Bush Abortion Allegation: A History
Arthur T. Raymond
On July 8, 2004, Salon's David Bowman had an interview with Larry Flynt
about his new book, a memoir titled "Sex, Lies, And Politics: The Naked
Truth." The following is an excerpt from that interview. -- Jerry Politex
David Bowman: The first thing in your book that everyone is going to jump
on is your claim that young George W. Bush paid for his girlfriend's
illegal abortion.
Larry Flynt: You can't stay with a story this long and not believe in it.
In 2000, I got a call from a lawyer in Houston. He told me that his
client, "Susan," could prove that George W. Bush arranged for his
girlfriend to have an abortion back in the early 1970s. Her boyfriend at
the time, "Clyde," was pals with Bush and set up the procedure. We checked
up and found that indeed "Clyde" was responsible for keeping Bush out of
trouble. Bush had knocked up a girl named "Rayette." We talked to the
doctor that performed the abortion. We felt we really had a blockbuster
story, but about two months before we were going to break the story,
"Susan" disappeared. We finally found her. She was living in a
half-million-dollar home in Corpus Christi, Texas. Before that she was
living in a small apartment working for $13,000 a year as a cocktail
waitress. I'm not saying Bush bought her off, but I'm confident that one
or more of his cronies did. The only thing that interested me in this
story is -- I'm pro-choice, but to have a guy who is running on a pro-life
platform ... and this procedure was committed in 1971, two years before
Roe vs. Wade, which would have made it a crime.
I went to two members of the national press (during the 2000 presidential
campaign) and said, "Look. I don't have anyone out on the stump. You guys
do. At least ask Bush the question." You know what? They refused to. One
of them had the nerve to tell me that the election was too close. "We
don't want to be the ones to tip it in any direction." I thought, that
gives you a really great feeling about the press.
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Flynt Charges Bush "Involved In" 1970's Abortion
In a half-hour show on CNN's Crossfire this evening, moderator Robert
Novak waited until the very end of the show, which was devoted to
filtering software on the internet, to say to magazine publisher Larry
Flynt, "You said you wanted to talk about the election. Tell me what you
wanted to say." Flynt answered, "For eight months we've been looking into
George W. Bush's background. And we've found out in the early 1970s he was
involved in an abortion in Texas, and I just think that it's sad that the
mainstream media, who's aware of this story, won't ask him that question
when they were able to ask him the drug question without any proof at all,
and we've got all kinds of proof on this issue....You know, the guy
admitted he was a drunk for 20 years, and if the abortion issue is true
then that puts him lower on the morality scale than Bill Clinton." Novak
replied at that point, "Mr. Flynt, you said if it's true and you have no
proof of that. I gather you are a very strong..." Flynt, whose previous
investigation of national-level politicians led to at least one
resignation from Congress, loudly interrupted, "The hell we don't have
proof!" The camera cut from Flynt in L.A. back to Bill Press and Robert
Novak, sheepishly grinning in the studio. Novak said, "Larry Flynt, thank
you very,very much for joining us." Press added, "You never know. Live
television." Yes, you never know. --Politex, Friday Evening, 10/20/00
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Transcribed in the CNN Chat room AFTER Flynt's appearance on the program---
CNN - Mr. Flynt, I would like to know how you plan to protect yourself
from a law suit by claiming to have the goods on GWBush.
Flynt: Because we have them and the truth is an absolute defense.
CNN; When and where are you going to publish information about George W. Bush?
Flynt: When I said that we had the proof, I am referring to knowing who
the girl was, knowing who the doctor was that performed the abortion,
evidence from girlfriends of hers at the time, who knew about the romance
and the subsequent abortion. The young lady does not want to go public,
and without her willingness, we don't feel that we're on solid enough
legal ground to go with the story, because should she say it never
happened, then we've got a potential libel suit. But we know we have
enough evidence that we believe completely. One of the things that
interested us was that this abortion took place before Roe Vs. Wade in
1970 [sic. 1973], which made it a crime at the time. I'd just like the
national media to ask him if abortion is okay for him and his family, but
not for the rest of America. We're not looking at it as a big issue, we're
looking at it as a situation of people not being told the truth. I think
the American people have a right to know everything there is to know about
someone running for President.
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AFTERNATH:CNN's Crossfire transcript of Friday 20, 2000 included Larry
Flynt's comments on internet pornography but not his Bush abortion
charges, which have been removed from the CNN site. Meanwhile, a Bush
watcher has reported that the video of the program included Flynt's
charges about a Bush abortion were available on Saturday, but were later
edited out. The entire video has since been removed from the site. There
is still reference to the program on this page, and you can e-mail your
Crossfire questions from this page. American Politics Journal reports that
it has a copy of the original Crossfire video with Larry Flynt's charges
that George W. Bush "was involved" in an early 70's abortion. --Politex,
10/23/00
CNN DELETES FLYNT ATTACK ON BUSH FROM CROSSFIRE TRANSCRIPT
Sunday evening a surprised Bush watcher reported that Larry Flynt's Friday
evening Crossfire allegation that George W. Bush was "involved in" an
early 1970's abortion and that he had proof of it was removed from the
transcript posted on the CNN web site at
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0010/20/cf.00.html. Here's how the relevant
portion of the transcript now reads:
HUGHES: It is effective, but I -- it needs to be coupled with technology
tools. And let me just say that the points that I'm making, I'm speaking
as an individual commissioner. All right, so I just want to make that
clear. But the commission did hear testimony from schools and libraries
who had effectively used technologies with their acceptable use policies
and that it did work well, Bill, so you'll have different viewpoints on
that.
------------[THE DELETION OCCURS HERE]-----------
NOVAK: Sir, I gather you're a very strong Gore supporter. Is that correct?
FLYNT: I'll vote for the lesser of the two evils. I don't like either one
of them.
PRESS: All Right, Larry Flynt, a man who speaks his word, but we remind
you they are Larry Flynt's words and not ours. Larry Flynt, thank you
very, very much for joining us. Donna Rice Hughes, good to have you here.
HUGHES: Thank you.
PRESS: You never know. Live television. Bob Novak and I will be back with
our non-pornographic closing comments. Too bad. Coming up....
***
HERE'S THE DELETED EXCERPT, COPIED FROM THE CNN TRANSCRIPT FRIDAY EVENING.
(This, of course, would be on the CNN video tape of the program, unless
it's been deleted from there as well.):
HUGHES: It is effective, but I -- it needs to be coupled with technology
tools. And let me just say that the points that I'm making, I'm speaking
as an individual commissioner. All right, so I just want to make that
clear. But the commission did hear testimony from schools and libraries
who had effectively used technologies with their acceptable use policies
and that it did work well, Bill, so you'll have different viewpoints on
that.
------------[THE DELETION BEGINS HERE]-----------
NOVAK: Mr. Flynt, never let it be said that we censor any of our guests
here on CROSSFIRE, and you said you wanted to talk about the election.
Tell me what you wanted to say.
FLYNT: Well, during the impeachment debacle, we did an investigation which
resulted in the resignation of Bob Livingston and others and we have
continued this investigation and for eight months we've been looking into
George W. Bush's background. And we've found out in the early 1970s he was
involved in an abortion in Texas, and I just think that it's sad that the
mainstream media, who's aware of this story, won't ask him that question
when they were able to ask him the drug question without any proof at all,
and we've got all kinds of proof on this issue.
NOVAK: Well, you're...
FLYNT: You know, the guy admitted he was a drunk for 20 years, and if the
abortion issue is true then that puts him lower on the morality scale than
Bill Clinton.
NOVAK: Mr. Flynt, you said if it's true and you have no proof of that. I
gather you are a very strong...
FLYNT: The hell we don't have proof.
------------[THE DELETION ENDS HERE]-----------
NOVAK: Sir, I gather you're a very strong Gore supporter. Is that correct?
FLYNT: I'll vote for the lesser of the two evils. I don't like either one
of them.
PRESS: All Right, Larry Flynt, a man who speaks his word, but we remind
you they are Larry Flynt's words and not ours. Larry Flynt, thank you
very, very much for joining us. Donna Rice Hughes, good to have you here.
HUGHES: Thank you.
PRESS: You never know. Live television. Bob Novak and I will be back with
our non-pornographic closing comments. Too bad. Coming up....
See also..."Larry Flynt Drops Bombshell On Dubya". Transcript and
commentary IN AMERICAN POLITICS JOURNAL.
If you'd like to ask CNN for an explanation, its feedback page is
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/
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excerpt from TV reporter Del Walters' L.A. interview with Larry Flynt for
ABC Ch.7 in Washington, D.C which aired on Thursday, 10/19/00, one day
previous to the Crossfire interview (see above).
Walters: "Are you currently seeking information or do you have information
on him (G.W. Bush)?"
Flynt: "Yes we do. Š It depresses me to see this nation get so excited
about somebody like him. We know a lot about Bush, some may be coming out
before the election, but I don't know."
Walters: "But people are gong to say, 'How do we really know you have the
goods on George W. Bush and how do we know you're not just posturing for
publicity."
Flynt: "Okay, first of all, when we nailed (Congressman) Livingston, he
did an interview in the New York Times the next day and referred to me as
a bottom feeder and they called me for a comment and I said, 'That's
right, but look what I found when I got down there."...
Walters: "A lot of people are going to ask, 'Should sex have anything to
do with the presidential election?"
Flynt: "Absolutely, because there's nothing more political than sex. Š Sex
is the most political thing in the world."...
Anchor: In response to Larry Flynt's allegations of information about
George W. Bush, the Bush campaign told the I-Team, "Mr. Flynt is not a
credible source on any issue and we'renot aware of these allegations."
Bush Attacks Messenger, Not Allegations
According to Drudge Report, Bush responded to Larry Flynt's charge that he
was "involved in" an abortion in the 1970's by having a "senior Bush
source" say, "CNN's standards have hit a new low, if that is even
possible! It appears the liberal media is becoming desperate as Election
Day nears." Neither Bush nor anyone on the campaign team, however, was
reported as addressing the specifics of the Flynt charges.
The Bush camp had 24 hours at the very least to construct an answer to
Flynt's charges of Bush sexual misbehavior, and the best they could come
up with was to attack CNN for airing them. --Politex, 10/21/00
e-mail...TO ANDREW SULLIVAN, SENIOR EDITOR, THE NEW REPUBLIC
Mr. Sullivan, your recent defense of Drudge in TNR pages is difficult to
sustain when he keeps distorting the news on a daily basis. For example,
XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX FRI OCT 20, 2000 21:42:04 ET XXXXX CNN AIRS
ALLEGATION: BUSH INVOLVED IN ABORTION
All-news channel CNN on Friday aired allegations that Republican
presidential hopeful George W. Bush was involved in an abortion in the
1970's. "We've found out in the early 1970s Bush was involved in an
abortion in Texas," HUSTLER publisher Larry Flynt reported on CNN. Flynt
did not offer specifics. CNN stunned the jounalistic community by airing
the claims without evidence. The Bush campaign immediately blasted the
network. "CNN's standards have hit a new low, if that is even possible!"
slammed one senior Bush source from Austin. "It appears the liberal media
is becoming desperate as Election Day nears."
Now you and I both know that Flynt provided specifics in the CNN Chat room
right after the show, and was perfectly willing to do so on camera. Drudge
is quite able to report Chat room talk when it benefits his premise.
Further, since Flynt has been interviewed in the media, both in D.C. and
L.A. for weeks about what was coming, how could the journalistic
"community" be "stunned"? Were you "stunned"? I sure wasn't.
We also both know that the Bush team chooses to attack the messenger
rather than the charge in all such cases, just as it did so here. I
hesitate to remind you that Gail Sheehy's profile of Bush and dyslexia was
treated in exactly the same way some weeks ago. I know I can't get much
agreement from you on that score, because in the Sheehy case your mag, not
Drudge, was the media outlet that bought into the Bush stonewall. You
remember the smear of Sheehy in your pages, don't you? You know, the story
that was supposedly an attack on the VF Bush profile, but distorted
Sheehy's material in one paragraph and spent the rest of a rather long
article attacking her on other grounds.
http://bushwatch.net/flyntabortion.htm
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TomW
source, almost (ALMOST) as good as Michael Moore, and everybody
with more than 1/2 a brain cell understands what a lying SOB
Moore is.
gr...@internet.charitydays.uk.co
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>With Kitty Kelly's book on the Bush family coming out on Monday, I
>have to say I am amused.
>
>I do wonder if she touches on one of the most explosive rumors that
>was out there during the year 2000 campaign ... that George W. Bush,
>when he was 25, paid for the abortion of his underaged 17 year old
>girlfriend. The woman apparently was out there, but did not want to
>come forward publicly because she did not want to destroy GW Bush's
>career.
>
>If this story were to pan out it would make "young and irresponsible"
>GW Bush _both_ an abortionist _and_ a child molesting statutory
>rapist.
>
>And frankly after the GOPS's "Swiftboat Veteran's for Truth" campaign
>printing the name of the woman even if she does not come forward
>herself ought to really be fair game. After all, the public, and
>_especially_ his sincere if misguided / naive Christian supporters
>ought to be told just what kind of a dirt bag, GW Bush, the now more
>or less confirmed AWOL, former cokehead really was.
>
>It _is_ a question of character.
>
>Dennis
>denni...@yahoo.com
gr...@internet.charitydays.uk.co
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Baby Bush was aborted.
During 1971, Bush got his girlfriend pregnant and arranged an illegal abortion.
This happened about two years BEFORE the Roe-v-Wade decision.
Arrangements were made for the abortion at Twelve Oaks Hospital in Houston, Texas.
This hospital was later renamed the Bayou City Medical Center.
A witness visited the girlfriend at the hospital after the abortion.
But this is not the word of just one witness.
There exists the affidavits of four witnesses.
Details of Bush's romance with his girlfriend plus the details of the subsequent abortion are on record.
The identity of the girlfriend is on record.
The identity of the doctor who performed the abortion is on record.
Bush is now President.
And he now takes a position on the abortion issue.
Bushites claim that this abortion never happened.
They say it's a liberal lie.
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Arthur T. Raymond
> More from that great American, Larry Flynt! Wonderful credible
> source, almost (ALMOST) as good as Michael Moore, and everybody
> with more than 1/2 a brain cell understands what a lying SOB
> Moore is.
As Flynt said: "I may be a bottomfeeder, but just look what I found at the
bottom."
This is the same Larry Flynt that uncloaked Gingrich, Livingston, Barr and
a host of other GOP bigshots as the lying, wife-cheating, morally-bankrupt
pack of hypocritcal jackals they really are, just like your "pro-life"
president.
Don't hate the player, Tom... hate the game.
kw
larry flynt says it is true, then how can we doubt it???
In <JusticeIsSwerved-1209041511240001@c-24-12-208-
240.client.comcast.net>, JusticeI...@yahoo.com
says...
> Larry Flynt's Bush Abortion Accusation: A History
--
Give the Terrorists what they want---Elect Kerry
soxfan
<gr...@internet.charitydays.uk.co> wrote in message
And frankly after the GOPS's "Swiftboat Veteran's for Truth" campaign
printing the name of the woman even if she does not come forward herself
ought to really be fair game.
WRONG. no one has a right to destroy this woman and her family.
SikOfLibs
facts to back it up, I continue to see the Democratic party like I see a
fish flopping around on a table begging for water like in that Tesla video.
The Democratic party has sunk to the lowest of the lows. The party of JFK
has been lost to the sad spokespeople like Michael Moore and Larry Flynt.
"Arthur T. Raymond" <JusticeI...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JusticeIsSwerved...@c-24-12-208-240.client.comcast.net...
> Flynt: "Yes we do. S It depresses me to see this nation get so excited
> about somebody like him. We know a lot about Bush, some may be coming out
> before the election, but I don't know."
>
>
> Walters: "But people are gong to say, 'How do we really know you have the
> goods on George W. Bush and how do we know you're not just posturing for
> publicity."
>
>
> Flynt: "Okay, first of all, when we nailed (Congressman) Livingston, he
> did an interview in the New York Times the next day and referred to me as
> a bottom feeder and they called me for a comment and I said, 'That's
> right, but look what I found when I got down there."...
>
> Walters: "A lot of people are going to ask, 'Should sex have anything to
> do with the presidential election?"
>
>
> Flynt: "Absolutely, because there's nothing more political than sex. S Sex
raymond o'hara
"soxfan" <sox...@SOXROCK.com> wrote in message
news:4U21d.6035$sX2.4302@trndny09...
yes they do. no one has ever said you can't be called on your prior acts
and held up to public scrutiny. if you don't want to be ripped don't do
shady things ,
if she's so embarrassed she should have used birth control{something else
repugs hate}.
Arthur T. Raymond
> If an upstanding pornographer and child molester like
> larry flynt says it is true, then how can we doubt it???
<chuckle>
As opposed to the word of a drunk-driving, coke-sniffing, draft-dodging
frat boy who lied to an entire nation and sent 1,000 of our bravest young
men and women (and counting) to die for a personal war to avenge his
father's failures and appease his oil industry pals?
A man with clear and sinister ties with the bin Laden family, Halliburton
and our "good friends" in Saudi Arabia?
A man whose own party coddled armed Saddam Hussein n the 1980s, ignored
the gassing of Iranians (Reagan) and Kurds (Bush #1) and presented Saddam
with a pair of cowboy boots and golden spurs (Rumsfeld)?
A man who has broken more promises and treaties -- both domestically and
internationally -- than any other leader in world history (Hitler
included)?
A man that has reversed virtually every environmental protection measure
initiated over the last 30 years to help line the pockets of his corporate
billionaire golf buddies?
A man who has depleted a multi-billion dollar budget surplus and created a
multi-billion dollar deficit -- all in the span of 3.5 short years?
A man who invented a spurious sound-bite program called "No Child Left
Behind, " then promptly gutted the funding for it?
A man who claimed to be a "great uniter," and hassince turned the
international community at-large against us (and our own people against
one another)?
A man who claims his "top priority" is the safety of our fighting troops,
then underfunds their equipment needs and cuts their combat pay?
A man that has surrounded himself with a jackal's den of disingenious,
self-serving footsoldiers like Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Wolfowitz and
(worst of all) Ashcroft?
A man who swore he "would not rest" until Osama bin Laden was captured or
killed, and now doesn't even mention bin Laden's name in his speeches?
A man who proudly sends soldiers to die in the desert thousands of miles
away, but who never once shown the human (much less presidential) decency
to attend even one o their funerals?
A man that even *real* conservatives see as a big-spending, big government
lair and hypocrite?
You ought to stick to purple hearts, swift boats and typewriters, sport.
It's pretty much all you've got to run on. Good thing for you that there
are plenty of voters who are too lazy and/or stupid to care about what
really matters.