Google now reveals the names of abusive posters
Tom Potter
Google now makes it possible for
folks who have been smeared in the News Groups
and BLOGS to seek civil damages
by suing posters in the Civil Courts.
I suggest that anyone who has been called nasty names
in the News Groups to email Google and demand
the names of the posters, and if the names
are not forthcoming, to file claim in their
local Small Claims court against Google for each action
asking for the maximum damages,
and pointing out during trials that Google
has already yielded the point in a higher court.
Considering that most posts are made using Google Groups,
folks who have been slandered stand to collect a lot of money,
from the abuser, or from Google,
if Google is not forthcoming in revealing the abuser's name.
--
Tom Potter
http://tdp1001.spaces.live.com/
http://www.tompotter.us/misc.html
http://webspace.webring.com/people/st/tdp1001/
http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com
http://tdp1001.wiki.zoho.com
Bret Cahill
> Google now makes it possible for
> folks who have been smeared in the News Groups
> and BLOGS to seek civil damages
> by suing posters in the Civil Courts.
One dumb case does not change the body of law.
> I suggest that anyone who has been called nasty names
> in the News Groups to email Google and demand
> the names of the posters, and if the names
> are not forthcoming, to file claim in their
> local Small Claims court against Google for each action
> asking for the maximum damages,
> and pointing out during trials that Google
> has already yielded the point in a higher court.
You'ld have better luck if you sued for defamation first.
The judge can then claim he doesn't know if the case has merit until
Google gives up the name of the poster.
> Considering that most posts are made using Google Groups,
> folks who have been slandered stand to collect a lot of money,
> from the abuser, or from Google,
> if Google is not forthcoming in revealing the abuser's name.
It's surprising Google didn't put up more of a fight.
Bret Cahill
Get lost
Tom Potter wrote:
> As can be seen from the press,
> Google now makes it possible for
> folks who have been smeared in the News Groups
> and BLOGS to seek civil damages
> by suing posters in the Civil Courts.
Jewgle and Yahoo have given up the names of dissidents to Chinese
authorities, dissidents who were later arrested. How much worse can
they get?
Helmut Wabnig
Censorship is on the advance.
The next step will be denunciation.
Wait and see.
w.
Tom Potter
"Bret Cahill" <BretC...@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
news:c7078b6f-859d-46bb...@k13g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
It's the old "All in the Family" game Bret.
Jewish whore, Jewish Google, New York Judge.
.
Face the facts.
Google sold out.
The good part is, that Google opened themselves up to
thousands of law suits by folks who have been smeared in Google Groups,
with worse and more valid insults than Jewish "ho".
Honest truth
> I suggest that anyone who has been called nasty names
> in the News Groups to email Google and demand
> the names of the posters, and if the names
> are not forthcoming, to file claim in their
> local Small Claims court against Google for each action
> asking for the maximum damages,
> and pointing out during trials that Google
> has already yielded the point in a higher court.
Google do release now the emails of the people that post to these group.
Just call one post up and you will see the email address
--
嚙踝蕭Of all the extreme fanaticism which plays havoc in man嚙踝蕭s nature, there is
not one as irrational as anti-Semitism. 嚙皺 If the Jews are rich [these
fanatics] are victims of theft. If they are poor, they are victims of
ridicule. If they take sides in a war, it is because they wish to take
advantage from the spilling of non-Jewish blood. If they espouse peace, it
is because they are scared by their natures or traitors. If the Jew dwells
in a foreign land he is persecuted and expelled. If he wishes to return to
his own land, he is prevented from doing so.嚙踝蕭
Lloyd George
Google Legal Team
>As can be seen from the press,
>Google now makes it possible for
>folks who have been smeared in the News Groups
>and BLOGS to seek civil damages
>by suing posters in the Civil Courts.
What Tom Potter does not tell you is that ANYONE will do the exact
same thing when asked to do so by court order.
>I suggest that anyone who has been called nasty names
>in the News Groups to email Google and demand
>the names of the posters, and if the names
>are not forthcoming, to file claim in their
>local Small Claims court against Google for each action
>asking for the maximum damages,
>and pointing out during trials that Google
>has already yielded the point in a higher court.
We all know that you, Tom Potter, are a lying asshole and there is
nothing you will do about it.
zzbu...@netscape.net
Well, since the entire internet was built arounf a simply routing
extension of the
idiot 1950 US mail system technology it's not really all too
surprising, since the whole
jungle gym techno farce has already mostly been permanetly
rellquised
reliquised to the idiot Quantum Mechanics University MGM systems
anyway, by the real
21st Century Engineers. Who mostly still work on Electronic Books,
Mircowave Cooling,
Thermo-Electric Cooling, Laser Disk Libraries, mp3, mpeg, CD+rw,
HDTV, On-Line Publishing,
C++, USB, XML, All-In-One Printers, Post ACME Screwthreads, Pv Cell
Energy, Cyber Batteries,
Post Vacuum Tube Microcomputers, Optical Computers, Holograms,
PGP, Distributed Processing Software,
Flat Screen Software Debuggers, Mini Computer Hardisks, Self-
Replicating Machines,
Self-Assembling Robots, Multiplexed Fiber Optics, Cell Phones,
Weather Satellites, Data Fusion, GPS,
Digital Terrain Mapping, Cruise Missiles, Phalanx, Drones, UAVs,
AAVs. Atomic Clock Wristwatches,
Light Sticks, Compact Flourescence, Spandex, Plexiglass, Post
McDonald's Gas Turbine Engines,
Hybrid-Electric Engines, ABS, and things CBS will never understand
until Elvis is Resurrected.
>
> Bret Cahill
last_per...@yahoo.com
> As can be seen from the press,
> Google now makes it possible for
> folks who have been smeared in the News Groups
> and BLOGS to seek civil damages
> by suing posters in the Civil Courts.
1. The VAST majority of posters don't use any real
identifying information about themselves.
2. Even if they did, the courts would soon be more
than swamped with whiny posters saying "he called
me a bad name" wah wah, considering this happens
many thousands of times a day on USENET alone,
and has for years.
3. Most of the posters here don't have any kind of
stellar reputations to begin with, would have a hard
time proving they were 'damaged' by any insult.
> I suggest that anyone who has been called nasty names
> in the News Groups to email Google and demand
> the names of the posters, and if the names
> are not forthcoming, to file claim in their
> local Small Claims court against Google for each action
> asking for the maximum damages,
> and pointing out during trials that Google
> has already yielded the point in a higher court.
Don't know you but do people call you nasty names a lot?
> Considering that most posts are made using Google Groups,
> folks who have been slandered stand to collect a lot of money,
> from the abuser, or from Google,
> if Google is not forthcoming in revealing the abuser's name.
I guess, since there was that recent case of the Jew getting Google
to release the identity of one of her insulters, it could mean
that Google is coming under more & more ZioNazi control
to silence criticism of all things Jewish--I mean, it does make
sense--but if these kinds of indicators continue, Google will
cut its own throat.
John Q public
Gee an anonymous poster being libeled by an anonymous poster, the
horror, people who don't know us or have any way we know of of finding
out who we are can libel me and I can seek damages because people who
don't know or care who I am may get the wrong impression about me
Its ludicrous
PD
Feel free to add me to your list for calling you a simpering, thin-
skinned whiner with delusions of persecution.
Tom Potter
"John Q public" <my2c...@me.com> wrote in message
news:2009082608154950073-my2cents@mecom...
Apparently I overrated the intelligence of the
folks who read this newsgroup.
My post was calling attention to the fact that Google
has a race/religion bias, and cannot be trusted to
provide honest searches and to "do no evil",
and that Google can be sent a message
by filing claims in small claims courts,
and demanding the same treatment that
Google gave the New York, Jewish "Ho".
Tom Potter
"Honest truth" <Honest...@Wisdom.net> wrote in message
news:hesxjg0sgplo.1n4bphl4le2ul$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:19:28 +0800, Tom Potter wrote:
>
>> I suggest that anyone who has been called nasty names
>> in the News Groups to email Google and demand
>> the names of the posters, and if the names
>> are not forthcoming, to file claim in their
>> local Small Claims court against Google for each action
>> asking for the maximum damages,
>> and pointing out during trials that Google
>> has already yielded the point in a higher court.
>
> Google do release now the emails of the people that post to these group.
> Just call one post up and you will see the email address
>
> --
> is
> not one as irrational as anti-Semitism. �K If the Jews are rich [these
> fanatics] are victims of theft. If they are poor, they are victims of
> ridicule. If they take sides in a war, it is because they wish to take
> advantage from the spilling of non-Jewish blood. If they espouse peace, it
> is because they are scared by their natures or traitors. If the Jew dwells
> in a foreign land he is persecuted and expelled. If he wishes to return to
>
> Lloyd George
Lloyd George made a good point
when he pointed out the Jews have come into conflict
with all of their neighbors throughout history.
Why have Jews come into conflict with all of their neighbors?
Are Jews "virtuous victims",
and were all of their neighbors ignorant, evil people
who were envious of God's Chosen People?
Or are Jews some kind of cultural cancer
that invades rich, healthy bodies, (Nations)
and weakens and consumes their host?
Why did the Russian Jews,
who massacred the Russian Family,
co-opted the Russian government,
and used Russia as a base from where to
instigate Class Wars all over the world,
institute the phony "Free Jews" scam,
and migrate to Israel and America
at the expense of the American taxpayers
when it became obvious that their
Class Wars plan was not working out?
And why are Jews now instigating Religious Wars
and using American prestige, wealth, lives and limbs
to wage war against Muslims?
Are Jews "virtuous victims"
and are Christians, Muslims and idol worshippers
ignorant, base, envious and evil?
Tom Potter
><last_per...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:0446931e-f880-415e...@z24g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
I am not bothered by people calling me names
or attacking me personally,
as it provides me with an
excuse to make some moral point.
I am bothered by Goggle's obvious race/religion bias,
and their "cooking of the books",
and the point you mentioned
was EXACTLY the point I was trying to make.
The is Google again demonstrated their
race/religion bias, by quickly capitulating
to a Jewish "ho" in the courtroom
of a New York Judge.
No doubt, if a Muslim sued Google to
find out the names of posters calling
him a "Raghead", or if some Christian
sued Google to find out the names of
people calling him a "Nazi" or "Hitlerite"
Google would take the case to the Supreme Court.
Regarding your comment:
"proving they were 'damaged' by any insult",
if many people began suing Google in Small Claims Courts,
it would cost them millions to defend all of the cases,
and they would clean up their act,
and of course, Small Claim Judges
are voted in by the local citizens,
and their judgments cannot be appealed.
Some guys could pick up a few bucks by suing
Goggle in a few Small Claims Courts,
as they would likely default rather than paying
a lawyer to defend the action.
Benj
> We all know that you, Tom Potter, are a lying asshole and there is
> nothing you will do about it.
Oh look Potter! A chance to make big money!
Bwahahahaha!
Like the fat nerdy losers (loosers) living in mom's basement and
posting on usenet have any money to sue for!
Tater Gumfries
> As can be seen from the press,
> Google now makes it possible for
> folks who have been smeared in the News Groups
> and BLOGS to seek civil damages
> by suing posters in the Civil Courts.
Google does not know the real names of every poster. There is no way
they can know, because you can sign up for Google services using a
made up name and email account.
Tater
gabydewilde
lol
Maybe he can borrow against the IOU.
Or sell their organs to the highest bidder?
hanson
------- ahahahaha.... HAHAHAHAHAHA... ahahaha.... ------
>
"Tom Potter" <xpriv...@mailinator.com> wrote:
in message news:4a94...@news.x-privat.org...
As can be seen from the press, Google now makes it possible for
folks who have been smeared in the News Groups and BLOGS
to seek civil damages by suing posters in the Civil Courts.
>
I suggest that anyone who has been called nasty names in the
News Groups to email Google and demand the names of the
posters, and if the names are not forthcoming, to file claim in
their local Small Claims court against Google for each action
asking for the maximum damages, and pointing out during trials
that Google has already yielded the point in a higher court.
>
Considering that most posts are made using Google Groups,
folks who have been slandered stand to collect a lot of money,
from the abuser, or from Google, if Google is not forthcoming
in revealing the abuser's name.
>
.... ahahahaha... Yo, Tom, are you stirring up the Kikes and
their Goyim Serfs again?... But as you can see the number
of posters seeing it your way has increased... which raises
the nasty question: "Is that in the spirit of your mission from
God, that you are on, Tom?".... But carry on. It is HILARIOUS!
>
"Bret Cahill" <BretC...@peoplepc.com> retorts to Tom, wrote:
One dumb case does not change the body of law.
The judge can then claim he doesn't know if the case
has merit until Google gives up the name of the poster.
>
It's the old "All in the Family" game, Bret.
Jewish whore, Jewish Google, New York Judge.
that Google opened themselves up to thousands of
law suits by folks who have been smeared in Google
Groups, with worse and more valid insults than Jewish "ho".
>
Jewgle and Yahoo have given up the names of dissidents
to Chinese authorities, dissidents who were later arrested.
How much worse can they get?
>
Google do release now the emails of the people that post to
these group. Just call one post up and you will see the email
man's nature, there is not one as irrational as anti-Semitism.
If they are poor, they are victims of ridicule. If they take sides
in a war, it is because they wish to take advantage from the
spilling of non-Jewish blood. If they espouse peace, it is because
they are scared by their natures or traitors. If the Jew dwells in a
foreign land he is persecuted and expelled. If he wishes to return
>
hanson wrote:
... ahahahaha... But Lloyd, you sound like Netanyahu did when
he came to Washington. First he told Obama on the issue of
stealing land from the Palis (which ultimately brought 9/11 onto
the US) that "Settlements will NOT stop because they are the
NATURAL growth of Israel"... ahahaha... and when that Jew
view did not go over well with Obama, Netanyahu made a fast
180 and played the Jewish "virtuous victim" trick and said:
"Jews who have been exposed to pogroms and Holocausts
deserve & need a secure homeland for themselves"... ahahaha
>
That may be "true" from a Zionist point of view... But don't you
Lloyd and the rest of the fanatical kikes amongst you Jews ever
think that the way you go about it is not a very productive one?
>
Lloyd, you should also have pointed out that "Nobody is born
Anti-Semitic, but that Kikes are the sole teachers for it", like
this very fine and cultured Jewish Settler demonstrates here:
--------------- <http://tinyurl.com/mg6q5w> ----------------
if it is censured, check here: <http://tinyurl.com/nd2ff7>
>
Lloyd, you should learn for your own tribal past, because those
epic & collective ass-kicking & barbequings that you complain
about happened to your ilk 35 times so far. 1st God has chosen
you, then those Egyptians chose you... then everyone of those
cultures that your ilk has infested has chosen you. Here are the
details published by JEWISH scholars & sources:
< http://tinyurl.com/kvt867> & <http://tinyurl.com/knwr32>
>
Klaus Schadenfreude "Google Legal Team" <G...@google.gov>
retorts to Tom, wrote:
What Tom Potter does not tell you is that ANYONE will do the
know that you, Tom Potter, are a lying asshole and there is
nothing you will do about it.
>
The VAST majority of posters don't use any real identifying
would soon be more than swamped with whiny posters saying
thousands of times a day on USENET alone, and has for years.
3. Most of the posters here don't have any kind of stellar
reputations to begin with, would have a hard time proving
they were 'damaged' by any insult.
Google to release the identity of one of her insulters, it could
mean that Google is coming under more & more ZioNazi control
to silence criticism of all things Jewish -- I mean, it does make
cut its own throat.
>
John Q public" <my2c...@me.com> wrote:
Gee an anonymous poster being libeled by an anonymous
poster, the horror, people who don't know us or have any way
we know of of finding out who we are can libel me and I can
seek damages because people who don't know or care who
I am may get the wrong impression about me Its ludicrous
>
True, but all this is so fucking funny... and reminiscent of when a
federal law was passed afew years back with/for the same
"moral intent"... Then the same initial excitement occurred
and then nothing ever happened.....
>
I suspect that Google will drop the Usenet NGs in a few years,
since the Usenet is not frequented by prolific money spending
consumers ... but it is used for free by students, unemployables,
the infirm and the geriatric.
>
One can already see that Google has quit with providing acurate
quick searches and it has cut them back to less than a year into
the past ... and advanced searches further back in time do
return less and less precise results... all of which are moves
to save money for Google
------ The Usenet is an Albatross around Google's neck... -----.
>
But, carry on, guys. This is a wonderful thread to enjoy while
taking the morning shit... and it is very much reminiscent of
the intellectual level & content presented in the Mayberry
Barbershop atmosphere in the old Andy Griffith TV show
wherein Floyd, the barber and Barney Fife, the Deputy,do
talk politics with Goober and Gomer Pile... ahahaha
Thanks for the laughs, guys... hahahanson
Fred Brown
> have been smeared in the News Groups and BLOGS to seek civil damages by
> suing posters in the Civil Courts.
>
> I suggest that anyone who has been called nasty names in the News Groups
> to email Google and demand the names of the posters, and if the names are
> not forthcoming, to file claim in their local Small Claims court against
> Google for each action asking for the maximum damages, and pointing out
> during trials that Google has already yielded the point in a higher court.
Wrong. A libel or slander action would have to be entered
in a Circuit or Superior court. They are not handled in Small
Claims Courts and if you did file in Small Claims Court the
defendant's attorney would file a motion to move the trial to
Circuit Or Superior Court to perserve the defendant's right
to a trial by jury and the judge would have to grant the motion.
> Considering that most posts are made using Google Groups, folks who have
> been slandered stand to collect a lot of money, from the abuser, or from
> Google, if Google is not forthcoming in revealing the abuser's name.
Wrong, the majority of Usenet posts do not go through Google
and Google does not have access to the subscriber information
of the thousands of ISP who provide Usenet access.
Fred Brown
"Honest truth" <Honest...@Wisdom.net> wrote in message
news:hesxjg0sgplo.1n4bphl4le2ul$.dlg@40tude.net...
>
>> I suggest that anyone who has been called nasty names
>> in the News Groups to email Google and demand
>> the names of the posters, and if the names
>> are not forthcoming, to file claim in their
>> local Small Claims court against Google for each action
>> asking for the maximum damages,
>> and pointing out during trials that Google
>> has already yielded the point in a higher court.
>
>
> Google do release now the emails of the people that post to these group.
> Just call one post up and you will see the email address
Most of the e-mails are fake.
Fred Brown
Jews know how to kick ass and take names. Be prepared
for a visit from a Mossad hit team.
lorad
> As can be seen from the press,
> Google now makes it possible for
> folks who have been smeared in the News Groups
> and BLOGS to seek civil damages
> by suing posters in the Civil Courts.
>
> I suggest that anyone who has been called nasty names
> in the News Groups to email Google and demand
> the names of the posters, and if the names
> are not forthcoming, to file claim in their
> local Small Claims court against Google for each action
> asking for the maximum damages,
> and pointing out during trials that Google
> has already yielded the point in a higher court.
>
> Considering that most posts are made using Google Groups,
> folks who have been slandered stand to collect a lot of money,
> from the abuser, or from Google,
> if Google is not forthcoming in revealing the abuser's name.
>
> --
> Tom
What's your point?
Are you a lawyer or something?
Or just an enemy of free speech?
Fred Brown
"Google Legal Team" <G...@google.gov> wrote in message
news:s14a955k28lfmar5p...@4ax.com...
> In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <xpriv...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
>>As can be seen from the press,
>>Google now makes it possible for
>>folks who have been smeared in the News Groups
>>and BLOGS to seek civil damages
>>by suing posters in the Civil Courts.
>
> What Tom Potter does not tell you is that ANYONE will do the exact
> same thing when asked to do so by court order.
All a court or attorney can do is issue a subpoena and not all posters
are Google subscribers. If a subscriber's ISP reecieves a subpoena
they notify the subscriber and give them a chance to hire an attorney
to quash the subpoena.
>
>>I suggest that anyone who has been called nasty names
>>in the News Groups to email Google and demand
>>the names of the posters, and if the names
>>are not forthcoming, to file claim in their
>>local Small Claims court against Google for each action
>>asking for the maximum damages,
>>and pointing out during trials that Google
>>has already yielded the point in a higher court.
>
> We all know that you, Tom Potter, are a lying asshole and there is
> nothing you will do about it.
Sue him Tom, Sue him. He called you an asshole. Drag him into
court and prove you are not an asshole. Just hope he has not
archived all your posts. Wait a minute, Google has them. Oh, Oh!!
Fred Brown
You can't sue for libel or slander in a small claims court
as a rule and if you did all the defendant has to do is
request a jury trial and the case is transfered to Circuit
or Superior Court. Whole new ball game.
Expensive too.
last_per...@yahoo.com
> ><last_permutat...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
..and the non-Jew would be laughed out of the room.
Google Small Claims Team
>and that Google can be sent a message
>by filing claims in small claims courts,
Once again Potter lies. What claims have we filed in small claims
courts?
Name them.
The Huge Google Legal Team
>I am not bothered by people calling me names
>or attacking me personally,
Good, because you are the stupidest lying nazi fuck we here at Google
have ever run across in the History of the Internet.
>Some guys could pick up a few bucks by suing
>Goggle in a few Small Claims Courts,
You can't sue us in Small Claims Court, dumb ass.
First of all, have you seen Google Headquarters? Six giant buildings,
and three of them are nothing but lawyers.
Second of all, you can't bring a lawyer. We can. We're a corporation.
That means you're fucked.
Third of all, just go ahead and try to sue for your damaged reputation
in small claims court. The judge will laugh you out of court, and the
video of your humiliation will be on You Tube within minutes.
EverOnlyNice
> As can be seen from the press,
> Google now makes it possible for
> folks who have been smeared in the News Groups
> and BLOGS to seek civil damages
> by suing posters in the Civil Courts.
>
> in the News Groups to email Google and demand
> the names of the posters, and if the names
> are not forthcoming, to file claim in their
> local Small Claims court against Google for each action
> asking for the maximum damages,
> and pointing out during trials that Google
> has already yielded the point in a higher court.
>
> folks who have been slandered stand to collect a lot of money,
> from the abuser, or from Google,
> if Google is not forthcoming in revealing the abuser's name.
>
> Tom Potterhttp://tdp1001.spaces.live.com/http://www.tompotter.us/misc.htmlhttp://webspace.webring.com/people/st/tdp1001/http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.comhttp://tdp1001.wiki.zoho.com
so there!
Tom Potter
"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in message
news:kgdlm.976$FV4...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
If Google plans to drop Usenet,
why have they put so much effort into
programming Google Groups,
and why are they working so hard to hijack Usenet?
What people post about,
and what people post about themselves and others
is a great source of information for anyone who
has aspirations beyond advertising dollars.
Note that the Mass Media of the 1900's,
first captured the attention of the public
( Concentrate on the shiny coin I hold in my hand... )
then they cast themselves to be harmless and comforting.
( You are feeling very sleepy. A pleasant feeling of
sleepiness is coming over you..)
and then they get to the bottom line.
( You wallet is very hot.
It is burning a hole in your pocket.
Take your wallet out and throw it on the floor..)
Face the facts hanson.
Some people, and some groups,
do things today for the big killing in the future.
Already Google knows more about all of out
elected officials than their families do,
and they can "launder" the information
and feed it to an apparently unrelated source
in order to control vulnerable politicians,
and to entrap and blackmail vulnerable private citizens,
as the Jewish guy did when he stalked and seduced the
richest German lady, and blackmailed her for
millions of dollars.
Google's motto "Do no evil."
is a great con job.
Google has already demonstrated that they cannot be trusted.
--
Tom Potter
http://tdp1001.spaces.live.com/
http://www.tompotter.us/misc.html
http://webspace.webring.com/people/st/tdp1001/
http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com
http://tdp1001.wiki.zoho.com
http://www.natscience.com/Uwe/Misc/SR.aspx?p=%22tom+potter%22&sourceid=Mozilla-search
Tom Potter
"The Huge Google Legal Team" <HG...@google.gov> wrote in message
news:prjb959ts94q3milo...@4ax.com...
I am pleased to see that "The Huge Google Legal Team"
is concerned about their "Iron rice bowl",
is are assisting me in encouraging folks who have been
called nasty names in Google Groups,
to sue Google in Small Claim Courts
all over the world.
Suing Google now
and getting either money or the name of someone
would be like shooting fish in a barrel,
as they rolled over and played dead,
when a Jewish "ho"
and a New York Judge "forced" Google (ha aha ha ha aahaha..)
them to reveal the real name of the person who
called the "ho" a "ho".
For the not so experienced,
here's what you need to do.
1. File a claim in the local Small Claims Court
for the maximum amount of damages.
2. Note the names you have been called in
Google Groups, and list URL references.
3. Point out that Google has already
established a precedence in revealing the
name of a poster
4. Point out that what you were called is
much worse than being called a "ho".
5. Demand Google pay damages and reveal the
real name of the poster who slandered you.
It would be nice if thousands of folks
sued Google in Small Claims Courts,
as this would provide my pals
"The Huge Google Legal Team"
the "Iron rice bowl" they crave,
and best of all,
it would force Google to treat
all races and religions the same
when it came to protecting their identity,
and it puts the heat on the sociopaths who attack
messengers, rather than address messages
in a rational, intelligent, MORAL way.
Help "The Huge Google Legal Team"
get their "Iron rice bowl".
File a Small Claim against Google today.
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Tom Potter
>"EverOnlyNice" <everon...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:493b61f2-ccf1-4470...@k30g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>On Aug 26, 1:19 am, "Tom Potter" <xprivatn...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>> As can be seen from the press,
>> Google now makes it possible for
>> folks who have been smeared in the News Groups
>> and BLOGS to seek civil damages
>> by suing posters in the Civil Courts.
>>
>> I suggest that anyone who has been called nasty names
>> in the News Groups to email Google and demand
>> the names of the posters, and if the names
>> are not forthcoming, to file claim in their
>> local Small Claims court against Google for each action
>> asking for the maximum damages,
>> and pointing out during trials that Google
>> has already yielded the point in a higher court.
>>
>> Considering that most posts are made using Google Groups,
>> folks who have been slandered stand to collect a lot of money,
>> from the abuser, or from Google,
>> if Google is not forthcoming in revealing the abuser's name.
>>
>> --
>> Tom
>
SO THERE!
Tom Potter
>"PD" <thedrap...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:f14c5f71-62cc-4474...@s13g2000yql.googlegroups.com...
>On Aug 26, 12:19 am, "Tom Potter" <xprivatn...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>> As can be seen from the press,
>> Google now makes it possible for
>> folks who have been smeared in the News Groups
>> and BLOGS to seek civil damages
>> by suing posters in the Civil Courts.
>>
>> I suggest that anyone who has been called nasty names
>> in the News Groups to email Google and demand
>> the names of the posters, and if the names
>> are not forthcoming, to file claim in their
>> local Small Claims court against Google for each action
>> asking for the maximum damages,
>> and pointing out during trials that Google
>> has already yielded the point in a higher court.
>>
>> Considering that most posts are made using Google Groups,
>> folks who have been slandered stand to collect a lot of money,
>> from the abuser, or from Google,
>> if Google is not forthcoming in revealing the abuser's name.
>>
>> --
>> Tom Potter
>Feel free to add me to your list for calling you a simpering, thin-
>skinned whiner with delusions of persecution.
Feel free to add me to your list for calling you a bigoted clown
with an inferiority complex and lousy reading comprehension,
who is stupid to comprehend that I was not "whining" about
"persecution", I was making the point that Google
has a race/religion bias, and cannot be trusted
to proved honest searches and "do no evil".
To see how PD compensates for his inferiority complex,
by using sock puppets to give himself
five star ratings in the newsgroup posts,
take a look at the thread:
"How to spot sociopaths in the newsgroups"
Tom Potter
"Fred Brown" <fred...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:4a956b1d$0$7657$bb4e...@newscene.com...
I'm after bigger game
than suing and collecting money from
the sociopathic deadbeats who attack messengers
rather than address messages in a rational, intelligent, MORAL way.
I am after Google, and politicians and government employees
and Jews and bigots who try to control the flow of information
so they can pursue their selfish agendas.
Regarding "Fred Brown's" comment
"Just hope he has not archived all your posts."
As my Pappy used to say:
You get better information from the horse's mouth
than you do from a horse's ass."
and certainly you get better information from the horse's mouth
than you do from inferences by dishonest people
who try to discredit messengers with lies, half truths and inferences.
Why settle for inferesnce from a horse's ass when you can
click on the URLs below and get information about "Tom Potter"
straight from the horse's mouth.
Note that natscience is a much better Usenet search engine than Google,
as Google "cooks the books" and displays posts in strange hodge-podge ways,
in their effort to obfuscate,
rather than to enlighten.
http://www.natscience.com/Uwe/Misc/SR.aspx?p=%22tom+potter%22&sourceid=Mozilla-search
Tom Potter
My pal "Fred Brown" makes a good point.
I just hope when the "Mossad hit team" visits me,
that they don't take my vital organs
and transplant them in some Jew
as the following news story indicates.
that they do to young Palestinians.
The following URL is a picture of a young Palestinian
after his vital organs were removed.
http://www.aljazeera.net/mritems/Images/2009/8/24/1_936082_1_23.jpg
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Tom Potter
"lorad" <lora...@cs.com> wrote in message
news:870aeaff-e82c-4d39...@h21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
Regarding "lorad's" questions:
"What's your point?
Are you a lawyer or something?
Or just an enemy of free speech?"
1. I suggest that if lorad reads my posts.,
(And understands them.)
he will see that I am one of the most aggressive
defenders of free speech on the Internet.
2. I am not a 'lawyer", I am a "something"
concerned with preventing
companies like Google who claim to "do no evil"
from conning folks and "doing evil".
3. My point is that Google has already demonstrated
in many ways that they have a race/religion biased agenda,
and that they "cook the books" on their searches,
and are a threat to "free speech" and democracy
as the Mass Media was during the last one hundred years.
Note that Google is highjacking Usenet,
the last, world-wide forum dedicated to free speech,
and becoming the self-appointed moderator
of all posts.
Note that they:
1. Control the most comprehensive data base.
2. They control who can access the information.
3. The "cook the books" on the information presented.
4. They censor posters who express ideas and opinions
that the Google Manage does not want the public exposed to.
5. Google goes farther and smears the posters it censors
by boldly declaring that they have been "BANNED".
6. When one pursues an aggressive line of research
in certain areas, Google shuts off the research with the message:
==========
"Error
We're sorry...
... but your query looks similar to automated requests from a computer
virus or spyware application. To protect our users, we can't process your
request right now."
=========
My point?
Google is dishonest, "cooks the books", inhibits free speech
and cannot be trusted to "do no evil".
Tom Potter
I doubt that Google would transfer numerous Small Claims cases
to higher courts, rather than either revealing the names,
or cutting their losses at the Small Claims level.
If even 100 folks sued Google in Small Claims Courts,
and Google transferred all of the cases to higher courts,
it would cost them a lot of money,
and even folks handling their own cases
before juries, would win a good share of the cases.
A web site could be set up to tell folks
how to handle their own cases.
1. Don't say too much.
2. Point out that in the New York case,
Google revealed the person's name.
3. Show examples of where one has been
called names worse than "ho".
4. Sit down, look sad, and shut up.
Tom Potter
>
> "Tom Potter" <xpriv...@mailinator.com> wrote in message
> news:4a94...@news.x-privat.org...
>> As can be seen from the press, Google now makes it possible for folks who
>> have been smeared in the News Groups and BLOGS to seek civil damages by
>> suing posters in the Civil Courts.
>>
>> I suggest that anyone who has been called nasty names in the News Groups
>> to email Google and demand the names of the posters, and if the names are
>> not forthcoming, to file claim in their local Small Claims court against
>> Google for each action asking for the maximum damages, and pointing out
>> during trials that Google has already yielded the point in a higher
>> court.
>
> Wrong. A libel or slander action would have to be entered
> in a Circuit or Superior court. They are not handled in Small
> Claims Courts and if you did file in Small Claims Court the
> defendant's attorney would file a motion to move the trial to
> Circuit Or Superior Court to perserve the defendant's right
> to a trial by jury and the judge would have to grant the motion.
>
>> Considering that most posts are made using Google Groups, folks who have
>> been slandered stand to collect a lot of money, from the abuser, or from
>> Google, if Google is not forthcoming in revealing the abuser's name.
>
> Wrong, the majority of Usenet posts do not go through Google
> and Google does not have access to the subscriber information
> of the thousands of ISP who provide Usenet access.
Jeff Relf indicates that sci.physics posters are posting by:
1. 2,001 315 Google Groups �?. 2,001 posts from 315 people.
2. 660 131 Outlook �?. Reads raw UTF-8 titles, optionally writes
3. 369 51 ThunderBird, iceDove �?. writes raw UTF-8 titles
4. 223 53 F. Agent, all versions �?. poor|no UTF-8 support
5. 140 14 Mozilla �?. like t-Bird, I think.
6. 131 14 Pan �?. reads/writes UTF-8 titles
7. 46 15 NewsWatcher
8. 35 3 tin
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The Huge Google Legal Team
>
>"The Huge Google Legal Team" <HG...@google.gov> wrote in message
>news:prjb959ts94q3milo...@4ax.com...
>> In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <xpriv...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I am not bothered by people calling me names
>>>or attacking me personally,
>>
>> Good, because you are the stupidest lying nazi fuck we here at Google
>> have ever run across in the History of the Internet.
>>>Some guys could pick up a few bucks by suing
>>>Goggle in a few Small Claims Courts,
>>
>> You can't sue us in Small Claims Court, dumb ass.
>>
>> First of all, have you seen Google Headquarters? Six giant buildings,
>> and three of them are nothing but lawyers.
>>
>> Second of all, you can't bring a lawyer. We can. We're a corporation.
>> That means you're fucked.
>>
>> Third of all, just go ahead and try to sue for your damaged reputation
>> in small claims court. The judge will laugh you out of court, and the
>> video of your humiliation will be on You Tube within minutes.
>
>I am pleased to see that "The Huge Google Legal Team"
>is concerned about their "Iron rice bowl",
Whatever the fuck that is
>File a Small Claim against Google today.
You don't read so good, do you old man?
The Huge Google Legal Team
PD
> >"PD" <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Well, I see you are as good with internet sleuthing as you are with
science, with the added flavor of paranoia to boot.
Fred Brown
Why blame the Jews? It was the White Anglo Saxon Protestants
that kept the minorities down, the Irish, French, Germans, Eastern
Europeans all relegated to low paying jobs in the WASP factories
so the WASPS could get rich.
The people who whine about the Jews are too lazy to take business
risks like the Jews do and reap the financial rewards. The world id
full of lazey people who think they are entitled to other people's
wealth.
Fred Brown
A person representing himself in court has a fool for a client.
> A web site could be set up to tell folks
> how to handle their own cases.
>
> 1. Don't say too much.
> 2. Point out that in the New York case,
> Google revealed the person's name.
> 3. Show examples of where one has been
> called names worse than "ho".
> 4. Sit down, look sad, and shut up.
First of all few people post using their real name and other
identifying information that would qualify them to sue for libel.
My name is not Fred Brown and I doubt your real name is Tom
Potter so we can insult each other to our hearts content and
neither has grounds to sue.
Fred Brown
"The Huge Google Legal Team" <HG...@google.gov> wrote in message
news:prjb959ts94q3milo...@4ax.com...
>
>
>>I am not bothered by people calling me names
>>or attacking me personally,
>
> Good, because you are the stupidest lying nazi fuck we here at Google
> have ever run across in the History of the Internet.
>>Some guys could pick up a few bucks by suing
>>Goggle in a few Small Claims Courts,
>
> You can't sue us in Small Claims Court, dumb ass.
>
> First of all, have you seen Google Headquarters? Six giant buildings,
> and three of them are nothing but lawyers.
>
> Second of all, you can't bring a lawyer. We can. We're a corporation.
> That means you're fucked.
Yes, a defendant or a plaintiff CAN be represented by an attorney in
Small Claims Court.
> Third of all, just go ahead and try to sue for your damaged reputation
> in small claims court. The judge will laugh you out of court, and the
> video of your humiliation will be on You Tube within minutes.
Small Claims Courts generally don't allow video taping of the proceedings.
Fred Brown
So, your stats cover only one newsgroup, proves nothing.
Honest truth
> "Honest truth" <Honest...@Wisdom.net> wrote in message
> news:hesxjg0sgplo.1n4bphl4le2ul$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:19:28 +0800, Tom Potter wrote:
>>
>>> I suggest that anyone who has been called nasty names
>>> in the News Groups to email Google and demand
>>> the names of the posters, and if the names
>>> are not forthcoming, to file claim in their
>>> local Small Claims court against Google for each action
>>> asking for the maximum damages,
>>> and pointing out during trials that Google
>>> has already yielded the point in a higher court.
>>
>>
>> Google do release now the emails of the people that post to these group.
>> Just call one post up and you will see the email address
>
> Most of the e-mails are fake.
Indeed and/or anonymous webmail
Androcles
Do not reply to this generic message, it was automatically generated;
you have been kill-filed, either for being boringly stupid, repetitive,
unfunny, ineducable, repeatedly posting politics, religion or off-topic
subjects to a sci. newsgroup, attempting cheapskate free advertising
for profit, because you are a troll, simply insane or any combination
or permutation of the aforementioned reasons; any reply will go unread.
Boringly stupid is the most common cause of kill-filing, but because
this message is generic the other reasons have been included. You are
left to decide which is most applicable to you.
There is no appeal, I have despotic power over whom I will electronically
admit into my home and you do not qualify as a reasonable person I would
wish to converse with or even poke fun at. Some weirdoes are not kill-
filed, they amuse me and I retain them for their entertainment value
as I would any chicken with two heads, either one of which enables the
dumb bird to scratch dirt, step back, look down, step forward to the
same spot and repeat the process eternally.
This should not trouble you, many of those plonked find it a blessing
that they are not required to think and can persist in their bigotry
or crackpot theories without challenge.
You have the right to free speech, I have the right not to listen. The
kill-file will be cleared annually with spring cleaning or whenever I
purchase a new computer or hard drive.
I hope you find this explanation is satisfactory but even if you don't,
damnly my frank, I don't give a dear. Have a nice day.
"Honest truth" <Honest...@Wisdom.net> wrote in message
news:11xtdm0d383ry$.lm0231au38xi.dlg@40tude.net...
> On 26 Aug 2009 11:57:02 -0500, Fred Brown wrote:
>
>> "Honest truth" <Honest...@Wisdom.net> wrote in message
>> news:hesxjg0sgplo.1n4bphl4le2ul$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:19:28 +0800, Tom Potter wrote:
>>>
>>>> I suggest that anyone who has been called nasty names
>>>> in the News Groups to email Google and demand
>>>> the names of the posters, and if the names
>>>> are not forthcoming, to file claim in their
>>>> local Small Claims court against Google for each action
>>>> asking for the maximum damages,
>>>> and pointing out during trials that Google
>>>> has already yielded the point in a higher court.
>>>
>>>
>>> Google do release now the emails of the people that post to these group.
>>> Just call one post up and you will see the email address
>>
>> Most of the e-mails are fake.
>
> Indeed and/or anonymous webmail
>
>
>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ��Of all the extreme fanaticism which plays havoc in man��s nature,
>>> there
>>> is
>>> not one as irrational as anti-Semitism. �K If the Jews are rich [these
>>> fanatics] are victims of theft. If they are poor, they are victims of
>>> ridicule. If they take sides in a war, it is because they wish to take
>>> advantage from the spilling of non-Jewish blood. If they espouse peace,
>>> it
>>> is because they are scared by their natures or traitors. If the Jew
>>> dwells
>>> in a foreign land he is persecuted and expelled. If he wishes to return
>>> to
>>> his own land, he is prevented from doing so.��
>>>
>>> Lloyd George
>
>
> --
> ��Of all the extreme fanaticism which plays havoc in man��s nature, there
> is
> not one as irrational as anti-Semitism. �K If the Jews are rich [these
> fanatics] are victims of theft. If they are poor, they are victims of
> ridicule. If they take sides in a war, it is because they wish to take
> advantage from the spilling of non-Jewish blood. If they espouse peace, it
> is because they are scared by their natures or traitors. If the Jew dwells
> in a foreign land he is persecuted and expelled. If he wishes to return to
> his own land, he is prevented from doing so.��
>
> Lloyd George
Androcles
"Fred Brown" <fred...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:4a96ac72$0$273$bb4e...@newscene.com...
zzbu...@netscape.net
wrote:
> In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <xprivatn...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
> >I am not bothered by people calling me names
> >or attacking me personally,
>
> Good, because you are the stupidest lying nazi fuck we here at Google
> have ever run across in the History of the Internet.
>
> >Some guys could pick up a few bucks by suing
> >Goggle in a few Small Claims Courts,
>
> You can't sue us in Small Claims Court, dumb ass.
>
> First of all, have you seen Google Headquarters? Six giant buildings,
> and three of them are nothing but lawyers.
Well, that's why Google is Google. Since when the only thing
you even know about computers is Lawyers, your case is
automatically
throw in to idiot Qwerty Court with the IBMers.
The people with post Q-card Brains work on HDTV, Flat Screen, On-
Line Publishing,
Electronic Books, Laser Disk Libaries, Blue Ray, External Hard
Disks, PGP, Fiber Optics, USB,
non Vacuum Tube Computation, Atomic Clock Writwatches, Light
Sticks, Self-Replicating Machines,
All-In-One Printers, Post Xerox Toner, Post AT&T Barcodes,
Distributed Processing Software,
Pv Cells, Holograms, Post LED Math, and Self-Assembling Robots.
tankfixer
says...
> I am after Google, and politicians and government employees
> and Jews and bigots who try to control the flow of information
> so they can pursue their selfish agendas.
>
Why not just cut to the chase and emulate your hero and eat a bullet ?
Tom Potter
Tom Potter
As can be seen,
Google not only "cooks the books"
and promotes a race/religion biased agenda,
but they hire stupid lawyers.
As can be seen,
"The Huge Google Legal Team" is ignorant of the facts:
1. That corporations with "Six giant buildings"
can be sued in Small Claims Courts.
2, The Judges in Small Claims Courts
are generally elected by local citizens
and are very careful not to irritate the citizens,
as it might cost them their jobs.
3. Most Small Claims Courts don't allow TV cameras in the courtroom.
4. Anyone can have a lawyer represent them
in a Small Claims Court, and individuals and proprietorships
frequently have lawyers appear for them in Small Claims Courts.
5. Large Corporations generally default on small claims
as it is too costly for them to have lawyers handle a small claim.
But cut to the chase.
Google cannot be trusted as the "cook the books",
and are high jacking Usenet,
and setting themselves up as the sole moderator.
Obviously, like the Mass Media in the last hundred years,
Google has ulterior motives that are not in the best
interest of the larger society.
Considering that Google knows our elected officials
better than their own families, it is likely that now,
and in the future, that Google will be feeding
information to third parties to bring pressure on
government officials to line the pockets of
Google and its' friends, and to promote
Google's race/religion biased agenda.
In five years, Google will have enough of our
officials under control, that they cannot be stopped
from trashing our culture and stealing our assets.
The handwriting is clearly on the wall,
for those who take the time to look and think.
Google is the greatest threat to free speech,
democratic government, and eventually freedom,
since the New York Times, Washington Post,
Time Inc and the Hearst news Papers,
conned the masses and intimidated the public officials
during the 1900''s.
Tom Potter
Another *** 5 STAR *** Google Groups post from PD!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations PD!
I should point out to newbies
that PD used to give himself 5 STARS for one line personal attacks,
until I called attention to his inferiority complex.
PD shows his Google Groups rating to his spouse, and says:
"Hey look Bruce. Another 5 STAR post."
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Tom Potter
Hopefully Jeff Relf will do an analysis
to see if posters to alt.politics
post using Google Groups.
As freedom and free speech lovers know,
Google Management MODERATES Google Groups
and promotes a race/religion biased agenda,
and it would be a great blow against free speech,
liberty, and honesty, if Google is able to
control forums used by large numbers of people.
Considering the before Google bought DejaNews,
newsgroup searches were fast, clearly presented,
and ordered exactly how you expected them to be,
and Google not only BANS undesired posters from
using the former DejaNews engine to post and search,
but they have turned the newsgroup archives
into a quasi-random soup
designed to obfuscate, restrict free speech,
and brainwash researchers to their race biased agenda.
Tom Potter
Considering that the wealth of America was
generated by the vision and works of Henry Ford
who invent modern manufacturing and marketing,
Thomas Edison who invented, produced and marketed
audio and video recording, and switched America and the world
from water power to electric power,
and Andrew Carnegie, a self educated child laborer
who switched the world from horse drawn devices
to railroads, with his railroads, and steel mills
that turned out rails, bridges, steel framed skyscrapers,
railroad cars, etc.
and that much of this wealth has gone into the hands of
Ponzi Scammers like Madoff and Lehman,
more by manipulation than by vision, sweat, blood and tears,
one has to wonder why "Fred Brown" asserts that non Jews
"are too lazy to take business risks like the Jews do
and reap the financial rewards."
It is interesting to see that after Spain told Jews to
shape up or ship out, Spain became the most powerful
nation on the planet, only to be brought down
when the huge Armada sent to punish the English
pirates who were plundering Spanish shipping,
was destroyed mostly by a "divine wind",
and it is interesting to see that after the German people
told Jews to shape up or ship out,
Germany, which was the most depressed nation in
Europe, quickly propelled itself out of the Great Depression
( That was brought on by Jews who were instigating Class Wars
all over the world, and destroying economies.)
and Germany became the most dynamic, productive and powerful
nation on the planet,
and note that after the Jews who controlled most of the
key government positions in Russia,
realized that their Class Wars were not going to succeed,
and instituted the phony "Free Jews" scam,
and migrated to America and Israel
ate the expense of the American taxpayers,
Russia began far more free, open, productive and wealthy.
And of course, anyone with their eyes open
can see what has happened to America
since the intelligent, risk taking, productive Jews
came into power positions in American government and industry.
--
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Tom Potter
Thanks to my pal Fred Brown for calling attention
to the fact that folks, like me,
who use their real names,
can sue for damages.
And of course, unlike the propagandists and cowards
who use phony names, folks who use their real names
put their lives, limbs, resources, and reputations
on the line, and can be trusted.
I personally am not interested in suing,
nor am I concerned about the fact that
bigots, racists, propagandists and sociopaths
attack me personally,
but I AM CONCERNED about the fact
that most folks are intimidated by the
bigots, racists, propagandists and sociopaths
and this not only generates much conflict
and wastes resources,
but more importantly it inhibits free speech.
I am also concerned with the fact that
Jews have institutionalize bigotry,
and aggressively and systematically
gang bang folks with bigotry,
in an effort to bias the flow of information.
The definition of "bigot" is:
"A prejudiced person who is intolerant
of any opinions differing from his own."
To read the stories of a few of the many folks
who have been victims of Institutionalized bigotry
visit the web site below.
<http://www.zundelsite.org/english/debate/victims/index.html>
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The Huge Google Legal Team
Not with any hope of winning, and not for defamation of character.
>2, The Judges in Small Claims Courts
>are generally elected by local citizens
>and are very careful not to irritate the citizens,
>as it might cost them their jobs.
They don't worry about irritating local nut cases like yourself.
>4. Anyone can have a lawyer represent them
>in a Small Claims Court, and individuals and proprietorships
>frequently have lawyers appear for them in Small Claims Courts.
Can I bring a lawyer?
No, a lawyer can't represent you in court. But you can talk to a
lawyer before or after court.
http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/selfhelp/smallclaims/scbasics.htm#bringlawyer
>5. Large Corporations generally default on small claims
>as it is too costly for them to have lawyers handle a small claim.
You're lying, as usual.
>But cut to the chase.
>
>Google cannot be trusted as the "cook the books",
>and are high jacking Usenet,
>and setting themselves up as the sole moderator.
Once again, we say you're a lying fuckwad. You can't sue us, because
you know (a) we have the proof and (b) you'd lose everything you hold
dear if you tried.
When you tell people they should sue, but then you don't do it
yourself.......
The Huge Google Legal Team
>
>"The Huge Google Legal Team" <HG...@google.gov> wrote in message
>news:1nnc95dtdn7k0l2co...@4ax.com...
>> In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <xpriv...@mailinator.com> wrote:
We know you're a psycho no matter where you post from.
___________________
"The cops in China are unarmed, do not wear dark sunglasses
and do not spend most of their time operating speed traps. It is
interesting to see that there are about 40,000 policemen in New York
and about 800 in Beijing"
- Delirious China "expert" Tom Potter
Tom Potter
"tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.2500e79...@news.bytemine.net...
It is interesting to see that "tankfixer"
asserts that Thomas Jefferson "ate a bullet",
and suggest that I should do likewise.
Perhaps "tankfixer" is a bigot,
who is all bent out of shape,
because I take stands against race/religion biased bigots
that use Institutionalized Bigotry in their selfish effort
to control the flow of information.
For example note how Institutionalized Bigotry
is being used to physically threaten the newspaper reporter
who wrote the story about the Palestinian families
who claim that Israel was intruding into Gaza,
wounding young Palestinians,
taking them into Israel for "treatment"
and returning their bodies to their families
a few days later missing a few body organs,
and is being used to sue the newpaper for millions of
dollars in a friendly New York Court,
and is being used to slander the Swedish people ,
who along with the German people are probanbly the
most inteligent, most moral folks on the planet,
and is being used by Israel to restrict press coverage
by Swedes in Israel even more,
and is being used by Israel to wage diplomatic war
against Sweden,
etc.
The definition of "bigot" is:
"A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his
own."
To read the stories of a few of the many folks
who, like the Swedes and Germans,
have been victims of Institutionalized bigotry
visit the web site below.
<http://www.zundelsite.org/english/debate/victims/index.html>
Note that bigots like "tankfixer"
would put a bullet in the mouth of the messenger,
rather than address the message in a
honest, intelligent, rational, MORAL way.
--
Tom Potter
http://tdp1001.spaces.live.com/
http://www.tompotter.us/misc.html
http://webspace.webring.com/people/st/tdp1001/
http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com
http://tdp1001.wiki.zoho.com
http://www.natscience.com/Uwe/Misc/SR.aspx?p=%22tom+potter%22&sourceid=Mozilla-search
EverOnlyNice
> In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <xprivatn...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
> >As can be seen from the press,
> >Google now makes it possible for
> >folks who have been smeared in the News Groups
> >and BLOGS to seek civil damages
> >by suing posters in the Civil Courts.
>
> same thing when asked to do so by court order.
>
> >in the News Groups to email Google and demand
> >the names of the posters, and if the names
> >are not forthcoming, to file claim in their
> >local Small Claims court against Google for each action
> >asking for the maximum damages,
> >and pointing out during trials that Google
> >has already yielded the point in a higher court.
>
> nothing you will do about it.
EITHER YOU PROVE YOU ARE PART OF THE GOOGLE LEGAL TEAM, PUNK, OR YOU
SHUT THE HELL UP!
FAIR ENOUGH? I DONE AND BUMRUSHED YOU NOW BOI, AND YOU ARE NOW PWNED
AS A RESULT, BOITOI!
EverOnlyNice
> In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <xprivatn...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
> >by filing claims in small claims courts,
>
> courts?
>
> Name them.
well, to give you an idea of what all these companies like yahoo,
google, et. al are up against......
the people from yahoo have been told that many of their users have
been ping flooding other people off the internet. not only is that a
violation of US law, and the law of many other countries, but it is
also a civil rights violation.
just how is it a civil rights violation, you may well ask?
because.... 1) violation of the first amendment to the constitution
AND 2) the freedom of people to feel confident about their well being
AND 3) the freedom of Americans to be able to freely associate with
those they prefer to associate with.
now, the complaint about the ping flooding has been brought to the
attentions of not only IC3 and the FBI, and the PROOF it is a
violation of international law, but the BIG, FAT, UGLY, STUPID LOSERS
AT IC3 AND FBI HAVE NOT YET DONE ANYTHING ABOUT IT. AS SUCH, THEY
INDICATE THEY DO NOT FEEL AS IF ANY LAWS HAVE BEEN BROKEN - AND THEY
ARE SO VERY WRONG ON THAT COUNT! ANNDDDDDDD...WELL, NO ONE FROM
EITHER YAHOO, IC3, OR THE FBI NEED TO COME COMPLAIN TO ANYONE WHEN
THEIR MACHINES START GETTING PING FLOODED OFF OF NETWORKS. YAHOO,
IC3, AND THE FBI, BY THEIR INACTION, AND FOR THEIR FAILURES TO DO
THEIR GODDAMNIT JOBS, HAVE LEFT THEM OPEN TO WHATEVER 'COMES AROUND'.
THOSE BIG FAT, UGLY, STUPID, OVERWEIGHT, DIABETIC FOOLS AND INFIDELS
AT YAHOO, IC3, AND THE FBI FOR FAILING TO DO THEIR JOBS, FFS, AND STOP
THESE ABROGATIONS OF FEDERAL AND, YES, INTERNATIONAL LAW.
EVERY LAW DAWG PIGGYS CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING NOW.. I DUMBED
IT DOWN ENOUGH FOR THOSE FOOLISH AMERICAN INFIDELS TO BE ABLE TO
UNDERSTAND IT, FFS!
EverOnlyNice
> ><last_permutat...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:0446931e-f880-415e...@z24g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> >On Aug 26, 1:19 am, "Tom Potter" <xprivatn...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> >> As can be seen from the press,
> >> Google now makes it possible for
> >> folks who have been smeared in the News Groups
> >> and BLOGS to seek civil damages
> >> by suing posters in the Civil Courts.
>
> >identifying information about themselves.
>
> >2. Even if they did, the courts would soon be more
> >than swamped with whiny posters saying "he called
> >me a bad name" wah wah, considering this happens
> >many thousands of times a day on USENET alone,
> >and has for years.
>
> >3. Most of the posters here don't have any kind of
> >stellar reputations to begin with, would have a hard
> >time proving they were 'damaged' by any insult.
>
> >> in the News Groups to email Google and demand
> >> the names of the posters, and if the names
> >> are not forthcoming, to file claim in their
> >> local Small Claims court against Google for each action
> >> asking for the maximum damages,
> >> and pointing out during trials that Google
> >> has already yielded the point in a higher court.
>
>
> >> Considering that most posts are made using Google Groups,
> >> folks who have been slandered stand to collect a lot of money,
> >> from the abuser, or from Google,
> >> if Google is not forthcoming in revealing the abuser's name.
>
> >I guess, since there was that recent case of the Jew getting Google
> >to release the identity of one of her insulters, it could mean
> >that Google is coming under more & more ZioNazi control
> >to silence criticism of all things Jewish--I mean, it does make
> >sense--but if these kinds of indicators continue, Google will
> >cut its own throat.
>
> or attacking me personally,
> excuse to make some moral point.
>
> I am bothered by Goggle's obvious race/religion bias,
> and their "cooking of the books",
>
> and the point you mentioned
> was EXACTLY the point I was trying to make.
>
> The is Google again demonstrated their
> race/religion bias, by quickly capitulating
> to a Jewish "ho" in the courtroom
> of a New York Judge.
>
> No doubt, if a Muslim sued Google to
> find out the names of posters calling
> him a "Raghead", or if some Christian
> sued Google to find out the names of
> people calling him a "Nazi" or "Hitlerite"
> Google would take the case to the Supreme Court.
>
> Regarding your comment:
>
> "proving they were 'damaged' by any insult",
> if many people began suing Google in Small Claims Courts,
> it would cost them millions to defend all of the cases,
> and they would clean up their act,
>
> and of course, Small Claim Judges
> are voted in by the local citizens,
> and their judgments cannot be appealed.
>
> Some guys could pick up a few bucks by suing
> Goggle in a few Small Claims Courts,
> a lawyer to defend the action.
>
> --
> Tom Potterhttp://tdp1001.spaces.live.com/http://www.tompotter.us/misc.htmlhttp://webspace.webring.com/people/st/tdp1001/http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.comhttp://tdp1001.wiki.zoho.com- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
NOR SHOULD YOU BE SCARED OF ANYONE TOM, BECAUSE WE ARE BACKING YOUR
SLACK, AGAINST ANY
AND ALL COMERS!
EverOnlyNice
wrote:
> In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <xprivatn...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >"The Huge Google Legal Team" <H...@google.gov> wrote in message
> >news:prjb959ts94q3milo...@4ax.com...
> >> In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <xprivatn...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
> >>>I am not bothered by people calling me names
> >>>or attacking me personally,
>
> >> Good, because you are the stupidest lying nazi fuck we here at Google
> >> have ever run across in the History of the Internet.
> >>>Some guys could pick up a few bucks by suing
> >>>Goggle in a few Small Claims Courts,
>
> >> You can't sue us in Small Claims Court, dumb ass.
>
> >> First of all, have you seen Google Headquarters? Six giant buildings,
> >> and three of them are nothing but lawyers.
>
> >> Second of all, you can't bring a lawyer. We can. We're a corporation.
> >> That means you're fucked.
>
> >> Third of all, just go ahead and try to sue for your damaged reputation
> >> in small claims court. The judge will laugh you out of court, and the
> >> video of your humiliation will be on You Tube within minutes.
>
> >I am pleased to see that "The Huge Google Legal Team"
> >is concerned about their "Iron rice bowl",
>
> Whatever the fuck that is
>
> >File a Small Claim against Google today.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
YOU AIN'T A'GOIN' TO BE DOING SHIT LAW FUCKEN PUPPY DAWG PUKE!
EverOnlyNice
> "The Huge Google Legal Team" <H...@google.gov> wrote in messagenews:rjnc951j9kbcvcclq...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <xprivatn...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
> >>"The Huge Google Legal Team" <H...@google.gov> wrote in message
> >>news:prjb959ts94q3milo...@4ax.com...
>
> - Show quoted text -
YOU TELL 'EM TOM..DON'T LET THEM EVEN TRY TO TRAMPLE YOUR RIGHTS. WE
ARE SO GODDAMNIT TIRED
OF HOW OUR FUCKEN GUBMIINT MISSERVES US, AND, YES, THOSE GOATISH FOOLS
WHO WORK IN THOSE
OVERPAID GUBMINT JOBS NEED TO HAVE THEIR JOBS, AND YES, THEIR
LIVELIHOODS TAKEN FROM THEM.
AND THAT BE DA TRUTH!
Klaus Schadenfreude
>
>"tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:MPG.2500e79...@news.bytemine.net...
>> In article <4a96...@news.x-privat.org>, xpriv...@mailinator.com
>> says...
>>> I am after Google, and politicians and government employees
>>> and Jews and bigots who try to control the flow of information
>>> so they can pursue their selfish agendas.
>>
>> Why not just cut to the chase and emulate your hero and eat a bullet ?
>
>It is interesting to see that "tankfixer"
>asserts that Thomas Jefferson "ate a bullet",
>and suggest that I should do likewise.
He was probably referring to Hitler, not Jefferson.
Google Small Claims Team
>On Aug 26, 8:02�pm, Google Small Claims Team <G...@google.gov> wrote:
>> In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <xprivatn...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>>
>> >and that Google can be sent a message
>> >by filing claims in small claims courts,
>>
>> Once again Potter lies. What claims have we filed in small claims
>> courts?
>>
>> Name them.
>
>well, to give you an idea
No, name the cases.
Freedom Fighter
tankfixer
says...
>
> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.2500e79...@news.bytemine.net...
> > In article <4a96...@news.x-privat.org>, xpriv...@mailinator.com
> > says...
> >> I am after Google, and politicians and government employees
> >> and Jews and bigots who try to control the flow of information
> >> so they can pursue their selfish agendas.
> >
> > Why not just cut to the chase and emulate your hero and eat a bullet ?
>
> It is interesting to see that "tankfixer"
> asserts that Thomas Jefferson "ate a bullet",
I seriously doubt Mr Jefferson is your hero.
I don't recall him being an antisemitic...
> and suggest that I should do likewise.
>
> Perhaps "tankfixer" is a bigot,
Everyone is a bigot...
The key is recognizing that fact and then living one's life in such a
way it doesn't interfere.
> who is all bent out of shape,
> because I take stands against race/religion biased bigots
>
tankfixer
klausscha...@yahoo.com says...
>
> In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <tdp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:MPG.2500e79...@news.bytemine.net...
> >> In article <4a96...@news.x-privat.org>, xpriv...@mailinator.com
> >> says...
> >>> I am after Google, and politicians and government employees
> >>> and Jews and bigots who try to control the flow of information
> >>> so they can pursue their selfish agendas.
> >>
> >> Why not just cut to the chase and emulate your hero and eat a bullet ?
> >
> >It is interesting to see that "tankfixer"
> >asserts that Thomas Jefferson "ate a bullet",
> >and suggest that I should do likewise.
>
> He was probably referring to Hitler, not Jefferson.
>
Yup.. but he knew that.
Tom Potter
It is interesting to see that paul.c...@gmail.com
klausscha...@yahoo.com
as Jewish bigots usually do,
make an effort to equate critics of Jews
to Hitler, when the fact of the matter is,
as Jews have come into conflict with all
of their neighbors throughout history
they could equate a critique of Jews
to Jimmy Carter, Henry Ford, Mel Gibson, Thomas Edison,
and in fact to most of the people throughout history.
For example, here are what some
historical figures have said about Jews,
and they weren't even aware of the Jewish
instigations of the Civil War, the Spanish-American War,
the Class Wars of the 1900's, the war against the Iraqi people,
and the instigations of the Religious Wars of the 2000's,
Madoff, Lehman, and the other Jewish Ponzi Scammers.
Benjamin Franklin:
"I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young
nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The menace, gentlemen,
is the Jews.
In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they have lowered
its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated
themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and tried to
undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is founded, by
objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within the state; and
when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially, as in
the case of Spain and Portugal."
GRANT, USYSSES S.
"I have long since believed that in spite of all the vigilance that can be
infused into post commanders, the special regulations of the Treasury
Department have been violated, and that mostly by Jews and other
unprincipled traders. So well satisfied have I been of this that I
instructed the commanding officers at Columbus to refuse all permits to Jews
to come South, and I have frequently had them expelled from the department,
but they come in with their carpet-sacks in spite of all that can be done to
prevent it. The Jews seem to be a privileged class that can travel anywhere.
They will land at any woodyard on the river and make their way through the
country. If not permitted to buy cotton themselves, they will act as agents
for someone else, who will be at military post with a Treasury permit to
receive cotton and pay for it in Treasury notes which the Jew will buy up at
an agreed rate, paying gold. (Letters to C. P. Wolcott, assistant secretary
of war, Washington, December 17, 1862)
1. The Jews, as a class, violating every regulation of trade established by
the Treasury Department, and also Department orders, are hereby expelled
from the Department.
SHAW, GEORGE BERNARD
"This is the real enemy, the invader from the East, the Druze, the ruffian,
the oriental parasite; in a word: the Jew. (London Morning Post, December 3,
1925)
This craving for bouquets by Jews is a symptom of racial degeneration. The
Jews are worse than my own people. Those Jews who still want to be the
chosen race (chosen by the late Lord Balfour) can go to Palestine and stew
in their own juice. The rest had better stop being Jews and start being
human beings. (Literary Digest, October 12, 1932)
FRANZ LISZT
"The day will come when all nations amidst which the Jews are dwelling will
have to raise the question of their wholesale expulsion, a question which
will be one of life or death, good health or chronic disease, peaceful
existence or perpetual social fever."
MARIA THERESA, Queen of Hungary and Bohemia (1771 - 1789)
"Henceforth no Jew, no matter under what name, will be allowed to remain
here without my written permission. I know of no other troublesome pest
within the state than this race, which impoverished the people by their
fraud, usury and money-lending and commits all deeds which an honorable man
despises. Subsequently they have to be removed and excluded from here as
much as possible."
MOHAMMED, in the Koran
"Whoever is a friend of a Jew, belong to them, becomes one of them, God
cannot tolerate this mean people. The Jews have wandered from divine
religion. You must not relent in your work which must show up Jewish
deceit."
WALTER CRICK
"Jews can destroy by means of finance. Jews are International. Control of
credits in this country is not in the hands of the English, but of Jews. It
has become the biggest danger the British Empire ever had to face."
CHURCHILL, WINSTON
"Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and
divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This
movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to
those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa
Luxemburg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide
revolutionary conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the
reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious
malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing."
WILHELM II. German Kaiser.
"A Jew cannot be a true patriot. He is something different, like a bad
insect. He must be kept apart, out of a place where he can do mischief -
even by pogroms, if necessary.
The Jews are responsible for Bolshevism in Russia, and Germany too. I was
far too indulgent with them during my reign, and I bitterly regret the
favors I showed the prominent Jewish bankers."
CARDINAL MINDSZENTY
"The troblemakers in Hungary are the Jews... they demoralize our country and
they are the leaders of the revolutionary gang that is torturing Hungary."
A. N. FIELD
"Once the Jewishness of Bolshevism is understood, its otherwise puzzling
features become understandable. Hatred of Christianity, for instance, is not
a Russian characteristic; it is a Jewish one."
ADRIEN ARCAND, Canadian political leader in New York Speech, October 30,
1937
"There is nothing else in Communism - a Jewish conspiracy to grab the whole
world in their clutches; and no intelligent man in the world can find
anything else, except the Jews, who rightly call it for themselves a
"paradise on earth."
Jews are eager to bring Communism, because they know what it is and what it
means.
It is because Communism has not been fought for what it really is - a Jewish
scheme invented by Jews - that it has progressed against all opposition to
it. We have fought the smoke-screen presented by Jewish dialecticians and
publicists, refusing to fight the inventor, profiteer and string-puller.
Because Christians and Gentiles have come to fear the Jews, fear the truth,
and they are paralyzed by the paradoxical slogans shouted by the Jews."
Observe that some of that "paradoxical slogans shouted by the Jews."
include "anti-Semitic", "Nazi", "Hitlerite", etc.
Are Jews "virtuous victims"
and were all of their neighbors throughout history
ignorant, evil, jealous victimizers,
or are Jews some kind of cultural cancer
that invades healthy hosts and consumes the host,
as they did Germany, England, Russia, the Middle East,
and are doing to America?
Klaus Schadenfreude
>
>"tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:MPG.250321e...@news.bytemine.net...
>> In article <80tg959323792gjfd...@4ax.com>,
>> klausscha...@yahoo.com says...
>>>
>>> In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <tdp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >"tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> >news:MPG.2500e79...@news.bytemine.net...
>>> >> In article <4a96...@news.x-privat.org>, xpriv...@mailinator.com
>>> >> says...
>>> >>> I am after Google, and politicians and government employees
>>> >>> and Jews and bigots who try to control the flow of information
>>> >>> so they can pursue their selfish agendas.
>>> >>
>>> >> Why not just cut to the chase and emulate your hero and eat a bullet ?
>>> >
>>> >It is interesting to see that "tankfixer"
>>> >asserts that Thomas Jefferson "ate a bullet",
>>> >and suggest that I should do likewise.
>>>
>>> He was probably referring to Hitler, not Jefferson.
>>
>> Yup.. but he knew that.
>
>It is interesting to see that paul.c...@gmail.com
>klausscha...@yahoo.com
>
>as Jewish bigots usually do,
>make an effort to equate critics of Jews
>to Hitler,
especially when Tom Potter QUOTES Hitler.
tankfixer
says...
>
> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.250321e...@news.bytemine.net...
> > In article <80tg959323792gjfd...@4ax.com>,
> > klausscha...@yahoo.com says...
> >>
> >> In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <tdp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:MPG.2500e79...@news.bytemine.net...
> >> >> In article <4a96...@news.x-privat.org>, xpriv...@mailinator.com
> >> >> says...
> >> >>> I am after Google, and politicians and government employees
> >> >>> and Jews and bigots who try to control the flow of information
> >> >>> so they can pursue their selfish agendas.
> >> >>
> >> >> Why not just cut to the chase and emulate your hero and eat a bullet ?
> >> >
> >> >It is interesting to see that "tankfixer"
> >> >asserts that Thomas Jefferson "ate a bullet",
> >> >and suggest that I should do likewise.
> >>
> >> He was probably referring to Hitler, not Jefferson.
> >
> > Yup.. but he knew that.
>
> It is interesting to see that paul.c...@gmail.com
> klausscha...@yahoo.com
>
> as Jewish bigots usually do,
jewish hell !
somebody pass me a ham sandwich...
> make an effort to equate critics of Jews
> to Hitler, when the fact of the matter is,
you are a moron
Tom Potter
rather than address the message
in a rational, intelligent, MORAL way,
***paul.carrier*** called me a moron
when I posted that
Jews have come into conflict with all of their neighbors
throughout history,
and that Jews systematically brainwash the masses
to the Urban Legend that they are "virtuous victims"
and that all of their neighbors have been ignorant,
jealous, evil victimizers,
and that Jews have institutionalized bigotry,
and use bigotry to try to smear and intimidate folks
so they can control the flow of information,
in oredr to implement their selfish agenda.
The definition of "bigot" is:
"A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his
own."
It may be that ***paul.carrier*** is a bigot,
and does not have the facts nor the intelligence
to discuss the issues, and that he, like all bigots,
is trying to make the messenger the issue.
If ***paul.carrier*** is not a bigot,
I will be looking forward to seeing him
making a case that disproves my assertions.
To read the stories of a few of the many folks
who have been victims of bigots like ***paul.carrier***
visit the web site below.
<http://www.zundelsite.org/english/debate/victims/index.html>
--
Tom Potter
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vc0u95t9ki26shqtd...@4ax.com...
It is a sad day for America, free speech,
and freedom, when people like "Klaus Schadenfreude"
use bigotry in an effort to control the
facts and opinions that can be expressed.
It does not take a system engineer to comprehend that
bigots like "Klaus Schadenfreude" use bigotry
in an effort to obscure facts about the Gang that
had Massacred the Russian Royal Family,
co-opted the Russian government,
and were using Russia as a Base from where to instigate
Class Wars all over the world,
much as they used bigotry in conning Americans
into sacrificing their lives, limbs and dollars
in waging Religious Wars against Muslims.
The definition of "bigot" is:
"A prejudiced person
who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own."
To read the stories of a few of the many folks
who have been victims of Institutionalized bigotry
visit the web site below.
<http://www.zundelsite.org/english/debate/victims/index.html>
--
Klaus Schadenfreude
It's a sad day for America when people like Tom Potter profess to
follow Hitler when so many died to defeat him.
But then, Potter is a lying dumb fuck, and everyone knows it.
tankfixer
I called you a moron because you ARE one friend..
>
> Jews have come into conflict with all of their neighbors
> throughout history,
>
> and that Jews systematically brainwash the masses
> to the Urban Legend that they are "virtuous victims"
> and that all of their neighbors have been ignorant,
> jealous, evil victimizers,
>
> and that Jews have institutionalized bigotry,
> and use bigotry to try to smear and intimidate folks
> so they can control the flow of information,
> in oredr to implement their selfish agenda.
So anyone who cares to disagree with you is a Jew, is that it ?
Did I mention you are a moron ?
>
> The definition of "bigot" is:
> "A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his
> own."
News flash for you, moron, everyone is a bigot, even you.
Now get over it.
hanson
"tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote
> Tom Potter <tdp...@yahoo.com> xpriv...@mailinator.com wrote:
>
"Tom Potter" wrote:
It may be that ***paul.carrier*** is a bigot, and does not have the
facts nor the intelligence to discuss the issues, and that he, like
all bigots, is trying to make the messenger the issue.
If ***paul.carrier*** is not a bigot, I will be looking forward to seeing
him making a case that disproves my assertions.
To read the stories of a few of the many folks who have been
victims of bigots like ***paul.carrier*** visit the web site below.
<http://www.zundelsite.org/english/debate/victims/index.html>
Paul Carrier wrote:
News flash for you, moron, everyone is a bigot, even you.
Now get over it.
>
hanson wrote:
ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHAHA... But Paul, it appears that
we have a Mexican stand off here, especially cuz you with a
mirror in hand and looking at it.. and to boot... aggravating
the entrenchment, enter Zio-Neocon and Fox contributor Dr.
Charles Krauthammer who declared that:
------- "Everybody is Jewish until proven otherwise" -------
Is that bigotry to the extreme or is it the ultimate wisdom?
If the either is true, then it's a draw again because both you,
Paul AND Potter, are right... So, thanks for the laughs, guys...
ahahaha.... Now get over it.... ahahahaha... ahahanson
tankfixer
says...
Say again, over.
You are coming in broken and stupid.
Tom Potter
I would like to thank my pal ***paul.carrier***
for demonstrating how bigots operate.
Note for example, that ***paul.carrier***
used the following tactics commonly used by bigots.
1. He attacked the messenger with low class insults,
rather than address the message
in a rational, intelligent, MORAL way.
2. He lied and tried to create a strawman with his statement:
"So anyone who cares to disagree with you is a Jew, is that it ?"
3. He completely ignored the facts involved,
and focused his response upon the messenger.
Of course, it may be that ***paul.carrier*** is a "moron"
and is unable to comprehend that one does not have to be
a Jewish bigot to emulate a Jewish bigot,
or maybe ***paul.carrier*** has a reading comprehension problem,
or uses words that he does not know the definitions of.
The bottom line is,
like all bigots when confronted with issues, opinions and facts
they cannot counter, ***paul.carrier***
tried to shift the focus off the message
and onto the messenger.
Thanks again to my pal ***paul.carrier***
for demonstrating how bigots operate.
The definition of "bigot" is:
"A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his
own."
To read the stories of a few of the many folks
who have been victims of bigots like ***paul.carrier***
visit the web site below.
<http://www.zundelsite.org/english/debate/victims/index.html>
--
Tom Potter
I would like to thank my pal "Klaus Schadenfreude"
for demonstrating how vulgar bigots
try to cope with more rational, intelligent moral folks.
hanson
>
"tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.com> cranked himself wrote:
Paul Carrier wrote:
Say again, over.
>
hanson wrote:
ahahahaha... yeah, lots of things need to be said to you,
over and over again, since you are so slow on the up-take.
>
Paul Carrier wrote:
You are coming in broken and stupid.
>
hanson wrote:
That's is the hallmark expression of a bigot!
---- [ Potter 1 : Carrier 0 ] -----------
But thanks for the laughs, Paul... ... "Go figure!...
ahahahaha.... ahahahahanson
Klaus Schadenfreude
Have you been discussing things with other rational, intelligent,
moral folks besides me?
>The definition of "bigot" is:
>"A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his
>own."
And that would describe you perfectly.
>To read the stories of a few of the many folks
>who have been victims of Institutionalized bigotry
>visit the web site below.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
tankfixer
Tom thinks he is clever..
>
> >The definition of "bigot" is:
> >"A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his
> >own."
>
> And that would describe you perfectly.
We are all bigots of one sort or another..
An honest man can admit it and try to live his life without that fact
rulling his decisions.
>
> >To read the stories of a few of the many folks
> >who have been victims of Institutionalized bigotry
> >visit the web site below.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
>
Tom's finest hours..
Tom Potter
It is interesting to see that "Klaus Schadenfreude,
asserts that I am "intolerant of any opinions differing from mine",
when the fact of the matter is that,
unlike Klaus Schadenfreude and bigots who
do anything they can to control the flow of information ,
I am, and have always been an aggressive supporter of free speech.
as a search of the Usenet archives will clearly reveal.
Here are some ways to recognize a bigot.
Compare my posts to "Klaus Schadenfreude's" posts
and see if you can identify the bigot.
Bigots::
1. Attack messengers rather than address messages.
2. Try to get posters who post opinions and facts the bigots want to
suppress,
banned from Google Groups and Usenet providers..
3. Solicit government employees to bring pressure
against folks the bigots want to silence.
4. Shop around for friendly courts in which to sue their victims.
5. Boycott businesses as Jews recently did Ikea
to bring pressure against a Swedish newspaper
who wrote an article the bigots didn't like
6. They try to get working people fired.
7. And as can be seen from the experience of the German people,
bigots do anything to suppress free speech and freedom,
like hiring thugs to break up meetings, assaulting people,
and even assassinating people the bigots fear.
Laws need to be passed,
not only to guarantee free speech,
but also to fine and jail people who inhibit free speech
with personal attacks, boycotts, gang banging, law suits,
the intimidation of third parties like employers, Internet service
providers, etc.
The use of bigotry to control the flow of information
allows bigots to gain power and wealth
at the expense of honest, hard working people
who value freedom and free speech.
If the bigots are allowed to control the flow of information,
the children and grandchildren of the folks who value free speech
will eventually be in the same situation as the Palestinians are in today.
The definition of "bigot" is:
"A prejudiced person who is intolerant
of any opinions differing from his own."
To read the stories of a few of the many folks
who have been "Jimmy Cartered" and "Mel Gibsoned"
visit the web site below.
<http://www.zundelsite.org/english/debate/victims/index.html>
Tom Potter
As astute students of history know,
a small gang, mostly Jews,
massacred the Russian Family,
co-opted the Russian government,
and used Russia as a base from where to instigate
the Class Wars of the 1900's
that caused the deaths of millions of folks,
Chinese, Americans, Germans, Japanese, English, etc.
It is interesting to see that after they saw
that their Class Wars were failing,
and the Native Russians regained control of their government,
The Jews who were in charge of most key government offices
instituted a phony "Free Jews" scam,
and hundreds of thousands of Jews migrated en mass
to America and Israel, from where they are
trying to instigate the Religious Wars of the 2000's
to get back in the chips,
as the loot from the Religious Wars is almost gone.
It is sad to see that "tankfixer"
seems to be intent on smearing folks
who want to prevent the Religious War Instigators
from causing more "Nanking_Massacres"
and retaliations against Jews for instigating conflicts and wars.
tankfixer
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
> >
> > Tom's finest hours..
>
> As astute students of history know,
> a small gang, mostly Jews,
> massacred the Russian Family,
> co-opted the Russian government,
> and used Russia as a base from where to instigate
> the Class Wars of the 1900's
>
You don't get out much do you ?
What with all them "jews" skulking about
Klaus Schadenfreude
And you're a liar, too.
Tom Potter
skulk
1. To lie in hiding, as out of cowardice or bad conscience; lurk.
2. To move about stealthily.
3. To evade work or obligation; shirk.
It appears that my pal tankfixer"
has Jews all figured out.
tankfixer
>
> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.250ee3f...@news.bytemine.net...
> > In article <h82h7e$u9f$4...@tioat.net>, t...@hotsheet.com says...
> >>
> >> "tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.250dc46...@news.bytemine.net...
> >> > [quoted text muted]
> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre
> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
> >> >
> >> > Tom's finest hours..
> >>
> >> As astute students of history know,
> >> a small gang, mostly Jews,
> >> massacred the Russian Family,
> >> co-opted the Russian government,
> >> and used Russia as a base from where to instigate
> >> the Class Wars of the 1900's
> >
> > You don't get out much do you ?
> > What with all them "jews" skulking about
>
> skulk
> 1. To lie in hiding, as out of cowardice or bad conscience; lurk.
> 2. To move about stealthily.
> 3. To evade work or obligation; shirk.
>
> It appears that my pal tankfixer"
> has Jews all figured out.
Got you figured out.. you paranoid nazi
Tom Potter
It is interesting to see that "tankfixer",
a guy who does not use his real name,
and a guy who got all bent out of shape when
I pointed out that Jews have come into conflict with
all of their neighbors throughout history,
and who have instigated numerous conflicts and wars
for power and riches,
such as the Class Wars of the 1900's
the Religious Wars of the 2000's,
not to mention the Spanish-American War,
many European wars, the war on Iraq, etc.
calls me a ''paranoid nazi"
because I also pointed out,
that the German people,
who are probably the most intelligent folks on the planet,
understood that a small gang, mostly Jews,
had assassinated the Russian Royal Family,
co-opted the Russian government,
and were using Russia as a base from
where to instigate Class Wars all over the world,
and that they took a stand against the Jews to
prevent them from doing to Germany,
what they had done to Russia.
Hopefully my anonymous, paranoid pal "tankfixer",
will get over his paranoia, and be able to discuss
issues of great importance to mankind,
in a rational, intelligent, MORAL way,
rather than trying to make the messenger the issue
with lies, and the boilerplate phrases used by Jewish bigots,
who try to control the flow of information.
hanson
.... and that they took a stand against the Jews..... [snip
(Google now reveals the names of abusive posters) crap]
-- Tom Potter
>
hanson wrote:
----------------- The Quickie -----------------
"and that they took a stand against the Jews"... like
ex-con-gressman James Traficant does who came
out swinging even before the jail gate closed behind
him and he blamed the Jews and Israel for all the ills
that the USA faces & he finds himself immediately in
interviews on the primetime TV network news and in
3,490 hits for [ Traficant van Susteren ] in
--------- <http://tinyurl.com/qpb6sn> ------------
>
>
----------------- The Longie -----------------
****** Nobody is born Anti-Semitic, but ********
****** Jews are great masters at alienating ******
****** their friends & enabling their enemies ******
Examples of kikes being the sole cause and teachers
for that abounds on the Internet. That and their classic
self aggrandizement & nepotism has been their hall
mark traits thru'-out the history of the Jews which you
Potter have pointed out in your posts... but now....
>
...forget about the vile Jews in old Russia a century+ ago,
...forget about Zio infested Weimar republic 80 years ago,
that gave rise Hitler and to the Nazis .... [fast forward]...
...forget about syndicated columnist Ann Coulter's remark in
07 that "Jews should be perfected by accepting Jesus & that
America would be better off if everyone was a Christian. ..."
with 937,000 google hits in <http://tinyurl.com/r5rw3p>....
& all that never appeared as more than a few sound bites
in/on the Jewish controlled TV news networks in the US.
>
Now for some, to me unknown reason, this festering boil has
burst and broke open with the return of ex con-gressman
James Traficant (Dem/Ohio) into circulation. And circulate
he does, immediately, hours after his release.... as seen in:
>
696,000 hits for [ Traficant freed ]
in <http://tinyurl.com/l8upq9>
4,090 hits for [ Traficant blames Israel ] in
<http://tinyurl.com/ndm3wq>
3,490 hits for [ Traficant van Susteren ] in
<http://tinyurl.com/qpb6sn>
2,450 hits for [Traficant blames AIPAC] in
<http://tinyurl.com/nxwjmn>
>
The Ohio ex-congressman gets 1/2 hr long interviews on National
TV during Prime time in which he loudly blames Israel and our
jerUSAlem cockroaches (Neocons & US Jews whose 1st allegiance
belongs to Israel instead of the US) for radicalizing the Muslims,
for causing the rise in Xtian sectarianism in the US, and blames
the Jew dominated Congress for allowing 9/11 to happen, and for
giving Israel $12-14Billion (not 3-7B) per year from taxes that
are extorted from the table off hard working US families....
instead of taking care of our own citizens who fell on hard times.
>
Interestingly....concurrently in the same news cycle on US TV
network appears the item of FBI undercover agent Elie Assaad
who had infiltrated the 9/11 Atta group but was told by his
bosses to lay off the 9/11/01 hijacker group. It is not explained
why 8 years had to pass and why he was not questioned by
the 9/11 commission, but is only now, 8 years later, allowed
to speak out in <http://tinyurl.com/nyqdh7> which produced
1,432 google hit within the 1st hour after the broad cast....
This will be a boon for conspiracy theorists... but ultimately
bad new for the Jews.
>
Fears, paranoid or justified, about bad times to come for Jews
is not only vivid amongst the US Jews but it is livid amongst
the Israelis as is reported in this Israeli News paper:
<http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1104187.html>,
wherein it says: "is Rahm Emanuel is an anti-Israeli fifth column
in the Obama administration".. while the opposite feeling runs
in US quarters about this man with a dual IL/US citizenship
sitting next to the president of the USA, as chief of staff.
>
These are bad days for the Jews... and with the world wide
hysteria rising about the coming doom/Armageddon on 12/21
in 2012 it does not look good for the Jews.
>
Helmut Wabnig
One Jew is worth more than 100 hans hansons.
w.
hanson
ahahaha.. the Austrian Nazi & America hater "Helmut Wabnig"
<hwabnig@ .- --- -. dotat> is drunk again and cranked himself
One Jew is worth [to Wabnig] more than 100 hans hansons.
>
hanson wrote:
ahahahaha... of course it is that way to you, Wabnig, you who
fingered Jews to the Nazis in WWII. Your Nazi values & habits
have not changed a bit, even today...
>
The same Wabnig also advocates in < http://tinyurl.com/ln6ls4 >
the total destruction of Israel "Stone by stone, brick by brick".
Helmut advocates that Jews living in Israel, 2000 mile away
from Wabnig, are not far enough away for Wabnig. Helmut
wants the Jews to be relocated onto the other of the world....
>
<http://tinyurl.com/pf3ejh> Nazi Wabnig's Anti-American hatred
is there because of people like my Great Grandpa who went there
to liberate Austria, without whom you, Helmut may have gone up
the chimney in one of Hitler's Austrian concentration camps,
for Wabnig being an Untermensch, who said stupid things.
Or later, if it would not have been for the great sacrifices of the
CIA behind the Iron Curtain, you, Wabie, may have spent the
rest of your days in a Gulag for you saying stupid things.
>
refs:
< http://tinyurl.com/ln6ls4 > Wabnig equates Jews with criminals
< http://tinyurl.com/mfz7m3> Wabnig, the drunken plagiarist
< http://tinyurl.com/nwzvcj > Wabnig -- Sharon's Anti-Semite
< http://tinyurl.com/mfz7m3 > Wabnig's Alcoholism
Helmut Wabnig
hanson does not learn.
I told you already, that your grandpa (with all respect)
was not here to liberate anyone.
Anyhow, when "liberating" is something so desireable,
why don't you take part in a liberation action.
But hanson, you must be at the site which is beeing liberated,
not at the playgrounds of those computer kids in the US bunkers
who remote control the "liberation" drones.
Be there, hansi, when the bombs detonate and tear men, women
and children into pieces. Participate in napalm combustion events
where the temperatures are over 1000� C and feel your skin burning.
See, hansi, only then will you really know what "liberation" means.
Ever heard about the "liberation" of Dresden?
When they had to clean up the city ruins after 100000 had been
liberated from the burdens of life, even the Russian POW's
would not enter the basements when they encountered bar-boiled
children soaking in the water flooded cellars.
Everyone who looked in there started to throw up due
to your grandpa's liberation efforts.
hansi hanson, the antisemite hate spreader and pogrome propagandist
has no clue what he is talking, writing and thinking.
Kreisky once said: "Lernen's Geschichte" (- Study history).
w.
hanson
who fingered Jews to the Nazis in WWII in his native Austria,
to prove to them that he, Wabnig, was a "good" Nazi, has not
changed & posted that "1 Jew is worth more than 100 non-
Jews" to him (!!!)"... & Wabnig has also advocated the total
destruction of Israel "Stone by stone, brick by brick"... and
Wabnig deeply hates having been liberated by US forces.
>
Now Wabnig explains why he hates America to weasel out
of his stupid remarks above < http://tinyurl.com/mkf9mv >
& he tries to play the game of being the "virtuous" victim and
attacks our brave US soldiers, calling them:
>
Wabnig wrote:
.... computer kids in the US bunkers who remote control the
"liberation" drones... [snip]...
Ever heard about the "liberation" of Dresden?
When they had to clean up the city ruins after 100000 had been
liberated from the burdens of life, even the Russian POW's
would not enter the basements when they encountered bar-boiled
children soaking in the water flooded cellars.
Everyone who looked in there started to throw up due
to your grandpa's liberation efforts.
>
well, that's what you got for you fingering Jews & bragging that...
Earlier Wabnig wrote:
One Jew is worth [to Wabnig] more than 100 hans hansons.
>
hanson wrote:
still today you come up with YOUR old hatreds, every time, when
you hear that Jews are being warned of the ancient dangers that
arise and emerge out of THEIR own midst...
>
The fanatical Nazi Wabnig should apologize, every day for
everything he says, but Nazis like Wabnig don't!
>
-------------------------
Now let me get back to current day events which Wabnig the
old Nazi & America hater de-railed in his drunken stupor.
-------------------------
---------------------------
refs:
< http://tinyurl.com/mkf9mv > 1 Jew for 100 non-Jews
< http://tinyurl.com/ln6ls4 > Wabnig's total destruction of Israel
<http://tinyurl.com/pf3ejh> Nazi Wabnig's Anti-American hatred
tankfixer
I'm sorry you are too stupid to see my "real name" right in the headers
of each and every message.
BTW, is "tom potter" your real name ?
>
> and a guy who got all bent out of shape when
> I pointed out that Jews have come into conflict with
> all of their neighbors throughout history,
>
> and who have instigated numerous conflicts and wars
> for power and riches,
> such as the Class Wars of the 1900's
> the Religious Wars of the 2000's,
> not to mention the Spanish-American War,
> many European wars, the war on Iraq, etc.
>
> calls me a ''paranoid nazi"
I believe in truth in advertising..
>
remaning drvil discarded to save the earth from global warming..
Tom Potter
I am pleased to see that "Paul Carrier",
like me, posts his real name,
and believes in ""truth in advertising"" like
Jews have come into conflict with all
of their neighbors throughout history,
and contrary to what they would have you believe,
they are not "virtuous victims""
who have been victimized for centuries by
ignorant, evil, non-Jews,
but are a criminal gang that will do
anything to steal the work product of non-Jews
for themselves and members of the gang,
and they have a long history of instigating
conflicts and wars for power and riches,
and migrating en masse to a rich nation,
buying, conning or intimidating a few national leaders,
using these leaders to loot the nation,
getting the leaders to wag war upon their previous host nation,
and profiting from the war.
Thanks to my pal "Paul Carrier"
for joining my "" truth in advertising"" campaign.
Tom Potter
"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in message
news:58uqm.1945$Jd7....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
> "Tom Potter" <t...@hotsheet.com> wrote:
> .... and that they took a stand against the Jews..... [snip
> (Google now reveals the names of abusive posters) crap]
> -- Tom Potter
>>
> hanson wrote:
> ----------------- The Quickie -----------------
> "and that they took a stand against the Jews"... like
> ex-con-gressman James Traficant does who came
> out swinging even before the jail gate closed behind
> him and he blamed the Jews and Israel for all the ills
> that the USA faces & he finds himself immediately in
> interviews on the primetime TV network news and in
> 3,490 hits for [ Traficant van Susteren ] in
> --------- <http://tinyurl.com/qpb6sn> ------------
As can be seen by reading the original transcript,
90% of the TV interview consisted of
VAN SUSTEREN trying to portray TRAFICANT
as an un-loved, undesirable, anti-Semitic,
and Israel as a great American friend.
I removed VAN SUSTEREN's propaganda, and
posted the message that
TRAFICANT tried to convey to the American people,
in sprite of VAN SUSTEREN's obfuscations.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Are you going to run for Congress again?
TRAFICANT: I don't know yet. There's a lot of people that want me to run for
Congress. You know, I was the number one target of the American-Israeli
Public Affairs Committee and the number one target of the Justice Department
since
1983, being the only American to ever defeat them pro se in a RICO trial.
And I have big enemies.
But I have some grudges, and I want to go at them. I want to go at them big
time, Greta. So I have to see, first of all, if I'm viable, and second of
all,
if the people would support me. They came in here and they fractured this
district. They broke it up certainly to make it tougher. I think they also
felt they gave me a life sentence, that I'd never survive in prison. Then
they
came to me and said if I said I was guilty, I might even get a pardon, and I
told
them to shove the pardon up their derriere sideways.
So here I am, and if I do run, get your best hold, because I will be running
downhill with my tails flapping in the wind, wide open.
VAN SUSTEREN: What are the odds you are going to win -- I mean, not are you
going to win. What are the odds that you're going to run?
TRAFICANT: The odds, and I saved all comments for your show, because, number
one, I think you have a great show, and this is not to patronize you. I know
you got some questions, and I am going to embarrass you before it is over.
But I would say at this point is 50-50, and I have a lot of people that are
encouraging me to run because there are so many disenfranchised people, so
many, especially in this area.
Concerns I have that I come home to is we have Delphi here, the salaried
that were completely cut out of also pension benefits. It's going to be
almost a $250,000 impact to this general community.
And when you look at it nationally, Dayton, Ohio, is going to be hit real
hard. The state of Ohio is going to be hit with about $1.5 billion in lost
money,
and economic generation, because of this decision.
And I feel, and you know my record, if we can take care of people over the
world, dammit, take care of those Delphi salaried workers. And I expect it
to be done.
I mean, I am on your show here asking you and asking America to look at this
place, because we have here 9,500 workers to lose their pension benefits,
they're going to have to pay for hospitalization.
It's an immediate cost pocket of $50 million, with a computing factor of the
multiplication of two for the general metropolitan area of billion dollar
impact on the economy that lost steel mills years ago and has been left
behind.
Can't have it.
VAN SUSTEREN: Can't have it. You said you had some grudges. Who are your
grudges against?
TRAFICANT: Well, number one -- and my wife constantly reminds me to tone
[it] down -- I brought that guy back from Israel, John Demjanjuk.
It was my Freedom of Information Act which proved not only that he was
innocent, but who Ivan really was. The case was so sensitive, members of
Congress
would say, "Jim, I love you. But please, don't involve me."
I sent my evidence to the 6th Circuit Court in Cincinnati. They wouldn't
accept it.
I finally send it over to Israel, to the Israeli Supreme Court, and they
called me over there, and I went with the family. I did a live interview
satellite
with Bryant Gumbel, and I said, "When they put this innocent man to death,
they're going to lose $15 billion to $20 billion every year they get from
the
American taxpayers.
And Bryant Gumbel says, "What are you talking about? They only get $3
billion." And I said, "Bryant, that's only the foreign aid bill. Look at all
of the
other trade compacts, economic assistance, military assistance."
I am saying this to you right now -- Israel gets approximately $15 billion a
year from the American taxpayers.
And people in my district are losing their pension benefits.
So, I was targeted big-time.
VAN SUSTEREN: By the Israelis?
TRAFICANT: The Israeli Supreme Court looked at the evidence, could not
refute it. And it came from the Justice Department, Greta. And they said,
take him
home. I brought him home, and he was bombarded ever since.
VAN SUSTEREN: Home to Ohio?
TRAFICANT: Now he's in Germany fighting for his life.
Now, let me say this, Prosecutor Moskovitz of the OSI Office of the United
States Justice Department suborned perjury with Otto Horn. The documents
clearly state who "Ivan the Terrible" was, a man named Ivan Marchenko, not
Demjanjuk. And they had to release him.
And now they can't live with it. They couldn't live with Jim Traficant
having beaten him in 1983. I was a walking symbol of defiance. And now they
have
this man in Germany. And if someone doesn't look into this, the American
people
should be ashamed of themselves.
When you allow one American to be violated, you threaten the freedoms of
every American. And I can't understand this, why no one in Congress is
raising
their voice.
And the reason is very simple. And this maybe you don't want to hear, I
don't know. And I certainly don't want to hurt you on your show. You have
one of
the best. You're fair.
But I believe that Israel has a powerful stranglehold on the American
government. They control both members of the House, the House and the
Senate. They have us involved in wars in which we have little or no
interest.
Our children are coming back in body bags. Our nation is bankrupt over these
wars. And if you open your mouth, you get targeted. And if they don't beat
you at the poll, they'll put you in prison.
TRAFICANT: The grudge is not necessarily a grudge. It's an objective
assessment that no one will have the courage to speak about.
They're controlling much of our foreign policy. They're influencing much of
our domestic policy.
Wolfowitz as undersecretary of defense manipulated President Bush number two
back into Iraq. They've pushed definitely, definitely to try to get Bush
before he left to move into Iran.
We're conducting the expansionist policy of Israel and everybody's afraid to
say it. They control much of the media, they control much of the commerce of
the
country, and they control powerfully both bodies of the Congress. They own
the Congress.
VAN SUSTEREN: Are you an anti-Semite?
TRAFICANT: No, I'm not. And that's exactly what they're going to say. And I
expect that.
What I am is an American. You see, I think America comes first. And we have
a one-sided foreign policy in the Mideast, and we've alienated Arabs who
have
no way of fighting.
So, what they've done -- and I predicted this on the House floor -- is they
would export violence to America. And they have. They have no other way to
fight.
I think President Obama knows this. I think he sees this. I think he wants
to do something. I think his hands are tied, and I think he's dancing
between the
raindrops, trying to figure how I can politically machinate some scenario to
mitigate these problems.
Greta, I'm saying this. America is in danger if America doesn't take back
their government without foreign influence, interference.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
Note that as Major Media announcers always do,
VAN SUSTEREN played the anti-Semitic card,
and worked hard to prevent an Israeli critic
from making his case.
No doubt, Talking Heads, do as most of us would do,
and put their careers above truth, justice,
and the long term interests of society.
Benj
1. Jewish Law of Moses: "You shall not bear false witness against your
neighbor."
2. Jewish concentration camp victim pointing an accusing finger in
mock horror at Demjanjuk: "I shall never forget those eyes! THAT is
Ivan the Terrible!"
3. Traficant produces irrefutable evidence from Justice Department
(which they kept quiet) that Demjanjuk was innocent of these charges
and the witness was a liar (may he roast in hell for all eternity!)
4. Traficant comes under major attack by government (Justice Dept) in
U.S. Convicted. Goes to jail. Gets out.
Story in a nutshell.
Note: as nearly as I can determine Demjanjuk seems to be a complete
asshole and appears to have lied on his application to enter the U.S.
But I don't think that assholeyness is reason enough yet for
governments to murder people, is it? Especially by using perjury in
the courts! I guess we'll just have to see how long Traficant lives.
hanson
news:h8fhvb$rpi$2...@tioat.net...see: <http://tinyurl.com/ngjcb6> which discusses the
Trafficant / Jewish rail-roading isssue....
>
"Tom Potter" <t...@hotsheet.com> responded with
< http://tinyurl.com/ors3gl> that shows the original Van Susteren
-TRAFICANT TV transcript, which gave Potter the impression
that "Van Susteren was trying to portray TRAFICANT as an
un-loved, undesirable, anti-Semite, and Israel as a great
American friend. -- Potter says, I removed Van Susteren's
propaganda, and posted the message that TRAFICANT tried
>
------------- Traficant: the quickie ----------------
Israel has a powerful stranglehold on the American government.
They control both members of the House, the House and the Senate.
They have us involved in wars in which we have little or no interest.
Our children are coming back in body bags. Our nation is bankrupt
your mouth, you get targeted. -- And if they don't beat you at the poll,
they'll put you in prison and say you are an anti-Semite. But I am not.
I am an American who thinks that America comes first. And we have
a one-sided foreign policy in the Mideast, we've alienated the whole
world....America is in danger if America doesn't take back their govt
without foreign influence, interference.
------ Traficant: the longie, is at the end of the post ------
>
Potter commented and wrote:
Note that as Major Media announcers always do, Greta Van Susteren
played the anti-Semitic card, and worked hard to prevent an Israeli
critic from making his case. No doubt, Talking Heads, do as most
long term interests of society.
>
---------------- < http://tinyurl.com/o4t56j > -------------
1. Jewish concentration camp victim pointing an accusing finger in
mock horror at Demjanjuk: "I shall never forget those eyes! THAT is
false witness against your neighbor." --3-- Traficant produces
irrefutable evidence from Justice Department (which they kept quiet)
that Demjanjuk was innocent of these charges and the witness was
major attack by government (Justice Dept) in U.S. Convicted. Goes
>
Note: as nearly as I can determine Demjanjuk seems to be a complete
asshole and appears to have lied on his application to enter the U.S.
to murder people, is it? Especially by using perjury in the courts!
I guess we'll just have to see how long Traficant lives.
>
Potter is right, Ben Jacoby is right, Trafficant is right. All 3 are right
in
their own right. It is clear that the problem raised, namely that a
religious
ideology of a minority, the Jews, interferes with the wants and needs
of the majority. The Jewish Zionist agena does not sit well at all with
many elderly of the non-Jewish majority.
>
Given the history of the Jews... (99% of them being non-Israelite/Hebrew,
& are Jewish only by membership in that faith) ... in the last 2 millennia,
and the current situation in the USA, Ben Jacoby may have as well been
saying: "I guess we'll just have to see how long Jews live". History has a
nasty habit of repeating itself... Israel's PM Ariel Sharon saw that and
warned US Jews of that 26 years ago in < http://tinyurl.com/nwzvcj >
|||Sharon|||: Darkness is falling again. And we know what happens
|||Sharon|||: to a Jew who stays out in the dark. They should hurry
|||Sharon|||: home before it gets really dark. I will absorb the Yids
>
This "climate" is reflected and implied in many the cauche and 2-faced
comments by posters who attack anybody who points out to the Jews
that Jews should be aware of the dangers that arise for them, by/from &
tru their own, out of their own Jewish midst. All these attacks onto such
well-meaning non-Jewish messengers come from non-Jews too, like
from Potter's "pals", Mitch, the Mootch & specially from Helmut Wabnig.
in < http://tinyurl.com/mkf9mv > & <http://tinyurl.com/ql8pmh>
>
All these goyim, foreign and domestic, cannot wait to see the USA to
become a Nazi state wherein they can finger Jews again like Helmut
Wabnig did in Austria, in WW2, where "1 Jew was more important
then 100 non Jews" for him to gain favors from the Nazis who were in
power then. A repeat of that would fulfill his dream that he was right
and therefore validating his Aryan superiority over Jews.
>
However, like in all games and plays, it takes 2 to tango and so, Jews
should not be surprised when they hear/see the above goyim attitudes
after they themselves spout and brag like Jew "Uncle Al Schwartz does
in <http://tinyurl.com/pdsowt> :
>
||| UA |||: Jews don't work. Jews supervise and take their
||| UA |||: cut. Jews steal with a pencil and have the swag
||| UA |||: delivered by sweating goyim. No tipping!
||| UA |||: Uncle Al's ancestors, [the kikes] were kiting checks
||| UA |||: when yours [goyim] were still swinging through trees.
||| UA |||: You Goyim could study for your entire lifetime and
||| UA |||: not come close to what is hardwired at birth for
||| UA |||: Yahweh's Chosen".... & elsewhere Jew Schwartz bragged:
||| UA |||: Uncle Al's Schwartz' Hebrew School teacher was an Israeli
||| UA |||: whore who pussy lured British soldiers & enjoyed killing them.
||| UA |||: "DEATH to the poor. -- DEATH to the sick. -- ....
||| UA |||: DEATH to the entire Third World. Kill them all".
||| UA |||: "I have no problem with killing the now and future enemy.
||| UA |||: An Earth with 3 billion people would be a much nicer place
||| UA |||: to live." --- Uncle Al especially enjoys earthquakes
||| UA |||: that collapse churches filled with worshippers.
... only tio be echoed by ersatz rabbi Bob Kolker, the Jew who said:
||| BK |||: "to put all Xians into asylums for their belief in
Christianity".
... or Israel's Ariel Sharon again in < http://tinyurl.com/nwzvcj >
|||Sharon|||: We are **Judeo-Nazis**.We might use nuclear arms.
|||Sharon|||:.... we might go wild and burn all the oil fields in the
|||Sharon|||: Middle East! --- We might start World War Three.
>
Reality check:
As said, these folks mentioned herein are mostly geriatrics and
(de)-formed by their lives' experiences, which makes them rather
irrelevant, since the next generation now in their 50's and below
gives a fuck about Dad's or Grandpa's tales and advice. In fact
the Jewish B'nai Brith/ADL bitterly complained a few years back
that young Jews have left their Hebe-fold in excess of 600'000
in the last 25 years & have assimilated into the Goyim community.
>
So, as I said at the beginning of this tread:
These are bad days for the Jews... and with the world wide
hysteria rising about the coming doom/Armageddon on 12/21
ALL will survive that hysteria... the world may emerge as a more
enlightened place... well, perhaps, maybe,. hopefully.. by chance or
by "g-d"... etc... and even if not I will keep on LMAO over all this.
>
Thanks for the laughs, Grandpas... ahahahaha... ahahahahanson
>
> -------------------
Potter wrote:
------------- Traficant: the longie (posted by Potter ----------------
< (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)>
[hanson shortened it for brevity and omitted Van's altogether]
>
TRAFICANT: I was the # one target of the American-Israeli
Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) for having been the only US
Congress member to ever defeat them in a RICO trial.
>
They came and said that I'd never survive in prison, but if I said
I was guilty, I might even get a pardon. I told them to shove the
pardon up their derriere sideways.
>
would support me. I have a lot of people that are encouraging me
to run for office because there are so many disenfranchised people,
so many, especially in this area.
>
It was my Freedom of Information Act which proved not only that
Moskovitz (a Jew) of the OSI Office of the US Justice Department
suborned perjury with Otto Horn. The documents clearly state who
"Ivan the Terrible" was, a man named Ivan Marchenko, not Demjanjuk.
"Jim, I love you. But please, don't involve me."
I sent my evidence to the 6th Circuit Court in Cincinnati. They wouldn't
accept it. I finally sent it over to the Israeli Supreme Court, which looked
at the Demjanjuk evidence, & could not refute it. And they said, take
him, Demanjuk, home. I brought him home, to Ohio and he was
bombarded ever since [by the US justice dept. who extradicted Demanjuk
Now he's in Germany fighting for his life.
>
While in Isarel I said, "When they put this innocent man to death, they're
going to lose $15 billion to $20 billion every year they get from the US
taxpayers. Reporter Bryant Gumbel says, "What are you talking about?
They, the Israelis only get $3 billion." And I said, "that's only the
foreign aid
bill. Look at all of the other trade compacts, economic assistance, military
assistance -- Israel gets approximately $15 billion a year from the
American taxpayers" --- while [the AMERICAN] people in my district
are losing their pension benefits. .... So, I became targeted big-time.
>
And now they [Jews in AIPAC & US JUstice Dept] can't live with it.
They couldn't live with Jim Traficant having beaten him in 1983. I was a
walking symbol of defiance. And now they have this man in Germany.
>
... the American people should be ashamed of themselves when they
allow one American to be violated, [because by that] you threaten the
freedoms of every American [including Jews]. And I can't understand this,
why no one in Congress is raising their voice.
And the reason is very simple. Israel has a powerful stranglehold on the
American government. They control both members of the House, the
House and the Senate. They have us involved in wars in which we have
little or no interest. Our children are coming back in body bags. Our
nation is bankrupt over these wars. And if you open your mouth, you get
targeted. And if they don't beat you at the poll, they'll put you in prison.
>
My, TRaficant's grudge is not necessarily a grudge. It's an objective
assessment that no one will have the courage to speak about. Jews
are controlling much of our foreign policy. They're influencing much of
our domestic policy.
Wolfowitz as undersecretary of defense manipulated President Bush
number two back into Iraq. They've pushed definitely, definitely to try
to get Bush before he left to move into Iran.
We're conducting the expansionist policy of Israel and everybody's
afraid to say it. They control much of the media, they control much of the
commerce of the country, and they control powerfully both bodies of the
Congress. They own the Congress.
I'm not an anti-Semite. But that's exactly what they're going to say. And I
expect that. What I am is an American. You see, I think America comes
first. And we have a one-sided foreign policy in the Mideast, and we've
alienated Arabs who have no way of fighting.
So, what they've done -- and I predicted this on the House floor -- is they
would export violence to America. And they have. They have no other way to
fight.
I think President Obama knows this. I think he sees this. I think he wants
to do something. I think his hands are tied, and I think he's dancing
between the raindrops, trying to figure how I can politically machinate
some scenario to mitigate these problems.
America is in danger if America doesn't take back their government