. I will try again: As First Post
and I have pointed out, all who have entered the U.S. illegally have
broken the law and have therefore committed a crime. Therefore ALL of
them are criminals by definition. They are not yet convicts because
they have not been convicted. This administration is seeing to that.

As for the statistics: There is a disproportionately high percentage
of Hispanics in the Jails as well as blacks. If you believe that crime
is not higher in neighborhoods dominated by blacks or Hispanics, you are
living in a dream world. There is nothing more I can say. But if you
have one iota of the common sense that you profess to have, even you
will admit this is true.

[First. Post]

On Fri, 4 May 2012 11:36:23 -0700 (PDT), "Ramon F. Herrera"
<conco...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>On May 4, 12:48 pm, First. Post <OccupiersDumberThanD...@invalid.net>
>wrote:
> > they are breaking the law, period.
>
>Of course they are. They are the first ones to acknowledge it. They
>are the first ones requesting to be sanctioned, penalized, fined, etc.
>Theirs is the only "crime" (more correctly: transgression) that it
>does not have a corresponding penalty. A penalty is the dividing line
>between being in an illegal status and being right with the law. ALL
>crimes have one (up to death) except theirs: There is no path from "A"
>to "B". That is the root of the problem.

Of course there is a path to citizenship. You're simply lying. If there were
no path to citizenship then my neighbors down the street that hail from Mexico
City wouldn't have green cards would they asshole?
The path is simple. Go back to Mexico and come back using the legal avenues
that have been in place for decades that millions have utilized to gain
citizenship legally.
What you want is for those that have already broken the law to receive
preferential treatment over those that are entering the country legally thus
promoting illegal activity.
If you don't like the laws of the United States then feel free to take your
happy ass back to Venezuela or whatever shithole you crawled out of.


><rant supporting the breaking of US law snipped>
"Apparently, I'm supposed to be more outraged by what Mitt Romney does with his money than by what Barack Obama does with mine."

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 4, 2:07 pm, Ken <K...@invalid.com> wrote:
> Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>
> >   >  Indeed.  The percentage of Mexicans in jail, whether legal
> >   >  immigrants or not, is irrelevant to the fact that ALL illegal
> >   >  immigrants are criminals.  Try to spin and cloud the issue
> >   >  all you want but they are all criminals.
>
> > Only AFTER indicted.
>
> > What crappy, underdeveloped, uncivilized country are you posting from?
>
> > -Ramon
>

> Wrong!!!!!  The definition of a criminal:  A criminal
> is a person who has done something illegal.

Nope. There are Civil Statutes and Criminal Statutes. Being in the
country without proper documentation is a civil violation, a
misdemeanor. It carries the same level of transgression as removing
the tags from a mattress or pillows.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/criminal

"Judge Andrew Napolitano Slams AZ Law; Says "Being in the U.S.
Illegally is Not a Crime"
http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2010/04/judge-andrew-napolitano-slams-az-law.html

"The resolution notes that in April 2009, Homeland Security Secretary
Janet Napolitano asserted that just crossing the border is a civil
offense, not a criminal offense"
http://tinyurl.com/7m6g3oo

"Since being in the country illegally is a violation of civil law, not
criminal law, on the federal level." (and at the state level it is not
a infraction at all -Ramon)
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/29/nation/la-na-alabama-immigration-20110929

"Many immigration offenses, including being present in the United
States without legal status, are civil violations; they are not
crimes." - John Morton
http://tinyurl.com/7wkz5c2

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Of course, you far righties always refer to the private Constitutions,
Bibles and Dictionaries that you print in your basements.

These are the best definitions when far rightie folks are involved,
the ones by you preferred:

Crime - noun : Any transgression, however serious or benign, committed
by a person that I hate.

Pandering - verb : Any initiative that does not benefit me.

-Ramon

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 4, 2:24 pm, Ken <K...@invalid.com> wrote:

> As for the statistics:  There is a disproportionately high
> percentage of Hispanics in the Jails as well as blacks.
> If you believe that crime is not higher in neighborhoods dominated
> by blacks or Hispanics, you are living in a dream world.
> There is nothing more I can say.  But if you have one iota of the
> common sense that you profess to have, even you will admit this is
true.

Not only have I admitted that your claim is true: if you multiply the
number of crimes committed by Blacks and Hispanics by 50% or 60% ALL
WILL GLADLY ACCEPT THEM. I will say: "Sure, it sounds about right". Go
ahead and DOUBLE the numbers. I will not doubt them. Let's say that
100% of the drug traffickers are Mexican (or Colombian, etc.) If a non-
Latino white kid is found to be in the drug-traffic business I will
RUN on his defense: "Hey, I am sure he didn't mean it! He comes from a
broken home. The drug traffic is a MONOPOLY of Hispanics".

DO WE UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER??? - IS THERE ANYTHING MORE I CAN DO TO
SUPPORT YOUR ARGUMENTS???????
SHOULD WE BRING A BIBLE SO I CAN SWEAR THAT THE NUMBERS BROUGHT BY KEN
NOT ONLY ARE CORRECT, PROBABLY THERE ARE M-O-R-E LATINOS INVOLVED THAT
WE DO NOT KNOW OF???

Having solved that, now comes the part that you have been avoiding:

> There is nothing more I can say.

Why not? You can't? You won't???

Let's try again:

"Dear Congressmen: I, Ken Q. Citizen, given the fact that

[LOTS AND LOTS OF WORRISOME STATISTICS HERE - CRIME - RAPE - BLOOD -
VIOLENCE
IN BLACK AND LATINO NEIGHBORHOODS - MOST DRUG TRAFFIC IS PERFORMED BY
HISPANICS]

... Therefore...

Therefore WHAT?

Can you FINISH the argument??? We are all expectantly waiting to see
the "beef". Did you run out of neurons, imagination or guts?

-Ramon

[Lamont Cranston]

On 5/4/2012 10:48 AM, First. Post wrote:

>
> Indeed. The percentage of Mexicans in jail, whether legal immigrants or not, is
> irrelevant to the fact that ALL illegal immigrants are criminals.

WRONG! Illegal immigration, though illegal, is not a crime just as
breaking a contract, though illegal, is not a crime. That's why
immigration cases are handled in immigration courts instead of criminal
courts.

[Hillary Buckingham]

Ramon is foreign transplant originally from Venezuela, probably a
beaner terrorist, and definitely a Fraud. Ramon F Herrera also goes by
"Cambridge Ray," "Google Poster," "Lucius Sanctimonious," and
"Hadron.".An ultra-left, open-borders pretend-American. He lives and
works in Houston, TX. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.

Ramon F Herrera
13313 Cutten Rd, Apt 7102
Houston, TX 77069-2374

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On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 22:02:16 -0200, "bustyo...@rocketmail.com"
<bustyo...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:04:16 -0500,
>"patrio...@democrathallofshame.com
>http://www.democrathallofshame.com"
><patrio...@democrathallofshame.com> wrote:
>>On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 22:28:21 -0200, "bustyo...@rocketmail.com"
>><bustyo...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>>>On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:06:14 -0800 (PST), "Ramon F. Herrera"
>>><ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>>>>I reported the poor crippled (and that's the least of his problems)
>>>>bastard to some Usenet honchos, former colleagues of mine, and many
>>>>USPs are blocking his posts.
>>>Prove it......................
>>>If you don't prove it in 24 hours THEN WE KNOW YOU LIED..........
>>>HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>That's why he has resorted to name-
>>>>switching: won't work.
>>>Wrong...................
>>>That sidwalk won't clean itself, Beaner. Strap that lef blower on and
>>>get you turd-colored brown wetback ass back to work...............
>>>HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>No proof yet...
>Still no proof................
>The greasy turd-colored wetback janitor lied.....................

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[Lavonda Odell]

Ramon is foreign transplant originally from Venezuela, probably a
beaner terrorist, and definitely a Fraud. Ramon F Herrera also goes by
"Cambridge Ray," "Google Poster," "Lucius Sanctimonious," and
"Hadron.".An ultra-left, open-borders pretend-American. He lives and
works in Houston, TX. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.

Ramon F Herrera
13313 Cutten Rd, Apt 7102
Houston, TX 77069-2374

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On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:03:15 -0800 (PST), "Ramon F. Herrera"
<ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> Re: Governor Christie: "I want to maximize the number of gay men available in New Jersey"

Oops! Caught lying...

Christie never said that...

>http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/17/us/new-jersey-same-sex-veto/

Oops! Caught lying...

Quote is not in your link.

[Jenni Jacinto Sykes]

Ramon is foreign transplant originally from Venezuela, probably a
beaner terrorist, and definitely a Fraud. Ramon F Herrera also goes by
"Cambridge Ray," "Google Poster," "Lucius Sanctimonious," and
"Hadron.".An ultra-left, open-borders pretend-American. He lives and
works in Houston, TX. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.

Ramon F Herrera
13313 Cutten Rd, Apt 7102
Houston, TX 77069-2374

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[Courtesy of Buster Norris]

On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 18:38:21 -0800 (PST), "Ramon F. Herrera"
<conco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>So much for Fair and Balanced...
>http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-sheriff-babeu-20120219,0,182908.story

LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Scandal Rocks Pinal County Sheriff's Election Campaign
Updated: Saturday, 18 Feb 2012, 2:48 PM MST
Published : Friday, 17 Feb 2012, 9:04 PM MST
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/elections/scandal-rocks-pinal-county-sheriff-2-17-2012

[Tory Willa Condon]

Ramon is foreign transplant originally from Venezuela, probably a
beaner terrorist, and definitely a Fraud. Ramon F Herrera also goes by
"Cambridge Ray," "Google Poster," "Lucius Sanctimonious," and
"Hadron.".An ultra-left, open-borders pretend-American. He lives and
works in Houston, TX. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.

Ramon F Herrera
13313 Cutten Rd, Apt 7102
Houston, TX 77069-2374

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[Courtesy of Buster Norris]

On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 15:25:25 -0800 (PST), Ramon F Herrera
<gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote:
>The Nazis gave order to treat all visitors very well.
>Black American athletes: "We were treated better than in many places
>back home in the US".

LiAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No results found for "We were treated better than in many places back
home in the US".
https://encrypted.google.com/

[R Otoole]

Ramon is foreign transplant originally from Venezuela, probably a
beaner terrorist, and definitely a Fraud. Ramon F Herrera also goes by
"Cambridge Ray," "Google Poster," "Lucius Sanctimonious," and
"Hadron.".An ultra-left, open-borders pretend-American. He lives and
works in Houston, TX. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.

Ramon F Herrera
13313 Cutten Rd, Apt 7102
Houston, TX 77069-2374

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[Courtesy of Buster Norris]

On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:52:28 -0700 (PDT), "Ramon F. Herrera"
<ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>On Mar 25, 4:44 pm, "libs.exploit.death"
><l...@political.necrophiliacs.org> wrote:
> > The police believe the witness, so deal with it!
>The Police Chief was FIRED.

“it is apparent that my involvement is overshadowing the process.
Therefore I have come to the decision that I must temporarily remove
myself from the position as the police chief of the city of Sanford.”

>The State Attorney was FIRED.

LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Thursday, Seminole County State Attorney Norman R. Wolfinger
recused himself from the case, sending a letter to Scott requesting
that another prosecutor be assigned.
http://www.sunshineslate.com/2012/03/24/trayvon-martin-state-attorney-steps-aside-chief-steps-down/

[L V. Nickel]

Ramon is foreign transplant originally from Venezuela, probably a
beaner terrorist, and definitely a Fraud. Ramon F Herrera also goes by
"Cambridge Ray," "Google Poster," "Lucius Sanctimonious," and
"Hadron.".An ultra-left, open-borders pretend-American. He lives and
works in Houston, TX. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.

Ramon F Herrera
13313 Cutten Rd, Apt 7102
Houston, TX 77069-2374

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[Courtesy of Buster Norris]

On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:07:23 -0700 (PDT), Ramon F Herrera
<gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote:
>NB1: Which is the only state that has 4 asses and 4 pees?
>NB2: In Spanish, Misipipi ("Me hice pipí") means: "I peed myself".

LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Me hice" = "I did"

"Me pipí" = "I piss"

"Me hice pipí" = "I peed"

"yo mismo" = "myself"
http://translate.google.com/#auto|es|drinks%20pee

What does "Ramon bebidas de pis" translate to??????????????

[I Enid Casto]

Ramon is foreign transplant originally from Venezuela, probably a
beaner terrorist, and definitely a Fraud. Ramon F Herrera also goes by
"Cambridge Ray," "Google Poster," "Lucius Sanctimonious," and
"Hadron.".An ultra-left, open-borders pretend-American. He lives and
works in Houston, TX. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.

Ramon F Herrera
13313 Cutten Rd, Apt 7102
Houston, TX 77069-2374

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[Courtesy of Buster Norris]

On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 19:13:30 -0700 (PDT), "Ramon F. Herrera"
<ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>All expressions of hatred towards whole classes of people come from
>the right.

LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anti-Semitism at Obama/Democrat’s Occupy DC ‘emancipcation day’
http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2012/04/17/anti-semitism-at-obamademocrats-occupy-dc-emancipcation-day-video/

[Josephine Ross]

Ramon is foreign transplant originally from Venezuela, probably a
beaner terrorist, and definitely a Fraud. Ramon F Herrera also goes by
"Cambridge Ray," "Google Poster," "Lucius Sanctimonious," and
"Hadron.".An ultra-left, open-borders pretend-American. He lives and
works in Houston, TX. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.

Ramon F Herrera
13313 Cutten Rd, Apt 7102
Houston, TX 77069-2374

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Frauds are BUSTED and EXPOSED:

alt.politics IP Search Results File: C:\AP_Data\Q_66.162.85.70.txt
07/10/2011

This search result file generated by DemocRAT Hall Of Shame.Com
Copyright© 2010-2011 DemocRAT Hall Of Shame.Com
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Cambridge Ray <ra...@conexus.net>|66.162.85.70
Google Poster <gopo...@jonjay.com>|66.162.85.70
Lucius Sanctimonious <conco...@gmail.com>|66.162.85.70
Ramon F Herrera <gopo...@jonjay.com>|66.162.85.70
Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net>|66.162.85.70

Search start: Sun 7/10/2011 11:02:21 AM - End: Sun 7/10/2011 11:02:23
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From: Hadron <hadro...@gmail.com>
From: Lucius Sanctimonious <conco...@gmail.com>
From: Ramon F Herrera <gopo...@jonjay.com>
From: Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 190.37.71.130
190.37.71.130 = Barquisimeto, Venezuela.

From: Google Poster <gopo...@jonjay.com>
From: Lucius Sanctimonious <conco...@gmail.com>
From: Ramon F Herrera <gopo...@jonjay.com>
From: Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 98.199.50.99
98.199.50.99 = Houston, TX

Ramon F Herrera
13313 Cutten Rd, Apt 7102
Houston, TX 77069-2374

[R Jeanine Santana]

Ramon is foreign transplant originally from Venezuela, probably a
beaner terrorist, and definitely a Fraud. Ramon F Herrera also goes by
"Cambridge Ray," "Google Poster," "Lucius Sanctimonious," and
"Hadron.".An ultra-left, open-borders pretend-American. He lives and
works in Houston, TX. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.

Ramon F Herrera
13313 Cutten Rd, Apt 7102
Houston, TX 77069-2374

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On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:43:10 -0700 (PDT), Ramon F Herrera
<ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>The radio station with the most listeners in the US -in any language-
>happens to broadcast in Spanish. Look it up...

Oop! Caught LYING, again:

Oops! Top 15 Talk Radio (No beaners...)
http://talkers.com/online/?p=71

Oops! Only #13!

Los Angeles Radio Ranker
Time Period: Mo-Su 6A-12A
Survey: March 2010 - Dates in 3/4/2010 to 3/31/2010
Target: P6+
Estimate: Shares
AVG Daily Population: 12,125,300
AVG Daily In-Tab: 2,471
Percent of Population (Daily): 100
Market: Los Angeles
Geography: Los Angeles-METRO
Ranking Outlet Format JAN 10 FEB 10 MAR 10
1 KIIS-FM Pop Contemporary Hit Radio 5.4 5.6 5.7
2 KOST-FM Adult Contemporary 3.9 4.8 4.7
3 KRTH-FM Classic Hits 4.7 4.5 4.6
4 KFI-AM News Talk Information 4.1 4.2 4.1
5 KAMP-FM Pop Contemporary Hit Radio 3.1 3.5 4.0
6 KTWV-FM Smooth AC 2.9 3.5 3.5
7t KLOS-FM Album Oriented Rock 3.3 3.2 3.4
7t KBIG-FM Hot Adult Contemporary 3.4 3.5 3.4
9t KROQ-FM Alternative 2.8 3.2 3.3
9t KPWR-FM Rhythmic Contemporary Hit Radio 3.0 3.4 3.3
9t KCBS-FM Adult Hits 3.2 3.2 3.3
12 KHHT-FM Rhythmic Oldies 3.5 3.2 3.2
13 KLVE-FM Spanish Contemporary 3.6 3.4 3.1
http://www.arbitron.com/home/ppm_data.htm

[Moira Cary Mcknight]

Ramon is foreign transplant originally from Venezuela, probably a
beaner terrorist, and definitely a Fraud. Ramon F Herrera also goes by
"Cambridge Ray," "Google Poster," "Lucius Sanctimonious," and
"Hadron.".An ultra-left, open-borders pretend-American. He lives and
works in Houston, TX. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.

Ramon F Herrera
13313 Cutten Rd, Apt 7102
Houston, TX 77069-2374

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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 12:26:20 -0700 (PDT), Ramon F Herrera
<ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>We can have an idea how far (read: unconstitutional) the pending AZ
>law is, by noticing that Marco -a guy who has criticized RONALD REAGAN
>as being soft on immigration- is against the racially-profiling
>legislation.
>http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/04/27/rubio-criticizes-controversial-arizona-immigration-law
>http://tinyurl.com/2ct4enc

Oops! Caught LYING, again:

"He did not say outright whether he opposes or supports the bill."

[Asia G. Shively]

Ramon is foreign transplant originally from Venezuela, probably a
beaner terrorist, and definitely a Fraud. Ramon F Herrera also goes by
"Cambridge Ray," "Google Poster," "Lucius Sanctimonious," and
"Hadron.".An ultra-left, open-borders pretend-American. He lives and
works in Houston, TX. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.

Ramon F Herrera
13313 Cutten Rd, Apt 7102
Houston, TX 77069-2374

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On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:14:15 -0700 (PDT), Ramon F Herrera
<gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote:
> Message-ID: <879f0a55-a0ff-43e9...@p17g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>
>Nobody would deny me the chance to rehabilitate myself. Look at
>Martha Stewart, illegal stock trader,

LIAR!!

"convicted of lying to investigators about a stock sale and served
five months in prison."

[I Chavis]

Ramon is foreign transplant originally from Venezuela, probably a
beaner terrorist, and definitely a Fraud. Ramon F Herrera also goes by
"Cambridge Ray," "Google Poster," "Lucius Sanctimonious," and
"Hadron.".An ultra-left, open-borders pretend-American. He lives and
works in Houston, TX. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.

Ramon F Herrera
13313 Cutten Rd, Apt 7102
Houston, TX 77069-2374

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On 9 Aug 2009 14:47:07 -0400, Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net>
wrote:
>This is something I don't find in the JFK literature, but I read it in
>the Dallas Sixth Floor Museum. Immediately after the assassination,
>the *people* (not the press!) pointed their finger to the "Minutemen"
>as the organization behind JFK's murder.

"In my own native state of Massachusetts, the battle for American
freedom was begun by the thousands of farmers and tradesmen who made
up the Minute Men -- citizens who were ready to defend their liberty
at a moment's notice. Today we need a nation of minute men; citizens
who are not only prepared to take up arms, but citizens who regard the
preservation of freedom as a basic purpose of their daily life and who
are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom. The
cause of liberty, the cause of American, cannot succeed with any
lesser effort." JFK - January 29, 1961.
http://www.jfklibrary.org/Historical+Resources/Archives/Reference+Desk/Roosevelt+Day+Commemoration+Message.htm

>Fast forward 2009: We still have

We still have YOU LYING...

[Chasity Medeiros]

Ramon is foreign transplant originally from Venezuela, probably a
beaner terrorist, and definitely a Fraud. Ramon F Herrera also goes by
"Cambridge Ray," "Google Poster," "Lucius Sanctimonious," and
"Hadron.".An ultra-left, open-borders pretend-American. He lives and
works in Houston, TX. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.

Ramon F Herrera
13313 Cutten Rd, Apt 7102
Houston, TX 77069-2374

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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:27:05 -0700 (PDT), Ramon F Herrera
<ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>Let me tell you just one item. Fox News is not even available in most
>cable outlets outside the USA.

Oops! The taco-sniffing turd-colored Lawn Boy has been caught LYING,
again:

FOX News Channel Provider List by Country

Provider Contact Info
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,184837,00.html

Pan Asia
Star www.startv.com

Argentina
Direct TV www.directvla.com.ar

Australia
Austar www.austar.com.au
Foxtel www.foxtel.com.au
Optus Pay TV www.optus.com.au
Virgin Blue (airline) www.virginblue.com.au

Bahamas
CableBahamas www.cablebahamas.com

Barbados
CBC Mutichannel www.cbcbarbados.bb

Bermuda
Bermuda Cablevision www.cablevision.bm

Bolivia
Imagen de Television Satelital tvc...@bivosi.scz.entel.bo

Brazil
Net Brazil
RCA Company De Telecomunicacoes ander...@uol.com.br
Sky Brazil www.skyweb.com.br

Cambodia
Phnom Penh Cable TV www.ppctv.com.kh

Canada
Access Communications www.accesscomm.ca
Aliant Telecom Inc. www.aliant.net
Askivision Systems www.aski.ca
Aurora Cable www.aci.on.ca
Bell ExpressVu www.expressvu.com
Bluewater TV Cable www.cabletv.on.ca
Bobcaygeon Cable
Cable Axion www.axion.ca
Cable Cable www.cablecable.net
Cable TV Slave Lake www.cable-lynx.net/slave
Campbell River TV Association www.crtv.net
City West Cable www.monarch.net
Cogeco www.cogeco.ca
Compton Cable TV www.compton.net
Conuma Cable Systems www.conumacable.com
Cross Country TV www.xcountry.tv
Davia Cable
Direct 2 Home TV con...@direct2hometv.com
Eastlink www.eastlink.ca
Ex-Cen Cablevision www.cabletv.on.ca
Execulink Cablecom www.execulink.com
Fenelon Falls Cable Ltd.
Kincardine Cable Tv www.portal.tnt21.com
MASCON www.mascon.bc.ca
Milk River Cable victor...@mrcable.ca
Mountain Cablevision www.mountaincable.net
MTS Allstream www.mts.mb.ca
New North Networks www.inuviktv.com/frame.html
North Nova Cable nnova...@eastlink.ca
Northwestel Cable www.coastcable.com
Novus Entertainment www.novusnow.ca
Persona Communications www.tvnwt.com
Raftview Communications www.mercuryspeed.com
Rogers Cable www.rogers.com
SaskTel Max www.sasktel.com
Seaview Communications www.seaviewcable.net
Shaw Cable www.shawcable.com
Source Cable www.sourcecable.ca
Star Choice www.starchoice.com
Sun Country Cablevision www.sunwave.net
Telus Communications www.telus.com
Ucluelet Video www.ucluelet.ukeecable.net
Westman Communications www.westmancom.com
Yourlink Inc. www.yourlink.ca

Cayman
WestStar www.weststartv.com

Chile
Directv www.directvchile.cl
VTR www.lgi.com/chile

Colombia
Cablepacifico www.cablepacifico.com
Directv www.directvla.com
EPM
Gremial
Superview www.superview.com.co
TV Cable

Costa Rica
Amzak www.amzak.com
Cable Tica www.teletica.com
Supercable maurice...@supercable.co.cr

Dominican Republic
Speilcom SA
Aster Comunicaciones cgo...@aster.net.do
Tricom www.tricom.net

Ecuador
Direct TV www.directvla.com.ec

El Salvador
Amzak www.amzak.com

Grenada
Grenada Cable www.candw.gd

Guatemala
Comtech www.comtech.net.gt
Prosat

Honduras
Amzak www.amzak.com

Hong Kong
PCCW www.nowbroadbandtv.com/eng

Iceland
Icelandic Broadcasting Corp.
Icelandic Television Company www.skjarinn.is

Indonesia
First Media www.firstmedia.com
Indovision www.indovision.tv
PT. Indosat Mega Media www.indosatm2.com
Telkomvision www.telkomvision.com/default.asp

Ireland
Sky www.sky.co.uk

Israel
Yes www.yes.co.il

Italy
Sky Italia www.skytv.it

Jamaica
Allied www.alliedcablevision.com
Entertainment Systems Ltd. cabl...@cwjamaica.com
Jamaica Amalgamated Cable System
Logic One Ltd log...@cwjamaica.com
Oliver
Sauce Communication Network www.saucecomm.com
Telstar

Japan
Americable (Distributor for American Bases) site.americablejapan.com
Mediatti (Kadena Air Base) www.mediatti.com
World on Demand

Kazakhstan
Alma TV amend...@almatv.kz
ICON Limited
LLP Digital
Mitta Steel
Tengizchevroil

Macau
Macau Cable www.macaucabletv.com

Malaysia
Astro www.astro.com.my/v5
Star Cruise (Super Star Gemini) www.starcruises.com/Fleet/Gemini
Star Cruise (Super Star Virgo) www.starcruises.com/Fleet/Virgo

Maldives
Mesco www.mesco.com.mv

Mexico
Cablemas
Cablevision www.cablevision.com.mx
CV Monterrey
Inter-Cable de Victoria, SA de CV
Jesus Ernesto Soto Vega
Maria Irma Salazar Leon ant...@prodigy.net.mx
PCTV www.pctv.com.mx
Sky Mexico www.esmas.com/sky

Mideast
Arab Digital Distribution http://www.adduniverse.com
Econet www.econetcarrier.com
Evision www.evision.ae
Q-te www.qtel.com.qa
Tecom www.du.ae

The Netherlands
CAIW www.caiw.nl
Stichting CAI Hardewijk www.caihwk.nl

New Zealand
Sky Networks www.skytv.co.nz

Nigeria
TrendTV www.trendtv.tv

Pakistan
Cable Plus
Video City Cable Network
Cable Network www.hccnp.net.pk
Rousch Power Plant, www.rouschpak.com
City Cable TV Network
Sahar Cable
SM Cable Network
Chiniot Cable Network
Fauji Kabirwala Power Company Ltd
Depalpur Cable Communication,
MB Cable Network
T A Star Cable Network
S.S Cable Network
Five Star
Excel Cable Network
Global Satellite Cable Network
Fox Tel Network
Video Link
Music Zone International
Web Com (Pvt) Ltd
Ain Dice Satellite Cable Network
Nayatel ( Pvt) Ltd www.nayatel.com
Four Star Cable Network
Fox Tel Cable Network,
Candid Associates
Trivision Multi Channel
New Global Communication
Rex Cable Network
S.A Cable Network
Nizari Communication
Tahir Cable Network
Esquire Cable Network
Bismah Cable Network
Seven Friends Cable Network
Tracks Entertainment
Classic Cable Network
Global Cable Network
Luvis Cable Network
Paramount Cable Network
Sky Net Cable Ent Network
Home Entertainment ( K C S )
Star Cable Network
The Citi Communication Reg
WorldCALL Telecom Limited www.worldcall.com.pk
Rana Cable Network
City Cable Gulshan
Mehran Network (Pvt) Ltd
Show Time
Star Cable TV Network
Mian Cable Network
K+ Entertainment cable
New Digital Cable
Kashmir Cable Network
New Hollywood Cable System
WorldCALL Telecom Limited www.worldcall.com.pk
Rana Cable Network
City Cable Gulshan
Mehran Network (Pvt) Ltd
Show Time
Star Cable TV Network
Mian Cable Network
K+ Entertainment cable
New Digital Cable
Kashmir Cable Network
New Hollywood Cable System
WorldCall Telecom Limited www.worldcall.com.pk
Wateen Telecom www.wateeen.com
Al-Saba Cable
Four Star Cable Network
Video White
ABC Cable Network
O.K Video Centre & Cable
Sony Cable Network
Faisal Cable System
Max Cable Network
Sahar Cable Network
Simky Cable Network
Simky Cable Network
Sony Cable Network
5-Signals Battalian
Gandhara Cable Network
Mardan Cable
The View Cable Network
Star Cable

Palau
Island Cable www.palaunet.com

Panama
Cable Onda www.cableonda.com
Direct TV

Papua New Guinea
Channel 8 www.strong-technologies.com
Hitron www.hitron.com.pg

Peru
Boga Comunicaciones
Directv www.directv.com.pe

Philippines
Accion Cable (Distributor for Provincial Operators)
Central CATV (Beyond Cable)
Destiny Cable www.mydestiny.net
ParaSat Cable

Portugal
Clix SmarTV www.clix.pt
MEO www.meo.pt

Republic of Nauru, Fiji, Vanuatu, Solomon Islands, New Caledonia
Strong Technologies Pty. Ltd. www.sakhalinenergy.com

Russia
Kriljon
OOO Hermstat

Singapore
StarHub Cable Vision www.starhub.com

Slovenia
T-2 d.o.o. www.t-2.net

Spain
Canal Satelite Digital www.plus.es
Grupalia Internet www.superbanda.tv
Jazz Telecom www.jazztelia.es
Novus
Sogecable www.sogecable.es

St. Kitts
The Cable wre...@thecable.net

St. Lucia
St. Lucia Cablevision www.candw.lc/Products/cable-vision-services
Helen Television www.htsstlucia.com

Thailand
Sansuk Network
True Visions www.truevisionstv.com
True Digital Entertainment

Trinidad
T and T Transcable

United Kingdom
Sky www.sky.com

Uruguay
Direct TV www.directvla.com.uy
Nuevo Siglo
Riselco S.A. www.nuevosiglo.com.uy

Venezuela
Direct TV www.directvla.com.ve
Intercable www.intercable.com.ve
NETUNO www.netuno.net
Supercable corp.supercable.com/venezuela/main.htm

Vietnam
HTV Choice Center www.htv.com.vn
Nacencomm

West Indies
Anguilla - CCCH Ltd.
Nevis - CCCH Ltd.
BVI Cable TV

=======================================

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:27:05 -0700 (PDT), Ramon F Herrera
<ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>Fox News is not even available in most
>cable outlets outside the USA. Here in Venezuela, only one cable
>company carries it.

Oops! The taco-sniffing turd-colored Lawn Boy has been caught LYING,
again:

FOX News Channel Provider List by Country

Provider Contact Info
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,184837,00.html

Venezuela
Direct TV www.directvla.com.ve
Intercable www.intercable.com.ve
NETUNO www.netuno.net
Supercable corp.supercable.com/venezuela/main.htm

====================================

Posting:

(2008) Nov: 106
Dec: 66 -38% Beatdown!
(2009) Jan: 8 -88% Massive Beatdown!
Feb: 5
Mar: 47
Apr: 193
May: 295
Jun: 97 -67% Beatdown!

[Tameka Sabrina Stack]

Ramon is foreign transplant originally from Venezuela, probably a
beaner terrorist, and definitely a Fraud. Ramon F Herrera also goes by
"Cambridge Ray," "Google Poster," "Lucius Sanctimonious," and
"Hadron.".An ultra-left, open-borders pretend-American. He lives and
works in Houston, TX. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you
encourage them to continue lying.

Ramon F Herrera
13313 Cutten Rd, Apt 7102
Houston, TX 77069-2374

[][][][][][]
The DemocRAT Hall Of Shame http://www.democrathallofshame.com/ asks
"Why do you always LIE?"

On Thu, 28 May 2009 19:01:56 -0700 (PDT), Ramon F Herrera
<gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote:
>When they ask me where I am from

Nobody asks you where you're from. You're obviously a Beaner so it
doesn't matter which Beaner Toilet you come from...

>So my answer is:
>"I am from the country that has produced:
> - The most Miss Universe winners

Wrong, Beaner:

USA = 7
Venezuela = 5

>ps: No disrespect intended.

List of Miss Universe titleholders
1952 Finland
1953 France
1954 USA
1955 Sweden
1956 USA
1957 Peru
1958 Colombia
1959 Japan
1960 USA
1961 Germany
1962 Argentina
1963 Brazil
1964 Greece
1965 Thailand
1966 Sweden
1967 USA
1968 Brazil
1969 Philippines
1970 Puerto Rico
1971 Lebanon
1972 Australia
1973 Philippines
1974 Spain
1975 Finland
1976 Israel
1977 Trinidad and Tobago
1978 South Africa
1979 Venezuela
1980 USA
1981 Venezuela
1982 Canada
1983 New Zealand
1984 Sweden
1985 Puerto Rico
1986 Venezuela
1987 Chile
1988 Thailand
1989 Netherlands
1990 Norway
1991 Mexico
1992 Namibia
1993 Puerto Rico
1994 India
1995 USA
1996 Venezuela
1997 USA
1998 Trinidad and Tobago
1999 Botswana
2000 India
2001 Puerto Rico
2002 Russia
2003 Dominican Republic
2004 Australia
2005 Canada
2006 Puerto Rico
2007 Japan
2008 Venezuela
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Miss_Universe_titleholders

[Vandar]

Entering the country illegally is a crime punishable by up to two years
imprisonment.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 5, 6:28 am, Vandar <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Lamont Cranston wrote:
> > On 5/4/2012 10:48 AM, First. Post wrote:
>
> >> Indeed.  The percentage of Mexicans in jail, whether legal immigrants
> >> or not, is
> >> irrelevant to the fact that ALL illegal immigrants are criminals.
>
> > WRONG!  Illegal immigration, though illegal, is not a crime just as
> > breaking a contract, though illegal, is not a crime.  That's why
> > immigration cases are handled in immigration courts instead of criminal
> > courts.
>

Pulling a legal handbook out of his derriere, Vandar wrote:

> Entering the country illegally is a crime punishable
> by up to two years imprisonment.

Let's now take a look at some CREDIBLE sources, shall we?

There are Civil Statutes and Criminal Statutes. Being in the country
without proper documentation is a civil violation, a misdemeanor. It
carries the same level of transgression as removing the tags from a
mattress or pillows.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/criminal

"Judge Andrew Napolitano Slams AZ Law; Says "Being in the U.S.
Illegally is Not a Crime"
http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2010/04/judge-andrew-napolitano-slams-az-law.html

"The resolution notes that in April 2009, Homeland Security Secretary
Janet Napolitano asserted that just crossing the border is a civil
offense, not a criminal offense"
http://tinyurl.com/7m6g3oo

"Since being in the country illegally is a violation of civil law, not
criminal law, on the federal level." (and at the state level it is not

an infraction at all -Ramon)

[Vandar]

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 4, 2:57 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> Feds:Alabamaimmigration law caused spike in Hispanic student
> absences
> By the CNN Wire Staff
>
> STORY HIGHLIGHTS
>
>  # Justice Department's civil rights chief sends letter toAlabama's
> superintendent
>
>  # He says Hispanics' absences, withdrawals soar due to the state's
> immigration law
>
>  # Some Hispanic students report feeling unwelcome, singled out and
> bullied, he says
>
>  # Proponents defend the law, sayingAlabamawon't be a sanctuary for
> illegal immigrants
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/03/us/alabama-immigration-law-education/
>
> -Ramon

Alabama boy, 14, charged with murder of half-sister
By the CNN Wire Staff
updated 2:59 PM EDT, Fri May 11, 2012

STORY HIGHLIGHTS

# NEW: The victim was 9 years old, authorities say

# NEW: The sheriff says he has "no idea" of motive

# NEW: The coroner says the cause of death was strangulation by
ligature

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/11/justice/alabama-hanged-girl/

-Ramon

[chicagonut]

On May 5, 6:27 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> On May 5, 6:28 am, Vandar <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Lamont Cranston wrote:
> > > On 5/4/2012 10:48 AM, First. Post wrote:
>
> > >> Indeed.  The percentage of Mexicans in jail, whether legal immigrants
> > >> or not, is
> > >> irrelevant to the fact that ALL illegal immigrants are criminals.
>
> > > WRONG!  Illegal immigration, though illegal, is not a crime just as
> > > breaking a contract, though illegal, is not a crime.  That's why
> > > immigration cases are handled in immigration courts instead of criminal
> > > courts.
>
> Pulling a legal handbook out of his derriere, Vandar wrote:
>
>  > Entering the country illegally is a crime punishable
>  > by up to two years imprisonment.
>
> Let's now take a look at some CREDIBLE sources, shall we?
>
> There are Civil Statutes and Criminal Statutes. Being in the country
> without proper documentation is a civil violation, a misdemeanor. It
> carries the same level of transgression as removing the tags from a
> mattress or pillows.
>
> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/criminal
>
> "Judge Andrew Napolitano Slams AZ Law; Says "Being in the U.S.

> Illegally is Not a Crime"http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2010/04/judge-andrew-napolitano-sla...

>
> "The resolution notes that in April 2009, Homeland Security Secretary
> Janet Napolitano asserted that just crossing the border is a civil
> offense, not a criminal offense"http://tinyurl.com/7m6g3oo
>
> "Since being in the country illegally is a violation of civil law, not
> criminal law, on the federal level." (and at the state level it is not

> an infraction at all -Ramon)http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/29/nation/la-na-alabama-immigrat...

>
> "Many immigration offenses, including being present in the United
> States without legal status, are civil violations; they are not

> crimes." - John Mortonhttp://tinyurl.com/7wkz5c2

>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Of course, you far righties always refer to the private Constitutions,
> Bibles and Dictionaries that you print in your basements.
>
> These are the best definitions when far rightie folks are involved,
> the ones by you preferred:
>
> Crime - noun : Any transgression, however serious or benign, committed
> by a person that I hate.
>
> Pandering - verb : Any initiative that does not benefit me.
>
> -Ramon

Here is the lefty, ethnocentric's dictionary definitions.
Crime - it doesn't apply to illegal alien Hispanics.

Pandering - you bet you booty Hispanics want to be pandered in spite
of the laws of this country. Afterall, we are special!

[plainolamerican]

On May 4, 2:57 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> Feds: Alabama immigration law caused spike in Hispanic student

> absences
> By the CNN Wire Staff
>
> STORY HIGHLIGHTS
>

>  # Justice Department's civil rights chief sends letter to Alabama's

> superintendent
>
>  # He says Hispanics' absences, withdrawals soar due to the state's
> immigration law
>
>  # Some Hispanic students report feeling unwelcome, singled out and
> bullied, he says
>

>  # Proponents defend the law, saying Alabama won't be a sanctuary for

> illegal immigrants
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/03/us/alabama-immigration-law-education/
>
> -Ramon

Alabama immigration law caused spike in Hispanic student
absences
---
excellent!!!
that's what the law was meant to do

illegals are ciminals and real Americans won't tolerate them