US Murder Rate Less Than Europe - If Blacks Are Excluded
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>
> I have seen those statistics before - and they are hardly complementary
> to US whites ! The correct headline should just say " less than Great
> Britain " which has more crime than most continental western countries.
> The truth is that US whites are far more crime prone than Europeans.
> The most dangerous slums of Paris or Madrid are safer than the most
> white bread upper middle class suburbs in the USA
That's nonsense.
Johnny Yen
The Devil's Advocate©
wrote:
Funny how the bastards get it wrong everytime. Let's see Iceland or
Scandinavia or Austrailia vs. white Americans. I bet he wouldn't have
the balls to post those stats. Although it looks like white American
influence is pervading the Netherlands as they had an American-style
school shooting a few days back.
regards,
The Devil's Advocate
The Devil's Advocate©
>Johnny Yen wrote:
>>
>> I have seen those statistics before - and they are hardly complementary
>> to US whites ! The correct headline should just say " less than Great
>> Britain " which has more crime than most continental western countries.
>> The truth is that US whites are far more crime prone than Europeans.
>> The most dangerous slums of Paris or Madrid are safer than the most
>> white bread upper middle class suburbs in the USA
>
>That's nonsense.
>
Wow, I'm mesmermized at the facts to back this statement up!
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charles_p75
I live in Paris actually, and Paris and its suburbs is crawling with
niggers, arabs and turks who are turning it into a fucking shithole.
Come in Paris and see by yourself how the immigrants (blacks africans,
arabs and turks) have turned this place into a very insecure one.
MW
Johnny Yen wrote in message <01bf4822$a240b1e0$9a41d3cf@default>...
>I have seen those statistics before - and they are hardly complementary
>to US whites ! The correct headline should just say " less than Great
>Britain " which has more crime
and more blacks
MW
Johnny Yen wrote in message <01bf4822$a240b1e0$9a41d3cf@default>...
>I have seen those statistics before - and they are hardly complementary
>to US whites ! The correct headline should just say " less than Great
>The truth is that US whites are far more crime prone than Europeans.
>The most dangerous slums of Paris or Madrid are safer than the most
>white bread upper middle class suburbs in the USA
You're crazy.
rrcrumb
You sound as if you know what's going on.
charles_p75 wrote in message <3859D633...@yahoo.com>...
>Bullshit !!
>I live in Paris actually, and Paris and its suburbs is crawling with
>niggers, arabs and turks who are turning it into a fucking shithole.
>Come in Paris and see by yourself how the immigrants (blacks africans,
>arabs and turks) have turned this place into a very insecure one.
>
>
>Johnny Yen wrote:
>
Fletch F. Fletch
this time? Did France surrender yet again?
Fletch
"charles_p75" <charl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3859D633...@yahoo.com...
Thomas Mohr
>
> Johnny Yen wrote in message <01bf4822$a240b1e0$9a41d3cf@default>...
> >to US whites ! The correct headline should just say " less than Great
> >Britain " which has more crime
>
How do you explain that violent crimerate and percentage of blacks in
the populattion are inversely correlated for a large segment of the
population ? That contradicts your statement directly.
Thomas Mohr
>
> Johnny Yen wrote:
> >
> > I have seen those statistics before - and they are hardly complementary
> > to US whites ! The correct headline should just say " less than Great
> > The truth is that US whites are far more crime prone than Europeans.
> > The most dangerous slums of Paris or Madrid are safer than the most
> > white bread upper middle class suburbs in the USA
>
How can you judge ? Have you ever been to Europe ? No. You have no
interest in the *original* white culture you claim to defend.
ipm
>
> On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:21:25 -0500, ipm <i...@usaor.net> wrote:
>
> >Johnny Yen wrote:
> >>
> >> I have seen those statistics before - and they are hardly complementary
> >> to US whites ! The correct headline should just say " less than Great
> >> Britain " which has more crime than most continental western countries.
> >> The truth is that US whites are far more crime prone than Europeans.
> >> The most dangerous slums of Paris or Madrid are safer than the most
> >> white bread upper middle class suburbs in the USA
> >
> >That's nonsense.
> >
>
I posted my facts that the US murder rate would be lower than several
countries in Europe if the crimes committed by Blacks were excluded
from the US total. Now this person makes the claim that the "most
dangerous Paris slum" is safer than most White suburbs. Where's his
facts? He has no facts. He's just posting politically correct garbage.
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>
>
> >I have seen those statistics before - and they are hardly complementary
> >to US whites ! The correct headline should just say " less than Great
> >Britain " which has more crime than most continental western countries.
> >The truth is that US whites are far more crime prone than Europeans.
> >The most dangerous slums of Paris or Madrid are safer than the most
> >white bread upper middle class suburbs in the USA
>
> Scandinavia or Austrailia vs. white Americans. I bet he wouldn't have
> the balls to post those stats. Although it looks like white American
> influence is pervading the Netherlands as they had an American-style
> school shooting a few days back.
Why are you even involved in this discussion? Everybody knows that
you're race, the Black race, is the single most violent and criminal
bunch of people in America and probably everywhere else you live.
Don't worry you fuzzy head about the White criminals. They seldom
bother Blacks. OTOH, Black criminality is of concern for me because
your fellow Blacks are constantly robbing, murdering, and raping
Whites.
ipm
>
> ipm wrote:
> >
> > Johnny Yen wrote:
> > >
> > > I have seen those statistics before - and they are hardly complementary
> > > to US whites ! The correct headline should just say " less than Great
> > > Britain " which has more crime than most continental western countries.
> > > The truth is that US whites are far more crime prone than Europeans.
> > > The most dangerous slums of Paris or Madrid are safer than the most
> > > white bread upper middle class suburbs in the USA
> >
>
> How can you judge ? Have you ever been to Europe ? No. You have no
> interest in the *original* white culture you claim to defend.
He had the claim. Lets have the evidence.
We already had one person from Paris say Yen is a liar and that the
Blacks are spreading crime in Paris just like everywhere else.
ipm
>
> MW wrote:
> >
> > Johnny Yen wrote in message <01bf4822$a240b1e0$9a41d3cf@default>...
> > >to US whites ! The correct headline should just say " less than Great
> > >Britain " which has more crime
> >
>
> How do you explain that violent crimerate and percentage of blacks in
> the populattion are inversely correlated for a large segment of the
> population ? That contradicts your statement directly.
You found that was the case in one analysis of US counties and it only
occurred in a couple of isolated cases. The rest of the time the
percentage of Blacks are proportional to the amount of crime.
Mohr, you're obviously in no position to comment on anything having to
do with Blacks. Your country has no Blacks. I'd like to drop you off in
the middle of the Black area of Washington DC, Detriot, or NYC some
summer night. Then you might get an education on Blacks. Most likely,
however, your corpse would probably be found laying on the sidewalk the
next day.
The Devil's Advocate©
>Why are you even involved in this discussion?
Why the hell are you even in this newsgroup? You don't live in nor
have ever been to California.
The Devil's Advocate©
wrote:
>You ARE posting from France.
>You sound as if you know what's going on.
So what??? BajaRat posted from California but does that mean that he
knew what was going on? This guy could simply be the "BajaRat" of
Paris. Siggy has actually lived in Paris as well as other parts of
Europe.
The Devil's Advocate©
wrote:
>
>Johnny Yen wrote in message <01bf4822$a240b1e0$9a41d3cf@default>...
>>I have seen those statistics before - and they are hardly complementary
>>to US whites ! The correct headline should just say " less than Great
>>Britain " which has more crime
>
>and more blacks
Oh wow, England is like 1% black, whoopie-doo.
The Devil's Advocate©
>Mohr, you're obviously in no position to comment on anything having to
>do with Blacks. Your country has no Blacks. I'd like to drop you off in
>the middle of the Black area of Washington DC, Detriot, or NYC some
>summer night. Then you might get an education on Blacks. Most likely,
>however, your corpse would probably be found laying on the sidewalk the
>next day.
You know you're a fucking moron IPM that has no knowledge of black
people other than what your stereotypes and that demogogue William
Pierce tell you. I've walked through black neighborhoods at night
plenty of times and I'm alive, I've walked through downtown L.A. at
night, one of the scariest places on earth, and I'm fine. You
demonstrate that paranoid, sheltered mentality. You are like a serf in
the middle ages. Afraid to leave his village for fear of wizards,
dragons and trolls that will eat him up in the dark forest. The truth
is, the chance of a white person dying on any given day visiting in a
black neighborhood is quite slim. Of course, people that walk around
looking over their shoulder paranoid and thinking something will
happen to them will probably bring it upon themselves. And for your
information, whites visit the jazz scene in Harlem all the time, as
well as the Apollo theatre. Secondly, not only do you stereotype black
people, but you also stereotype where black people live. Walking in DC
is supposed to give one an "education" on blacks? What, does that
include the 50% of blacks that don't live in the ghetto? Does that
include the 60% that are middle class? Does that include The Devil's
Advocate? Colin Powell? Oprah? Fredreck Douglass? Who the hell are you
talking about here? You know, as short as life is, I don't know why
the hell people like you choose to spend it hating others and defaming
them at every opportunity you can get. I can only hope that people
like you choose the higher path some day.
ipm
>
>
> >Why are you even involved in this discussion?
>
> Why the hell are you even in this newsgroup? You don't live in nor
> have ever been to California.
So what? I know many people who have been to California. California is
part of America. Some of my tax dollars go there. Either way, I have a
hell of a lot more business posting here than that miserable geek, Tom
Mohr.
Fletch F. Fletch
"ipm" <i...@usaor.net> wrote in message news:385A37C3...@usaor.net...
> "The Devil's AdvocateŠ" wrote:
> >
> > >to US whites ! The correct headline should just say " less than Great
> > >The truth is that US whites are far more crime prone than Europeans.
> > >The most dangerous slums of Paris or Madrid are safer than the most
> > >white bread upper middle class suburbs in the USA
> >
> > Scandinavia or Austrailia vs. white Americans. I bet he wouldn't have
> > the balls to post those stats. Although it looks like white American
> > influence is pervading the Netherlands as they had an American-style
> > school shooting a few days back.
>
> Why are you even involved in this discussion? Everybody knows that
> you're race, the Black race, is the single most violent and criminal
> bunch of people in America and probably everywhere else you live.
It seems to me there is no more ludicrous assertion than one that begins
with "Everbody knows...". The assertion is silly on its face and does not
reflect well on the orginator.
I suggest you try to prove your assertion. Of course, you will need either
omnicience or an exhaustive survey of six billion people.
> Don't worry you fuzzy head about the White criminals. They seldom
> bother Blacks. OTOH, Black criminality is of concern for me because
> your fellow Blacks are constantly robbing, murdering, and raping
> Whites.
Grammar check when implying your superiority to another group.
Fletch
ipm
>
>
> >Mohr, you're obviously in no position to comment on anything having to
> >do with Blacks. Your country has no Blacks. I'd like to drop you off in
> >the middle of the Black area of Washington DC, Detriot, or NYC some
> >summer night. Then you might get an education on Blacks. Most likely,
> >however, your corpse would probably be found laying on the sidewalk the
> >next day.
>
> You know you're a fucking moron IPM that has no knowledge of black
> people other than what your stereotypes and that demogogue William
> Pierce tell you.
I've worked with Blacks; had a Black roomate in college; served in the
military with Blacks. I know something about Blacks. I know that some
Blacks are nice people. I also know that despite what good they do, the
behavior of rotten ones overwhelm them. I simply decided that I don't
want to be around Blacks. I won't bother them and they won't bother me.
I don't want to hear their whining because I didn't have anything to do
with their problems. As long as Blacks leave me alone, I'll do the
same.
> I've walked through black neighborhoods at night
> plenty of times and I'm alive, I've walked through downtown L.A. at
> night, one of the scariest places on earth, and I'm fine.
Big deal, you're not White. When I was a young man I used to go to a
bar that was frequented by outlaw motorcycle gangs. I'm obviously still
alive, but you, as a Black, wouldn't have gotten out of there in one
piece. Your example proves nothing.
ipm
>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Johnny Yen wrote in message <01bf4822$a240b1e0$9a41d3cf@default>...
> >>to US whites ! The correct headline should just say " less than Great
> >>Britain " which has more crime
> >
>
> Oh wow, England is like 1% black, whoopie-doo.
1% too many.
charles_p75
I've been living in Paris for more than eighteen years, I know every
corner of Paris and its suburbs.
The only thing I can tell you is that it is turning rapidly into a
fucking shithole because of the french niggers, arabs and turks.
Except some fucking leftists or commies, the french people begins to be
fed up with all the mess created by the french niggers, arabs and turks.
To give you just an idea about how insecure Paris has become, the 31
December 1999, french people are afraid to go to the Champs-Elysees, the
most famous french avenue in the world ,to celebrate the millenium
because of the gathering of the french niggers,arabs and turks from the
Paris' suburbs there.
Actually, there is a arab serial killer wandering in french trains, he
has already killed one french woman and another english one.
The reason why I read this newsgroup is that I go back and forth between
southern California and France and I can assure you that some areas in
southern California like Orange county are much safer than Paris and its
suburbs.
The Devil's AdvocateŠ wrote:
Fletch F. Fletch
> "The Devil's AdvocateŠ" wrote:
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >Johnny Yen wrote in message <01bf4822$a240b1e0$9a41d3cf@default>...
> > >>I have seen those statistics before - and they are hardly
complementary
> > >>to US whites ! The correct headline should just say " less than Great
> > >>Britain " which has more crime
> > >
> > >and more blacks
> >
> > Oh wow, England is like 1% black, whoopie-doo.
>
> 1% too many.
>
> --
> For White Unity,
> ipm
There is nothing wrong with asserting that blacks are inferior because of
their skin color if your assertion rests upon solid science. None exists.
(Surveys of crime rates that do not control for other factors are not valid
for this purpose.)
Your assertion is that the higher the concentration of blacks, the higher
the crime rate. As soon as a single exception is found, your assertion is
logically false. Period. If an assertion does not ALWAYS predict reality
accurately, then it is flawed and must be modified. This is not my opinion;
it is the scientific method.
Try making one full post which contains nothing but assertions that have no
exceptions. (Hint: It will be blank.)
Fletch
The Devil's Advocate©
>1% too many.
Given that you're not British, it's none of your damn business how
many black reside in England. No more than it's any of your damn
business how many Central Americans Mexico lets into Mexico. And given
the stupid attitudes and lack of civility in this country(and its
newsgroups), I'm almost sorry I'm not one of them.
The Devil's Advocate©
>I've worked with Blacks; had a Black roomate in college; served in the
>military with Blacks. I know something about Blacks.
You don't know shit about blacks. The very fact that you use the word
nigger tells us all we need to know about you. The fact that you have
no ability to deal with non-whites and blacks in particular as
individuals shows us what we need to know about you.
>I know that some
>Blacks are nice people. I also know that despite what good they do, the
>behavior of rotten ones overwhelm them.
Bullshit. The majority of people in every ethnicity are decent. So to
say that bad blacks outnumber the good ones is pure rubbish. You're a
liar once again McKKKinney, as Mohr as proven. And you will lie to no
end to defame any group which you have made your mind up not to like.
>I simply decided that I don't
>want to be around Blacks.
And rest assured most blacks wouldn't want to be around a redneck like
you either. And that includes this one. How many blacks are trying to
move into Wankerville, PA, huh?
>I won't bother them and they won't bother me.
Good, move to Iceland and the chance of that happening will be even
less. At this point, I'd damn near be ready to give you some chunk of
land somewhere to throw yahoos like you into if it'll shut your
whining up permanently.
>I don't want to hear their whining because I didn't have anything to do
>with their problems.
Bullshit. You are a self-proclaimed racist. Greg Taylor has plenty of
quotes on his page to back that up. To whatever extent racism is a
problem, you are the embodiment of it, you piece of pig shit.
>As long as Blacks leave me alone, I'll do the
>same.
With pleasure, now please remove yourself from this newsgroup and
confine yourself to your trailor park in Wankerville, PA.
>Big deal, you're not White. When I was a young man I used to go to a
>bar that was frequented by outlaw motorcycle gangs. I'm obviously still
>alive, but you, as a Black, wouldn't have gotten out of there in one
>piece. Your example proves nothing.
It proves nothing if you are going on the assumption that the average
black person has the behavioral level of a member of the Hell's
Angels. Of course that's something that is only true in Ian
McKKKinney's world. Most people would simply laugh at your dazzling
deductions.
The Devil's Advocate©
<charl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>BajaRat of Paris ? bwahahahahahahaahahah !!!!!!!!!!
>I've been living in Paris for more than eighteen years, I know every
>corner of Paris and its suburbs.
>The only thing I can tell you is that it is turning rapidly into a
>fucking shithole because of the french niggers, arabs and turks.
>Except some fucking leftists or commies, the french people begins to be
>fed up with all the mess created by the french niggers, arabs and turks.
>
>To give you just an idea about how insecure Paris has become, the 31
>December 1999, french people are afraid to go to the Champs-Elysees, the
>most famous french avenue in the world ,to celebrate the millenium
>because of the gathering of the french niggers,arabs and turks from the
>Paris' suburbs there.
>Actually, there is a arab serial killer wandering in french trains, he
>has already killed one french woman and another english one.
>The reason why I read this newsgroup is that I go back and forth between
>southern California and France and I can assure you that some areas in
>southern California like Orange county are much safer than Paris and its
>suburbs.
The very fact that you refer to human beings as "niggers" pretty much
kills any credibility you could hope of having. I'm not going to argue
about immigration and Paris given that I have never been there and
have no idea what goes on. But there are others here that can.
dw
Calforina receives approx 76% of the federal taxes it pays. So you tax
dollars aren't being spent here - in fact we are supporting your welfare
butt.
dw
ipm wrote:
>
>
> So what? I know many people who have been to California. California is
> part of America. Some of my tax dollars go there. Either way, I have a
> hell of a lot more business posting here than that miserable geek, Tom
> Mohr.
>
MW
Fletch F. Fletch wrote in message <83dubi$abm$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>...
>"ipm" <i...@usaor.net> wrote in message news:385A772D...@usaor.net...
>> "The Devil's AdvocateŠ" wrote:
>> >
>> > On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 00:50:43 -0600, "MW" <ste...@mindspring.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >Johnny Yen wrote in message <01bf4822$a240b1e0$9a41d3cf@default>...
>> > >>I have seen those statistics before - and they are hardly
>complementary
>> > >>to US whites ! The correct headline should just say " less than Great
>> > >>Britain " which has more crime
>> > >
>> > >and more blacks
>> >
>> > Oh wow, England is like 1% black, whoopie-doo.
>>
>> 1% too many.
>>
>> For White Unity,
>> ipm
>
>their skin color if your assertion rests upon solid science. None exists.
>(Surveys of crime rates that do not control for other factors are not valid
>for this purpose.)
>
>Your assertion is that the higher the concentration of blacks, the higher
>the crime rate. As soon as a single exception is found, your assertion is
>logically false. Period. If an assertion does not ALWAYS predict reality
>accurately, then it is flawed and must be modified. This is not my
opinion;
>it is the scientific method.
But it's a simple matter to modify the assertion to state that their is a
strong correlation.
MW
Thomas Mohr wrote in message <385A0799...@magnet.at>...
>MW wrote:
>>
>> Johnny Yen wrote in message <01bf4822$a240b1e0$9a41d3cf@default>...
>> >I have seen those statistics before - and they are hardly complementary
>> >to US whites ! The correct headline should just say " less than Great
>> >Britain " which has more crime
>>
>> and more blacks
>
>the populattion are inversely correlated for a large segment of the
>population ?
I don't know what you're referring to.
>That contradicts your statement directly.
No, it doesn't. You think it refutes some inference you drew from my
statement. It does not even address my statement, let alone contradict it.
You may need to reread my statement, which was that Great Britain has more
blacks than do the other countries for which crime statistics were provided.
The Devil's Advocate©
>Calforina receives approx 76% of the federal taxes it pays. So you tax
>dollars aren't being spent here - in fact we are supporting your welfare
>butt.
Next time he's at the gravy train line in Wankerville, PA, let's see
him tell that to the whites standing in line.
ipm
>
> <charl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >BajaRat of Paris ? bwahahahahahahaahahah !!!!!!!!!!
> >I've been living in Paris for more than eighteen years, I know every
> >corner of Paris and its suburbs.
> >The only thing I can tell you is that it is turning rapidly into a
> >fucking shithole because of the french niggers, arabs and turks.
> >Except some fucking leftists or commies, the french people begins to be
> >fed up with all the mess created by the french niggers, arabs and turks.
> >
> >To give you just an idea about how insecure Paris has become, the 31
> >December 1999, french people are afraid to go to the Champs-Elysees, the
> >most famous french avenue in the world ,to celebrate the millenium
> >because of the gathering of the french niggers,arabs and turks from the
> >Paris' suburbs there.
> >Actually, there is a arab serial killer wandering in french trains, he
> >has already killed one french woman and another english one.
> >The reason why I read this newsgroup is that I go back and forth between
> >southern California and France and I can assure you that some areas in
> >southern California like Orange county are much safer than Paris and its
> >suburbs.
>
> The very fact that you refer to human beings as "niggers" pretty much
> kills any credibility you could hope of having.
Why's that? You talk about rednecks all the time. You never let that
bother you.
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ipm
>
>
> >I've worked with Blacks; had a Black roomate in college; served in the
> >military with Blacks. I know something about Blacks.
>
> You don't know shit about blacks. The very fact that you use the word
> nigger tells us all we need to know about you. The fact that you have
> no ability to deal with non-whites and blacks in particular as
> individuals shows us what we need to know about you.
I'm going to keep using it everytime you use redneck. So get used to
it.
> >I know that some
> >Blacks are nice people. I also know that despite what good they do, the
> >behavior of rotten ones overwhelm them.
>
> Bullshit. The majority of people in every ethnicity are decent. So to
> say that bad blacks outnumber the good ones is pure rubbish. You're a
> liar once again McKKKinney, as Mohr as proven. And you will lie to no
> end to defame any group which you have made your mind up not to like.
There's no law that says I have to like Blacks as a race. There are
certain individual Blacks I can deal with. Overall, in the public
arena, Blacks are a pain in the ass: never satisfied, always
complaining and bitching, always whining.
> >I simply decided that I don't
> >want to be around Blacks.
>
> And rest assured most blacks wouldn't want to be around a redneck like
> you either. And that includes this one. How many blacks are trying to
> move into Wankerville, PA, huh?
Blacks moved to Detriot and DC and look what they did to those places!
I'm damned glad Blacks aren't moving here. One of the reasons I moved
here was the lack of Blacks. There's fewer Blacks now than 30 years
ago.
> >I won't bother them and they won't bother me.
>
> Good, move to Iceland and the chance of that happening will be even
> less. At this point, I'd damn near be ready to give you some chunk of
> land somewhere to throw yahoos like you into if it'll shut your
> whining up permanently.
Quit dreaming. You'll move back to Africa before I move anywhere.
> >I don't want to hear their whining because I didn't have anything to do
> >with their problems.
>
> Bullshit. You are a self-proclaimed racist. Greg Taylor has plenty of
> quotes on his page to back that up. To whatever extent racism is a
> problem, you are the embodiment of it, you piece of pig shit.
Being a racist in itself means nothing when it comes to actually doing
anything to harm Blacks. Hell, you people do enough harm to yourselves.
I couldn't do a whole lot more if I wanted. The truth is that the ideas
I expouse would actually help Blacks in the long run by forcing you to
be self-sufficient. Of course, that wouldn't be the aim, but I think it
would be an effect.
> >As long as Blacks leave me alone, I'll do the
> >same.
>
> With pleasure, now please remove yourself from this newsgroup and
> confine yourself to your trailor park in Wankerville, PA.
No, I'll stay here. Just killfile me. Can't you figure out how?
> >Big deal, you're not White. When I was a young man I used to go to a
> >bar that was frequented by outlaw motorcycle gangs. I'm obviously still
> >alive, but you, as a Black, wouldn't have gotten out of there in one
> >piece. Your example proves nothing.
>
> It proves nothing if you are going on the assumption that the average
> black person has the behavioral level of a member of the Hell's
> Angels. Of course that's something that is only true in Ian
> McKKKinney's world. Most people would simply laugh at your dazzling
> deductions.
I know what every White person knows about Blacks. Stay away from them
as much as possible and you'll be safer. If you don't want to be a
crime victim, stay out of Black areas. When around Blacks never relax.
Those are simple rules that aren't perfect, but they remain good pieces
of general advice.
ipm
> There is nothing wrong with asserting that blacks are inferior because of
> their skin color if your assertion rests upon solid science. None exists.
> (Surveys of crime rates that do not control for other factors are not valid
> for this purpose.)
Skin color means almost nothing. Its their behavior and lack of brains.
> Your assertion is that the higher the concentration of blacks, the higher
> the crime rate. As soon as a single exception is found, your assertion is
> logically false. Period. If an assertion does not ALWAYS predict reality
> accurately, then it is flawed and must be modified. This is not my opinion;
> it is the scientific method.
Not necessarily, because there are many other factors. Even science
isn't perfect. Many scientific formulas are generalized. I've performed
physics lab experiments in college. Seldom do you get the exact result
as indicated by a formula. Usually you get something close.
As far as Blacks and crime go, there could be many factors which make
exact predictions difficult in every case. Some local factors such as
strong police could skew the prediction.
> Try making one full post which contains nothing but assertions that have no
> exceptions. (Hint: It will be blank.)
The fact that you recognize them as exceptions shows that you realize
there's a general rule.
ipm
>
Well, you could always move back to Africa and you wouldn't have to
hear people criticizing Blacks. The only problem is I doubt the Blacks
over there would want you.
Che'Gu Maru
repudiated the Second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of
America?
(I am a liberal who is accepting of many, many different points of view and
perspectives -- but don't mess with my Constitution!)
dw wrote:
> Calforina receives approx 76% of the federal taxes it pays. So you tax
> dollars aren't being spent here - in fact we are supporting your welfare
> butt.
>
> dw
Thomas Mohr
> You found that was the case in one analysis of US counties and it only
> occurred in a couple of isolated cases. The rest of the time the
> percentage of Blacks are proportional to the amount of crime.
No, McKinney. Again you prove that you understand nothing whatsoever
about statistical analysis.
Let me lecture you:
First, you can not compute a correlation out of "a few isolated cases".
Second, the percentage 10-55% blacks covers more >40% of the
US-counties. That is by no means "isolated".
Conclusion: you're a complete idiot.
> Mohr, you're obviously in no position to comment on anything having to
> do with Blacks. Your country has no Blacks. I'd like to drop you off in
> the middle of the Black area of Washington DC, Detriot, or NYC some
> summer night. Then you might get an education on Blacks. Most likely,
> however, your corpse would probably be found laying on the sidewalk the
> next day.
McKinney, let me lecture you again and listen to the voice of somebody
who knows more than you:
First, i have the knowledge to interpret analyses, you do not have it,
little college dropout. You "analyzing" is like the blind talking about
colours.
Second, I have a lot of non-white friends and believe me, every single
one of them is as high above you - intellectually and morally as a human
is above an amoeba. McKinney, a final lecture for you: My non-white
friends do NOT lie as you do, they do NOT libel as you do, they are NO
such perverts that babies make them nauseate and they are NO such
hypocrites like you.
Thomas Mohr
> He had the claim. Lets have the evidence.
>
> We already had one person from Paris say Yen is a liar and that the
> Blacks are spreading crime in Paris just like everywhere else.
Prove that this is race related ? No ? Miserably failed as usual,
collegedropout.
Che'Gu Maru
fought, minorities have invariably volunteered for combat far in excess of
the numbers you would expect based upon their population percentage.
American Natives, Blacks, Jews, Hispanics, and Orientals have all bled and
died selflessly for this nation, and the thanks they have usually received
was a racist kick in the teeth. Would it surprise you to learn there are
both Jews and Blacks from WWII who are still waiting to get the medals due
them, including the Congressional Medal of Honor. There is documentary
evidence that the ONLY reason they never received the medals despite the
best efforts of their commanding officers is because they were Black or
Jewish.
Over and over again, minorities have proven they love this nation far more
than the nation has ever loved them.
"The Devil's AdvocateŠ" wrote:
> You don't know shit about blacks. The very fact that you use the word
> nigger tells us all we need to know about you. The fact that you have
> no ability to deal with non-whites and blacks in particular as
> individuals shows us what we need to know about you.
>
>
Johnny Yen
ipm <i...@usaor.net> wrote in article <385A74A9...@usaor.net>...
> "The Devil's Advocate©" wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 08:16:51 -0500, ipm <i...@usaor.net> wrote:
> >
> > >Why are you even involved in this discussion?
> >
> > Why the hell are you even in this newsgroup? You don't live in nor
> > have ever been to California.
>
> So what?
It makes a big difference. The problem with this NG is that too many
people are posting about places which they have never lived in or
even been to. This is why I'm taking a break from alt.cal until after
the holidays. All these bigots are eating up too much of my valuable
time.
I know many people who have been to California
And I know many people who have been to Argentina, but I do not post in
soc.culture.argentina. Your point is ?
. California is
> part of America. Some of my tax dollars go there.
Some of your tax dollars go to Egypt. Does that mean that you are
an expert on Egyptian culture ?
Either way, I have a
> hell of a lot more business posting here than that miserable geek, Tom
> Mohr.
WRONG. Mohr, unlike you, has been to these places. You have not.
Anyways I will see all of you in Y2k...
Johnny Yen
charles_p75 <charl...@yahoo.com> wrote in article
<3859D633...@yahoo.com>...
> Bullshit !!
> I live in Paris actually, and Paris and its suburbs is crawling with
> niggers, arabs and turks who are turning it into a fucking shithole.
yes theres plenty of crime but less than the USA
> Come in Paris and see by yourself how the immigrants (blacks africans,
> arabs and turks) have turned this place into a very insecure one.
ah...someone is hankering for the good old days of Vichy when minorities
were in their place and Petain was in power...):):):
>
> Johnny Yen wrote:
>
> > I have seen those statistics before - and they are hardly complementary
> > to US whites ! The correct headline should just say " less than Great
Johnny Yen
The Devil's Advocate© <REMOVE-THI...@excite.com> wrote in article
<385b598...@news.earthlink.net>...
> On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 02:19:17 -0500, "rrcrumb" <zen...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >You ARE posting from France.
> >You sound as if you know what's going on.
>
> So what??? BajaRat posted from California but does that mean that he
> knew what was going on? This guy could simply be the "BajaRat" of
> Paris.
There are a lot of them. Le Pen gets plenty of votes. Albeit more down
south. My best friends in France were Tunisian immigrants. One of
them almost got me a job. So theres good and bad in all ethnicities
and races.
Siggy has actually lived in Paris as well as other parts of
> Europe
Yes, I did spend quite a bit of time in Paris - but I dont know how much
time someone has to spend somewhere in order to live there. However I
did live in Madrid, Spain. My time in Paris really IMHO counts as more of
an extended stay rather than anything else.
Yes, it is true there is crime and other urban problems in Paris and other
French cities, that is a fact. However, there being substantially fewer
firearms
amongst other causes, results in considerably less violent crime than the
USA.
Not that I am for gun prohibition in the US though.
The bottom line is that property crime may be similar all over the
world,but
violent crime is definately an American problem.
See you all in Jan.
Johnny Yen
ipm <i...@usaor.net> wrote in article <385A3BA4...@usaor.net>...
> Thomas Mohr wrote:
> >
> > ipm wrote:
> > >
> > > Johnny Yen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have seen those statistics before - and they are hardly
complementary
> > > > to US whites ! The correct headline should just say " less than
Great
> > > > Britain " which has more crime than most continental western
countries.
> > > > The truth is that US whites are far more crime prone than
Europeans.
> > > > The most dangerous slums of Paris or Madrid are safer than the most
> > > > white bread upper middle class suburbs in the USA
> > >
> > > That's nonsense.
> >
> > How can you judge ? Have you ever been to Europe ? No. You have no
> > interest in the *original* white culture you claim to defend.
>
> He had the claim. Lets have the evidence.
>
> We already had one person from Paris
He was not from Paris. He was from North Carolina, and a self proclaimed
Jew besides that.Also I never said there was no crime there -
just less than the USA.
say Yen is a liar and that the
> Blacks are spreading crime in Paris just like everywhere else.
Yes, there is black crime there. But less than the USA
Fletch F. Fletch
"MW" <ste...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
> Fletch F. Fletch wrote in message
<83dubi$abm$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>...
> >"ipm" <i...@usaor.net> wrote in message
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >Johnny Yen wrote in message <01bf4822$a240b1e0$9a41d3cf@default>...
> >complementary
> >> > >>to US whites ! The correct headline should just say " less than
Great
> >> > >>Britain " which has more crime
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > Oh wow, England is like 1% black, whoopie-doo.
> >>
> >> 1% too many.
> >>
> >> For White Unity,
> >> ipm
> >
> >their skin color if your assertion rests upon solid science. None
exists.
> >(Surveys of crime rates that do not control for other factors are not
valid
> >for this purpose.)
> >
> >the crime rate. As soon as a single exception is found, your assertion
is
> >logically false. Period. If an assertion does not ALWAYS predict
reality
> >accurately, then it is flawed and must be modified. This is not my
> opinion;
> >it is the scientific method.
>
>
> strong correlation.
>
>
Very true. My fault. I didn't make my point very well.
What I meant to write is that it is being asserted that blacks cause crime.
More blacks cause more crime. Fewer blacks cause less crime. I didn't mean
to imply that people are just talking about a correlation, which of course
explains nothing. I should have used the word 'cause' in my argument.
My point was that this causal assertion demonstrably fails. And modifying
this assertion to 'usually cause' exposes the certainty that there is an
unexplained cause or causes in at least the exceptional case. At this
point, it is only reasonable and prudent to wonder if this unknown cause or
causes is also present in any or all of the other cases. You know...
science.
Fletch
Johnny Yen
of the suburban slums which are the worst. I have been in Saint Denis,
one of the typical banlieue sinkholes of desperation in the suburbs,
during the day though. Dont get me wrong, those places do have their
crime, and the property crime levels are no different than the USA.
However VIOLENT crime is much less.
I personally feel safer just about anywhere in Europe than in the US
Johnny Yen
Plenty of times.
MW
Fletch F. Fletch wrote in message <83efjj$591$1...@nntp8.atl.mindspring.net>...
>
>"MW" <ste...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:83e5gd$2p3$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net...
>>
>> Fletch F. Fletch wrote in message
><83dubi$abm$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>...
>> >There is nothing wrong with asserting that blacks are inferior because
of
>> >their skin color if your assertion rests upon solid science. None
>exists.
>> >(Surveys of crime rates that do not control for other factors are not
>valid
>> >for this purpose.)
>> >
>> >Your assertion is that the higher the concentration of blacks, the
higher
>> >the crime rate. As soon as a single exception is found, your assertion
>is
>> >logically false. Period. If an assertion does not ALWAYS predict
>reality
>> >accurately, then it is flawed and must be modified. This is not my
>> opinion;
>> >it is the scientific method.
>>
>>
>> But it's a simple matter to modify the assertion to state that their is a
>> strong correlation.
>
>Very true. My fault. I didn't make my point very well.
No need to apologize.
>
>What I meant to write is that it is being asserted that blacks cause crime.
>More blacks cause more crime. Fewer blacks cause less crime. I didn't
mean
>to imply that people are just talking about a correlation, which of course
>explains nothing. I should have used the word 'cause' in my argument.
>
>My point was that this causal assertion demonstrably fails. And modifying
>this assertion to 'usually cause' exposes the certainty that there is an
>unexplained cause or causes in at least the exceptional case. At this
>point, it is only reasonable and prudent to wonder if this unknown cause or
>causes is also present in any or all of the other cases. You know...
>science.
I'm all for science. I am opposed, however, to the suppression of
scientific data that do not accord with one's political beliefs.
Fletch F. Fletch
Oh contraire, I often need to apologize.
> >
> >What I meant to write is that it is being asserted that blacks cause
crime.
> >More blacks cause more crime. Fewer blacks cause less crime. I didn't
> mean
> >to imply that people are just talking about a correlation, which of
course
> >explains nothing. I should have used the word 'cause' in my argument.
> >
> >My point was that this causal assertion demonstrably fails. And
modifying
> >this assertion to 'usually cause' exposes the certainty that there is an
> >unexplained cause or causes in at least the exceptional case. At this
> >point, it is only reasonable and prudent to wonder if this unknown cause
or
> >causes is also present in any or all of the other cases. You know...
> >science.
>
> I'm all for science. I am opposed, however, to the suppression of
> scientific data that do not accord with one's political beliefs.
>
Off hand, I can't think of any reason to suppress scientific data. In any
event, I really don't think that suppression of data is the major problem in
this debate. Rather, I think the problem is unscientific and sometimes
silly conclusions drawn from that data.
Fletch
The Devil's Advocate©
>Well, you could always move back to Africa
There's no such thing as moving "back" to somewhere you're not from,
Mr. college graduate.
>and you wouldn't have to
>hear people criticizing Blacks.
I have no problem with criticizing black culture. It's when people do
it with a good heart and good intentions that I have no problem. Such
as talk show hosts Dennis Prager or Larry Elder. It's when people with
evil intentions and feelings do it and in the process overgeneralize,
make faulty deductions, slander and use crude phrases like "you
people, et al." There are ways to deal with problems. You can either
discuss the issues with an olive branch in your hand or with a knife.
For some reason you choose the latter. You are filled with hate,
anger, and evil. You feed off of conflict. If you are honest with
yourself, you know you wish that crime would increase. If it decreased
and everyone is getting along, people like you and Pierce would have
nothing to do with your time. The scariest thought in the world to you
is that people of different races will integrate and be happy. Now
what does that say about you?
The Devil's Advocate©
Ah, so our long-time friend Gelding is back, huh?
>Let the deprogramming begin! Come now Devil. If blacks somehow began
>acting as whites, we "evil racist" would have nothing to be mad about.
>You know damn well if the only difference were merely skin color, then
>we whites would dislike you blacks no more than a blonde dislikes a
>brown-haired person.
Bullshit. McKKKinney said he had to actually discuss it with his wife
as to whether his daughter could invite a black friend to her birthday
party. What does that sound like to you? McKKKinney says he nauseates
at the sight of an innocent black baby, what does that sound like to
you? McKKKinney says he hopes I die if I go on a date with a white
woman, what does that sound like to you?
The Devil's Advocate©
>I'll be damned! If it aint the Devil. We locked horns many months
>ago Devil. I bet you still cringe when you hear the name "Gelding".
No, but for some odd reasons, the name conjures up images of castrated
horses.
>I still have many of our debates in my outbox. I am sorry that you
>have not learned more from the fine, white minds in this group. I was
>just passing by and thought I would read a few articles. Hell, I
>figured after I dismantled your crack-pot liberal theories;
I am not a liberal.
>after I
>destroyed every argument you had been programmed with, you would be
>leading a new life in support of racial separatism. Because I like
>you, I will offer my services again if you need another dose of
>deprogramming. I am here to help.
You can keep choking on your own cock all you want. You haven't
accomplished a damn thing.
The Devil's Advocate©
<chgu...@mail.hal-pc.org> wrote:
>I have always marveled over the fact that in every war the United States has
>fought, minorities have invariably volunteered for combat far in excess of
>the numbers you would expect based upon their population percentage.
>American Natives, Blacks, Jews, Hispanics, and Orientals have all bled and
>died selflessly for this nation, and the thanks they have usually received
>was a racist kick in the teeth. Would it surprise you to learn there are
>both Jews and Blacks from WWII who are still waiting to get the medals due
>them, including the Congressional Medal of Honor. There is documentary
>evidence that the ONLY reason they never received the medals despite the
>best efforts of their commanding officers is because they were Black or
>Jewish.
>
>Over and over again, minorities have proven they love this nation far more
>than the nation has ever loved them.
Yes, many of these white racist assholes don't realize that blacks
were fighting wars for this country before their earliest ancestor
even immigrated to America. Then somehow claim that this is "their"
country. Pathetic isn't it?
The Devil's Advocate©
<thoma...@magnet.at> wrote:
>Second, I have a lot of non-white friends and believe me, every single
>one of them is as high above you - intellectually and morally as a human
>is above an amoeba. McKinney, a final lecture for you: My non-white
>friends do NOT lie as you do, they do NOT libel as you do, they are NO
>such perverts that babies make them nauseate and they are NO such
>hypocrites like you.
And I'm sure they don't wish death on people that date a race outside
of their own.
ipm
>
> "ipm" <i...@usaor.net> wrote in message news:385A37C3...@usaor.net...
> > "The Devil's AdvocateŠ" wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 00:01:58 GMT, "Johnny Yen " <beat...@loop.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >I have seen those statistics before - and they are hardly complementary
> > > >to US whites ! The correct headline should just say " less than Great
> > > >The truth is that US whites are far more crime prone than Europeans.
> > > >The most dangerous slums of Paris or Madrid are safer than the most
> > > >white bread upper middle class suburbs in the USA
> > >
> > > Scandinavia or Austrailia vs. white Americans. I bet he wouldn't have
> > > the balls to post those stats. Although it looks like white American
> > > influence is pervading the Netherlands as they had an American-style
> > > school shooting a few days back.
> >
> > Why are you even involved in this discussion? Everybody knows that
> > you're race, the Black race, is the single most violent and criminal
> > bunch of people in America and probably everywhere else you live.
>
> It seems to me there is no more ludicrous assertion than one that begins
> with "Everbody knows...". The assertion is silly on its face and does not
> reflect well on the orginator.
>
> I suggest you try to prove your assertion. Of course, you will need either
> omnicience or an exhaustive survey of six billion people.
Prove my assertion? Are you deliberately being silly? Check the links
in my sig and they'll give you all the proof.
> > Don't worry you fuzzy head about the White criminals. They seldom
> > bother Blacks. OTOH, Black criminality is of concern for me because
> > your fellow Blacks are constantly robbing, murdering, and raping
> > Whites.
>
> Grammar check when implying your superiority to another group.
I've been on these newsgroups for four years. Whenever someone starts
picking on typos and minor grammatical errors it only means they have
nothing of substance to say.
--
For White Unity,
ipm
ipm
> Yes, many of these white racist assholes don't realize that blacks
> were fighting wars for this country before their earliest ancestor
> even immigrated to America.
I gotta hear you explain that amazing claim. Blacks fighting for
America before Whites came to North America! ROTFLOL
ipm
>
I don't care what they wish.
I really have to wonder just how many non-white friends Mohr has. I
think he's lying. They're aren't hardly any non-whites in Austria. But
who knows. Probably Whites want nothing to do with this race traitor,
so maybe what pitiful few friends he has are non-white. The fact that
they're friends with Mohr indicates they're nuts to begin with.
ipm
>
> >and you wouldn't have to
> >hear people criticizing Blacks.
>
> I have no problem with criticizing black culture. It's when people do
> it with a good heart and good intentions that I have no problem. Such
> as talk show hosts Dennis Prager or Larry Elder. It's when people with
> evil intentions and feelings do it and in the process overgeneralize,
> make faulty deductions, slander and use crude phrases like "you
> people, et al." There are ways to deal with problems.
The main problem I want to deal with is how to separate my race from
yours. What you Blacks think, believe, and do amongst yourselves is no
concern of mine. The only time Black behavior interests me is when it
affects Whites. The fact that you commit many crimes against each other
is deplorable and makes no sense from any perspective, but that's a
Black problem. That's your problem, not mine.
> You can either
> discuss the issues with an olive branch in your hand or with a knife.
> For some reason you choose the latter. You are filled with hate,
> anger, and evil. You feed off of conflict. If you are honest with
> yourself, you know you wish that crime would increase.
Buddy boy, you are the one that started off from day one with the
"redneck asshole" and "inbred trailer trash" crap, so don't lecture me
about any olive branches.
> If it decreased
> and everyone is getting along, people like you and Pierce would have
> nothing to do with your time. The scariest thought in the world to you
> is that people of different races will integrate and be happy. Now
> what does that say about you?
There's no happy integration. Look at the crime figures. Many problems
are caused by integration. This society is going down the tubes. Whites
are losing on every front because too many are buying into the Jewish
anti-White propaganda that gets rammed into their brains. In 100 years
Whites will be reduced to a minority in the country they created. How
the hell is that good for White people? We experience the viciousness
of non-whites now. It can only be worse when they can out-vote us. The
Blacks and Mestizos are actually killing the golden goose. By the time
you have taken over this country and Whites are reduced to minority
status, this country won't be fit to live in. It will be like Africa,
Mexico or Haiti. There won't be any food stamps, welfare, college
grants, and any of a thousand government programs that favor
non-whites. All that will be gone because there won't be enough White
people left to pay for it all. It will be like the downfall of South
Africa only spread out over several decades. If White people don't come
to their senses, you will have your world of "equality" and
integration, but it won't be a pretty world.
ipm
>
>
> Ah, so our long-time friend Gelding is back, huh?
>
> >Let the deprogramming begin! Come now Devil. If blacks somehow began
> >acting as whites, we "evil racist" would have nothing to be mad about.
> >You know damn well if the only difference were merely skin color, then
> >we whites would dislike you blacks no more than a blonde dislikes a
> >brown-haired person.
>
> Bullshit. McKKKinney said he had to actually discuss it with his wife
> as to whether his daughter could invite a black friend to her birthday
> party.
The girl wasn't a friend, only a schoolmate. BTW, we invited her. It
was no big deal.
> What does that sound like to you? McKKKinney says he nauseates
> at the sight of an innocent black baby, what does that sound like to
> you?
Actually what I said was that I became nauseated at the sight of a
mulatto baby thinking about the race treason that was committed. The
baby itself is not to blame for anything.
> McKKKinney says he hopes I die if I go on a date with a white
> woman, what does that sound like to you?
If you were ran over by a truck while misceginating with a White women,
that would be divine justice. I would think that God was outraged by
your unnatural behavior.
crusad...@my-deja.com
And you'd be correct, Ian!
For God, Race, and Nation,
Crusader
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
The Devil's Advocate©
>I gotta hear you explain that amazing claim. Blacks fighting for
>America before Whites came to North America! ROTFLOL
Most whites came to this country in the great migration, not during
the beginning. Wheras most blacks came here in the beginning and few
later on as racist immigration laws wouldn't allow it. Therefore, most
blacks have ancestry that goes back further in America than most
whites. Blacks have fought in every war this country fought, including
the Revolution, the conquest of the West and I've even heard for the
Confederacy.
The Devil's Advocate©
>I've been on these newsgroups for four years. Whenever someone starts
>picking on typos and minor grammatical errors it only means they have
>nothing of substance to say.
Funny you didn't say that to your buddy H. Murdock a few weeks back
when he started playing the role of English professor with me.
The Devil's Advocate©
>I really have to wonder just how many non-white friends Mohr has. I
>think he's lying. They're aren't hardly any non-whites in Austria. But
>who knows. Probably Whites want nothing to do with this race traitor,
>so maybe what pitiful few friends he has are non-white. The fact that
>they're friends with Mohr indicates they're nuts to begin with.
Mohr is a cancer researcher and a scientist, what are you? A postal
worker.
The Devil's Advocate©
>> I have no problem with criticizing black culture. It's when people do
>> it with a good heart and good intentions that I have no problem. Such
>> as talk show hosts Dennis Prager or Larry Elder. It's when people with
>> evil intentions and feelings do it and in the process overgeneralize,
>> make faulty deductions, slander and use crude phrases like "you
>> people, et al." There are ways to deal with problems.
>
>The main problem I want to deal with is how to separate my race from
>yours.
Worry about yourself, and not what millions of people whom you don't
know and could give a shit less about you will do. From the beating
you take in this NG on a daily basis, it doesn't seem as though you
got too much of a following. Add the fact that in 5 years, you can
count your W.I.N membership on one hand, and have digits left over. Or
that fact that Pierce blew his top because whites threatened to sue
some white supremacist book publisher(I laughed my ass off when I
heard that one).
>What you Blacks think, believe, and do amongst yourselves is no
>concern of mine.
What a way to think. To demonstrate my superiority over you, I see all
men as my brothers, and what happens to ALL people is of concern to
me. I am a cosmopolitan, you are closed-in, sheltered, rural trash.
>The only time Black behavior interests me is when it
>affects Whites. The fact that you commit many crimes against each other
>is deplorable and makes no sense from any perspective, but that's a
>Black problem. That's your problem, not mine.
As long as we live in the same country everyone's problem is everyone
elses. We are all Americans.
>> You can either
>> discuss the issues with an olive branch in your hand or with a knife.
>> For some reason you choose the latter. You are filled with hate,
>> anger, and evil. You feed off of conflict. If you are honest with
>> yourself, you know you wish that crime would increase.
>
>Buddy boy, you are the one that started off from day one with the
>"redneck asshole" and "inbred trailer trash" crap, so don't lecture me
>about any olive branches.
I call you those things because of your personality. Notice I haven't
used those terms on H. Murdock. As much as I disagree with him as
well, he at least seems to acknowledge me as an individual, has some
dignity and pretty much conducts himself civilly. We cannot say that
about you however. And yes, you are an asshole.
>There's no happy integration.
Speak for yourself. My workplace has people from every corner of the
world, whites, blacks, Mexicans, Asians, we eat dinner together, party
together and get along fine. It is haters like you that cannot.
>Look at the crime figures.
Crime is declining to your dismay. Most notably in large cities.
>Many problems
>are caused by integration.
Like Columbine, Jonesboro, Tulsa, et al I guess. Many problems as
caused by isolation as well. Look at the stupid attitudes that come
out of people that are sheltered and not exposed to the world, like
those that come from you. It's nice to talk to cosmopolitan people
like Siggy, Aviator and Mohr who have been around the world, respect
people of other groups and aren't filled with xenophobia and hate. You
are the opposite.
>This society is going down the tubes.
I'd be thinking that too if I lived in Wankerville, PA.
>Whites
>are losing on every front because too many are buying into the Jewish
>anti-White propaganda that gets rammed into their brains. In 100 years
>Whites will be reduced to a minority in the country they created.
Times change. Hey have you ever heard of Tiger Woods? In 100 years,
the average American will look like him. Nothing ever stays the same
forever. Societies rise, fall and new ones replace them. That is the
way of history and that cycle will not be stopped.
>How
>the hell is that good for White people? We experience the viciousness
>of non-whites now.
Whatever. Most non-whites are doing absolutely nothing to whites. You
must be having a bad acid trip or something. You see enemies lurking
behind every shadow.
>It can only be worse when they can out-vote us. The
>Blacks and Mestizos are actually killing the golden goose. By the time
>you have taken over this country and Whites are reduced to minority
>status, this country won't be fit to live in. It will be like Africa,
>Mexico or Haiti.
Being a little presumptious are we? That's the same thing they said
about white 1st generation immigrants. After a few generations they're
kids are so integrated into Ameican society that they are no
different. The same thing is the case with America's non-white
immigration of today.
> There won't be any food stamps, welfare, college
>grants, and any of a thousand government programs that favor
>non-whites.
Yeah, too bad, because everybody knows that 100% of non-whites are on
welfare.
>If White people don't come
>to their senses, you will have your world of "equality" and
>integration, but it won't be a pretty world.
Accept it. The world is changing. Rather than work on hate, you should
work on forging alliances with other people towards a common goal of
preserving the best aspects of America. Fighting for seperation is
something that'll never happen, so you are wasting your time and
energy on something thouroughly futile. As there is no way it could be
implemented without ethnic cleansing and death.
fight...@my-deja.com
"MW" <ste...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> Johnny Yen wrote in message <01bf4822$a240b1e0$9a41d3cf@default>...
complementary
> >to US whites ! The correct headline should just say " less than Great
> >Britain " which has more crime than most continental western
countries.
> >The truth is that US whites are far more crime prone than Europeans.
> >The most dangerous slums of Paris or Madrid
At least those which Mr.Yen has been in. From his past posts,
he appears to know Madrid better than Paris.
are safer than the most
> >white bread upper middle class suburbs in the USA
>
> You're crazy.
No, just correct. According to Lonely Planet's 1998 guide to
France, which I can vouchsafe as being very accurate ( as is
normal for the entire LP series ) :
" In general, France is a pretty safe place in which to live and
travel. Though property crime - especially theft involving vehicles -
is a MAJOR problem, it is extremely unlikely that you will be
physically assaulted while walking down the street. " ( page 93 )
" The south of France seems to have more crime than the north -
the Cote d'Azur and Provence are notorious. " ( pg. 94 )
" The rise in support for the extreme right wing National Front in
recent years reflects the growing racial intolerance in France, par-
ticularly against North African Muslims and to a somewhat lesser
extent blacks from sub-Saharan Africa and France's former colonies
and territories in the Caribbean.
In many parts of France, especially in the south ( Provence
and the Cote d'Azur ) places of entertainment such as bars and
discotheques are for all intents and purposes segregated : owners
and their ferocious bouncers make it abundantly clear what sort of
people are ' invited ' to use their nominally private facilities and
what sort are not. Such activities are possible in the land of liberte,
egalite, and fraternite because there is little civil rights enforce-
ment. " ( pg. 96 )
" In general, Paris is a safe city - especially when compared to any
large or medium sized urban area in the USA - and random assault on
the street is rare. You should, of course, always use common sense,
especially after nightfall, but the City of Lights is generally well
lit, and theres no reason not to use the metro until it stops running
( around 12:45 am ). As youll notice, women DO travel alone on the
metro late at night in most areas...the Bois de Boulogne and Bois de
Vincennes are best avoided after dark. " ( pgs. 174-175 )
BTW, the Fight Back family wishes you a happy Xmas, Kwanzah and
Ramadan. See you all in 2000...
j_2000 http://www.neta.com/~1stbooks
especially having to work so hard this time of year. Let's hear
it for the postal people !
--
j_2000 http://www.neta.com/~1stbooks/defense.htm The Americans
ipm
>
DA, you're so obnoxious most of the time, you deserve it!
ipm
>
So he says, but if he is some kind of researcher, he has to be the most
ignorant and obnoxious one that ever existed.
If I ever have a cancer question, I might listen to Mohr, but on race
he's a complete nincompoop.
Fletch F. Fletch
"ipm" <i...@usaor.net> wrote in message news:385B45F7...@usaor.net...
> "Fletch F. Fletch" wrote:
> >
> > "ipm" <i...@usaor.net> wrote in message
news:385A37C3...@usaor.net...
> > > >
complementary
> > > > >to US whites ! The correct headline should just say " less than
Great
> > > > >Britain " which has more crime than most continental western
countries.
> > > > >The truth is that US whites are far more crime prone than
Europeans.
> > > > >white bread upper middle class suburbs in the USA
> > > >
> > > > Scandinavia or Austrailia vs. white Americans. I bet he wouldn't
have
> > > > the balls to post those stats. Although it looks like white American
> > > > influence is pervading the Netherlands as they had an American-style
> > > > school shooting a few days back.
> > >
> > > Why are you even involved in this discussion? Everybody knows that
> > > you're race, the Black race, is the single most violent and criminal
> > > bunch of people in America and probably everywhere else you live.
> >
> > It seems to me there is no more ludicrous assertion than one that begins
> > with "Everbody knows...". The assertion is silly on its face and does
not
> > reflect well on the orginator.
> >
> > I suggest you try to prove your assertion. Of course, you will need
either
> > omnicience or an exhaustive survey of six billion people.
>
> Prove my assertion? Are you deliberately being silly? Check the links
> in my sig and they'll give you all the proof.
I've checked the links. If that is what you call proof, I suspect you have
no training in mathematics or science. You use the word proof far too
loosely.
>
>
> > > Don't worry you fuzzy head about the White criminals. They seldom
> > > bother Blacks. OTOH, Black criminality is of concern for me because
> > > your fellow Blacks are constantly robbing, murdering, and raping
> > > Whites.
> >
> > Grammar check when implying your superiority to another group.
>
> I've been on these newsgroups for four years. Whenever someone starts
> picking on typos and minor grammatical errors it only means they have
> nothing of substance to say.
>
I concede, that was not my shining moment. However, the conclusions you
draw from my faux pas are symptomatic of your forensic style. Namely, you
seem to confidently draw conclusions that are "neat, plausible, and wrong."
I do have something of substance to say and you clumsily avoid it. This
time I'll say it through a question: How does one prove an "Everybody
knows" assertion? Or were you using hyperbole? Try not to respond with
some version of the vapid "Are you crazy?" defense.
I'm trying to get you to defend an assertion with something resembling
logic, otherwise you're just stating opinion. Everyone is entitled to their
own opinion, but not all opinions are equal or valid.
Fletch
Fletch F. Fletch
"ipm" <i...@usaor.net> wrote in message news:385BD4F3...@usaor.net...
> "The Devil's AdvocateŠ" wrote:
> >
> >
> > >I really have to wonder just how many non-white friends Mohr has. I
> > >think he's lying. They're aren't hardly any non-whites in Austria. But
> > >who knows. Probably Whites want nothing to do with this race traitor,
> > >so maybe what pitiful few friends he has are non-white. The fact that
> > >they're friends with Mohr indicates they're nuts to begin with.
> >
> > Mohr is a cancer researcher and a scientist, what are you? A postal
> > worker.
>
> So he says, but if he is some kind of researcher, he has to be the most
> ignorant and obnoxious one that ever existed.
>
It seems to me that researchers embrace their ignorance in a particular
field and work damn hard to chip away at the edges of it. After all, if
they weren't ignorant, what would be the point of the research. I suspect
the fact that you cannot admit your ignorance is part of the reason you make
no progress.
Fletch
Thomas Mohr
> Big deal, you're not White. When I was a young man I used to go to a
> bar that was frequented by outlaw motorcycle gangs. I'm obviously still
> alive, but you, as a Black, wouldn't have gotten out of there in one
> piece. Your example proves nothing.
In short words, people following your ideology would have committed a
crime - driven by your ideology. Thanks for admitting.
The Devil's Advocate©
>The girl wasn't a friend, only a schoolmate. BTW, we invited her. It
>was no big deal.
The fact that you had to even bring it up in conversation is my point.
If I had a daughter, the races she invites over would be as irrelevant
as the eye colors. Nothing worthy of the slightest discussion.
>Actually what I said was that I became nauseated at the sight of a
>mulatto baby thinking about the race treason that was committed. The
>baby itself is not to blame for anything.
Of course you don't seem to extend this to your slavemaster ancesters.
You laud Thomas Jefferson even though the experts agree that he
fathered mulatto children. Perhaps you are only upset if marraige is
involved. I guess if it's white slavemasters married to white women
but sneaking out to the barn to get their jollys, that's not worthy of
mention. Nearly all blacks in America have some white in them, and
that's beause of slavery. So I guess everytime you see a black person,
you get disgusted at your own ancestors for committing "race treason."
>> McKKKinney says he hopes I die if I go on a date with a white
>> woman, what does that sound like to you?
>
>If you were ran over by a truck while misceginating with a White women,
>that would be divine justice.
You are committing a terrible sin by your above statement. Putting
words in God's mouth. The Bible makes no mention of race. Given that
the Bible is extremely specific about what it considers sin, whether
it is adultry or something as seemingly trivial as eating scavengers
for food, the Bible tells us what God thinks is wrong and right.
Nowhere is interracial marriage or race mentioned in the Bible. So
don't dare even think about using the Bible as a justification for
your opposition to interracial marraige. If you can find such a
passage that the Bible outlaws this, I'd love to see it.
>I would think that God was outraged by
>your unnatural behavior.
You are in for quite a surprised. Jesus was most likely not racially
"pure" himself. Since when are you a believer?
Thomas Mohr
> And you'd be correct, Ian!
>
> For God, Race, and Nation,
> Crusader
Crusader, mcKinney is a pervert who even thinks on the sight of babies
primarily about race - and he worships this god so heavily that he is
even mean to people.
Second, if two races occupy the same territorry, they will mix, and this
is the most natural thing of the world. Contrary to that, your worship
of your god "race" is perverted. *No* animal amnd *no* mentally healthy
human being does that.
Thomas Mohr
> > >I really have to wonder just how many non-white friends Mohr has. I
> > >think he's lying. They're aren't hardly any non-whites in Austria. But
> > >who knows. Probably Whites want nothing to do with this race traitor,
> > >so maybe what pitiful few friends he has are non-white. The fact that
> > >they're friends with Mohr indicates they're nuts to begin with.
> >
> > Mohr is a cancer researcher and a scientist, what are you? A postal
> > worker.
>
> So he says, but if he is some kind of researcher, he has to be the most
> ignorant and obnoxious one that ever existed.
McKinney, I am only obnoxious to people like you, who lie, libel and
slander - and who want to destroy my society.
> If I ever have a cancer question, I might listen to Mohr, but on race
> he's a complete nincompoop.
McKinney, too stupid to get something, eh ? The issue is not "race". the
issue is that you "analyse" things based on "data", and your analyses
are simply speaking ripe for the trash can. In analysing factors it is
completely irrelevant whether the input variables are crime-rate, race
or something else. The *technique* of the analysis is roughly the same -
and what I see presented by you is ripe for the trash can. However, I
don't expect that you get meaning of the word "generalization"
ipm
>
>
> >The girl wasn't a friend, only a schoolmate. BTW, we invited her. It
> >was no big deal.
>
> The fact that you had to even bring it up in conversation is my point.
> If I had a daughter, the races she invites over would be as irrelevant
> as the eye colors. Nothing worthy of the slightest discussion.
>
> >Actually what I said was that I became nauseated at the sight of a
> >mulatto baby thinking about the race treason that was committed. The
> >baby itself is not to blame for anything.
>
> Of course you don't seem to extend this to your slavemaster ancesters.
> You laud Thomas Jefferson even though the experts agree that he
> fathered mulatto children.
That's only a lie that you keep repeating. The so-called experts don't
agree on any such thing:
Washington Times
Sunday, January 3, 1999
"The respected British scientific journal, Nature, is suffering acute
embarrassment over the articles it published last month claiming a
study based on DNA analysis had proven beyond reasonable doubt that
Thomas Jefferson had fathered a son by Sally Hemmings, one of his
slaves....The most probable candidate (for fatherhood) according to
Herbert Barger, an authority on Jefferson's family history, was
Jefferson's forgotten younger brother, Randolph."
>
> >> McKKKinney says he hopes I die if I go on a date with a white
> >> woman, what does that sound like to you?
> >
> >If you were ran over by a truck while misceginating with a White women,
> >that would be divine justice.
>
> You are committing a terrible sin by your above statement. Putting
> words in God's mouth. The Bible makes no mention of race. Given that
> the Bible is extremely specific about what it considers sin, whether
> it is adultry or something as seemingly trivial as eating scavengers
> for food, the Bible tells us what God thinks is wrong and right.
I didn't say which god. I don't believe in the Bible. I try to keep all
Jewish propaganda out of my home.
> >I would think that God was outraged by
> >your unnatural behavior.
>
> You are in for quite a surprised. Jesus was most likely not racially
> "pure" himself. Since when are you a believer?
I don't care about Jesus.
Thomas Mohr
>
> Thomas Mohr wrote:
>
> > Second, if two races occupy the same territorry, they will mix, and this
> > is the most natural thing of the world. Contrary to that, your worship
> > of your god "race" is perverted. *No* animal amnd *no* mentally healthy
> > human being does that.
>
> comparatively little interracial breeding.
>
> Torpedoed and sunk.
McKinney, little interracial breeding ? Dream on. US-American blacks are
approx. 20% white and this is NOT little interracial breeding. Aside
that, social structure and laws prevented interracial breeding. Look at
South America, the boundaries between races etc., etc. The claim stands:
If two races occupy the same area then will sooner or later mix. As I
said, McKinney YOU are a pervert.
ipm
> Second, if two races occupy the same territorry, they will mix, and this
> is the most natural thing of the world. Contrary to that, your worship
> of your god "race" is perverted. *No* animal amnd *no* mentally healthy
> human being does that.
Whites and Blacks have been in America for 300 years and there's been
comparatively little interracial breeding.
Torpedoed and sunk.
--
The Devil's Advocate©
>I didn't say which god. I don't believe in the Bible. I try to keep all
>Jewish propaganda out of my home.
You said:
>If you were ran over by a truck while misceginating with a White women,
>that would be divine justice. I would think that God was outraged by
>your unnatural behavior.
So what God are you talking about? Zeus? I'd doubt if you're referring
to Allah or Buddha.
The Devil's Advocate©
> It sounds like the two races are not the same at all.
Your group-based thinking is peculiar to me. My thinking is
individual-based. Which means there are whites I have a lot in common
with, and there are whites I have nothing in common with. There are
blacks I have a lot in common with, and there are blacks I have
nothing in common with. Same for any other ethnicity. I don't give a
shit about "group behavior" whatever the hell that's supposed to mean,
I care about the behavior of individuals.
>I said we
>would see your race differently if there were no differences other
>than skin color.
If that followed, then McKKKinney would only find himself resentful
towards lower class blacks. He has made enough statements for us to
know that that he hates blacks no matter whether they are saints or
sinners. He hates our genes, not our characters.
>McKinney is simply responding to the behavior of the
>black group; moreover, his attitude is completely justifiable.
You are less intelligent than I had even given you credit for. So what
the hell do you think will result of a black elementary school girl,
probably 7 or 8 years old coming to his daughter birthday party? What
you think she's going to bust out an uzi and start selling crack at
the table? So why don't you tell, what is this "behavior of the black
group" that you refer to and what reasons would there be to think this
would be such a threat that 1 black girl couldn't come to your
daughter's birthday party? And furthermore, what "black behavior"
exist that cannot be found in any other group that would cause you to
question whether a child from that group should be let into an
elementary school b-day party?
> Remember our debate months ago? I finally succeeded in getting
>you to admit that there was nothing innately wrong with whites
>desiring to live only amongst themselves.
You got me to admit nothing. What will be the important question is
how do you "ethnically cleanse" America so that whites will live
amongst themselves. I'd love to hear your plan for this.
>It is not the
>responsibility of whites to figure-out why blacks are far more
>dangerous on average than whites are;
I never said anything like that. You are confusing ghetto subculture
with black culture in general. "Group averages" don't tell you much if
there are differences within that group.
>it is simply their right to
>close ranks and expel even a perceived threat to them. There is no
>universal-wrong in them doing so.
That is your *opinion* not a fact. I think it's horribly evil to force
someone out of a country thier ancestors have lived in for 400 years,
no matter what their provable individual characters is, just because
you don't like their skin color. So what are you going to do with a
hard-working man like my dad? He works about 60 hours a week and hard
so his family can have a middle class life, pays a shitload in taxes,
never been to jail, no criminal record, I guess you'll just walk up to
him and say,"I don't care what your individual record is, there are
people that resemble you that are selling crack in the projects,
therefore we are sending you back to Africa." Is this your plan?
>We here, who care passionately about
>this situation, are simply trying to convince our fellow whites that
>we have every natural-right to close our ranks and expel the invaders.
Where does the Constitution give you the right to throw citizens out
of the country for no reason?
> Sorry Devil, but natural-selection has provided clear boundaries
>between our races. What shocks me is that you are not as proud of
>your peoples unique, nature-given traits as we are of ours.
>Considering the history of your race, this is--to a
>degree--understandable. You should, however, understand that many of
>the problems your people face are due to the attempt to deny your true
>nature
And why don't you enlighten me Gelding, as to what my true nature is.
I guess I haven't been acting myself for the last 23 years.
> I like you Devil, and I have no ill-feelings toward you at all.
Except when you try and round me up to send me off to some country
I've never been to, right?
>I
>have had many black friends while in the military, and I am from a
>suburb in Detroit. If we had reasonable stats to show that there was
>a difference in the crime rates of green-eyed white people and blue
>eyed white people, that would not mean McKinney would not have a few
>good green-eyed friends However, he would be wrong if he tried to
>make policy for the entirety of the two groups based on his green-eyed
>friends behavior. If he were to see a large gathering of gree-eyed
>people, he would be foolish to judge there behavior by the few
>green-eyed people that he knew. The point is, if the stats show that
>these people are committing crimes at a far higher rate, then McKinney
>would increase his physical danger by entering into their midst. And
>it would not be his responsibility to figure out why the differences
>were there, only that the risk of danger to him had increased
>significantly. It would be the responsibility of the green-eyed
>people to figure out why their crime numbers were so different. It
>doesn't mean that he would be filled with hatred for this
>apprehension, only that he was acting in accord with his need for
>self-preservation. He could still be great friends with the few
>green-eyed people that he enjoyed spending time with. It doesn't mean
>he would kill or torture little green-eyed children if he had the
>chance, only that he fears what they will become at a later time. And
>the fears are based on the observations of those people.
A good solution for you would be to seperate. I'm sure the black
population of Russia is less than %.01. I'm sure they've got a spot
open for you.
Fletch F. Fletch
"ipm" <i...@usaor.net> wrote in message news:385D4E2F...@usaor.net...
> Thomas Mohr wrote:
>
> > Second, if two races occupy the same territorry, they will mix, and this
> > is the most natural thing of the world. Contrary to that, your worship
> > of your god "race" is perverted. *No* animal amnd *no* mentally healthy
> > human being does that.
>
> Whites and Blacks have been in America for 300 years and there's been
> comparatively little interracial breeding.
>
Compared to what? In any event, even you concede there has been some
mixing. So the assertion remains that wherever races coexist (obviously,
for a substantial period of time), they mix and that this is natural. If
mixing happens every time (and you don't seem to dispute that), then it
seems natural by definition.
Fletch
David N.
ipm wrote in message <385D4E2F...@usaor.net>...
>Thomas Mohr wrote:
>
>> Second, if two races occupy the same territorry, they will mix, and this
>> is the most natural thing of the world. Contrary to that, your worship
>> of your god "race" is perverted. *No* animal amnd *no* mentally healthy
>> human being does that.
>
>Whites and Blacks have been in America for 300 years and there's been
>comparatively little interracial breeding.
>
Byker
Gelding <m...@home.com> wrote in message
news:tcbr5sg07tucl6gnl...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:57:40 GMT, REMOVE-THI...@excite.com
> (The Devil's AdvocateŠ) wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 18 Dec 1999 12:34:37 -0800, Gelding <m...@home.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> It sounds like the two races are not the same at all.
> >
> >Your group-based thinking is peculiar to me. My thinking is
> >individual-based. Which means there are whites I have a lot in common
> >with, and there are whites I have nothing in common with. There are
> >blacks I have a lot in common with, and there are blacks I have
> >nothing in common with. Same for any other ethnicity. I don't give a
> >shit about "group behavior" whatever the hell that's supposed to mean,
> >I care about the behavior of individuals.
>
> differences. Your problem is, you refuse to recognize those
> differences. They are there and must be dealt with.
>
> >
> >>I said we
> >>would see your race differently if there were no differences other
> >>than skin color.
> >
> >If that followed, then McKKKinney would only find himself resentful
> >towards lower class blacks.
>
> to an equal number of whites in the same class. Blacks are fond of
> saying that there are more poor white people in this country than
> there are blacks. Then why is it that we have blacks committing
> something like 60 percent of all murders in this country? If it is
> only economics, then whites should be committing around 80 percent of
> the murders in this country. Your argument is old and worn out. Lack
> of money does not make people murder.
Genes do.
> > He has made enough statements for us to
> >know that that he hates blacks no matter whether they are saints or
> >sinners. He hates our genes, not our characters.
>
> The genes are responsible for your character. When King said judge us
> by the content of our character, Whites could have screamed "We do
> judge you by the content of your character!"
>
> >
> >>McKinney is simply responding to the behavior of the
> >>black group; moreover, his attitude is completely justifiable.
> >
> >You are less intelligent than I had even given you credit for.
>
> Really.
>
> > So what
> >the hell do you think will result of a black elementary school girl,
> >probably 7 or 8 years old coming to his daughter birthday party?
>
> And if his daughter likes this girl, feels she can then become friends
> with any other black, sees a group of black youth, doesn't realize
> that she is 7 times more likely to be murdered than if she were with
> the same number of white youth? There is no problem with that one and
> only girl, but there is with the group that she belongs to. Did the
> US have anything to fear from the Japanese children that died in the
> atom bombs? If not, why did we kill them? We did it because all
> Japanese had to bear the burden of the group that they belonged to.
> We could have invaded on foot, searched every house and street for
> only the service men. We would have lost thousands and thousands of
> men. The point is, the girl, by herself, poses no threat to whites in
> this society. But when she turns-out 7 or 8 kids, 1 or 2 of them will
> probably wind up in the legal system. Is the mother that warps a
> child into a killer responsible at all? It is not all the black
> mothers that we fear, it is what they make that poses a threat to our
> people. If you knew that a certain model of plane had been involved
> in more air-crashes that another model, would you rather your daughter
> look at both planes individually, or would you rather her take the
> model that had been involved in fewer crashes? Now it doesn't mean
> that the suspect model has anything wrong with it as an individual
> plane. Now is it for your daughter to figure-out what the determining
> factor of these crashes are and to continue to ride on these planes
> because she is told that there is a debate about the causes? Or is it
> the responsibility of the makers themselves to figure the problem out,
> and accept the loss of contact with customers until the reason is
> found? Groups do matter Devil. Humans group almost everything in the
> universe.
>
>
> > What
> >you think she's going to bust out an uzi and start selling crack at
> >the table?
>
> Certainly not, but she may have a boyfriend in a few years that is 7
> times more likely to kill his daughter than if her friend was white.
> Get it?
>
> > So why don't you tell, what is this "behavior of the black
> >group" that you refer to and what reasons would there be to think this
> >would be such a threat that 1 black girl couldn't come to your
> >daughter's birthday party?
>
> See above
>
>
> > And furthermore, what "black behavior"
> >exist that cannot be found in any other group that would cause you to
> >question whether a child from that group should be let into an
> >elementary school b-day party?
>
> The PERCENTAGE of violence in your group is far higher than in the
> other group. The behavior exists in all groups to a certain extent.
> Your people made that model of plane, you figure out what is wrong,
> and in the mean-time, we need to get away from your asses until you
> get the shit straight.
>
> >
> >> Remember our debate months ago? I finally succeeded in getting
> >>you to admit that there was nothing innately wrong with whites
> >>desiring to live only amongst themselves.
> >
> >You got me to admit nothing.
>
> Ok, then you were being unreasonable in the face of truth.
>
>
> > What will be the important question is
> >how do you "ethnically cleanse" America so that whites will live
> >amongst themselves. I'd love to hear your plan for this.
>
> I have no plan for this right now. I am open-minded, and I am
> willing to listen to all possible solutions. What is important now is
> that we get it across to our people that it is not acceptable that
> they should continue to ride on the faulty plane.
>
> >
> >>It is not the
> >>responsibility of whites to figure-out why blacks are far more
> >>dangerous on average than whites are;
> >
> >I never said anything like that. You are confusing ghetto subculture
> >with black culture in general. "Group averages" don't tell you much if
> >there are differences within that group.
>
> But the differences, then, should be the same in the white group, get
> it? Cut it any way you want to devil, you cannot possibly show that
> whites and blacks are equal in their violent behavior.
>
> >
> >>it is simply their right to
> >>close ranks and expel even a perceived threat to them. There is no
> >>universal-wrong in them doing so.
> >
> >That is your *opinion* not a fact. I think it's horribly evil to force
> >someone out of a country thier ancestors have lived in for 400 years,
>
> I never said we needed to do any such thing. Could this be what you
> call a "stereo-type?"
>
> >no matter what their provable individual characters is, just because
> >you don't like their skin color.
>
> Have you learned nothing? Skin color means no more than eye or hair
> color. Actions. however, mean everything.
>
>
> > So what are you going to do with a
> >hard-working man like my dad? He works about 60 hours a week and hard
> >so his family can have a middle class life, pays a shitload in taxes,
> >never been to jail, no criminal record, I guess you'll just walk up to
> >him and say,"I don't care what your individual record is, there are
> >people that resemble you that are selling crack in the projects,
> >therefore we are sending you back to Africa." Is this your plan?
>
> No. I would approach him with respect, lay-out the problem to him
> rationally, and ask for his help in figuring-out how to peacefully
> separate our two peoples.
>
> >
> >>We here, who care passionately about
> >>this situation, are simply trying to convince our fellow whites that
> >>we have every natural-right to close our ranks and expel the invaders.
> >
> >Where does the Constitution give you the right to throw citizens out
> >of the country for no reason?
>
> Our group is not defined by the borders of a country.
>
> >
> >> Sorry Devil, but natural-selection has provided clear boundaries
> >>between our races. What shocks me is that you are not as proud of
> >>your peoples unique, nature-given traits as we are of ours.
> >>Considering the history of your race, this is--to a
> >>degree--understandable. You should, however, understand that many of
> >>the problems your people face are due to the attempt to deny your true
> >>nature
> >
> >And why don't you enlighten me Gelding, as to what my true nature is.
> >I guess I haven't been acting myself for the last 23 years.
>
> I have no idea what the individual nature of that single plane is, but
> I know I would rather not get on until the makers got together and
> figured-out what was wrong with the design.
>
> >
> >> I like you Devil, and I have no ill-feelings toward you at all.
> >
> >Except when you try and round me up to send me off to some country
> >I've never been to, right?
>
> Wrong. Separation does not equal hatred.
> Now come on, I can tell you like me.
>
>
> Gelding
> "all you gotta do is grease it down and then everything is fine"
> Frank Zappa.
>
Fletch F. Fletch
"Byker" <by...@do-rag.net> wrote in message
news:tzf74.114855$7I4.2...@news5.giganews.com...
A geneticist has entered the discussion. How refreshing?
Fletch
MW
fight...@my-deja.com wrote in message <83gjh7$re1$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>In article <83cmcd$ck7$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>,
> "MW" <ste...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>> Johnny Yen wrote in message <01bf4822$a240b1e0$9a41d3cf@default>...
>complementary
>> >to US whites ! The correct headline should just say " less than Great
>> >Britain " which has more crime than most continental western
>countries.
>> >The truth is that US whites are far more crime prone than Europeans.
>> >The most dangerous slums of Paris or Madrid
>
>he appears to know Madrid better than Paris.
>
>> >white bread upper middle class suburbs in the USA
>>
>
>No, just correct. According to Lonely Planet's 1998 guide to
>France, which I can vouchsafe as being very accurate ( as is
>normal for the entire LP series ) :
>
>" In general, France is a pretty safe place in which to live and
>travel. Though property crime - especially theft involving vehicles -
>is a MAJOR problem, it is extremely unlikely that you will be
>physically assaulted while walking down the street. " ( page 93 )
Uh, how does that show him to be correct? In most "white bread upper middle
class suburbs in the USA" the prospects of physical assault are less than
"extremely unlikely."
John Lee
> > He has made enough statements for us to
> >know that that he hates blacks no matter whether they are saints or
> >sinners. He hates our genes, not our characters.
>
> The genes are responsible for your character. When King said judge us
> by the content of our character, Whites could have screamed "We do
> judge you by the content of your character!"
On what evidence do you base this claim? As far as I know, it has not been
proven that genes have any effect on character.
> > What will be the important question is
> >how do you "ethnically cleanse" America so that whites will live
> >amongst themselves. I'd love to hear your plan for this.
>
> I have no plan for this right now. I am open-minded, and I am
> willing to listen to all possible solutions. What is important now is
> that we get it across to our people that it is not acceptable that
> they should continue to ride on the faulty plane.
How can you even be open to consideration of such an idea anyway? You
claim that the white ehnic group can be considered superior to the black
ethnic group, and yet you are open to the idea of mass murder?
Yours,
J. Lee
--
"One selector, he'll select your soul."
klaatu
> > >know that that he hates blacks no matter whether they are saints or
> > >sinners. He hates our genes, not our characters.
> >
> > by the content of our character, Whites could have screamed "We do
> > judge you by the content of your character!"
>
> On what evidence do you base this claim? As far as I know, it has not been
> proven that genes have any effect on character.
There may be some genetic influence in regards to depressive illnesses,
predisposition to the sort of delusional thinking generally categorized as
"religion", possibly schizophrenia, etc.
There may also be some very slight support to the contention -- which
remains far from scientifically proven -- that people who have only recently
been removed from very low-tech tribal contexts may be predisposed to
"acting without thinking", which is definitely pro-survival when thinking
before acting will make you dinner for large predators. It may as easily be
argued that the ability to think very quickly would be as successful an
adaptation and given the human prediliction for surviving mostly on
brainpower, more likely.
>
> > > What will be the important question is
> > >how do you "ethnically cleanse" America so that whites will live
> > >amongst themselves. I'd love to hear your plan for this.
> >
> > I have no plan for this right now. I am open-minded, and I am
> > willing to listen to all possible solutions. What is important now is
> > that we get it across to our people that it is not acceptable that
> > they should continue to ride on the faulty plane.
>
> How can you even be open to consideration of such an idea anyway? You
> claim that the white ehnic group can be considered superior to the black
> ethnic group, and yet you are open to the idea of mass murder?
With respect Mr Lee, "ethnic cleansing" is improperly mis-equated with mass
murder; in a perfect world it might be possible for an orderly relocation
and separation of ethnic groups.
However, the world is in fact far from perfect and your mis-equation may be
mis-equation only as a fineness of semantic usage. I will indicate the
partition of Pakistan from India as the perfect example; it was
exceptionally violent although few are aware of this.
I would expect the poster to whom you respond to respond with the rabid
mentation of "well they're all just animals, so it could hardly be called
murder". Thus it would assume the rhetorical position that superiority
inherently confers primacy if not divinity and in any case whoever writes
the histories is, in the end of the matter, "shown to be right".
Or to be less technical, "he's just a fscking racist psycho and doesn't care
through what loops his logic must jump to arrive at a conclusion apparently
supporting his emotional need to kill people who differ from him".
>
> Yours,
> J. Lee
>
> --
> "One selector, he'll select your soul."
--
"We look through a glass but darkly:
What we see is more colored by our beliefs,
than what we believe is colored by what we see."
crusad...@my-deja.com
Thomas Mohr <thoma...@magnet.at> wrote:
> crusad...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > And you'd be correct, Ian!
> >
> > For God, Race, and Nation,
> > Crusader
>
> Crusader, mcKinney is a pervert who even thinks on the sight of babies
> primarily about race - and he worships this god so heavily that he is
> even mean to people.
Mohr, what he said is that the thought of a White woman giving birth to
a negro nauseates him. And I agree with him. It's nothing against the
child--the nausea comes from the abominable act that created the child.
For God, Race, and Nation,
Crusader
crusad...@my-deja.com
Thomas Mohr <thoma...@magnet.at> wrote:
> ipm wrote:
> >
> > Thomas Mohr wrote:
> >
> > > Second, if two races occupy the same territorry, they will mix,
and this
> > > is the most natural thing of the world. Contrary to that, your
worship
> > > of your god "race" is perverted. *No* animal amnd *no* mentally
healthy
> > > human being does that.
> >
> > Whites and Blacks have been in America for 300 years and there's
been
> > comparatively little interracial breeding.
> >
> > Torpedoed and sunk.
>
are
> approx. 20% white and this is NOT little interracial breeding. Aside
> that, social structure and laws prevented interracial breeding. Look
at
> South America, the boundaries between races etc., etc. The claim
stands:
> If two races occupy the same area then will sooner or later mix. As I
> said, McKinney YOU are a pervert.
>
Not true. The race-mixers are the perverts--that's why there were laws
against the perversion. Just like there were laws against faggotry.
There have always been fags, pedophiles, race-mixers and other
assortments of perverts.
Moreover, if you lock a bunch of men in a prison there will be faggotry.
Does that make faggotry normal and anyone who opposes it a pervert?
I think not. The same applies to your race-mixing analogy, Mohr.
crusad...@my-deja.com
ipm <i...@usaor.net> wrote:
> I didn't say which god. I don't believe in the Bible. I try to keep
> all Jewish propaganda out of my home.
Me too. That's why I got rid of my NA handbook after I quit the
Jew-inspired infidel organization.
> I don't care about Jesus.
Neither do the Jews, your allies.
Fuck winter solstice, have a Merry CHRISTmas!
crusad...@my-deja.com
REMOVE-THI...@excite.com wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 15:08:53 -0500, ipm <i...@usaor.net> wrote:
>
> >I didn't say which god. I don't believe in the Bible. I try to keep
all
> >Jewish propaganda out of my home.
>
>
> >If you were ran over by a truck while misceginating with a White
women,
> >that would be divine justice. I would think that God was outraged by
> >your unnatural behavior.
>
> So what God are you talking about? Zeus? I'd doubt if you're referring
> to Allah or Buddha.
His "religious" beliefs are more like that of Moondancer Shadowseeker's.
crusad...@my-deja.com
> So what God are you talking about? Zeus? I'd doubt if you're referring
> to Allah or Buddha.
Good point, Devil boy. The term "God" is only used by monotheists (i.e.
Judaism, Christianity, and Islam).
You see, European civilization is so saturated with Christianity that
even the infidels use Christian terminology. I've tried to explain this
to ipm, but it's like banging your head off the wall. He believes that
European culture is merely ancient Germanic barbarism and savagry. If
that's his ideal, there is nothing I can do to help him. You know how he
is always preaching free speech? He kicked me off of his listserver
because I said some things he disagreed with. Would he have a DJ fired
if he disagreed with the DJ? You could bet your ass.
You are right in pointing out the ridiculousness of a heathen using the
term God. He should have said "gods."
I normally wouldn't attack another racialist in public, but since the
heathen booted me from his list and is too much of a coward to join
mine, I'm left with little choice. Moreover, I have zero tolerance for
blasphemy at Christmas time.
If the clown and his Pagan Alliance buddies decide to engage in
telephone harassment etc., I'll have their asses hauled into federal
court faster than they can say hail odin.
David N.
Impy
crusad...@my-deja.com wrote in message <83nn68$hpq$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
Thomas Mohr
> > If two races occupy the same area then will sooner or later mix. As I
> > said, McKinney YOU are a pervert.
> >
>
> Not true. The race-mixers are the perverts--that's why there were laws
> against the perversion. Just like there were laws against faggotry.
And there are laws against you spreading hate. According to your logic,
that makes you a pervert.
> There have always been fags, pedophiles, race-mixers and other
> assortments of perverts.
Like you, f.i. ?
> Moreover, if you lock a bunch of men in a prison there will be faggotry.
> Does that make faggotry normal and anyone who opposes it a pervert?
>
> I think not. The same applies to your race-mixing analogy, Mohr.
No, little Jason. The same does *not* apply to racemixing, because there
are minor, but decisive differences.
First, faggotry, murder, pedophilia, etc *are* against nature, therefore
the percentage of people (or animals) doing this in a population is
rather low and never exceed a certain percentage. Race-mixing is *not*
against nature since in *every single known case* race mixing occures
totally and 100% when two races occupy the same area.
Crusader, you are simply a hatemongering little pervert. Is it maybe
possible that during your marine career a black outwitted you in
becoming PFC ? Or did you maybe have a female lieutenant who knew who
you are and treated you accordingly ?
klaatu
>
> On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:08:01 +0000, klaatu <kla...@clark.net> wrote:
>
> >John Lee wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <tcbr5sg07tucl6gnl...@4ax.com>, Gelding wrote:
> >>
> >> > >know that that he hates blacks no matter whether they are saints or
> >> > >sinners. He hates our genes, not our characters.
> >> >
> >> > by the content of our character, Whites could have screamed "We do
> >> > judge you by the content of your character!"
> >>
> >> On what evidence do you base this claim? As far as I know, it has not been
> >> proven that genes have any effect on character.
> >
> >There may be some genetic influence in regards to depressive illnesses,
> >predisposition to the sort of delusional thinking generally categorized as
> >"religion", possibly schizophrenia, etc.
>
> about this before you answer. You may have every breeder of dogs,
> bulls, and breeders of every other domestic animal to deal with. I'll
> make it simple: can a breed of dog be naturally more aggressive than
> another breed?
While I tend to disagree with them, even the owners of pit-bulls claim that
it's nurture (or the opposite of that) and not nature which makes pit-bulls
aggressive.
> If genetics cannot do this, can you tell us the
> barrier nature uses to limit all change through natural-selection to
> physical changes only?
I can't see how it's possible. In any case, much of a person's mental state
is easily afffected by chemical changes in the body, witness drugs,
hormones, even smells, etc.
>
> >
> >There may also be some very slight support to the contention -- which
> >remains far from scientifically proven -- that people who have only recently
> >been removed from very low-tech tribal contexts may be predisposed to
> >"acting without thinking", which is definitely pro-survival when thinking
> >before acting will make you dinner for large predators. It may as easily be
> >argued that the ability to think very quickly would be as successful an
> >adaptation and given the human prediliction for surviving mostly on
> >brainpower, more likely.
>
> And a predisposition to aggression? How about IQ levels?
All males are predisposed to aggression.
BTW -- if you're fighting a lion, you need that aggression. You also need to
have a great deal of the sort of intelligence which is associated with
athletics, such as extremely rapid calculation of trajectory, fine control
of large muscle groups, etc etc., if you're going to get the point of that
spear into the lion's eye socket.
Clearly, as long as there are lions around, this sort of intelligence will
be selected for... by the lions themselves.
>
> >
> >>
> >> > > What will be the important question is
> >> > >how do you "ethnically cleanse" America so that whites will live
> >> > >amongst themselves. I'd love to hear your plan for this.
> >> >
> >> > I have no plan for this right now. I am open-minded, and I am
> >> > willing to listen to all possible solutions. What is important now is
> >> > that we get it across to our people that it is not acceptable that
> >> > they should continue to ride on the faulty plane.
> >>
> >> How can you even be open to consideration of such an idea anyway? You
> >> claim that the white ehnic group can be considered superior to the black
> >> ethnic group, and yet you are open to the idea of mass murder?
> >
> >With respect Mr Lee, "ethnic cleansing" is improperly mis-equated with mass
> >murder; in a perfect world it might be possible for an orderly relocation
> >and separation of ethnic groups.
>
> The world has to be perfect for two groups to separate? Wow! Ok,
> I'll play along. In a perfect world, there would be no difference in
> races of men and animals other than just skin color. That does feel
> good, I see why you guys use it so much.
The point I make later is that when India and Pakistan seperated, and not on
the basis of race, but on the basis of religion, millions were injured, with
many of them dying. All that was supposed to happen was that the Hindus were
supposed to walk east, and the Muslims were supposed to walk west.
>
> >
> >However, the world is in fact far from perfect
>
> Yes indeed, just take a look at the black crime numbers. Damn us
> white people, how dare we not want to hang around and be murdered at a
> higher rate than we would be if we were only amongst ourselves. How
> selfish we are.
For what it's worth, blacks kill blacks at a much greater rate than they
kill us. In parts of Washington DC, the average life expectancy for a black
male is 18 years. For the nation as a whole, I think that one in 8 black
males dies violently at the hands of another black male. But as to whether
this is inherent in the black or inherent in the system in which they live
their lives, has yet to be reliably determined.
>
> > and your mis-equation may be
> >mis-equation only as a fineness of semantic usage. I will indicate the
> >partition of Pakistan from India as the perfect example; it was
> >exceptionally violent although few are aware of this.
>
> And so no other groups should attempt to separate because of this? I
> see. Good point.
No, if you want to live separately from blacks, feel free to do so insofar
as you don't rely on violence to do it. Feel free to be joined by as many
who feel like you as you can gather together. I guaranteed blacks probably
won't be interested in living amongst a bunch of people who can't stand
them.
>
> >
> >I would expect the poster to whom you respond to respond with the rabid
> >mentation of "well they're all just animals, so it could hardly be called
> >murder".
>
> Damn, You sound so prejudice. Could it be? Stereo-typing?
I dunno. I was raised to be prejudiced against Nazis. My father won medals
in WWII for killing lots of them. He liked it, and thought he should share
his pride with his boy. I'm not a violent sort of guy, but I respect my dad
and I respect what he did even more. He and his generation saved the world
from people who started out talking about "room to breathe free of the
inferior breeds". And by the way, he was nearly-pure German raised by people
who spoke German.
>
> > Thus it would assume the rhetorical position that superiority
> >inherently confers primacy if not divinity and in any case whoever writes
> >the histories is, in the end of the matter, "shown to be right".
> >Or to be less technical,
>
> You mean your going to stop talking in jibberish in order to hide your
> poor stance?
If you can't understand that summation of twisted logic and rationalization,
you clearly have no right to complain about other ethnicities because you
feel they have low IQ.
>
> > "he's just a fscking racist psycho and doesn't care
> >through what loops his logic must jump to arrive at a conclusion apparently
> >supporting his emotional need to kill people who differ from him".
>
> Yes, you surely need to hide your position by twisting your sentences.
> Hopefully for you, it may discourage some from seeing the pathetic
> core of your arguments.
Actually, I hope they _can_ get through to the core of the arguments. Then
perhaps they may check their own thinking and decide whether they are
thinking according to how they feel, or if they feel according to their
thinking.
>
> I have learned one thing my white brothers: none of these idiots have
> the truth on their side. It has become quite the sport to see which
> of them can hide their nonsense the best. Some are too easy. Others,
> like this fellow, make you pick each sentence apart in order to expose
> the nonsense.
You have yet to expose the nonsense.
> I have come to the conclusion that we can divide them
> into two groups: those that are stupid enough to really believe the
> silly position that there are no significant differences in the races,
I don't for a moment think that there are no significant differences in the
races. I just don't attach the particular significance to that, which you
attach to it. I certainly don't come to the conclusion that the races should
separate.
> and those that know the real truth but feel the lie is far better for
> the world. It is kind of fun to see if you can pick them out. This
> fellow is probably a white liberal who knows the truth, but feels the
> world would be better-off with the lie.
Sorry. I'm in many ways so conservative it would make your head spin. When
it comes to the US Constitution and its enemies, I am a bit to the Right of
Attila the Hun.
There are lots of people I dislike on the basis of their looks, but since I
believe firmly in the 14th Amendment, not to mention the lesson all little
kids should learn at their first Hallowe'en, judging an individual's content
or capabilities on the basis of external appearance is a bad idea and
treating them differently on that basis is unConstitutional.
> Devil, on the other hand, is
> black; I believe he also knows the truth about his people, but he has
> the added pressure of being one himself. Others are uninformed, and
> have fallen for the media propaganda machine; however, they can be
> deprogrammed when given a steady diet of their own people speaking the
> truth.
You propose fighting brainwashing with brainwashing? Hardly a path to true
enlightenment.
But then again, "the object of rhetoric is not to inform, but to convince".
> The one great thing we have on our side is the truth.
Have you? You may honestly believe you have. You might in fact convince
others that you have the truth.
> In the
> end, the inner nature of the races will determine their future, and
> that is when we shall be vindicated. The truth is our ultimate
> weapon, and their ultimate downfall. Damn I love truth and nature!
>
> Gelding
>
> "all you gotta do is grease it down and then everything is fine"
> Frank Zappa.
--
crusad...@my-deja.com
Thomas Mohr <thoma...@magnet.at> wrote:
> First, faggotry, murder, pedophilia, etc *are* against nature,
>therefore
> the percentage of people (or animals) doing this in a population is
> rather low and never exceed a certain percentage. Race-mixing is *not*
> against nature
Yes it *is* against nature. It's natural to have a genuine love and
preference for your own kind. It is *unnatural* to prefer a foreign
race.
>since in *every single known case* race mixing occures totally and 100%
>when two races occupy the same area.
LOL! If that were true than every White in America would be with a
non-white. I've never screwed or dated a non-white--and neither have
*most* other Whites. That *negates* your asinine "100%" theory, Mohr-on.
Thomas Mohr
> Yes it *is* against nature. It's natural to have a genuine love and
> preference for your own kind. It is *unnatural* to prefer a foreign
> race.
Crusader, my by your definition non-white cousin is more of my kind than
you can ever hope to be. She shares 25% of the genes with me,
nevertheless you tell me that I should hate her because she is not
white. Crusader, you yourself said it. An ideology demanding that is
pervert.
> >since in *every single known case* race mixing occures totally and 100%
> >when two races occupy the same area.
>
> LOL! If that were true than every White in America would be with a
> non-white. I've never screwed or dated a non-white--and neither have
> *most* other Whites. That *negates* your asinine "100%" theory, Mohr-on.
Crusader, your comment proves your non-existing IQ. Do you know the
concept of *time*. Mixing two genepools needs time, but ultimativley
they *will* mix. They have done so in *any* known case, be it India,
Latin America or the boundaries of races. Why do you think there are so
many forms between the single races ? Because races mixed.
ipm
Forget it, Jason, I'm not going to fight with you.
Kevin Alfred Strom
[...]
> >
> > Good point, Devil boy. The term "God" is only used by monotheists (i.e.
> > Judaism, Christianity, and Islam).
I've heard the word used by monotheists, polytheists, and atheists.
Anybody can use it.
Socrates certainly used it, as did other Classical philosophers who
explored the idea of an _animus mundi_ or Providence, though they
probably thought the tribal god of the Jews to be a crude
superstition. Apuleius even wrote a book called _On the God of
Socrates_.
I think it would be good if racially conscious Whites, with full
allowance for free speech, debate, and discussion, would refrain
from utterly condemning each other over differences of opinion on
ancient religious writings.
With all good wishes,
--
Kevin Alfred Strom.
News, links, and pictures: http://www.kevin-strom.com
crusad...@my-deja.com
Kevin Alfred Strom <kevin...@innocent.com> wrote:
> > crusad...@my-deja.com wrote:
> [...]
> > >
> > > Good point, Devil boy. The term "God" is only used by monotheists
(i.e.
> > > Judaism, Christianity, and Islam).
>
> I've heard the word used by monotheists, polytheists, and atheists.
> Anybody can use it.
>
> Socrates certainly used it, as did other Classical philosophers who
> explored the idea of an _animus mundi_ or Providence, though they
> probably thought the tribal god of the Jews to be a crude
> superstition.
The tribal god of the Jews is, and always has been money. There is
nothing superstitious about that. The Jews do not now, nor have they
ever cared about the afterlife. Their "religion" is 100% worldly.
The One True God who first revealed Himself to Abraham *is* God. God the
Son, one of the three persons of the Holy Trinity who became man *is*
God. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit--the three
persons of the Holy Trinity--the One True God. This God is the creator
of all that is seen and unseen. He is not a "tribal god."
That word "superstition" is often used in NA propaganda and by NA
members in it's attacks against Christianity. That's strange considering
that the Roman Catholic Church has always condemned superstition, and
even used to turn superstitious people over to the secular authorities
to be burned at the stake. I'm refering to superstitions such as
consulting with the dead, and perhaps even Satan himself, via Ouija
boards and other mediums, divination via Rune Stones, healing spells,
worshiping false gods, witchcraft, divination via bird shit, and the
other ridiculous, moronic, and evil pagan practices that date back to
pre-Christian times. The Roman Catholic Church has always forbidden
superstition, as does the Holy Scriptures.
Acknowledging that Jesus, who is God, can walk on water, be born of a
Virgin, and heal and raise the dead is *not* superstition--despite what
the NA handbook may say.
Moreover, there is nothing original in Mein Kampf or in Alliance
ideology regarding the Jews. Their is nothing Adolph Hitler, or Dr.
William Pierce has ever said regarding the exposure of Jewry that wasn't
addressed by the Roman Catholic Church first. Their is nothing in
ancient pagan literature that condemns the Jews as formally as the Roman
Catholic Church has in the past. I can post Medieval Papal Bulls against
the Jews that match Alliance policy against the Jews almost to the
letter. I challenge you to post ancient pagan literature that does the
same. The Alliance ideology regarding Jews is based on Medieval
Catholicism, even if you don't realize it.
>Apuleius even wrote a book called _On the God of
> Socrates_.
Socrates was a monotheist, although not a follower of the One True God.
I also understand that Socrates wasn't too popular among the polytheists
that you give such high praise to.
>
> I think it would be good if racially conscious Whites, with full
> allowance for free speech, debate, and discussion, would refrain
> from utterly condemning each other over differences of opinion on
> ancient religious writings.
I wonder how long a militant Catholic such as myself would have free
speech if the National Alliance was in power. We see how well the
original Nazis stuck to the Concordat. Not very well. Hell, back then
the Church was sympathetic to the Nazis. And how did the Nazis show
their gratitude? By having Crucifixes removed from German schools,
suppressing Catholic organizations, advocating a return to Norse
paganism etc., ad nauseam.
That's the amoral mentality of all pagans.
But many Roman Catholic priests, being of much higher moral virtue,
helped these Nazi ingrates escape the Jews after the war.
>
> With all good wishes,
I'm sure.
>
> --
>
> Kevin Alfred Strom.
>
> News, links, and pictures: http://www.kevin-strom.com
>
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