MORE FauxFrauds
Cliff
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-c_n_362897.html
"Fox News Runs Old Palin Campaign Footage, Reports It As Book-Signing Crowds
[UPDATE]"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091119/ts_ynews/ynews_ts988_5
[
For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire for
misusing old news footage. The latest flap is leading some people to charge that
the cable news network is intentionally misleading its audience, while Fox
claims a "production error."
Wednesday's incident occurred when Fox News host Gregg Jarrett mentioned that a
Sarah Palin appearance and book signing in Grand Rapids, Michigan had a massive
turnout. As footage rolled of a smiling and waving Palin amidst a throng of
fans, Jarrett noted that the former Republican vice-presidential candidate is
"continuing to draw huge crowds while she's promoting her brand-new book,''
adding that the images being shown were "some of the pictures just coming in to
us.... The lines earlier had formed this morning."
However, the video used in the segment was from a 2008 McCain/Palin campaign
rally.
]
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2009/11/fox_news_uses_misleading_foota.html
[
During Fox News' coverage of Sarah Palin's "Going Rogue" kickoff Wednesday, host
Gregg Jarrett talked about the huge crowds the former Alaska governor and GOP
vice presidential candidate was drawing on the road.
The show, "Happening Now" aired in the afternoon, before the first signing took
place Wednesday night at the Woodland Mall Barnes & Noble in Kentwood. He
claimed Palin was "continuing to draw huge crowds" on her promotional tour,
which is a weird enough thing to say before said tour has even officially kicked
off.
But, as Think Progress points out, the footage used over the report is actually
from the 2008 presidential campaign. Doesn't look much like Woodland Mall,
anyway. You can even see McCain-Palin signs:
]
" ... a weird enough thing to say before said tour has even officially kicked
off."
"You can even see McCain-Palin signs"
Stupid wingers just never learn .. their lies get caught. And caught. And
caught.
--
Cliff
Gray Ghost
news:f9tfg5d85hgojvcau...@4ax.com:
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-c_n_36289
> 7.html
The Huffington Post?
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Cough, cough.
--
�Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel
of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery.� Winston
Churchill
Cliff
"Stupid wingers just never learn .. their lies get caught. And caught And
caught."
....the_pc_jellllybean!!.!!!!.
"Winston_Smith" <not_...@bogus.net> wrote in message
news:59ahg5ddf1ovf7t7o...@4ax.com...
> Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
>>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-c_n_362897.html
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091119/ts_ynews/ynews_ts988_5
>>For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire for
>>misusing old news footage.
>
> death care and his collapsing economy.
>
> Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
> hands of a socialist, now does it?
What "collapsing economy", dipshit?
And what "dead nation", dipshit?
Man you rightards are so fucking funny with egg all over your ugly mugs.
Lookout
wrote:
>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
>>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-c_n_362897.html
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091119/ts_ynews/ynews_ts988_5
>>For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire for
>>misusing old news footage.
>
>I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of Obama's
>death care and his collapsing economy.
>
>Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
>hands of a socialist, now does it?
But that's not happening. You're lying.
Freestyle
>
> I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of Obama's
> death care and his collapsing economy.
>
Typical Wingnut dodge.
How about addressing the fact that Fox News blatantly lies to you and
you accept it because it is what you want to hear.
> Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
> hands of a socialist, now does it?
See above about Fox News Lies.
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
> I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of Obama's
> death care . . .
What do you feel wrong with counseling the elderly reaching end of life?
--
Regards, Curly
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2012 Run, Sarah, Run! 2012
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Too_Many_Tools
> Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
> >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-c_n_...
> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091119/ts_ynews/ynews_ts988_5
> >For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire for
> >misusing old news footage.
>
>
> Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
> hands of a socialist, now does it?
Making excuses for Faux News now Winston?
TMT
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
> Not a bit. I'm just wondering why the leftist wingers are so fixated on
> it in the face of so many real problems.
I can't speak for that straw man but personally I am interested in
destroying any concentration of power which threatens my nation.
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
> Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:01:26 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of Obama's
>>> death care . . .
>>
>>What do you feel wrong with counseling the elderly reaching end of life?
>
> It does have the virtue of keeping ObamaCare on budget.
Then why were you using a provocatively incorrect name?
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
> Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
> hands of a socialist, now does it?
No, it doesn't. Are we to make a choice between lies and the U.S.S.R.?
Is it right to permit a federal licensee to lie using the public airwaves
because socialism is bad?
I fail to grok the relationship. There will always be tragedies and bad
players. Why should that prevent eradicating lesser evils? Do I ignore
the tape worms because I have a hernia?
Even if your assertion were true it does not, in any way, justify turning
a blind eye to the lies, deceit, propaganda, and misdirections of Fox
"News." I don't understand why you'd put your reputation in the same
basket as Fox "News."
lorad
wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:01:26 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
> > hands of a socialist, now does it?
>
> No, it doesn't. Are we to make a choice between lies and the U.S.S.R.?
> Is it right to permit a federal licensee to lie using the public airwaves
> because socialism is bad?
>
> I fail to grok the relationship. There will always be tragedies and bad
> players. Why should that prevent eradicating lesser evils? Do I ignore
> the tape worms because I have a hernia?
>
> Even if your assertion were true it does not, in any way, justify turning
> a blind eye to the lies, deceit, propaganda, and misdirections of Fox
> "News." I don't understand why you'd put your reputation in the same
> basket as Fox "News."
>
> --
> Regards, Curly
> 2012 Run, Sarah, Run! 2012
Obama's failure to reinstate The Fairness Doctrine illustrates his
corporate subservience.
Gunner Asch
Obamas failure to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine simply reveals how
close to outright bloody Revolution the United States really is.
If he had tried...it would only have brought the inevitable..that much
faster.
Gunner
"Aren't cats Libertarian? They just want to be left alone.
I think our dog is a Democrat, as he is always looking for a handout"
Unknown Usnet Poster
Heh, heh, I'm pretty sure my dog is a liberal - he has no balls.
Keyton
bobsyo...@yahoo.com
Propaganda lies hardly compare with the death of democracy (and two,
expensive and illegal wars), at the hands of a republican.
Mitchell Holman
news:aplhg5h78m6b5o46v...@4ax.com:
> Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Nov 21, 9:01�pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
>>> Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>> >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-c_n
>>> >_...
>>> > �http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091119/ts_ynews/ynews_ts988_5
>>> >For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under
>>> >fire for misusing old news footage.
>>>
>>> I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of
>>> Obama's death care and his collapsing economy.
>>>
>>> Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
>>> hands of a socialist, now does it?
>>
>>Making excuses for Faux News now Winston?
>
> Not a bit. I'm just wondering why the leftist wingers are so fixated
> on it in the face of so many real problems.
How many of those "real problems" DIDN'T start
under the last president?
krp
"Pepsi...@teranews.com" <bobsyo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:I49Om.22034$tz6....@newsfe02.iad...
>> I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of Obama's
>> death care and his collapsing economy.
> Typical Wingnut dodge.
> How about addressing the fact that Fox News blatantly lies to you and
> you accept it because it is what you want to hear.
Like planting BOMBS in trucks for a "NEWS" program like NBC? Things like
quoting FAKE memos like Dan Rather? Not to mention things Olberman makes up.
Give me a break. Fox screws up, but NBC is deliberate in its BULLLSHIT!
SaPeIsMa
"Freestyle" <bris...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e0d4c161-b04f-41e8...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 21, 10:01 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> puked:
>
> I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of Obama's
> death care and his collapsing economy.
>
# Typical Wingnut dodge.
# How about addressing the fact that Fox News blatantly lies to you and
# you accept it because it is what you want to hear.
That would require that I watch Fox News
That is also true of many others that you claim "Fox News blatantly lies to
you "
Since I don't even have cable, that means that you need to come up with
another "Typical Wingnut dodge" projection
> Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
> hands of a socialist, now does it?
#
# See above about Fox News Lies.
Is that like the illegal use of a picture of Sarah Palin on Newsweek's cover
?
How about the documents used in Rather-gate by 60 Minutes and the New York
Times ?
Clean up your own messes before you look in the neighbors yard, moron
Cliff
>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
>>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-c_n_362897.html
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091119/ts_ynews/ynews_ts988_5
>>For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire for
>>misusing old news footage.
>
>I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of Obama's
>death care and his collapsing economy.
>
>Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
>hands of a socialist, now does it?
Trying to change the subject ....
Your head is on backwards but don't look now.
--
Cliff
Cliff
>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
>>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-c_n_362897.html
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091119/ts_ynews/ynews_ts988_5
>>For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire for
>>misusing old news footage.
>
>I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of Obama's
>death care
The current plans does death quite nicely.
Get sick, lose care, die.
Cancer treatment as an example, is down a lot.
It's hurt a stocks I own due to fewer people
getting care.
Pretty good, right?
>and his collapsing economy.
The bushco economy.
>Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
>hands of a socialist, now does it?
Wingers lie.
Faux keeps getting caught at it.
--
Cliff
Jerry Okamura
"Freestyle" <bris...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e0d4c161-b04f-41e8...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>
> I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of Obama's
> death care and his collapsing economy.
>
Typical Wingnut dodge.
How about addressing the fact that Fox News blatantly lies to you and
you accept it because it is what you want to hear.
Typical left wing response. How about doing one simple thing. Tell us
where you think Fox News has told a blatant lie? Or are you accusing
someone else of lying, when it is you who is lying?
cncmillgil
wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:01:26 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
> >Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
> >>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-c_n_...
> >>For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire for
> >>misusing old news footage.
>
> >I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of Obama's
> >death care
>
> The current plans does death quite nicely.
> Get sick, lose care, die.
>
> Cancer treatment as an example, is down a lot.
> It's hurt a stocks I own due to fewer people
> getting care.
> Pretty good, right?
>
> >and his collapsing economy.
>
> The bushco economy.
>
> >Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
> >hands of a socialist, now does it?
>
> Wingers lie.
> Faux keeps getting caught at it.
> --
> Cliff
So whats CNBC & AP's problem?
--
Gil
Cliff
>Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:01:26 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of Obama's
>>> death care . . .
>>
>>What do you feel wrong with counseling the elderly reaching end of life?
>
>It does have the virtue of keeping ObamaCare on budget.
Not at all part of any issue.
You clearly have no idea at all what any of this is about but chose to remain
ignorant & get fed winger lies.
http://www.chicagodefender.com/article-6058-study-finds-end-of-life-counseling-improves-mood.html
Remain the fool for all I care.
--
Cliff
ray
"Pepsi...@teranews.com" <bobsyo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I think you socialists better give up on the "lie" thing given who you
elected for President. This guy lied more in his first six months of
office than you can ever lay on GW in 8 years.
--
Barock Insane Obama: The greatest joke America ever played on itself.
Cliff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine
Wingers could not stand it.
Too much truth.
http://www.newshounds.us/2007/06/28/fair_and_balanced_fox_fears_fairness_doctrine.php
""Fair and balanced" FOX fears Fairness Doctrine"
--
Cliff
Cliff
wrote:
Since when is it Obama's fault that wingers lie?
--
Cliff
Curly Surmudgeon
That is possible. It is also possible that with the many disasters
facing him that Obama is picking his battles carefully. Personally I'm
trying to rein in both anger over Obama's failure to perform on some
issues vs. the combination of hopes and expectations.
--
Regards, Curly
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Curly Surmudgeon
Ain't that the truth?
> http://www.newshounds.us/2007/06/28/
fair_and_balanced_fox_fears_fairness_doctrine.php
> ""Fair and balanced" FOX fears Fairness Doctrine"
--
Regards, Curly
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2012 Run, Sarah, Run! 2012
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Freestyle
wrote:
> "Freestyle" <brist...@gmail.com> wrote in message
I'll do you one better. With pictures and video so you won't get too
confused:
Fox News Caught Using Election Footage For Sarah Palin Book Signing
http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-news/fox-news-caught-using-election-footage-for-sarah-palin-book-signing/#ixzz0Xc3eUFbC
aught-using-election-footage-for-sarah-palin-book-signing/
Recent Falsehoods From Rupert Murdoch
http://foxnewsboycott.com/rupert-murdoch/recent-falsehoods-from-rupert-murdoch/
Sean Hannity Caught Using 9/12 Video to Inflate Bachmann Rally
http://foxnewsboycott.com/sean-hannity/sean-hannity-caught-using-912-video-to-inflate-bachmann-rally-s/
Sean Hannity Attempts to Tie Ft. Hood Shooting To Obama
http://foxnewsboycott.com/sean-hannity/sean-hannity-attempts-to-tie-ft-hood-shooting-to-obama/
Fox News ‘Misreporting’ on Obama’s Election Night
http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-news/fox-news-misreporting-on-obamas-election-night/
Fox News’ Philly ACORN Fabrication
http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-news/fox-news-philly-acorn-fabrication/
Fox & Friends Uses Outdated Poll to Show Balance
http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-friends/fox-friends-uses-outdated-poll-to-show-balance/
Truth-O-Meter on Glenn Beck Falsehoods
http://foxnewsboycott.com/glenn-beck/truth-o-meter-on-glenn-beck-falsehoods/
Fox News Falsely Connects Kevin Jennings To NAMBLA
http://foxnewsboycott.com/sean-hannity/fox-news-falsely-connects-kevin-jennings-to-nambla/
FoxNation Posts FY09 Budget Deficit Falsehood
http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-nation/foxnation-posts-fy09-budget-deficit-falsehood/
And so many more...
Klaus Schadenfreude
It is not our place to dictate which main stream media outlet provides
the most accurate and/or unbiased representation of current events.
The media, in its vast majority, can and will make errors from time to
time and various opinionated personalities may have a particular
partisan slant to their editorials. That is for someone else to
discuss on another web site.
Read more: http://foxnewsboycott.com/about-fnb/#ixzz0Xc9Yr9TU
[chuckle]
Freestyle
wrote:
> In talk.politics.guns Freestyle <brist...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Nov 22, 11:30 am, "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj...@hawaii.rr.com>
> >wrote:
> >> "Freestyle" <brist...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:e0d4c161-b04f-41e8...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Nov 21, 10:01 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> puked:
>
> >> > I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of Obama's
> >> > death care and his collapsing economy.
>
> >> Typical Wingnut dodge.
> >> How about addressing the fact that Fox News blatantly lies to you and
> >> you accept it because it is what you want to hear.
>
> >> Typical left wing response. How about doing one simple thing. Tell us
> >> where you think Fox News has told a blatant lie? Or are you accusing
> >> someone else of lying, when it is you who is lying?
>
> >I'll do you one better. With pictures and video so you won't get too
> >confused:
>
> >Fox News Caught Using Election Footage For Sarah Palin Book Signing
> >aught-using-election-footage-for-sarah-palin-book-signing/
>
> >Recent Falsehoods From Rupert Murdoch
>
> >Sean Hannity Caught Using 9/12 Video to Inflate Bachmann Rally
>
> >Sean Hannity Attempts to Tie Ft. Hood Shooting To Obama
>
> >Fox News ‘Misreporting’ on Obama’s Election Night
>
> >Fox News’ Philly ACORN Fabrication
> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-news/fox-news-philly-acorn-fabrication/
>
> >Fox & Friends Uses Outdated Poll to Show Balance
>
> >Truth-O-Meter on Glenn Beck Falsehoods
>
> >Fox News Falsely Connects Kevin Jennings To NAMBLA
>
> >FoxNation Posts FY09 Budget Deficit Falsehood
>
> >And so many more...
>
> It is not our place to dictate which main stream media outlet provides
> the most accurate and/or unbiased representation of current events.
> The media, in its vast majority, can and will make errors from time to
> time and various opinionated personalities may have a particular
> partisan slant to their editorials. That is for someone else to
> discuss on another web site.
>
> Read more:http://foxnewsboycott.com/about-fnb/#ixzz0Xc9Yr9TU
>
> [chuckle]
>
More reality bob and weave from the lunatic fringe.
Care to address the substance of the articles chuckles?
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
Why the artificial threshold of "start under the last president"?
Truman had a famous plaque on his desk that said, "The Buck Stops Here".
I find it ludicrous that the Bushbots blamed Clinton for 8 years then,
when Bush left office, claim everything is Obama's responsibility as if
your guy had nothing to do with anything and his 8 years of malfeasance
never occurred.
Klaus Schadenfreude
So text from the web site you quoted isn't reality? [chuckle]
Freestyle
weakly evaded:
> In talk.politics.guns Freestyle <brist...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >More reality bob and weave from the lunatic fringe.
>
> So text from the web site you quoted isn't reality? [chuckle]
>
Lame as expected.
Pick any one article and dispute it if you can chuckles.
I double dog dare you.
But you won't. You can't.
Klaus Schadenfreude
>On Nov 22, 1:36�pm, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
>weakly evaded:
>> In talk.politics.guns Freestyle <brist...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >More reality bob and weave from the lunatic fringe.
>>
>> So text from the web site you quoted isn't reality? [chuckle]
>>
>
>Lame as expected.
Yes, the site was lame. But then, what do you expect from people who
are too stupid to understand that Bill O'Rielly isn't hard news?
[chuckle]
Fuck you guys are stupid!.
Freestyle
wrote:
> In talk.politics.guns Freestyle <brist...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Nov 22, 1:36 pm, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
> >weakly evaded:
> >> In talk.politics.guns Freestyle <brist...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >More reality bob and weave from the lunatic fringe.
>
> >> So text from the web site you quoted isn't reality? [chuckle]
>
> >Lame as expected.
>
> Yes, the site was lame. But then, what do you expect from people who
> are too stupid to understand that Bill O'Rielly isn't hard news?
>
> [chuckle]
>
> Fuck you guys are stupid!.
Still no dispute? More duck and dodge??
Well chuckles, I will take that as a concession on your part that,
despite the source, you can't dispute the Fox News lies in the
articles.
When did I claim O'Rielly was hard news? Weak.
Fuck, you guys are lame!
Mitchell Holman
news:hec0bk$nat$3...@news.eternal-september.org:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:21:53 -0600, Mitchell Holman
> <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net> wrote in
>> news:aplhg5h78m6b5o46v...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Nov 21, 9:01 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
>>>>> Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>>>> >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-c
>>>>> >_n _...
>>>>> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091119/ts_ynews/ynews_ts988_5
>>>>> >For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under
>>>>> >fire for misusing old news footage.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of
>>>>> Obama's death care and his collapsing economy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at
>>>>> the hands of a socialist, now does it?
>>>>
>>>>Making excuses for Faux News now Winston?
>>>
>>> Not a bit. I'm just wondering why the leftist wingers are so
>>> fixated on it in the face of so many real problems.
>>
>>
>>
>> How many of those "real problems" DIDN'T start
>> under the last president?
>
> Why the artificial threshold of "start under the last president"?
>
> Truman had a famous plaque on his desk that said, "The Buck Stops
> Here". I find it ludicrous that the Bushbots blamed Clinton for 8
> years then, when Bush left office, claim everything is Obama's
> responsibility as if your guy had nothing to do with anything and his
> 8 years of malfeasance never occurred.
>
Jan 20, 2009: The day when everything went from
being Clinton's fault to being Obama's fault.
Klaus Schadenfreude
>On Nov 22, 1:45�pm, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> In talk.politics.guns Freestyle <brist...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Nov 22, 1:36�pm, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
>> >weakly evaded:
>> >> In talk.politics.guns Freestyle <brist...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >More reality bob and weave from the lunatic fringe.
>>
>> >> So text from the web site you quoted isn't reality? [chuckle]
>>
>> >Lame as expected.
>>
>> Yes, the site was lame. But then, what do you expect from people who
>> are too stupid to understand that Bill O'Rielly isn't hard news?
>>
>> [chuckle]
>>
>> Fuck you guys are stupid!.
>
>Still no dispute?
Of COURSE there's no dispute about your stupidity. [chuckle]
Or your hatred of Fox News, or giving people a choice to watch some
right-wing "news" to counter the left-wing "news."
Just another case of BDS!
Freestyle
Your lameness know no bounds.
There is a distinct difference between outright lies and bias.
Fox "News" blatantly lies to it's sheeple audience because it is what
the trailer park crowd want to hear.
You are obviously several chromosomes short of a full DNA chain so I
wouldn't expect you to understand the difference.
Klaus Schadenfreude
>On Nov 22, 2:21�pm, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> In talk.politics.guns Freestyle <brist...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Nov 22, 1:45�pm, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >> In talk.politics.guns Freestyle <brist...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >On Nov 22, 1:36�pm, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
>> >> >weakly evaded:
>> >> >> In talk.politics.guns Freestyle <brist...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >More reality bob and weave from the lunatic fringe.
>>
>> >> >> So text from the web site you quoted isn't reality? [chuckle]
>>
>> >> >Lame as expected.
>>
>> >> Yes, the site was lame. But then, what do you expect from people who
>> >> are too stupid to understand that Bill O'Rielly isn't hard news?
>>
>> >> [chuckle]
>>
>> >> Fuck you guys are stupid!.
>>
>> >Still no dispute?
>>
>> Of COURSE there's no dispute about your stupidity. [chuckle]
>>
>> Or your hatred of Fox News, or giving people a choice to watch some
>> right-wing "news" to counter the left-wing "news."
>>
>> Just another case of BDS!
>>
>
>Your lameness know no bounds.
Neither does your Bush Derangement Syndrome.
Freestyle
Still nothing but dodge?
That's all you got? BDS?? lol.
It would seem that it has been replaced by a pandemic of ODS.
Thankfully, Dubya is now far away from buttons and shiny objects where
he belongs.
Now be a good little wingnut and continue to dodge and regurgitate
some mainstream rightarted media talking points for me.
Curly Surmudgeon
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
> Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:16:46 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Nov 21, 9:01 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
>>>>> Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>>>> >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-
>>c_n_...
>>>>> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091119/ts_ynews/ynews_ts988_5
>>>>> >For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under
>>>>> >fire for misusing old news footage.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of
>>>>> Obama's death care and his collapsing economy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
>>>>> hands of a socialist, now does it?
>>>>
>>>>Making excuses for Faux News now Winston?
>>>
>>> Not a bit. I'm just wondering why the leftist wingers are so fixated
>>> on it in the face of so many real problems.
>>
>>I can't speak for that straw man but personally I am interested in
>>destroying any concentration of power which threatens my nation.
>
> I suggest you take a close look at the one party system currently
> operating in Washington. It's every bit as bad as the one we had in the
> first Bush term and you were quite critical of that.
Actually I agree that the Democrats are incapable of governing according
to the principles of our Constitution. What I am unwilling to do at this
point is to undermine Obama. Not until the economic crisis is resolved
one way or the other.
I do see the dangers of socialism and do not like them. I also
understand that a disintegrating federal government is an even bigger
danger. Perhaps you've not experienced a society in civil war and non-
functional central government. That is even worse that what we now have.
The economy is Obama's Dan Quayle.
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
> Mitchell Holman <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net> wrote in
>>news:aplhg5h78m6b5o46v...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Nov 21, 9:01 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
>>>>> Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>>>> >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-
c_n
>>>>> >_...
>>>>> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091119/ts_ynews/ynews_ts988_5
>>>>> >For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under
>>>>> >fire for misusing old news footage.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of
>>>>> Obama's death care and his collapsing economy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
>>>>> hands of a socialist, now does it?
>>>>
>>>>Making excuses for Faux News now Winston?
>>>
>>> Not a bit. I'm just wondering why the leftist wingers are so fixated
>>> on it in the face of so many real problems.
>>
>> How many of those "real problems" DIDN'T start
>>under the last president?
>
> All of them started under Bush.
Close, Bush inherited many of these problems when they were infants
however his policies and actions brought them to fruition.
> Now then. What's Obama planning to do with the mess he inherited and
> when do you suppose he will start?
That is the real issue, how do we get out of this quagmire. We disagree
that Obama has done nothing. The economic disintegration was halted and
markets are stabilizing. This may be a temporary situation as the
fundamentals haven't change much however the use of shock therapy carries
its own dangers.
For instance allowing BofA, Chase, AIG and Goldman to collapse would have
made 1931 look like a walk in the park. There were no good options, this
situation will take decades to repair and I still have hopes that those
who are "too big to fail" will be broken up and those who have been
terribly mismanaged will be allowed to fail.
> Or is the plan to just bitch about FOX until the economy fixes itself or
> collapses taking the nation with it?
>
> Bush went for eight years blaming everything on Clinton. From your
> reply, it looks like Obama is going to nothing constructive for his
> eight years while blaming everything on Bush.
We disagree. Obama is being true to his election promises even if he's
altered course on some issues or changed his mind on others. America is
getting what it voted for. Neither of us like what America voted for but
don't mischaracterize actions taken as "nothing."
> I was hoping for "hope". I was hoping for "change". What I got was the
> audacity of failure.
That chapter hasn't been written yet.
Gray Ghost
news:d1098ec6-6beb-419e...@o10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
FocNewsBoycott.com! Wow that sounds like a totally fair and balanced website
spewing more of the same bullshit.
--
�Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel
of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery.� Winston
Churchill
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
> Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:01:26 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
>>> hands of a socialist, now does it?
>>
>>No, it doesn't. Are we to make a choice between lies and the U.S.S.R.?
>>Is it right to permit a federal licensee to lie using the public
>>airwaves because socialism is bad?
>>
>>I fail to grok the relationship. There will always be tragedies and bad
>>players. Why should that prevent eradicating lesser evils? Do I ignore
>>the tape worms because I have a hernia?
>>
>>Even if your assertion were true it does not, in any way, justify
>>turning a blind eye to the lies, deceit, propaganda, and misdirections
>>of Fox "News." I don't understand why you'd put your reputation in the
>>same basket as Fox "News."
>
> You never listened to Air America I assume. Same lies, same public air
> waves. Different side of the aisle.
No, I've never listened to Air America. My visits to the US are limited
in time and radio doesn't reach Argentina. If Rachael Maddow is typical
then I've not missed anything. For some reason Maddow makes my skin
crawl but I've not caught her in lies.
I'm not asking for details but what lies has Air America made that you
can point to specifically?
Klaus Schadenfreude
No, I don't have it. You do.
Mitchell Holman
news:6e7jg5pte9esspcu8...@4ax.com:
> Mitchell Holman <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net> wrote in
>>news:aplhg5h78m6b5o46v...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Nov 21, 9:01�pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
>>>>> Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>>>> >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-
c_n
>>>>> >_...
>>>>> > �http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091119/ts_ynews/ynews_ts988_5
>>>>> >For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under
>>>>> >fire for misusing old news footage.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of
>>>>> Obama's death care and his collapsing economy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at
the
>>>>> hands of a socialist, now does it?
>>>>
>>>>Making excuses for Faux News now Winston?
>>>
>>> Not a bit. I'm just wondering why the leftist wingers are so fixated
>>> on it in the face of so many real problems.
>>
>> How many of those "real problems" DIDN'T start
>>under the last president?
>
> All of them started under Bush.
>
> Now then. What's Obama planning to do with the mess he inherited and
> when do you suppose he will start?
>
> Or is the plan to just bitch about FOX until the economy fixes itself
> or collapses taking the nation with it?
>
> Bush went for eight years blaming everything on Clinton. From your
> reply, it looks like Obama is going to nothing constructive for his
> eight years while blaming everything on Bush.
>
> I was hoping for "hope". I was hoping for "change". What I got was
> the audacity of failure.
Indeed. A president who does nothing as unemployment
soars to new levels in his first year in office even as
a recession he inherited deepens is well described as
a failure.
Unless, of course, his last name is REAGAN.......
"The unemployment rate in the U.S. reached 10.8% in
December 1982 � higher than at any time in post-war era.
Job cutbacks were particularly severe in housing, steel
and automobiles. By September 1982, the jobless rate
reached 10.8%. Twelve million people were unemployed,
an increase of 4.2 million people since July 1981.
Unemployment rates for every major group reached post-
war highs, with men age 20 and over particularly hard hit."
http://investment-blog.net/us-double-digits-unemployment-rate-of-1980-
1981-vs-2008-2009-single-digit/
Mitchell Holman
news:m08jg5tmhq4g2n6tq...@4ax.com:
> Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:01:26 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net>
>>wrote:
>
>>>I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of
>>>Obama's death care
>>
>> The current plans does death quite nicely.
>> Get sick, lose care, die.
>
> ObamaCare
> Get sick,
> flunky out holds hand and tells you how nice it is to die,
> die.
>
>>>and his collapsing economy.
>
>> The bushco economy.
>
> True. What's Obama planning to do to fix it and when do you suppose
> he will start?
>
>>>Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
>>>hands of a socialist, now does it?
>>
>> Wingers lie.
>> Faux keeps getting caught at it.'
>
> Leftist Wingers keep posting red herrings to take the heat off Obama's
> ongoing failures. The audacity of failure. I had "hoped" for better.
> It's Bush all over again. Not a bit of difference.
>
If your are talking about "radical socialist" Obama
and his habit of appointing Republicans, boosting military
spending, playing world policeman, enforcing the War on Drugs
and kicking gays out of the military then you have point.
Freestyle
wrote:
> Freestyle <brist...@gmail.com> wrote innews:d1098ec6-6beb-419e...@o10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 22, 11:30 am, "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj...@hawaii.rr.com>
> > wrote:
> >> "Freestyle" <brist...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:e0d4c161-b04f-41e8...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Nov 21, 10:01 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> puked:
>
> >> > I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of Obama's
> >> > death care and his collapsing economy.
>
> >> Typical Wingnut dodge.
> >> How about addressing the fact that Fox News blatantly lies to you and
> >> you accept it because it is what you want to hear.
>
> >> Typical left wing response. How about doing one simple thing. Tell us
> >> where you think Fox News has told a blatant lie? Or are you accusing
> >> someone else of lying, when it is you who is lying?
>
> > I'll do you one better. With pictures and video so you won't get too
> > confused:
>
> > Fox News Caught Using Election Footage For Sarah Palin Book Signing
> > for-sarah-palin-book-signing/#ixzz0Xc3eUFbC
> > aught-using-election-footage-for-sarah-palin-book-signing/
>
> > Recent Falsehoods From Rupert Murdoch
> > doch/
>
> > Sean Hannity Caught Using 9/12 Video to Inflate Bachmann Rally
> > -to-inflate-bachmann-rally-s/
>
> > Sean Hannity Attempts to Tie Ft. Hood Shooting To Obama
> > d-shooting-to-obama/
>
> > Fox News ‘Misreporting’ on Obama’s Election Night
> > n-night/
>
> > Fox News’ Philly ACORN Fabrication
> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-news/fox-news-philly-acorn-fabrication/
>
> > Fox & Friends Uses Outdated Poll to Show Balance
> > ow-balance/
>
> > Truth-O-Meter on Glenn Beck Falsehoods
> > s/
>
> > Fox News Falsely Connects Kevin Jennings To NAMBLA
> > nings-to-nambla/
>
> > FoxNation Posts FY09 Budget Deficit Falsehood
> > alsehood/
>
> > And so many more...
>
> FocNewsBoycott.com! Wow that sounds like a totally fair and balanced website
> spewing more of the same bullshit.
>
> --
> “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel
> of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery.” Winston
> Churchill
>
>
More dodgy lameness.
If the website is bogus then it should be easy to refute the content,
right?
Still waiting for any one of you wingbags to address the Fox News lies
in the articles.
<Cricket> <Cricket>
Freestyle
Klaus Schadenfreude
Good to see you're not denying it, ace. That's the first step to
recovery.
Klaus Schadenfreude
Poor baby- isn't anyone going to play with the troll?
Anyone?
[chuckle]
Gunner Asch
<noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>"The unemployment rate in the U.S. reached 10.8% in
>December 1982 � higher than at any time in post-war era.
Then of course you Leftards voted in the Obmassiah..and unemployment
rates are now up to 16%
Sucks to be you eh?
Laugh laugh laugh
Gunner
"Aren't cats Libertarian? They just want to be left alone.
I think our dog is a Democrat, as he is always looking for a handout"
Unknown Usnet Poster
Heh, heh, I'm pretty sure my dog is a liberal - he has no balls.
Keyton
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
> ObamaCare
> Get sick,
> flunky out holds hand and tells you how nice it is to die, die.
That's a pretty radical interpretation.
Freestyle
wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
You are completely and utterly irrelevant.
Now go back to the kids table with the rest of the clueless wanks.
Klaus Schadenfreude
That's why you keep responding, huh troll? [chuckle]
Gray Ghost
news:a21a5d19-f53c-4014...@o10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
Well, let's see. About 6 weeks ago, probably more I posted replies from 2 of
the companies that were "boycotting" Fox. It was news to them that they were
boycotting Fox.
And frankly I do try to stay away from hate websites.
Freestyle
wrote:
And that refutes Fox's Lies how?
>
> And frankly I do try to stay away from hate websites.
>
Convenient dodge, but still a dodge.
Gray Ghost
news:897e2407-d592-4729...@h10g2000vbm.googlegroups.com:
> On Nov 22, 9:27�pm, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost)
> wrote:
>> Freestyle <brist...@gmail.com> wrote
>> innews:a21a5d19-f53c-4014...@o10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Nov 22, 3:53�pm, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost)
>> > wrote:
>> >> Freestyle <brist...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> innews:d1098ec6-6beb-419e...@o10g2000yqa.googlegroups.c
>> >> om:
>>
>> >> > On Nov 22, 11:30�am, "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj...@hawaii.rr.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> "Freestyle" <brist...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >>news:e0d4c161-b04f-41e8...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.c
>> >> >>om. ..
>> >> >> On Nov 21, 10:01 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> puked:
>>
>> >> >> > I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of
>> >> >> > Obama's death care and his collapsing economy.
>>
>> >> >> Typical Wingnut dodge.
>> >> >> How about addressing the fact that Fox News blatantly lies to you
>> >> >> and you accept it because it is what you want to hear.
>>
>> >> >> Typical left wing response. �How about doing one simple thing.
>> >> >> �Tell us where you think Fox News has told a blatant lie? �Or are
>> >> >> you accusing someone else of lying, when it is you who is lying?
>>
>> >> > I'll do you one better. With pictures and video so you won't get
>> >> > too confused:
>>
>> >> > Fox News Caught Using Election Footage For Sarah Palin Book Signing
>> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-news/fox-news-caught-using-election-foo
>> >> >...
>> >> > for-sarah-palin-book-signing/#ixzz0Xc3eUFbC
>> >> > aught-using-election-footage-for-sarah-palin-book-signing/
>>
>> >> > Recent Falsehoods From Rupert Murdoch
>> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/rupert-murdoch/recent-falsehoods-from-ruper
>> >> >... doch/
>>
>> >> > Sean Hannity Caught Using 9/12 Video to Inflate Bachmann Rally
>> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/sean-hannity/sean-hannity-caught-using-912-
>> >> >... -to-inflate-bachmann-rally-s/
>>
>> >> > Sean Hannity Attempts to Tie Ft. Hood Shooting To Obama
>> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/sean-hannity/sean-hannity-attempts-to-tie-f
>> >> >... d-shooting-to-obama/
>>
>> >> > Fox News �Misreporting� on Obama�s Election Night
>> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-news/fox-news-misreporting-on-obamas-el
>> >> >... n-night/
>>
>> >> > Fox News� Philly ACORN Fabrication
>> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-news/fox-news-philly-acorn-fabrication/
>>
>> >> > Fox & Friends Uses Outdated Poll to Show Balance
>> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-friends/fox-friends-uses-outdated-poll-
>> >> >... ow-balance/
>>
>> >> > Truth-O-Meter on Glenn Beck Falsehoods
>> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/glenn-beck/truth-o-meter-on-glenn-beck-fals
>> >> >... s/
>>
>> >> > Fox News Falsely Connects Kevin Jennings To NAMBLA
>> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/sean-hannity/fox-news-falsely-connects-kevi
>> >> >... nings-to-nambla/
>>
>> >> > FoxNation Posts FY09 Budget Deficit Falsehood
>> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-nation/foxnation-posts-fy09-budget-defi
>> >> >... alsehood/
>>
>> >> > And so many more...
>>
>> >> FocNewsBoycott.com! Wow that sounds like a totally fair and balanced
>> >> website spewing more of the same bullshit.
>>
>> >> --
>> >> �Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the
>> >> gospel of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery.�
>> >> Winston Churchill
>>
>> > More dodgy lameness.
>> > If the website is bogus then it should be easy to refute the content,
>> > right?
>>
>> > Still waiting for any one of you wingbags to address the Fox News lies
>> > in the articles.
>>
>> ><Cricket> <Cricket>
>>
>> Well, let's see. About 6 weeks ago, probably more I posted replies from
>> 2 of the companies that were "boycotting" Fox. It was news to them that
>> they were boycotting Fox.
>>
>
> And that refutes Fox's Lies how?
>
>>
>> And frankly I do try to stay away from hate websites.
>>
>
> Convenient dodge, but still a dodge.
>
Ok since you are apparently to dense to get it, I don't buy the premise that
Fox is deliberately lieing about everything, everyday. I've eatched to many
"news" shows, read to many "news" magazines and papers over the last 20 years
to believe anything you baboons spit out.
Errors are one thing. "Deliberate lies". Nope, you've haven't provided an
ounce of proof and therefore no rebuttal is needed or forthcoming.
Freestyle
wrote:
Nobody asked you to respond. If you can't handle it just kill file me
and get lost.
Not one winger has yet to even attempt to refute my "proof".
All I asked for was anyone to rebutt any one of the articles and all I
get is more typical wingnut dodge, drivel and insipidity.
Rather than confront the topic you dodge stating that since you don't
buy it, the request isn't valid.
Horseshit. Who the fuck are you and who cares what YOU think?
EithersStop being a bunch of pussies and REFUTE the Fox lies if you
can or admit the truth that you cannot. (laff)
Hawke
>> news:aplhg5h78m6b5o46v...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Nov 21, 9:01 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
>>>>> Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/fox-news-runs-old-palin-c_n
>>>>>> _...
>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091119/ts_ynews/ynews_ts988_5
>>>>>> For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under
>>>>>> fire for misusing old news footage.
>>>>> Obama's death care and his collapsing economy.
>>>>>
>>>>> hands of a socialist, now does it?
>>> Not a bit. I'm just wondering why the leftist wingers are so fixated
>>> on it in the face of so many real problems.
>> How many of those "real problems" DIDN'T start
>> under the last president?
>
> All of them started under Bush.
>
> when do you suppose he will start?
>
> or collapses taking the nation with it?
>
> Bush went for eight years blaming everything on Clinton. From your
> reply, it looks like Obama is going to nothing constructive for his
> eight years while blaming everything on Bush.
>
> I was hoping for "hope". I was hoping for "change". What I got was
> the audacity of failure.
Two wars, a great recession, a near collapse of the banking system, and
you're bitching that Obama hasn't fixed them all yet. He is a capable
guy but he's not superman. It took Bush several years to create this
mess. The least you can do is give Obama a few years before declaring
him a failure.
Hawke
Hawke
> and automobiles. By September 1982, the jobless rate
> reached 10.8%. Twelve million people were unemployed,
> an increase of 4.2 million people since July 1981.
> Unemployment rates for every major group reached post-
> war highs, with men age 20 and over particularly hard hit."
>
> http://investment-blog.net/us-double-digits-unemployment-rate-of-1980-
> 1981-vs-2008-2009-single-digit/
What you will also find if you go back and look at the records is that
at that time Reagan was not very popular either. His numbers were low as
was the economy. His popularity went way up. Guess when? When the
economy got going again then he became a popular president. If Obama is
lucky enough to get this mess fixed when things turn around his
popularity will skyrocket. But with 10% unemployment anybody's
popularity is going to suffer.
Hawke
Hawke
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:38:32 -0600, Mitchell Holman
> <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> "The unemployment rate in the U.S. reached 10.8% in
>
>
> Then of course you Leftards voted in the Obmassiah..and unemployment
> rates are now up to 16%
>
> Sucks to be you eh?
>
> Laugh laugh laugh
>
> Gunner
No, it sucks to be you, the old, unemployed, broke, mired in debt,
deadbeat, that lives in Taft. Everybody wants to be just like you, Ha Ha Ha.
Hawke
Hawke
> Mitchell Holman <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net> wrote >
>
>>> when do you suppose he will start?
>>>
>>> Or is the plan to just bitch about FOX until the economy fixes itself
>>> or collapses taking the nation with it?
>>>
>>> Bush went for eight years blaming everything on Clinton. From your
>>> reply, it looks like Obama is going to nothing constructive for his
>>> eight years while blaming everything on Bush.
>>>
>>> I was hoping for "hope". I was hoping for "change". What I got was
>>> the audacity of failure.
>> Indeed. A president who does nothing as unemployment
>> soars to new levels in his first year in office even as
>> a recession he inherited deepens is well described as
>> a failure.
>>
>> Unless, of course, his last name is REAGAN.......
>
> right now Obama is doing the same thing you charge Reagan with?
>
> I guess we know which kind of political hack you are.
>
> Hint for the future - I'm not a defender of either party so save the
> baiting. They are each worse than the other one.
>
> Since you defend Obama and think it's awful to ignore unemployment,
> perhaps you can tell us what Obama is planning to do about it. And
> maybe a hint when he might get around to starting?
What would you have him do that he isn't already doing? He's spending
money to try to stimulate the economy. What more should he be doing? You
need to read some economics. A president can only do so much to make the
economy work. He's doing everything he can right now. If you have some
new ideas that that professional economists have never thought of you
should contact Washington. I'm sure they would be glad to get your insight.
Hawke
miles
> Two wars, a great recession, a near collapse of the banking system, and
> you're bitching that Obama hasn't fixed them all yet.
lol, Obama has pushed it even worse!! Deficit spending in first 100
days dwarfs that of Bush's 8 years or all other presidents combined for
that matter. He campaigned saying he would not raise taxes for 95% of
the workforce. Yet, this current health bill has 17 new taxes and
increases in many more that will hit just about everyone. Obama said he
could stop inflation at 8% if he got his way. He did and unemployment
is now near 10% and rising. His excuse? Obama blames his failures on
Bush. Our own president cops out on his own words. Thats not strength,
thats not leadership. But it is a typical liberal who wont take
responsibility for his own words nor actions.
miles
> What would you have him do that he isn't already doing? He's spending
> money to try to stimulate the economy.
No he isn't. Most of the billions in porkulus money won't be spent for
years to come. Only about 10% has been spent so far. Obama said it
needed to be spent immediately for infrastructure building to put people
to work. Fact is, such projects won't even start planning for some time
to come.
Freestyle
> Winston_Smith wrote:
> > Mitchell Holman <noem...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote >
I'm afraid your logic is lost on the wingnut faithful.
Republicons and their paranoid followers cannot learn from or admit to
the mistakes.
They will simply hate Obama no matter what he does or stands for.
It is the last and sole purpose of the dying GOP.
The utter gaul of course being they have the audacity to blame him for
their mess and whine that he's not cleaning it up fast enough.
ATP*
"Hawke" <davesm...@digitalpath.net> wrote in message
news:hecvk8$q8t$1...@aioe.org...
I think a lot of businesses have recently gotten rid of deadwood that they
should have fired years ago. Tired, cranky know it alls that spend a good
portion of the day bitching instead of working. After they get rid of these
goldbricks, they find production doesn't really suffer.
miles
> They will simply hate Obama no matter what he does or stands for.
Democrats and liberals hated anything Bush was for and they seem to be
for anything Obama tells them is good for them and against anything
Obama tells them to be against. Whats your point?
....the_pc_jellllybean!!.!!!!.
"miles" <no...@nopers.com> wrote in message
news:UxnOm.31088$ZF3....@newsfe13.iad...
> Hawke wrote:
>
>> Two wars, a great recession, a near collapse of the banking system, and
>> you're bitching that Obama hasn't fixed them all yet.
>
> lol, Obama has pushed it even worse!! Deficit spending in first 100 days
> dwarfs that of Bush's 8 years
So if the roles were reversed, you dont think Bush would have to spend money
on fixing the shit he got handed?
Man you are totally brainless.
Freestyle
This is simply illogical and untrue.
Many Democrats are at odds with Obama's policies and are quite vocal
about it.
Republicons and the drooling wingnut faithful oppose for the sake of
opposition with no constructive alternatives to offer.
Their only goal is Obama's failure, even if it means America fails in
the process.
Gray Ghost
news:60d5dffc-a56f-48b0...@o13g2000vbl.googlegroups.com:
> On Nov 22, 9:46�pm, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost)
> wrote:
>> Freestyle <brist...@gmail.com> wrote
>> innews:897e2407-d592-4729...@h10g2000vbm.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Nov 22, 9:27�pm, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost)
>> > wrote:
>> >> Freestyle <brist...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> innews:a21a5d19-f53c-4014...@o10g2000yqa.googlegroups.c
>> >> om:
>>
>> >> > On Nov 22, 3:53�pm, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost)
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> Freestyle <brist...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> >> innews:d1098ec6-6beb-419e...@o10g2000yqa.googlegroup
>> >> >> s.c om:
>>
>> >> >> > On Nov 22, 11:30�am, "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj...@hawaii.rr.com>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> "Freestyle" <brist...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >> >>news:e0d4c161-b04f-41e8...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroup
>> >> >> >>s.c om. ..
>> >> >> >> On Nov 21, 10:01 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> puked:
>>
>> >> >> >> > I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off
>> >> >> >> > of Obama's death care and his collapsing economy.
>>
>> >> >> >> Typical Wingnut dodge.
>> >> >> >> How about addressing the fact that Fox News blatantly lies to
>> >> >> >> you and you accept it because it is what you want to hear.
>>
>> >> >> >> Typical left wing response. �How about doing one simple thing.
>> >> >> >> �Tell us where you think Fox News has told a blatant lie? �Or
>> >> >> >> are you accusing someone else of lying, when it is you who is
>> >> >> >> lying?
>>
>> >> >> > I'll do you one better. With pictures and video so you won't get
>> >> >> > too confused:
>>
>> >> >> > Fox News Caught Using Election Footage For Sarah Palin Book
>> >> >> > Signing
>> >> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-news/fox-news-caught-using-election-
>> >> >> >foo ...
>> >> >> > for-sarah-palin-book-signing/#ixzz0Xc3eUFbC
>> >> >> > aught-using-election-footage-for-sarah-palin-book-signing/
>>
>> >> >> > Recent Falsehoods From Rupert Murdoch
>> >> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/rupert-murdoch/recent-falsehoods-from-ru
>> >> >> >per ... doch/
>>
>> >> >> > Sean Hannity Caught Using 9/12 Video to Inflate Bachmann Rally
>> >> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/sean-hannity/sean-hannity-caught-using-9
>> >> >> >12- ... -to-inflate-bachmann-rally-s/
>>
>> >> >> > Sean Hannity Attempts to Tie Ft. Hood Shooting To Obama
>> >> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/sean-hannity/sean-hannity-attempts-to-ti
>> >> >> >e-f ... d-shooting-to-obama/
>>
>> >> >> > Fox News �Misreporting� on Obama�s Election Night
>> >> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-news/fox-news-misreporting-on-obamas
>> >> >> >-el ... n-night/
>>
>> >> >> > Fox News� Philly ACORN Fabrication
>> >> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-news/fox-news-philly-acorn-fabricati
>> >> >> >on/
>>
>> >> >> > Fox & Friends Uses Outdated Poll to Show Balance
>> >> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-friends/fox-friends-uses-outdated-po
>> >> >> >ll- ... ow-balance/
>>
>> >> >> > Truth-O-Meter on Glenn Beck Falsehoods
>> >> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/glenn-beck/truth-o-meter-on-glenn-beck-f
>> >> >> >als ... s/
>>
>> >> >> > Fox News Falsely Connects Kevin Jennings To NAMBLA
>> >> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/sean-hannity/fox-news-falsely-connects-k
>> >> >> >evi ... nings-to-nambla/
>>
>> >> >> > FoxNation Posts FY09 Budget Deficit Falsehood
>> >> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-nation/foxnation-posts-fy09-budget-d
>> >> >> >efi ... alsehood/
It's nice to see someone so dedicated to thier cause even if it is dishonest.
I am not denying there are incorrect statements like have been made numerous
times on all networks.
I am not agreeing with the premise that the are deliberate lies, though. And
absent an ability to read the minds of the people at Fox or some legal
finding I find it hard to believe you can make such an absolute statement and
defend it absent any supporting material.
Because the idea that only Fox lies and that the other networks don't is
ludicrous on it's face. And the kind of position offered by a full out
fanatic. Or perhaps an operative of the power structure trying to discredit
dissenters.
Freestyle
wrote:
Where is the dishonesty in my statements?
Did I claim that only Fox was capable of malfeasance?
The point was Fox News specifically distorts the truth in earnest.
I provided clear examples of those lies.
You are again simply dodging the claim by pointing at other networks.
Reality is not negotiable.
Fox news at best is then completely incompetent and at worst outright
lies to its audience.
Either way their representation of the "truth" is severely distorted.
> I am not agreeing with the premise that the are deliberate lies, though. And
> absent an ability to read the minds of the people at Fox or some legal
> finding I find it hard to believe you can make such an absolute statement and
> defend it absent any supporting material.
>
Use some common sense if you have any.
What constitutes a deliberate lie in your worldview?
How egregious does the transgression have to be before you call a
spade a spade?
I laid out information showing how Fox lies and asked anyone to refute
it.
If the infomation is so dodgy, then refuting it should be easy.
Nobody can.
> Because the idea that only Fox lies and that the other networks don't is
> ludicrous on it's face. And the kind of position offered by a full out
> fanatic. Or perhaps an operative of the power structure trying to discredit
> dissenters.
>
Again, who brought up other networks? This is yet another dodge to
remove focus from the point.
All things being equal what is more likely?
That Fox News at best distorts the truth or I am complicit in some
vast lefty conspiracy to discredit a noble News organization and
squash "dissent"
You are starting to sound like one of those Tin Hat sheeple conspiracy
theory kooks.
And again, no repudiation of the charges.
bobsyo...@yahoo.com
"ray" <xxxr...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:hebpc...@news7.newsguy.com...
> In article <I49Om.22034$tz6....@newsfe02.iad>,
> "Pepsi...@teranews.com" <bobsyo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 21, 10:01 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> puked:
>> >
>> > I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of Obama's
>> > death care and his collapsing economy.
>> >
>>
>> Typical Wingnut dodge.
>> How about addressing the fact that Fox News blatantly lies to you and
>> you accept it because it is what you want to hear.
>>
>> > hands of a socialist, now does it?
>>
>> expensive and illegal wars), at the hands of a republican.
>
>
> I think you socialists better give up on the "lie" thing given who you
> elected for President. This guy lied more in his first six months of
> office than you can ever lay on GW in 8 years.
Oh?
Has Obama lied us into two wars?
Billions of dollars lost to crooked business allies in no bid contracts?
Thousands of lives?
Corruption and destruction of parts of the Constitution?
Obviously, even basic counting is not among your strong suits.
Gray Ghost
news:1e651499-c746-49d8...@g23g2000vbr.googlegroups.com:
> On Nov 22, 11:50�pm, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost)
> wrote:
>> Freestyle <brist...@gmail.com> wrote
>> innews:60d5dffc-a56f-48b0...@o13g2000vbl.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Nov 22, 9:46�pm, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost)
>> > wrote:
>> >> Freestyle <brist...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> innews:897e2407-d592-4729...@h10g2000vbm.googlegroups.c
>> >> om:
>>
>> >> > On Nov 22, 9:27�pm, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost)
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> Freestyle <brist...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> >> innews:a21a5d19-f53c-4014...@o10g2000yqa.googlegroup
>> >> >> s.c om:
>>
>> >> >> > On Nov 22, 3:53�pm, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray
>> >> >> > Ghost) wrote:
>> >> >> >> Freestyle <brist...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> >> >> innews:d1098ec6-6beb-419e...@o10g2000yqa.googlegr
>> >> >> >> oup s.c om:
>>
>> >> >> >> > On Nov 22, 11:30�am, "Jerry Okamura"
>> >> >> >> > <okamuraj...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> "Freestyle" <brist...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >> >> >>news:e0d4c161-b04f-41e8...@k17g2000yqh.googlegr
>> >> >> >> >>oup s.c om. ..
>> >> >> >> >> On Nov 21, 10:01 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net>
>> >> >> >> >> puked:
>>
>> >> >> >> >> > I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat
>> >> >> >> >> > off of Obama's death care and his collapsing economy.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> Typical Wingnut dodge.
>> >> >> >> >> How about addressing the fact that Fox News blatantly lies
>> >> >> >> >> to you and you accept it because it is what you want to
>> >> >> >> >> hear.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> Typical left wing response. �How about doing one simple
>> >> >> >> >> thing. �Tell us where you think Fox News has told a blatant
>> >> >> >> >> lie? �Or are you accusing someone else of lying, when it is
>> >> >> >> >> you who is lying?
>>
>> >> >> >> > I'll do you one better. With pictures and video so you won't
>> >> >> >> > get too confused:
>>
>> >> >> >> > Fox News Caught Using Election Footage For Sarah Palin Book
>> >> >> >> > Signing
>> >> >> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-news/fox-news-caught-using-electi
>> >> >> >> >on- foo ...
>> >> >> >> > for-sarah-palin-book-signing/#ixzz0Xc3eUFbC
>> >> >> >> > aught-using-election-footage-for-sarah-palin-book-signing/
>>
>> >> >> >> > Recent Falsehoods From Rupert Murdoch
>> >> >> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/rupert-murdoch/recent-falsehoods-from
>> >> >> >> >-ru per ... doch/
>>
>> >> >> >> > Sean Hannity Caught Using 9/12 Video to Inflate Bachmann
>> >> >> >> > Rally
>> >> >> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/sean-hannity/sean-hannity-caught-usin
>> >> >> >> >g-9 12- ... -to-inflate-bachmann-rally-s/
>>
>> >> >> >> > Sean Hannity Attempts to Tie Ft. Hood Shooting To Obama
>> >> >> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/sean-hannity/sean-hannity-attempts-to
>> >> >> >> >-ti e-f ... d-shooting-to-obama/
>>
>> >> >> >> > Fox News �Misreporting� on Obama�s Election Night
>> >> >> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-news/fox-news-misreporting-on-oba
>> >> >> >> >mas -el ... n-night/
>>
>> >> >> >> > Fox News� Philly ACORN Fabrication
>> >> >> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-news/fox-news-philly-acorn-fabric
>> >> >> >> >ati on/
>>
>> >> >> >> > Fox & Friends Uses Outdated Poll to Show Balance
>> >> >> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-friends/fox-friends-uses-outdated
>> >> >> >> >-po ll- ... ow-balance/
>>
>> >> >> >> > Truth-O-Meter on Glenn Beck Falsehoods
>> >> >> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/glenn-beck/truth-o-meter-on-glenn-bec
>> >> >> >> >k-f als ... s/
>>
>> >> >> >> > Fox News Falsely Connects Kevin Jennings To NAMBLA
>> >> >> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/sean-hannity/fox-news-falsely-connect
>> >> >> >> >s-k evi ... nings-to-nambla/
>>
>> >> >> >> > FoxNation Posts FY09 Budget Deficit Falsehood
>> >> >> >> >http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-nation/foxnation-posts-fy09-budge
>> >> >> >> >t-d efi ... alsehood/
Let's test your version of the word lie.
Did Dan Rather lie about Bush?
Did Bill clinton lie when he said "I did not have sex with that women"?
Did Obama lie when he said he would have the most transparent administration
ever?
Gray Ghost
news:1igjg55ovmisv9ao6...@4ax.com:
> Mitchell Holman <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net> wrote >
>
>>> Now then. What's Obama planning to do with the mess he inherited and
>>> when do you suppose he will start?
>>>
>>> Or is the plan to just bitch about FOX until the economy fixes itself
>>> or collapses taking the nation with it?
>>>
>>> Bush went for eight years blaming everything on Clinton. From your
>>> reply, it looks like Obama is going to nothing constructive for his
>>> eight years while blaming everything on Bush.
>>>
>>> I was hoping for "hope". I was hoping for "change". What I got was
>>> the audacity of failure.
>>
>> Indeed. A president who does nothing as unemployment
>>soars to new levels in his first year in office even as
>>a recession he inherited deepens is well described as
>>a failure.
>>
>> Unless, of course, his last name is REAGAN.......
>
> Interesting. It's wrong when Reagan did it, but it's just fine that
> right now Obama is doing the same thing you charge Reagan with?
>
> I guess we know which kind of political hack you are.
>
> Hint for the future - I'm not a defender of either party so save the
> baiting. They are each worse than the other one.
>
> Since you defend Obama and think it's awful to ignore unemployment,
> perhaps you can tell us what Obama is planning to do about it. And
> maybe a hint when he might get around to starting?
Oh, oh, i know the anmswer to that one. He's gonna hold an unemployment
summit. After he get's back from bowing to all of Asia and wrecking the
financial future of this country.
>
>>"The unemployment rate in the U.S. reached 10.8% in
>>December 1982 � higher than at any time in post-war era.
>>Job cutbacks were particularly severe in housing, steel
>>and automobiles. By September 1982, the jobless rate
>>reached 10.8%. Twelve million people were unemployed,
>>an increase of 4.2 million people since July 1981.
>>Unemployment rates for every major group reached post-
>>war highs, with men age 20 and over particularly hard hit."
>>
>><http://investment-blog.net/us-double-digits-unemployment-rate-of-1980-198
>>1-vs-2008-2009-single-digit/>
>
>
--
Freestyle
wrote:
Yes, he clearly distorted the truth.
This does not change the fact that Dubya was clearly a privleged
chickenhaw.
> Did Bill clinton lie when he said "I did not have sex with that women"?
He used the same dodge Fox News uses to rationalize their Lies.
Not exactly lying, but not quite the truth either.
(oops, we showed the wrong video again, bad production team!)
> Did Obama lie when he said he would have the most transparent administration
> ever?
>
Nope. But you will say he did anyway.
So I will now assume that since you consider these "lies" bad, you
will agree that Fox News lies are equally wrong, right?
My turn.
What would you consider the more egregious lie?
WMD and thousands of Dead Americans or a blowjob in the Oval?
I am sure you will rationalize it however you need to, but the reality
will not change.
Oh, and I still contend that Fox News lies like a rug.
Does anyone have the balls to try and tell me how I am wrong?
Don't bother. You can't.
Gray Ghost
eab419...@f20g2000vbl.googlegroups.com:
>
> My turn.
> What would you consider the more egregious lie?
> WMD and thousands of Dead Americans or a blowjob in the Oval?
>
Again, i don't buy the premise. There were WMDs. Some were found and now
clearly, some were shipped to Syria.
Will there be anything else?
Gray Ghost
eab419...@f20g2000vbl.googlegroups.com:
>> Did Dan Rather lie about Bush?
>
> Yes, he clearly distorted the truth.
> This does not change the fact that Dubya was clearly a privleged
> chickenhaw.
You just can't help yourself, can you? What Bush dod has nothing to do with
what Rather did. Rather lied using obviously forged documents.
So let me ask you: How many Mach Plus, nuclear capable interceptors are you
rated for and how many hours have you done? There is not a damn thing
dishonorable about serving in the Air National Guard. Bush clearly made more
of a commitment to service the clinton, who LIED to his draft board and then
dissappeared overseas.
So while you are disparaging GWB for having put the time in and dedicating
himself to something I would have killed to do Bill Clinton was draft evading
to foreign countries.
Lesse, draft evasion or Air National Guard, learning to fly jet interceptors.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm?
Which is why you troglodytes can never, ever be taken seriosuly.
Cliff
>Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:01:26 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
>>> hands of a socialist, now does it?
>>
>>No, it doesn't. Are we to make a choice between lies and the U.S.S.R.?
>>Is it right to permit a federal licensee to lie using the public airwaves
>>because socialism is bad?
>>
>>I fail to grok the relationship. There will always be tragedies and bad
>>players. Why should that prevent eradicating lesser evils? Do I ignore
>>the tape worms because I have a hernia?
>>
>>Even if your assertion were true it does not, in any way, justify turning
>>a blind eye to the lies, deceit, propaganda, and misdirections of Fox
>>"News." I don't understand why you'd put your reputation in the same
>>basket as Fox "News."
>
>You never listened to Air America I assume. Same lies, same public
>air waves. Different side of the aisle.
What "lies" do you have in mind?
BTW, Found those "WMDs" yet?
--
Cliff
Cliff
>>No, Maddow is an entertainer
>>
>>Although I don't watch entertainers for news---what few
>>minutes I have is interesting in that she debunks the
>>lies of Faux.
>
>What's a Maddow and how does he/she/it relate to what we were talking
>about?
<Snicker>
YOU made claims about Air America but clearly
know nothing at all about it.
Hence you lied like a winger.
Cliff
>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:01:26 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net> wrote:
>
>>>I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of Obama's
>>>death care
>>
>> The current plans does death quite nicely.
>> Get sick, lose care, die.
>
>ObamaCare
> Get sick,
> flunky out holds hand and tells you how nice it is to die,
> die.
PLEASE find out what it's about !!!
You need not always look the fool.
>>>and his collapsing economy.
>
>> The bushco economy.
>
>True. What's Obama planning to do to fix it and when do you suppose
>he will start?
Took the rethugs about 10 years & bushco about 8 to do a real
good job.
NOW you expect Obama to find & wave a magic wand & just make
their years of hard work vanish?
>>>Bogus file footage hardly compares with the death of a nation at the
>>>hands of a socialist, now does it?
>>
>> Wingers lie.
>> Faux keeps getting caught at it.'
>
>Leftist Wingers keep posting red herrings to take the heat off Obama's
>ongoing failures. The audacity of failure. I had "hoped" for better.
>It's Bush all over again. Not a bit of difference.
BS.
OTOH We could have elected a progressive rather than a centrist ...
but that was not one of the final choices.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayoral_administration_of_Dennis_Kucinich
Not that I liked everything in his platform ....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Kucinich
At least we now have a Statesman as well as a smart
person.
Stupidity can only take wingers & rethugs so far ....
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>s...@above.com wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:37:44 -0700, Winston_Smith
>><not_...@bogus.net> wrote:
>>
>>>ObamaCare
>>> Get sick,
>>> flunky out holds hand and tells you how nice it is to die,
>>> die.
>>
>>That and 10 other wet-dreams are still only that.
>
>You call being left to die with no treatment a wet dream?
No, it's rethug & Palin's policy.
>You must be
>one of the leftist winger boys.
Like medical care for all .....
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>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:16:00 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net> wrote:
>>>Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:01:26 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I see you are still doing what you can to keep the heat off of Obama's
>>>>> death care . . .
>>>>
>>>>What do you feel wrong with counseling the elderly reaching end of life?
>>>
>>>It does have the virtue of keeping ObamaCare on budget.
>>
>> Not at all part of any issue.
>> You clearly have no idea at all what any of this is about but chose to remain
>>ignorant & get fed winger lies.
>
>It's precisely the Leftist Wingers lies I'm trying to rebut.
Why do you think winger lies & ignorance would do that?
>I notice
>you add no facts, no line of argument - just call names.
You should have found out what it's about in the first place.
Instead you bought winger lies.
No research or thinking needed.
>That's the
>typical reply of a Leftist Winger in the corner.
Such as posting a link from whence you might learn something?
>>http://www.chicagodefender.com/article-6058-study-finds-end-of-life-counseling-improves-mood.html
>
>Chicago Defender. Humm. A home town apologist Obama rag?
Use your own quick search.
>I freely accept that counseling can have value. The issue is using it
>as the sole treatment in lieu of treatment.
Who fed you that lie? WHY DID YOU SUCK IT DOWN?
>The socialist viewpoint
>is that the sick and the old are burdens on society and should be
>disposed of before they eat too much food.
Such as cutting off their insurance .... the rethug way ...
>Without saying it that
>bluntly, Obama has made comments that indicate he agrees with that.
BS.
HOWEVER the patient should have some rights too.
>Looking at the proposed ObamaCare and the current reductions of
>Medicare, it's pretty clear that's where we will go if he has his way.
The "reductions" (added by CONGRESS to placate rethugs) just
slows the rate of future growth a bit I gather.
Easily paid for by cutting out the fraud I expect. So the actual
patients get more.
>Military tactics are often to wound rather than kill because that puts
>a burden on the other side to protect and heal their fallen.
>Socialists let them lay on the field of battle. Perhaps the
>occasional soft hearted socialist will spend a bullet to put them out
>of their misery.
You don't seem to have a clue what or who socialists are.
>That's not the American way. We spend the effort
>to bring them back to their lives. The Obama way is to let the sick
>and old lie where they fall and send around the street sweepers.
You lie like a winger.
>Read "Welcome to the Monkey House" by Kurt Vonnegut if you can find
>it. That's our future.
I met Vonnegut years ago.
>=======
>
>Cover 50 million more people, give them all better care than they have
>now, and it will cost less in total?
You were just claiming less care.
But NOW you want them to die, right?
>Nonsense. When has a government
>program - either party - ever did what it promised; when has it ever
>cost less than projected? When has it ever done both? It's a
>fantasy.
>
>ObamaCare is a recipe for perpetually increasing deficits
>http://alligatorfarm.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/healthcare-deficit.jpg?w=256&h=300
>notice the assumption is ever increasing revenues - but revenue has
>going down and will for years to come.
>
>Organizational Chart of the House Democrats Health Plan
>http://alligatorfarm.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/obama-care1.jpg?w=300&h=231
You are a born sucker for winger BS & lies.
The rethug plan:
http://blog.healthcareforamericanow.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/rhealthplan.jpg
http://www.dccc.org/page/-/images/secret-plan.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1q62jeMTLV0/SmMtz_aaWwI/AAAAAAAABc0/6KFU_7BUKQA/s400/RepublicanHealthPlan.jpg
http://mariopiperni.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/gop-healthcareelephant.jpg
http://tarhearted.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54ee0f61288340120a5ad600a970b-800wi
http://static.open.salon.com/files/steve_greenberg_the_republican_health_plan1254414255.jpg
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>s...@above.com wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:52:11 -0700, Winston_Smith
>><not_...@bogus.net> wrote:
>>
>>>It's precisely the Leftist Wingers lies I'm trying to rebut.
>>
>>Rebutting by lying is acceptable to you?
>>
>>Hmmm.
>
>Your spin. I take it you are one of the Leftist Winger boys.
IOW Not fond of les.
We understand.
Truth is just so confusing ... Rush, Faux & Palin
cannot make it anything they want ..
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