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Sebastian Rector

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Jul 25, 2008, 8:53:43 AM7/25/08
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How many people attended Hitler's great rallies in the late 1930?
Certainly more than 200,000.

The large turnout for Obama is explained by the fact that Germany is
very socialist country and
Obama is a socialist. Effete Europeans like him because Obama would
subjugate American independence, capitalism, individual freedom and
its role as a military superpower to internationalism, meaning the
U.N. But I don't think that would be in America's best interests. It
is clownishness for a person or nation who has power, wealth and
advantage to give it up by sharing it with foreign interests who
themselves are very selfish.

Remember how India with Gandhi was all for pacifism and socialism back
in the late forties and
fifties. Now India is a hard-nosed capitalist and militarist nation
about to become a regional superpower. Meanwhile EU has become more
socialist, pacifist and decadent. No wonder the
Germans, French, British, Italians etc. would like to see the American
colossus emasculated by
a socialist president like the slick and slippery Utopian Barack
Hussein Obama

@obama.org Obamessiah Occult Train

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Jul 25, 2008, 8:57:06 AM7/25/08
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Will Media Report Concert Before Obama's Berlin Speech?
Remember back in May when media gushed and fawned over a huge crowd in
Portland, Oregon -- supposedly gathered to hear the words of Democrat
presidential candidate Barack Obama -- but chose not to report the free
concert given before his speech?
Well, it has been learned that before the presumptive Democrat nominee spoke
to a crowd in Berlin Thursday, two popular German acts -- reggae artist
Patrice and rock band Reamonn -- entertained the gathering audience.

Will media report this tonight, or just gush and fawn over the huge crowd
again?

While you ponder, here's what was reported by Spiegel Online moments ago
(h/t Hot Air and Gateway):

++ Pop Concert for Obama Fans ++

6:33 p.m.: The tens of thousands of Obama fans are being entertained as
they await the senator. The reggae musician Patrice kicked things off,
followed by the rock band Reamonn.

I'm sure this will be part of ALL media reports concerning this
speech...not!

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/07/24/will-media-report-concert-obamas-berlin-speech

Sid9

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Jul 25, 2008, 9:02:17 AM7/25/08
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"Obamessiah Occult Train" <Cultists @Obama.org> wrote in message
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Whining, whimpering, and rationalization
by Republicans beginning to awaken to
what bush,jr has done to their party


Arnie Black

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Jul 25, 2008, 9:13:58 AM7/25/08
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Canadian Right Wing Socialist Crackpot ROSS JOHN LAMBOURN (AKA Sebastian
Rector / Proteus / Crap Detector) wrote:
> How many people attended Hitler's great rallies in the late 1930?
> Certainly more than 200,000.
>
Right wing racist Nazis like Canadian socialist Ross John Lambourn would
know. You're so fucking old that you were there and probably just as boozed
up then as you are now, this early in the morning.

Meanwhile, Old Man McSame draws 10 senile geriatrics just to see him hold the
microphone with two hands like one of the Muppets.

Say, are you still bleeding Canada's pension and health care systems dry
along with the local liquor store?

Typical bleating socialist sheep. No job, no money; so you sit around all
day trolling and spinning lies on Usenet while pretending to be some kind of
wealthy US Republican.

Ha! You're afraid to move to the USA because you know you can't cut it.

babeejm

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Jul 25, 2008, 9:16:17 AM7/25/08
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>Really who gives a darn whether it was 2,000,000 or 200..
Obama is not president..and just the fact that media is
acting like it is a done deal is a major turn-off...They need
to put this stuff in perspective..The press is turning
a lot of people off with this he's already president routine.

miles

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Jul 25, 2008, 9:21:59 AM7/25/08
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Obamessiah Occult Train wrote:
>

> Will media report this tonight, or just gush and fawn over the huge crowd
> again?

No way will they report that. They just show the 200,000 or so people
with Obama on stage as if thats why all the people were there. No way
could Obama attract more than a handful of people in another country.

miles

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Jul 25, 2008, 9:23:14 AM7/25/08
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Sebastian Rector wrote:
> The large turnout for Obama is explained by the fact that Germany is
> very socialist country and
> Obama is a socialist.

Thats the liberal media for you. They fail to explain the free concert
given to draw the crowds there. Thats why they were there, not because
of Obama.

Michael Laudahn eOpposition

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"Sebastian Rector" <cice...@rogers.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Is there are less mature people among the civilised peoples than the
germans?

What you see is basically the consequence of decades-long reeducation -
whose effects are maintained by the daily media dose - plus group idiocy.


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bo...@theclown.net

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Jul 25, 2008, 10:08:40 AM7/25/08
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I am sure it was more exciting that the opener at a McCain rally.
Probably the Accordian Polka Kings!!!

bo...@theclown.net

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HAHAHA! Your boy McCAin cannot even fill a small hall, so you gripe
about a huge crowd that goes to see someone with a personality.

Secular Human

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Jul 25, 2008, 10:18:52 AM7/25/08
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On Jul 25, 8:53 am, Sebastian Rector <cicer...@rogers.com> wrote:

Republicans are so jealous of Obama's popularity that the feel the
needs to post stupidity like this. Angela Merkle, the leader of
Germany, is a conservative. The truth is that Bush is a rogue
president who the Europeans disliked.

Anneke.A

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"Sebastian Rector" <cice...@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> How many people attended Hitler's great rallies in the late 1930?
> Certainly more than 200,000.
>
> The large turnout for Obama is explained by the fact that Germany is
> very socialist country and
> Obama is a socialist. Effete Europeans like him because Obama would
> subjugate American independence, capitalism, individual freedom and
> its role as a military superpower to internationalism, meaning the
> U.N. But I don't think that would be in America's best interests. It
> is clownishness for a person or nation who has power, wealth and
> advantage to give it up by sharing it with foreign interests who
> themselves are very selfish.

Everyone who has walls to keep up is scared. Is this the change he wanted?
An open world society ridding us from totalitairianism and democide? If so,
start getting a life everyone. Politics is not for the meek. Popper said so
since the fifties.

A


turk

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Jul 25, 2008, 11:03:10 AM7/25/08
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"miles" <no...@nopers.com> wrote in message
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If it's so easy, then why doesn't McSame get a band to perform before one of
his speeches? I hear he's been trying to round up some hot acts, but Frank
Sinatra and Billie Holiday aren't answering their phones. More bad news:
Wilford Brimley can't sing.

turk
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fantastic that you're doing that." -GW to a divorced mother of three, Omaha,
Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005


Shaun

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Have you noticed that when George Bush visits Iraq the only people who
turn up to listen to his speeches are heavily armed US troops ?

Peter Webb

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"Shaun" <shaun.jam...@ntlwolrd.com> wrote in message
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No. They don't usually all appear to be heavily armed. They generally are US
troops, but they are who he is visiting, after all.


@obama.org Obamessiah Occult Train

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"Shaun" <shaun.jam...@ntlwolrd.com> wrote in message
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Anothe r inbred liberal who thinks Germans are Iraqi's

Shaun

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Jul 25, 2008, 11:39:49 AM7/25/08
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The Germans only had to wait 45 years for the occupying power to
leave.......

Shaun

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Jul 25, 2008, 11:41:09 AM7/25/08
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He doesn't get out to meet the Iraqi people, grateful at their
liberation. How rude.

William Black

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"Sebastian Rector" <cice...@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Remember how India with Gandhi was all for pacifism and socialism back


> in the late forties and
> fifties.

1. Gandhi was dead in 1948.

2. He broke with Nehru and withdrew from active politics in 1945

> Now India is a hard-nosed capitalist and militarist nation
> about to become a regional superpower.

India's constitution says explicitly that it is a Socialist nation, and if
you'd ever spent any time there you'd know that all the major political
parties there pay lip service to this...

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.


Sal Video

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Jul 25, 2008, 11:56:46 AM7/25/08
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"turk" <none> wrote in message
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> "miles" <no...@nopers.com> wrote in message
> news:Vrkik.1540$Bt6...@newsfe04.iad...
>> Obamessiah Occult Train wrote:
>>>
>>
>>> Will media report this tonight, or just gush and fawn over the huge
>>> crowd
>>> again?
>>
>> No way will they report that. They just show the 200,000 or so people
>> with Obama on stage as if thats why all the people were there. No way
>> could Obama attract more than a handful of people in another country.
>
> If it's so easy, then why doesn't McSame get a band to perform before one
> of his speeches? I hear he's been trying to round up some hot acts, but
> Frank Sinatra and Billie Holiday aren't answering their phones. More bad
> news: Wilford Brimley can't sing.
>

LOL
>
>


Sal Video

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"Peter Webb" <webbf...@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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for a phoo op and some fake turkey

>


Sid9

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"Obamessiah Occult Train" <Cultists @Obama.org> wrote in message
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Republican bush,jr rarely appears before an unscreened audience, in fact I
can't think of one instance where he's done that


FACE

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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:57:06 -0400 in uk.politics.misc, "Obamessiah Occult
Train" <Cultists @Obama.org> in glistered weave wrote large for all to see:

I am in the US and i had not heard of this at all until earlier this
morning.

Also, this post was the first time I heard about the free concert warmup for
him in Portland Oregon.........

FACE

FACE

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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:53:43 -0700 (PDT) in uk.politics.misc, Sebastian
Rector <cice...@rogers.com> in glistered weave wrote large for all to see:

>How many people attended Hitler's great rallies in the late 1930?
>Certainly more than 200,000.

He might have had more than 200,000 if he had it at night by torchlight. ;-)

I note that no one was abler to refute a single point of your post, but
dropped into ad hominem, red herring and irrelevant insults.

That's a decent indicator that you were spot on.

FACE

Michael Laudahn eOpposition

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"Sebastian Rector" <cice...@rogers.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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A certain kind of people would like to see that. But there are also others.

Like me, who would like to see interest alliances form to jointly counter
severe threats to our common way of life - like mohammedanism - with all the
means necessary. And I mean *all*.

bo...@theclown.net

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Jul 25, 2008, 2:07:21 PM7/25/08
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Then why did they not leave?

Crap Detector

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--
The extreme left, of course, incorporated
the irrational element of Nazism. It was
the Red Brigade's Ulrike Meinhof who
said at her 1970s trial, "Auschwitz meant
that six million Jews were killed and thrownn the waste-heap of Europe for
what
they were: money Jews.--"Reflections on Ravaged Century" by Robert
Conquest.

"Obamessiah Occult Train" <Cultists @Obama.org> wrote in message
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>
> "

Hey, where was the American news media on this one. I had never heard before
you post that Obama's rallies in Portland and Berlin were preceded by free
rock concerts. Not even Fox News mentioned it.


Ken Burns

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--
"Moral nihilism is not the only central
feature of Nazism, but also
the common feature between it and
the Bush NeoCons".--scholar Hugh Seton-Watson.

---
"Bush is the greatest war president the world
will ever see. To dream of snuggling your lips
between his ass cheeks and kissing him is a
dream of Conservative divinity and a true
epiphany!".".

- renowned Conservative scholar Ross John Lambourn


Crap Detector <Ja...@planet.com> wrote:
> Hey, where was the American news media on this one. I had never heard before
> you post that Obama's rallies in Portland and Berlin were preceded by free
> rock concerts. Not even Fox News mentioned it.
>


If Fox didn't mention it, are you sure that it actually happened?

Fox has an entire school bus full of reporters following old man McSame
around as he tours cemeteries and nursing homes to get in touch with his
voter base.

Sid9

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"FACE" <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote in message
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Big deal...it takes a long time to gather up a crowd of 200,000.
They almost always entertain until the main event comes on.

They came, they waved their American flags, the cheered, they
applauded...can't ask for more


klunk

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"Sid9" <si...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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ya... american flags being waved in support with cheers and applause.... in
a foreign country... when was the last time that happened?

FACE

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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:51:23 -0400 in uk.politics.misc, "Sid9"
<si...@bellsouth.net> in glistered weave wrote large for all to see:

Did Kennedy or Reagan have a warm-up band before they spoke?

Give a cite.

FACE

Sid9

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"FACE" <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote in message

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Did Kennedy and Reagan have no music before they spoke?

Give a cite


FACE

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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:05:09 -0400 in uk.politics.misc, "Sid9"

When you are lost in place do you always answer questions with questions to
try to gain some time and cover up that you are lost?

I originally asked:

Did Kennedy or Reagan have a warm-up band before they spoke?

Give a cite from a reputable source.

FACE

Sid9

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"FACE" <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote in message

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My query is as valid as yours:

Did Kennedy and Reagan have no music before they spoke?

Give a cite.


FACE

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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:52:05 -0400 in uk.politics.misc, "Sid9"

***

I originally asked:

Did Kennedy or Reagan have a warm-up band before they spoke?

Give a cite.

****

Are you trying to put off looking like a fool? You do not answer a question
with a question, but you seem intent on doing just that. Are you obstinate
for a reason? Are you as afraid as you are acting? What is it that you are
afraid of? Make your cite from a reputable source.

FACE

Sid9

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"FACE" <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote in message

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My question is as valid as your question.

Did Kennedy and Reagan have no music before they spoke?

Give a cite.


My main reason is that this is a none issue and unworthy
of a discussion in so magnificent a forum as this.

Basically I am trying to ridicule you for raising this issue.

If 200,000 came for the music they would have left
as soon as the first word of the speech was uttered.

Instead 200,000 stayed, waved their American flags and cheered Obama.....

You are so broken up about his success that you
need to minimize its significance by the fallacious
claim that 200,000 came for the music and not the speech.


nofar...@gmail.com

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On Jul 26, 4:28 am, "Crap Detector" <Ja...@planet.com> wrote:
> --
> The extreme left, of course, incorporated
> the irrational element of Nazism. It was
> the Red Brigade's Ulrike Meinhof who
> said at her 1970s trial, "Auschwitz meant
> that six million Jews were killed and thrownn the waste-heap of Europe for
> what
> they were: money Jews.--"Reflections on Ravaged Century" by Robert
> Conquest.
>
> "Obamessiah Occult Train" <Cultists @Obama.org> wrote in messagenews:VdCdnRefXuxwUBTV...@comcast.com...

>
>
>
> > "
> > Will Media Report Concert Before Obama's Berlin Speech?
> > Remember back in May when media gushed and fawned over a huge crowd in
> > Portland, Oregon -- supposedly gathered to hear the words of Democrat
> > presidential candidate Barack Obama -- but chose not to report the free
> > concert given before his speech?
> > Well, it has been learned that before the presumptive Democrat nominee
> > spoke
> > to a crowd in Berlin Thursday, two popular German acts -- reggae artist
> > Patrice and rock band Reamonn -- entertained the gathering audience.
>
> > Will media report this tonight, or just gush and fawn over the huge crowd
> > again?
>
> > While you ponder, here's what was reported by Spiegel Online moments ago
> > (h/t Hot Air and Gateway):
>
> > ++ Pop Concert for Obama Fans ++
>
> > 6:33 p.m.: The tens of thousands of Obama fans are being entertained as
> > they await the senator. The reggae musician Patrice kicked things off,
> > followed by the rock band Reamonn.
>
> > I'm sure this will be part of ALL media reports concerning this
> > speech...not!
>
> >http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/07/24/will-media-repo...

>
> Hey, where was the American news media on this one. I had never heard before
> you post that Obama's rallies in Portland and Berlin were preceded by free
> rock concerts. Not even Fox News mentioned it.

Read this - http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,567821,00.html

Sid9

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<nofar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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They raise this as an issue because they have NOTHING.


nofar...@gmail.com

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On Jul 26, 10:02 am, "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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The issue, nigger lover, was not "raised," it was REPORTED.

Sid9

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http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,567821,00.html


You have nothing.

(same shit, new name?)


FACE

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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:35:59 -0400 in uk.politics.misc, "Sid9"

You are being obstinately stupid.

You claimed that "They almost always entertain until the main event comes
on." and I asked you if they had a warmup band for the Berlin speeches of
Kennedy and Reagan. You refused to answer but tried to counter with a
question that I should prove a negative. Very dumb on your part. In fact,
that was stupid.

Though you did not have to, you have shown that you are a fool, and are
running scared trying to bluster over your shoulder as you run........

I think that Obama is a marxist and incapable of being an effective leader
of the US. He would be the second coming of Jimmy Carter and the islamists
will walk all over him -- and the US -- just like they did the original
Carter.

Idiots like you will put him in the presidency.

Now, try again.

I originally asked:

Did Kennedy or Reagan have a warm-up band before they spoke?

Give a cite.

FACE


robw

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O.K.,it's like this.....

Sidney Mcsame is going to give a speech in Philly. Location is Lincoln
Financial Field which hold like 60k.

Sidney has Radiohead as his warm-up.
A free Radiohead show here would very likely fill the place.

But I can tell you that when Thom and the boys left the stage nearly
everyone there to see the band would leave, as well.

Why didn't that happen in Germany?


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> "

abelard

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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:32:25 -0400, "robw" <nodd...@comcast.net>
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>O.K.,it's like this.....
>
>Sidney Mcsame is going to give a speech in Philly. Location is Lincoln
>Financial Field which hold like 60k.
>
>Sidney has Radiohead as his warm-up.
>A free Radiohead show here would very likely fill the place.
>
>But I can tell you that when Thom and the boys left the stage nearly
>everyone there to see the band would leave, as well.
>
>Why didn't that happen in Germany?

i'd stay to study the idiot...
quite fascinating....

i'd even go after the noise machines to watch him dance....

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robw

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Actually, you made me think of something.

Philly (being filled with liberals) and Radiohead fans (see previous remark)
would probably stay and taught the hell out of Sidney.

"Karma Police" and Sidney.

Hope he does it.


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klunk

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<nofar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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the issue idiot, is that you're as much a pathetic piece of racist shit as
the neocons have to offer as an alternative to obama's candidacy... which is
to say, NOTHING but a monstrously decrepit and decaying turd...

nofar...@gmail.com

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> the issue...

Oh look, another nigger lover sliming its way out of the shallow end
of the gene pool.

You display typical nigger loving behaviour, to wit, you refuse to
achknowledge the full truh of the issue.

Feel free, however, to prove that the crowd listening to ooboonga's
niggerbabble just happened to spontaneously come along.

klunk

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<nofar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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oh look, the lumbering neolithic piece of racist shit seems to think himself
clever and capable of original thought... even funnier is his pathetic
attempt to deny the simple fact that he will soon be calling a black man
president.... i hope that sticks in your craw, asshole... and i hope you
find yourself behind bars one day bending over to pick up soap for one
humungous black man with aids....

Peter Webb

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> "Peter Webb" <webbf...@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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>> "Shaun" <shaun.jam...@ntlwolrd.com> wrote in message
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>>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:21:59 -0700, miles <no...@nopers.com> wrote:

>>>
>>>>Obamessiah Occult Train wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Will media report this tonight, or just gush and fawn over the huge
>>>>> crowd
>>>>> again?
>>>>
>>>>No way will they report that. They just show the 200,000 or so people
>>>>with Obama on stage as if thats why all the people were there. No way
>>>>could Obama attract more than a handful of people in another country.
>>>
>>> Have you noticed that when George Bush visits Iraq the only people who
>>> turn up to listen to his speeches are heavily armed US troops ?
>>
>>
>> No. They don't usually all appear to be heavily armed. They generally are
>> US troops, but they are who he is visiting, after all.
>>
>
> for a phoo op and some fake turkey
>

I guess if they are eating turkey they cannot be heavily armed, so you also
disagree with the previous poster?


bushlyed

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Jul 26, 2008, 4:33:28 AM7/26/08
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On Jul 25, 8:53 am, Sebastian Rector <cicer...@rogers.com> wrote:
> How many people attended Hitler's great rallies in the late 1930?
> Certainly more than 200,000.
>
> The large turnout for Obama is explained by the fact that Germany is
> very socialist country and
> Obama is a socialist. Effete Europeans like him because Obama would
> subjugate American independence, capitalism, individual freedom and
> its role as a military superpower to internationalism, meaning the
> U.N. But I don't think that would be in America's best interests. It
> is clownishness for a person or nation who has power, wealth and
> advantage to give it up by sharing it with foreign interests who
> themselves are very selfish.
>
> Remember how India with Gandhi was all for pacifism and socialism back
> in the late forties and
> fifties. Now India is a hard-nosed capitalist and militarist nation
> about to become a regional superpower. Meanwhile EU has become more
> socialist, pacifist and decadent.


And their Euro is fucking the dollar in value

Gordon Levi

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Jul 26, 2008, 4:33:05 AM7/26/08
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miles <no...@nopers.com> wrote:

>Obamessiah Occult Train wrote:
>>
>
>> Will media report this tonight, or just gush and fawn over the huge crowd
>> again?
>
>No way will they report that. They just show the 200,000 or so people
>with Obama on stage as if thats why all the people were there. No way
>could Obama attract more than a handful of people in another country.

Perhaps you are too close to see the United States from another
country's point of view.

Dick Armitage, former G.W Bush Deputy Secretary of State, said "In our
anger and fear after 9/11 we turned a very angry face to the world. We
were exporting that anger and that fear; we were snarling. Rather than
exporting what is a much more normal export from the United States,
and that’s hope, and enthusiasm and opportunity".

Obama expresses the hope and enthusiasm that people in other countries
expect from the United States but have not heard for seven years. That
is why 200,000 Europeans were eager to hear it first hand.

Al Smith

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Jul 26, 2008, 11:50:53 AM7/26/08
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The Euro is raping the dollar with a broken beer bottle.

-Al-

wby...@ireland.com

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Jul 26, 2008, 11:54:58 AM7/26/08
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:21:59 -0700, miles <no...@nopers.com> wrote:

>Obamessiah Occult Train wrote:
>>
>
>> Will media report this tonight, or just gush and fawn over the huge crowd
>> again?
>
>No way will they report that. They just show the 200,000 or so people
>with Obama on stage as if thats why all the people were there. No way
>could Obama attract more than a handful of people in another country.

The media reported both the music and the speech. The bands weren't
top notch and the people came to hear Obama. On our trip to Italy in
April, we discovered that the adults and the school kids had all heard
of Obama - and were familiar with his speeches. Few of the adults and
none of the school kids had heard of McCain. Face up to it righties,
the world detests Mr. Bush - and rightly so.

WB Yeats

wby...@ireland.com

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Jul 26, 2008, 11:59:08 AM7/26/08
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:58:03 -0400, FACE <AFaceIn...@today.net>
wrote:

They were both Presidents when they spoke - Obama is just a candidate.
Obama has used music as warmups for many of his appearances - as did
Hillary Clinton. I don't know if McCain uses live music or not but he
was told by John Mellencamp to stop using his music at rallies and
appearances.

WB Yeats

FACE

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Jul 26, 2008, 12:58:20 PM7/26/08
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:59:08 -0700 in uk.politics.misc, wby...@ireland.com

I've looked at this a couple of times to try and see what the above lead-in
has to do with my question. Just information, I guess.......... ;-)

FACE

Bradley K. Sherman

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Jul 26, 2008, 1:00:28 PM7/26/08
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When is McBush going to have a rock concert and draw 200,000?
Or even 20,000?

--bks

Ivan Gowch

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Jul 28, 2008, 10:20:28 AM7/28/08
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:00:28 +0000 (UTC), b...@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

==>When is McBush going to have a rock concert and draw 200,000?
==>Or even 20,000?

McCain can't draw a dozen people to his appearances
these days because he's a bore and a fool and has
absolutely nothing to say.

But that doesn't mean shit -- he's going to win in
November.

There are two reasons for this:

1. Americans are, by and large, racist assholes who
will not be able to bring themselves to elect a
black president no matter how superior he may be
to his white opponent; Americans are also
cowardly yet compliant bullies who will always
choose to be ruled by a militaristic,
tough-talking, half-bright blowhard over someone
who displays reason, intelligence and tolerance.

2. If it appears that Obama might actually win, the
same forces who stole two elections for George
W. Bush will steal the next one for McCain.

--
The men American people admire most extravagantly
are the most daring liars; the men they detest most
violently are those who try and tell them the truth.
-H.L. Mencken

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Ivan Gowch

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