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Bradley K. Sherman
Aug 17, 2017, 10:31:16 PM8/17/17
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| Donald Trump Is a Nazi Sympathizer
| ...
| For the first time in our history, a Nazi sympathizer
| occupies the Oval Office. His comments during a press
| conference on August 15 in which he spontaneously
| reiterated his support for white supremacist protesters
| left the world slack-jawed in disbelief and forced a stark
| moral choice upon senior officials in his administration:
| vigorously denounce the heinous views of the man they
| serve, resign in protest, or be forever linked to America's
| first Nazi-supporting president.
| ...
<http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/donald-trump-is-a-nazi-sympathizer/amp/>
--bks
| Donald Trump Is a Nazi Sympathizer
| ...
| For the first time in our history, a Nazi sympathizer
| occupies the Oval Office. His comments during a press
| conference on August 15 in which he spontaneously
| reiterated his support for white supremacist protesters
| left the world slack-jawed in disbelief and forced a stark
| moral choice upon senior officials in his administration:
| vigorously denounce the heinous views of the man they
| serve, resign in protest, or be forever linked to America's
| first Nazi-supporting president.
| ...
<http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/donald-trump-is-a-nazi-sympathizer/amp/>
--bks
DoD
Aug 18, 2017, 12:54:04 AM8/18/17
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Oleg Smirnov
Aug 18, 2017, 2:52:44 AM8/18/17
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Bradley K. Sherman, <news:on5jhi$nps$1...@panix2.panix.com>
Many US presidents were actually Nazi sympathizers, including Obama.
<http://tinyurl.com/omb75qt>
Seven Decades of Nazi Collaboration: America's Dirty Little Ukraine Secret
.. They reconstituted the veterans group of the Waffen SS, they held marches
in the 1990s in the Ukraine, and organized political parties, in alliance with
the United States, and became part of what was called the Orange Revolution in
2004, when they won the election there.
The prime minister was closely allied with them. They worked with the new
government to get veterans benefits for the Ukrainian SS division veterans,
and they started establishing the statues and memorials and museums for Stepan
Bandera, who was the leader of the OUN, and who I should say was despised by
other Ukrainian nationalists because of their methods, because they were
extreme and violent toward other rival Ukrainian nationalist groups as well.
So Bandera wasn't a universal hero, but this group was so influential, in part
because of its US connections ..
That government was in power until 2010, when there was another election, and
a new regime was elected with a lot of support from the East. Ukrainian
nationalist groupings around the Orange Revolution were sharply divided
against each other, and there was rampant corruption, and people voted them
out. The United States was very aggressive in trying to keep the nationalists
in power, but they lost the election. The United States was spending money
through the National Endowment for Democracy, which was pumping money into
various Ukrainian organizations, and they were doing the same thing in Russia
and many other countries around the world as well. We're talking about many
millions of dollars a year to affect the politics of these countries.
When the occupations came in Independence Square in Kiev late last year, you
can see Svoboda's supporters and you can hear their leaders in the parliament
making blatant anti-semitic remarks. The leader of the Svoboda party went to
Germany to protest the prosecution of John Demjanjuk, who was the Ukrainian
who was settled in the United States, who was implicated as a concentration
camp guard in the killing of innocent people. ..
Read it in full <http://tinyurl.com/omb75qt>
<http://tinyurl.com/omb75qt>
Seven Decades of Nazi Collaboration: America's Dirty Little Ukraine Secret
.. They reconstituted the veterans group of the Waffen SS, they held marches
in the 1990s in the Ukraine, and organized political parties, in alliance with
the United States, and became part of what was called the Orange Revolution in
2004, when they won the election there.
The prime minister was closely allied with them. They worked with the new
government to get veterans benefits for the Ukrainian SS division veterans,
and they started establishing the statues and memorials and museums for Stepan
Bandera, who was the leader of the OUN, and who I should say was despised by
other Ukrainian nationalists because of their methods, because they were
extreme and violent toward other rival Ukrainian nationalist groups as well.
So Bandera wasn't a universal hero, but this group was so influential, in part
because of its US connections ..
That government was in power until 2010, when there was another election, and
a new regime was elected with a lot of support from the East. Ukrainian
nationalist groupings around the Orange Revolution were sharply divided
against each other, and there was rampant corruption, and people voted them
out. The United States was very aggressive in trying to keep the nationalists
in power, but they lost the election. The United States was spending money
through the National Endowment for Democracy, which was pumping money into
various Ukrainian organizations, and they were doing the same thing in Russia
and many other countries around the world as well. We're talking about many
millions of dollars a year to affect the politics of these countries.
When the occupations came in Independence Square in Kiev late last year, you
can see Svoboda's supporters and you can hear their leaders in the parliament
making blatant anti-semitic remarks. The leader of the Svoboda party went to
Germany to protest the prosecution of John Demjanjuk, who was the Ukrainian
who was settled in the United States, who was implicated as a concentration
camp guard in the killing of innocent people. ..
Read it in full <http://tinyurl.com/omb75qt>
Dhu on Gate
Aug 18, 2017, 5:48:03 AM8/18/17
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 09:51:50 +0300, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> Stepan Bandera
Was a NAZI. The +real_thing+. Like Coke.
Dhu
--
Je suis Canadien. Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglaise.
C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-)
http://babayaga.neotext.ca/PublicKeys/Duncan_Patton_a_Campbell_pubkey.txt
> Stepan Bandera
Was a NAZI. The +real_thing+. Like Coke.
Dhu
--
Je suis Canadien. Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglaise.
C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-)
http://babayaga.neotext.ca/PublicKeys/Duncan_Patton_a_Campbell_pubkey.txt
Oleg Smirnov
Aug 19, 2017, 12:57:47 PM8/19/17
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PIBB, <news:XnsA7D6A0B...@81.171.118.180>
> in Europe in the 20th century we forget one thing. The Soviets
> under Stalin were even more despised. Although Russia
> techically belongs to Europe, we tend reflexively not to easily
> see it as European and overlook this.
Russia is not a Europe, and it doesn't seek to be a Europe.
Meanwhile, the very idea that Europe is something about which
Russia is supposed to belong or not belong to is essentially a
Nazi filth. And these morons believe that Russia craves to join
Europe and has to fulfill something in order to 'join' Europe.
Not the case, and the Russians dislike the Nazis.
Hitler was/is a genuine 'western' thing. He was not an original
thinker, just more straight. The 'western' culture (Reformation
and Enlightenment) is the field the Nazism naturally grew from.
Hitler sought to fulfill enlightening and civilizational
mission in an essentially similar way like the modern 'western'
progressive left pretends to carry such a mission.
It's simply 'softer nazism' vs 'harder nazism'.
> Through such thinking the Nazis have become the instant
> hate figure even though on the Eastern front the Soviets
> were hated more.
>
> And so to the Ukrainians. In WWII they were when forced
> to choose between the horrors of the Stalinist Soviet
> Union and Nazi Germany. They chose to fight the Soviets.
There were various people among the Ukrainians as well as
among the Russians as well as among other ethnicities who chose
to fight the Soviets within the Nazi ranks at the time.
It doesn't allow you to speak about 'the Ukrainians' as a whole.
They didn't delegate you a right to speak on their behalf. It's
one of the most disgusting things when an ignorant moron with
primitive ideas and a very little and / or distorted knowledge
boldly speaks on behalf of a nation or something like that.
You can make some conclusion when people did vote for something,
or on the base of some polls. But the morons love to speak on
the base of fantasies and beliefs they were indoctrinated, and
that's exactly what you do.
> Decades later these details are blurred and now we might
> try to deride the Ukrainians and simplistically say they
> sided with Nazis but they did so only with great
> reluctance and under the extreme duress.
>
> The hatred of the Soviets and now the Russians make
> Ukraine a natural ally of the West but Putin is fearful
> of a pro-western country like Ukraine on Russia's border,
> so he installed puppet regimes there and when a few years
> ago a popular mandate wanted closer ties with the
> European Union Putin invaded Ukraine and took Crimea.
'Putin' did not install 'puppet regimes' nowhere, and the
Yanukovych's government in the Ukraine was not a puppet. He was
absolutely legitimately elected without any Russian / "Putin's"
meddling there. And, as I said before, if he was a puppet then
he'd reject the 'western' mediation in their internal crisis.
The shitheads like you need to repeat these mantras and make up
various fantasies about what the Ukrainians allegedly feel and
want in order to justify the anti-democratic coup, backed by the
US and EU. I gave facts and numbers. You can't accept the reality
as it is, because you are a cultist, a [Nazi] bigot.
> On 07:51 18 Aug 2017, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>> Many US presidents were actually Nazi sympathizers,
>> including Obama.
>>
>> <http://tinyurl.com/omb75qt>
>>
>> Seven Decades of Nazi Collaboration: America's Dirty
>> Little Ukraine Secret
> When we think that the German Nazis were the most hated force
>> Many US presidents were actually Nazi sympathizers,
>> including Obama.
>>
>> <http://tinyurl.com/omb75qt>
>>
>> Seven Decades of Nazi Collaboration: America's Dirty
>> Little Ukraine Secret
> in Europe in the 20th century we forget one thing. The Soviets
> under Stalin were even more despised. Although Russia
> techically belongs to Europe, we tend reflexively not to easily
> see it as European and overlook this.
Russia is not a Europe, and it doesn't seek to be a Europe.
Meanwhile, the very idea that Europe is something about which
Russia is supposed to belong or not belong to is essentially a
Nazi filth. And these morons believe that Russia craves to join
Europe and has to fulfill something in order to 'join' Europe.
Not the case, and the Russians dislike the Nazis.
Hitler was/is a genuine 'western' thing. He was not an original
thinker, just more straight. The 'western' culture (Reformation
and Enlightenment) is the field the Nazism naturally grew from.
Hitler sought to fulfill enlightening and civilizational
mission in an essentially similar way like the modern 'western'
progressive left pretends to carry such a mission.
It's simply 'softer nazism' vs 'harder nazism'.
> Through such thinking the Nazis have become the instant
> hate figure even though on the Eastern front the Soviets
> were hated more.
>
> And so to the Ukrainians. In WWII they were when forced
> to choose between the horrors of the Stalinist Soviet
> Union and Nazi Germany. They chose to fight the Soviets.
There were various people among the Ukrainians as well as
among the Russians as well as among other ethnicities who chose
to fight the Soviets within the Nazi ranks at the time.
It doesn't allow you to speak about 'the Ukrainians' as a whole.
They didn't delegate you a right to speak on their behalf. It's
one of the most disgusting things when an ignorant moron with
primitive ideas and a very little and / or distorted knowledge
boldly speaks on behalf of a nation or something like that.
You can make some conclusion when people did vote for something,
or on the base of some polls. But the morons love to speak on
the base of fantasies and beliefs they were indoctrinated, and
that's exactly what you do.
> Decades later these details are blurred and now we might
> try to deride the Ukrainians and simplistically say they
> sided with Nazis but they did so only with great
> reluctance and under the extreme duress.
>
> The hatred of the Soviets and now the Russians make
> Ukraine a natural ally of the West but Putin is fearful
> of a pro-western country like Ukraine on Russia's border,
> so he installed puppet regimes there and when a few years
> ago a popular mandate wanted closer ties with the
> European Union Putin invaded Ukraine and took Crimea.
'Putin' did not install 'puppet regimes' nowhere, and the
Yanukovych's government in the Ukraine was not a puppet. He was
absolutely legitimately elected without any Russian / "Putin's"
meddling there. And, as I said before, if he was a puppet then
he'd reject the 'western' mediation in their internal crisis.
The shitheads like you need to repeat these mantras and make up
various fantasies about what the Ukrainians allegedly feel and
want in order to justify the anti-democratic coup, backed by the
US and EU. I gave facts and numbers. You can't accept the reality
as it is, because you are a cultist, a [Nazi] bigot.
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