Even the Republicans think Fox News Sucks
Too_Many_Tools
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Murdoch rips competitors for bias even as more Fox critics emerge on
the right
Wed Apr 7, 6:40 pm ET
In an address last night to the National Press Club, News Corp
Chairman and CEO Rupert Murdoch ripped into the New York Times as a
media outlet with "an agenda" focused on "anything Mr. Obama wants."
Murdoch, who owns Fox News and the Times' primary competitor the Wall
Street Journal, then fielded a question from the audience about Fox
News' own reputation for advancing a conservative agenda — and lately
the conservative, grass-roots Tea Party movement — in its coverage,
Murdoch waved off the allegation.
"I don't think we should be supporting the Tea Party or any other
party," he said. "We have both sides in our news shows, our politics
or whatever. We have Democrats and Republicans and whatever."
But while Fox News' head cheerleader was trumpeting his network's
objectivity and slinging scorn at liberal bias he sees in the rest of
the media, Fox News' coverage and its connection to the activist right
has been drawing flak from some prominent national conservatives.
Yesterday, Oklahoma Sen. Tom Coburn, who is strongly identified with
both the fiscal- and social-conservative wings of the GOP, wound up
cautioning some conservative constituents at a town hall gathering not
to "catch yourself being biased by Fox News that somebody is no good."
Coburn's plea for viewer skepticism came in defense of his courtly
aside about Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, whom he
characterized as "a nice person." When a wave of grumbling followed,
Coburn stood his ground, asking the crowd "how many of you all have
met her?" before proceeding to chide them for echoing the Fox-branded
view of Pelosi as a poor specimen of humanity.
The Coburn episode was especially striking, since he happens to be one
of the most stalwart conservatives in the Senate, netting a 96-point
rating on the 100-point scale furnished by the American Conservative
Union.
Other conservatives who are closer to the traditional GOP mainstream
have lately raised similar red flags about Fox's broader political
impact. David Frum, the former American Enterprise Institute fellow
who was recently let go in the wake of a widely circulated blog post
he wrote criticizing GOP legislative tactics on health care reform,
has said that "Republicans originally thought that Fox worked for us,
and now we're discovering that we're working for Fox." Frum spelled
out what he meant by that remark in a weekend appearance on CNN's
"Reliable Sources":
"What that means is that Fox, like Limbaugh, has an interest in
pushing the Republicans to the margins, making people angry," he said.
"When people are angry and alienated, they don't vote. They succumb to
feelings of helplessness."
Bruce Bartlett, a Frum sympathizer, argues that the network's
elevation as the premier source of conservative information has also
closed the right off from healthy debate. "Fox News is a Republican,
conservatively biased organization," Bartlett told Yahoo! News. "Now
conservatives don't need to get into the New York Times, or on CBS.
They've got their own news network, and all they really think is, 'How
can I get a positive mention from Beck or Limbaugh?' or 'How can I get
my boss onto Fox News?' "
Fox's Glenn Beck, indeed, spearheaded the Sept. 12 rally in
Washington, D.C., that served as the national coming out moment for
the Tea Party movement. The network was also instrumental in
publicizing the first round of Tea Party protests over the stimulus
law, which launched last April 15.
Those actions have sent the network's ratings through the roof — Beck,
for one, is now the second highest rated host on cable news, behind
only fellow conservative and Fox News host Bill O'Reilly. But the
popular anger stirred up under the network's auspices may not be an
unqualified boon to a GOP facing a tough primary season that pits many
Tea Party-style insurgents against candidates aligned with the
national party organization. Two of the most prominent such races are
the Senate contests in Florida and Arizona, where two more compromise-
minded mainstream candidates, Charlie Crist and John McCain, are
fending off challenges from candidates backed by the Tea Party — and
running strongly to the right of their usual positions as a result.
Beyond the primaries, the GOP is looking to make significant headway
against the Democratic majorities in Congress — hoping even to return
the House to Republican control. But to do that, Republicans will have
to overcome their disadvantage in voter registration in many districts
by appealing to independent voters — and those are the very sorts of
voters most likely to be repelled by an angry ideological message.
Kevin Madden, a political consultant with the Washington-based firm
Dyke Associates and former communications director for Mitt Romney's
2008 presidential bid, says that GOP leaders aren't yet voicing
"widespread" concerns about the Fox message distorting the fall
campaign. At the same time, however, Madden — a frequent commentator
on the rival cable network CNN — praised Tom Coburn's candor.
"Mr. Coburn's remarks seem to reflect an admirable and rare belief
that one can win a political debate by convincing those seated in the
jury box of public opinion that an opponent has wrong ideas, without
having to demonstrate that same opponent has corrupt intentions,"
Madden said.
— Brett Michael Dykes is a national affairs writer for Yahoo! News.
Fred B. Brown
"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Anyone who believes Faux News is an idiot!
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Anybody who beleives ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN will wind up
shoveling chicken shit on an Obama Collective Farm.
Bugs
> Anyone who believes Faux News is an idiot!
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> Laugh...laugh...laugh....
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> TMT
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> Murdoch rips competitors for bias even as more Fox critics emerge on
> the right
> Wed Apr 7, 6:40 pm ET
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One really needs to separate their daytime news from their early morning
and early evening entertainment shows.
Their three stooges in the morning are true dingbats and >6 pm, it's all
about selling books to the gullible.
In between, anchors such as Jane Skinner, Shepard Smith, Megyn Kelly &
Martha Maccallum are actually quite excellent.
Unfortunately, they also have wackos like Cavuto, Hannity, Beck, etc
that have more interest in selling books to the gullible than reporting
news.
Concerend Citizen
> Anyone who believes Faux News is an idiot!
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> Laugh...laugh...laugh....
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> TMT
The MSM has made itself irrelevent.
Gunner Asch
So how is Dann Rather doing these days? Still pushing that Accurate
Media thingy?
Hummm?
Gunner
"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.
This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost
Chief
news:uqtrr5ll4luo2rdtc...@4ax.com:
Dan Rather? Wasn't he forced off the air for doing once what every repug
talking head, politican and supporter do all the time?
Lie, miss represent and exaggerate.
Yep that's the man.
What a laugh.
Fox News - absurd Jerry Springerish dribble for the dimwits.
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"History is earmarked by the successes of liberals and the failures of
conservatives." - ETG
Too_Many_Tools
LOL...I should have mentioned that only the SMART Republicans think
Fox News SUCKS!!!!!
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Too_Many_Tools
> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
LOL...so says Fred B. Brown Conservative Chicken Shit Shoveler?
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Too_Many_Tools
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So how are your creditors doing these days? Still pushing that Gunner
you owe us lots of money thingy?
Im Right-YourNot
ha ha Ruport will repo his trailer house for not paying his cable bill
Beam Me Up Scotty
> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>> Anyone who believes Faux News is an idiot!
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>> Laugh...laugh...laugh....
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>> TMT
Which means that anyone believing MSNBC, is a coma patient?
Keeping the Quality to scale of course.
Freestyle
MSNBC spends a good deal of it's time calling out Faux News lies.
Becky and the other "entertainers" are a true plague on the country.
Too_Many_Tools
Here's a thought...maybe Faux News can get Sarah Palin to flash her
tits to get wingers to watch them.
Wingers are so hard up, they will watch anything.
Hey...how about a special from Sarah on bondage...we hear that wingers
like that kind of thing.
Goes with their family values.
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Gunner Asch
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>Dan Rather? Wasn't he forced off the air for doing once what every Leftwing
>talking head, politican and supporter do all the time?
>
>Lie, miss represent and exaggerate.
>
>Yep that's the man.
And thats the group he belongs to.
Corrected for accuracy.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
Whos cable bill? I dont have cable.
Klaus Shadenfreude
<too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in talk.politics.guns:
>Here's a thought
That'd be a first.