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Tracey12

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Dec 16, 2009, 4:15:34 PM12/16/09
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Nancy The Ugly just announced that there will be no Obama Socialist
Care this year!

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!


WE ARE WINNING!!!

KEEP THE OPPOSITION GOING!

1-20-2013

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Dec 16, 2009, 4:26:17 PM12/16/09
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Awesome!!!

Chalk this up as another broken campaign promise by the Messiah!!! Even
with the majority in the house and the senate - Wimpy in the White House
can't manage to get anything done.

This is why he's a 1-term, lame duck "president".

Gotta LUVIT!!!!

pyjamarama

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Dec 16, 2009, 4:29:59 PM12/16/09
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Obama Care dead; Copen Trade a fraudulent laughingstock; the Stumbulus
Package a obscene, ineffective waste of taxpayer money; the Foreign
Apology Tour a historical and national disgrace; the Dollar now has a
value similar to Charmin (single-ply); double-digit unemployment; self-
admitted mass-murdering foreign terrorists granted legal protections
not afforded to our brave Service men and women; an administration top
heavy with self-proclaimed Marxists, admirers of Mao, brazen tax
cheats and hardcore "fisting" pedophiles...

(And that's just a partial list!)

It's official -- Obama's presidency is a complete and utter failure.

November 2010 can't get here fast enough.

Bugs

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Dec 16, 2009, 5:05:00 PM12/16/09
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pyjamarama wrote:

>
>
> It's official -- Obama's presidency is a complete and utter failure.
>
> November 2010 can't get here fast enough.

Ever wonder why the business world / investors are overwhelmingly upbeat
about Obama? Have you noticed the stock market is up a good 30% (S&P)
since he took office? Under GW, it sank nearly 40% as investors &
business ran to the side lines, waiting for change.

Only segment I see hoping for a change now are the rednecks.

Mike Smith

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Dec 16, 2009, 6:26:40 PM12/16/09
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:05:00 -0500, Bugs <Bu...@bunny.com> wrote:

>pyjamarama wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> It's official -- Obama's presidency is a complete and utter failure.
>>
>> November 2010 can't get here fast enough.

He is heading for an <EPIC FAIL>.

Fortunately, that will probably convince a bunch of Texans to re-form
the Republic of Texas.

>
>
>
>Ever wonder why the business world / investors are overwhelmingly upbeat
>about Obama? Have you noticed the stock market is up a good 30% (S&P)
>since he took office? Under GW, it sank nearly 40% as investors &
>business ran to the side lines, waiting for change.
>
>Only segment I see hoping for a change now are the rednecks.

You poor clueless kook....

The stock market was over 14,4000 prior to the socialists taking over
our US Congress in January 2007. With our idiots spending money like
drunken sailors, the stock market will increase, but it will have a
nose-dive when the bill comes due or China calls our bonds in.

Mike Smith

Buerste

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Dec 16, 2009, 6:42:18 PM12/16/09
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"Mike Smith" <m...@wt.net> wrote in message
news:buqii5tb3atfj1j9b...@4ax.com...

Don't be so hard on him, his world is crumbling and tears flood his keyboard
as he types his defiant lies.

Freestyle

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Dec 16, 2009, 6:48:19 PM12/16/09
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What are you winning asshole?

You are a witless pawns of big Pharma and corporate Healthcare slime
who are robbing Americans blind and literally killing them.
Now you will have sanctioned corporate facism controlling 1/6th of
GDP.

You will be mandated to buy their product weather you want it or not
with no cost control of a private option.
Everything you railed against will come to pass all because of blind
obstruction.

Your afraid of Government controlled healthcare?
Just wait till you or someone you care about gets sick or dies by of
the tender mercies of Corporate LIEbercare.

Stupid fucking wingnuts continue to support policies against their own
interests out of blind hate and ignorance.
You won nothing. All your obstruction has done is hurt America and
Americans.

Tens of thousands will continue to die every year with no healthcare.

Victory? Much more like treasonous, moronic sadists who hate America.

Now tell me about how you support big corporate energy and Arab oil
cartels who give our money to terrorists by denying Global Warming you
fucking morons.

fost...@gmail.com

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Dec 16, 2009, 6:56:50 PM12/16/09
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On Dec 16, 6:48 pm, Freestyle <brist...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Victory? Much more like treasonous, moronic sadists who hate America.
>


Sounds like the whiny Liberal bitch has sand in his vagina.

Tracey12

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Dec 17, 2009, 1:27:15 AM12/17/09
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duke

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Dec 17, 2009, 7:21:48 AM12/17/09
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:48:19 -0800 (PST), Freestyle <bris...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Dec 16, 4:15�pm, Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Nancy The Ugly just announced that there will be no Obama Socialist
>> Care this year!
>>
>> YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
>>
>> WE ARE WINNING!!!
>>
>> KEEP THE OPPOSITION GOING!

>What are you winning asshole?
>You are a witless pawns of big Pharma and corporate Healthcare slime
>who are robbing Americans blind and literally killing them.

The Republicans offered some great alternatives like tort control. And
competition across state lines. But noooooooo, that would work and put the
'rat-friendly lawyers out of business.

And so the story goes.

>Now you will have sanctioned corporate facism controlling 1/6th of
>GDP.
>
>You will be mandated to buy their product weather you want it or not
>with no cost control of a private option.
>Everything you railed against will come to pass all because of blind
>obstruction.
>
>Your afraid of Government controlled healthcare?
>Just wait till you or someone you care about gets sick or dies by of
>the tender mercies of Corporate LIEbercare.
>
>Stupid fucking wingnuts continue to support policies against their own
>interests out of blind hate and ignorance.
>You won nothing. All your obstruction has done is hurt America and
>Americans.
>
>Tens of thousands will continue to die every year with no healthcare.
>
>Victory? Much more like treasonous, moronic sadists who hate America.
>
>Now tell me about how you support big corporate energy and Arab oil
>cartels who give our money to terrorists by denying Global Warming you
>fucking morons.

The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

George Kerby

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Dec 17, 2009, 10:01:29 AM12/17/09
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On 12/16/09 5:26 PM, in article buqii5tb3atfj1j9b...@4ax.com,
"Mike Smith" <m...@wt.net> wrote:

Whatta expect from a wild hare, intelligence?!?

Tracey12

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Dec 17, 2009, 4:02:19 PM12/17/09
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On Dec 17, 6:21 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:

Its all about control, not health care. Dems want to control us.

Freestyle

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Dec 17, 2009, 8:00:38 PM12/17/09
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On Dec 17, 4:02 pm, Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Its all about control, not health care.  Dems want to control us.
>

So incredibly naive.
You are, have been and will continue to be under the control of mega
corporations, foreign energy suppliers and their Republicon lapdogs.

You are now at the mercy of Corporatecare.
Enjoy the mandated fascism that you helped to bring about.

You fear what you do not understand. They use this and you unwittingly
give them the power to control your lives.
The very thing you are afraid of is what you have because of your
willful ignorance and blind hate.

Seon Ferguson

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Dec 17, 2009, 9:09:04 PM12/17/09
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"Tracey12" <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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That's good to hear. Keep fighting the New World Order over there!

Snowman

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Dec 18, 2009, 3:15:19 AM12/18/09
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On Dec 17, 7:21 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
The Republicans offered some great alternatives like tort control.
 And
competition across state lines.  But noooooooo, that would work and
put the
'rat-friendly lawyers out of business.  
---
Maybe Nancy,Harry and Co. can use their "public option" to get some
Aricept.
They NEED it.

edi...@netpath.net

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Dec 18, 2009, 5:31:56 AM12/18/09
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On Dec 18, 3:15 am, Snowman <jkel...@zoomnet.net> wrote:
> On Dec 17, 7:21 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> The Republicans offered some great alternatives like tort control.
>  And
> competition across state lines.  But noooooooo, that would work and
> put the
> 'rat-friendly lawyers out of business.  

See that John Edwards' (ex?)-mistress now is suing him for $17,000
MONTHLY child support?

http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!

bvallely

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Dec 18, 2009, 5:49:44 AM12/18/09
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On Dec 16, 2:05 pm, Bugs <B...@bunny.com> wrote:
> pyjamarama wrote:
>
> > It's official -- Obama's presidency is a complete and utter failure.
>
> > November 2010 can't get here fast enough.
>
> Ever wonder why the business world / investors are overwhelmingly upbeat
> about Obama?   Have you noticed the stock market is up a good 30% (S&P)
> since he took office?  Under GW, it sank  nearly 40% as investors &
> business ran to the side lines, waiting for change.
.
Yeah, because he's pumped a trillion borrowed dollars into the market
for short there growth. They may be investing, but they're keeping a
VERY sharp lookout of the second crash that's sure to come.

Mike Smith

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Dec 18, 2009, 7:41:40 AM12/18/09
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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:00:38 -0800 (PST), Freestyle
<bris...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Dec 17, 4:02�pm, Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Its all about control, not health care. �Dems want to control us.
>>
>
>So incredibly naive.
>You are, have been and will continue to be under the control of mega
>corporations, foreign energy suppliers and their Republicon lapdogs.
>
>You are now at the mercy of Corporatecare.
>Enjoy the mandated fascism that you helped to bring about.
>

You poor clueless blithering idiot...

I feel sorry for you.

You want big government to tell you what you can and cannot have,
regarding your medical treatments, for the rest of your hopeless
life...

Mike Smith

duke

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Dec 18, 2009, 7:59:11 AM12/18/09
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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:02:19 -0800 (PST), Tracey12 <tracey...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Yep, they're halfway commie as it is.

Freestyle

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Dec 18, 2009, 11:19:06 AM12/18/09
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On Dec 18, 7:41 am, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
>
> >You are now at the mercy of Corporatecare.
> >Enjoy the mandated fascism that you helped to bring about.
>
> You poor clueless blithering idiot...
>
> I feel sorry for you.
>
> You want big government to tell you what you can and cannot have,
> regarding your medical treatments, for the rest of your hopeless
> life...
>
> Mike Smith

So your saying you prefer being told what you can and cannot have
medically by for profit corporations who's business model is to find
any way they can to fuck you out of your benefits when you get sick to
increase the bottom line.

Check.

Kenny McCormack

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Dec 18, 2009, 11:49:59 AM12/18/09
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In article <63a8ebae-2080-44f5...@s20g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
Freestyle <bris...@gmail.com> wrote:
...
>So your [sic] saying you prefer being told what you can and cannot have

>medically by for profit corporations who's business model is to find
>any way they can to fuck you out of your benefits when you get sick to
>increase the bottom line.
>
>Check.

Exactly. That's what "Mike Smith" is all about.
Well put, sir.

Mike Smith

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Dec 18, 2009, 5:18:06 PM12/18/09
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Once again, you post mindless nonsense.

Do you have the first clue about what is or is not allowed by medical
insurance?

Do you have the first clue that there is something called
"competition" between insurance companies?

Thanks for posting more proof that you are a clueless blithering
idiot.

Mike Smith

Freestyle

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Dec 18, 2009, 6:16:41 PM12/18/09
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Ok, genius, then explain the 400 plus "mergers" of private insurers
who now dominate most markets. They use their concentrated power to
control premium levels, benefit packages, and provider payments in the
markets they control.

According to the American Medical Association, 94 percent of insurance
markets in the United States are now highly concentrated, and insurers
are thriving in the anti-competitive marketplace, raking in enormous
profits and paying out huge CEO salaries.

You know nothing "Mike Smith"

Mike Smith

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Dec 18, 2009, 8:35:05 PM12/18/09
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Oh really????

>
>According to the American Medical Association, 94 percent of insurance
>markets in the United States are now highly concentrated, and insurers
>are thriving in the anti-competitive marketplace, raking in enormous
>profits and paying out huge CEO salaries.

Envious? Of course you are.

You, being the world class fool that you are, mindlessly "think" a
government plan would be much better, despite the fact that our
government has absolutely no history that suggests they could run any
bureaucracy worth a shit.

>
>You know nothing "Mike Smith"

What ever feeds your fantasies, dude...

Mike Smith

Kenny McCormack

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Dec 18, 2009, 9:38:21 PM12/18/09
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In article <de8db334-d50e-4830...@e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
Freestyle <bris...@gmail.com> wrote:
...

>You know nothing "Mike Smith"

And water is wet. The Pope is Catholic, and ...

Kevin Cunningham

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Dec 19, 2009, 4:32:44 PM12/19/09
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On Dec 18, 8:35 pm, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:16:41 -0800 (PST), Freestyle
>
>
>
>
>

Notice that Mikey didn't say a factual thing, just lots of yelling a
screaming. The facts are that insurance companies are regulated by
states and the feds. Most large markets have no semblance of
competition. And the insurance companies love that.

Mikey won't address the fact that insurance companies start out by
denying the claim. What you need if you go into the hospital is a
good, well trained negotiator, then a competent doctor.

Mike Smith

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Dec 19, 2009, 9:40:49 PM12/19/09
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Prove it.

>The facts are that insurance companies are regulated by
>states and the feds. Most large markets have no semblance of
>competition. And the insurance companies love that.

You do not know anything about insurance companies, do you...

>
>Mikey won't address the fact that insurance companies start out by
>denying the claim.

Do you enjoy lying about this stuff? Wait, you're a clueless
blithering idiot... No wonder you "think" insurance starts out denying
claims.

> What you need if you go into the hospital is a
>good, well trained negotiator, then a competent doctor.

Whatever feeds your fantasies, dude...

Mike Smith

Kevin Cunningham

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Dec 20, 2009, 10:31:05 AM12/20/09
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Notice that Mikey didn't include a refutation of any thing I said, he
just bloviated like mad. He figures that facts just don't work all
that well for a conservative.

And he didn't do a thing about facts like the number of news stories
about people getting their health insurance claims initially rejected
by their insurer. But that's typical for the repugs, no facts, lots
of yelling.

Mike Smith

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Dec 20, 2009, 11:45:20 AM12/20/09
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On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:31:05 -0800 (PST), Kevin Cunningham
<sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:

Have you ever had a medical insurance policy?

Based on your posts, you have not.

Besides, posting facts, cites, and proof would only confuse you. Those
points are completely lost on the typical libtard, and you are a
typical libtard.

Mike Smith

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Balthazar The Cajun

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Dec 20, 2009, 3:29:18 PM12/20/09
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On Dec 16, 4:15 pm, Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nancy The Ugly just announced that there will be no Obama Socialist
> Care this year!
>
> YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
>
> WE ARE WINNING!!!
>
> KEEP THE OPPOSITION GOING!

Ooooops!!! Guess you missed that one.

Senate will pass their bill Sunday night/Monday morning; bills will go
to conference, out by Christmas. If not out by Christmas, will work
over the Christmas break and pass a unified bill before the end of the
session.

Right-wing and Republican heads exploding.

Kevin Cunningham

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Dec 20, 2009, 4:27:44 PM12/20/09
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Once again Mikey can't post any facts. Come on, Mikey, why no facts?
If you think I'm ignorant of insurance law post the facts you think
I'm ignorant of.

John Q Public

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Dec 20, 2009, 4:45:54 PM12/20/09
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On 2009-12-20 15:29:18 -0500, Balthazar The Cajun
<balthaza...@hotmail.com> said:

Sorry fool, she was referring to House not the Senate, recociliation process
between the 2 houses cannot even start to be discussed until Jan 19th
when they return!
So no bill into law this year is correct
So you are a jackass is correct
BTW The House and Senate versions are miles not inches apart so chance
of a bill
containing anything you fools want is slim

Mike Smith

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Dec 20, 2009, 5:02:04 PM12/20/09
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On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:57:35 -0500, Gogarty <Gog...@Clongowes.edu.ie>
wrote:

>In article
><e9cb681f-df04-4ca3...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>sms...@mindspring.com says...


>
>>Mikey won't address the fact that insurance companies start out by
>>denying the claim. What you need if you go into the hospital is a
>>good, well trained negotiator, then a competent doctor.
>

>Thirty percenty of all claims are rejected on first presentation.


30%??? That cannot be true... The Kevin buffoon insists it is 100%.
And I quote:


> >> >Mikey won't address the fact that insurance companies start out by
> >> >denying the claim.

How can that be???

/s

When the Kevin buffoon starts off with that ridiculous statement,
there is nowhere to go with any rebuttal.

Mike Smith

Dave Heil

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Dec 20, 2009, 10:57:01 PM12/20/09
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Kevin Cunningham wrote:
> On Dec 20, 11:45 am, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:31:05 -0800 (PST), Kevin Cunningham

>> Besides, posting facts, cites, and proof would only confuse you. Those


>> points are completely lost on the typical libtard, and you are a
>> typical libtard.
>>
>> Mike Smith
>
> Once again Mikey can't post any facts. Come on, Mikey, why no facts?
> If you think I'm ignorant of insurance law post the facts you think
> I'm ignorant of.

Kevin, instead of asking so damned many questions, how about your
answering some. Let's finish that bit about your military service. Did
you serve?

Tracey12

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Dec 21, 2009, 3:56:48 AM12/21/09
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On Dec 16, 3:15 pm, Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nancy The Ugly just announced that there will be no Obama Socialist
> Care this year!
>
> YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
>
> WE ARE WINNING!!!
>
> KEEP THE OPPOSITION GOING!

Obama Care is dead. Don't believe what you read. Abortion killed
it. How ironic. How funny.

Kevin Cunningham

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Dec 21, 2009, 8:32:20 AM12/21/09
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And when you shamble up to get your Obamacare or what ever call it
what are you going to say? When you get your bail out for your house
you will be grateful, right?

See, bunkie, you want government aid for your house, that's quite a
different thing from paying into an insurance plan, you just want free
government money.

If you had any ethics at all you wouldn't accept aid for your house,
you wouldn't accept aid under Medicare but I bet you do.

Kevin Cunningham

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Dec 21, 2009, 8:34:53 AM12/21/09
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On Dec 20, 5:02 pm, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:57:35 -0500, Gogarty <Goga...@Clongowes.edu.ie>
> wrote:
>
> >In article
> ><e9cb681f-df04-4ca3-b041-90387317e...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,

> >sms...@mindspring.com says...
>
> >>Mikey won't address the fact that insurance companies start out by
> >>denying the claim.  What you need if you go into the hospital is a
> >>good, well trained negotiator, then a competent doctor.
>
> >Thirty percenty of all claims are rejected on first presentation.
>
> 30%??? That cannot be true... The Kevin buffoon insists it is 100%.
> And I quote:
>
> > >> >Mikey won't address the fact that insurance companies start out by
> > >> >denying the claim.
>
> How can that be???
>
> /s
>
> When the Kevin buffoon starts off with that ridiculous statement,
> there is nowhere to go with any rebuttal.
>
> Mike Smith

Mikey, still can't come up with any facts on your own. What's wrong?
Oh, my bad, you don't have any.

Do you really think that a 30% rejection rate is a good thing? Do you
really think that deciding that using a prior condition to throw
people out of an insurance plan is a good, moral idea?

John Q Public

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Dec 21, 2009, 8:41:21 AM12/21/09
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KC, assuming everyone else is as entitled and useless as you again. Project
your fantasies elsewhere because we have been against all bailouts from
the beginning

ArmyOfDorkness

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Dec 21, 2009, 8:48:55 AM12/21/09
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"Tracey12" <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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POLITICO Breaking News:
-----------------------------------------------------

The Democratic Party's decades-long push to remake the U.S. health care
system cleared a major hurdle early Monday morning, with the Senate voting
60-40 on party lines to advance a $871 billion bill to extend coverage to
nearly all Americans.

For more information...http://www.politico.com

Mike Smith

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Dec 21, 2009, 5:47:28 PM12/21/09
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 05:34:53 -0800 (PST), Kevin Cunningham
<sms...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>On Dec 20, 5:02�pm, Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:57:35 -0500, Gogarty <Goga...@Clongowes.edu.ie>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article
>> ><e9cb681f-df04-4ca3-b041-90387317e...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>> >sms...@mindspring.com says...
>>
>> >>Mikey won't address the fact that insurance companies start out by
>> >>denying the claim. �What you need if you go into the hospital is a
>> >>good, well trained negotiator, then a competent doctor.
>>
>> >Thirty percenty of all claims are rejected on first presentation.
>>
>> 30%??? That cannot be true... The Kevin buffoon insists it is 100%.
>> And I quote:
>>
>> > >> >Mikey won't address the fact that insurance companies start out by
>> > >> >denying the claim.
>>
>> How can that be???
>>
>> /s
>>
>> When the Kevin buffoon starts off with that ridiculous statement,
>> there is nowhere to go with any rebuttal.
>>
>> Mike Smith
>
>Mikey, still can't come up with any facts on your own. What's wrong?
>Oh, my bad, you don't have any.

They are easily googled. How about giving me a list of sites you would
accept as legitimate sources, and I'll post some links for you.

>
>Do you really think that a 30% rejection rate is a good thing?

You stated they all start out rejecting each claim. Why did you lie?
(I'm wondering if Kevin is smart enough to know he lied?)

>Do you
>really think that deciding that using a prior condition to throw
>people out of an insurance plan is a good, moral idea?

I never stated that was an accurate number.

Based on my personal experiences over the last 10 years, the insurance
company's rate of rejection on the first presentation is 0%. It never
happened. Each and every one of my claims have been approved, first
time, every time.

Mike Smith

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