Current rate of CO2 rise is unprecedented in the recent history
Harry Hope
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16226
November 28, 2009
Climate Change: The current rate of CO2 rise is unprecedented in the
recent history of the Earth
by Dr. Andrew Glikson
�We are simply talking about the very life support system of this
planet�. Professor Joachim Schellnhuber, Director, Potsdam Institute
of Climate Impact, and chief climate science advisor of the German
Government
�The pace and scale of climate change may now be outstripping even the
most sobering previous predictions� United Nations Environment
Programme (UNEP), Intergovernmental Panel of Climate Change (IPCC).
�The time for hesitation is over� United Nations Secretary-General,
Ban Ki-moon.
"The clock is ticking for the planet� Kevin Rudd
With the exception of rapid atmospheric changes triggered by major
volcanic events, asteroid impacts and methane release, which led to
the great mass extinction of species [1], the current rate of CO2 rise
(2005-08: 1.66-2.55 ppm/year) is unprecedented in the recent history
of the Earth, driving polar ice melt and sea level rise rates in
excess of IPCC projections.
Warming of large parts of the Arctic and Antarctic circles by 3-4oC
during 1975-2009 (~0.09�0.12 degrees C/year) triggers fast feedback
effects from ice melt, albedo loss and open water infrared absorption,
and from the carbon cycle.
Estimates of future sea level rise derived from 40 years records
(1.6-3.7 mm/year), glacier flow rates and ice shelf collapse dynamics,
and yet little-quantified positive feedbacks, render exponential to
non-linear sea level rise on the scale of tens of meters over the next
few centuries possible.
The rise in the oceans heat content (1950-2004: 16.10^22 Joules),
lowered pH (8.2 - 8.1), and enhancement of the CO3(-2) to HCO3(-)
transition, threatens algae, calcifying plankton and reef habitats
from shallow habitats to abyssal depths [2].
The best outcomes of the looming Copenhagen climate summit, 25 percent
carbon emission reduction relative to 1990 levels, would be unable to
arrest the rise of mean global temperatures over 2 degrees Celsius
relative to pre-industrial levels.
The rise in CO2 emissions by 41% since 1990 [3] and continuing land
clearing go counter to the urgently required measures at mitigation,
massive reforestation, revegetation, application of biochar and
chemical draw-down of atmospheric CO2.
While governments vie to vested interests and economists calculate the
price of the Earth, a denial syndrome underpinned by an ideology of
human mastery over nature is enhanced by a massive disinformation
campaign by contrarians who ignore the basic laws of physics and
chemistry and falsify climate data.
Of all the physical and chemical indicators of climate change the rate
of sea level rise is the most sensitive parameter, reflecting both
thermal expansion of upper layers of the oceans and ice sheet collapse
rates.
The rise of sea level rates from below 1 mm/year about 1880, to about
over 3.7 mm/year by 2008 (Figures 1, 2) [4-8] constitutes the
definitive warning for H. �Sapiens�.
In Greenland mass ice loss increased from 137 billion ton (GtI)
ice/year in 2002�2003 to 286 GtI/year in 2007�2009 [6].
In Antarctica ice mass loss increased from 104 GtI/year in 2002�2006
to 246 GtI/year in 2006�2009 [6].
According to Kerr (2009) �the latest analysis of the most
comprehensive, essentially continuous, monitoring of the ice sheets
shows that the losses have not eased in the past few years.� [7, 8].
Recent reports highlight major underestimates by IPCC reports on which
most economic and government assessments since 2001, including the
Stern and Garnaut reports, have been based [9-12].
Economic models attempt correlations between target atmospheric CO2
stabilization levels (cf. 450, 550, 650 ppm) ([10] Fig SPM-6) and
economic costs of mitigation.
For example, for a range of emission scenarios, stabilization of CO2
at 450 ppm by 2050 was purported to cost 3-4% of GDP, while
stabilization at 750 ppm was supposed to cost less than 1% GDP by 2050
([10] Fig. SPM-9).
Early IPCC reports failed to predict the rapid loss of Arctic Sea,
Greenland and west Antarctica ice over the last 5 years or so.
In projecting sea level rises the IPCC-2007 admits, as a footnote:
�Models used to date do not include uncertainties in climate-carbon
cycle feedback nor do they include the full effects of changes in ice
sheet flow, because a basis in published literature is lacking.� and
�Model-based range excluding future rapid dynamical changes in ice
flow�.
These reports contain sea level rise projections corresponding to
various emission scenarios and CO2 stabilization levels.
The IPCC-2001 report projects sea level rise to up to about 85 cm by
2100.
The IPCC-2007 report correlates estimates in the range of 26-59 cm
with mean global temperature rise scenario of 2.4-6.4oC by 2100.
More recent sea level rise assessments, which take the Greenland
glaciers and west Antarctic ice shelf collapse into account, project
0.8 � 2.0 metres [13] and 5 meters rise by 2100 [14].
On the century scale sea levels consistent with those of the Pliocene
(3 million years ago) may be reached.
At that stage mean global temperatures by 2 � 3 degrees C led to
25+/-12 meters sea level rise (Figure 3).
The cumulative nature of CO2 emissions results in committed high mean
global temperatures on time scales of centuries to millennia [15].
The concept of �stabilization� of atmospheric CO2 and temperature
(IPCC [10-12], Wigley et al. 2007 [16]), adopted in reports by the
Global Carbon Project, Garnaut Review and other, has little foundation
in paleoclimate records.
Amplification of CO2 and temperature rise by carbon cycle feedbacks
and ice melt albedo flip feedbacks would overshoot any arbitrary
ceilings inferred in the above reports.
Studies of Greenland and Antarctic ice cores indicate dominance of
abrupt climate changes, suggesting high sensitivity of atmospheric
states to radiative forcing and feedback effects [17].
The current rate of CO2 rise of about 2 ppm/year exceeds that of the
Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum � a 55 million years-old greenhouse
event triggering the release of some 2000 billion tons of Carbon as
methane over a period estimated at about 1000 years, which raised
atmospheric CO2 levels by about 400 ppm at a rate of about 0.4
ppm/year, resulting in temperature rise of several degrees Celsius
[18].
The best outcome of the forthcoming UN Copenhagen meeting of 25%
reduction of emissions relative to 1990, now in doubt, can not avert
extreme climate disruption and rising sea levels [19, 20].
The implications to the proposed Australian CPRS are clear (Figure 4).
With an atmospheric CO2-e (a value which includes the effects of
methane) at about 460 ppm [21], climate conditions are a mere 40 ppm
from the CO2~500 ppm upper stability limit of the Antarctic ice sheet
[20].
Due to the cumulative nature of atmospheric CO2, intersection of this
critical threshold and a rise by 2 degrees C relative to
pre-industrial time threaten the onset of abrupt tipping points in the
climate system, taking climate change out of human control.
Only urgent measures at global mitigation involving carbon emission
cuts near-80 percent, rapid application of clean renewable energy
utilities, cessation of land clearing, extensive reforestation, global
biochar application and fast track development of chemical CO2
down-draw technologies aimed at lowering atmospheric CO2 levels to
below 350 ppm [14], can make the difference to the young and future
generations.
Notes
[1] Keller, G. 2005. Impacts, volcanism and mass extinction: random
coincidence or cause and effect? Australian Journal of Earth Sciences
52, 725 � 757; Glikson, A. Y. 2005. Asteroid/comet impact clusters,
flood basalts and mass extinctions: significance of isotopic age
overlaps. Earth and Planetary Science Letters 236, 933 � 937; Glikson,
A.Y. 2009. Mass Extinction of Species: The Role of External Forcing.
Journal of Cosmology, 2009, 2, 230-234.
[2] Smith K.L. et al. 2009. Climate, carbon cycling, and deep-ocean
ecosystems. PNAS, 106, 46, 19211�19218
[3]
http://www.gmagazine.com.au/news/1728/latest-global-emissions-figures
[4] Rahmstorf and Vermeer, 2009. Sea level rise in a 4 degree world.
http://www.eci.ox.ac.uk/4degrees/programme.php
[5] Gusmao, D.G. et al., 2009. Visualising sea-level rise projections
for IPCC SRES simulations = 4�C
http://www.eci.ox.ac.uk/4degrees/programme.php
[6] Velicogna, 2009. Increasing rates of ice mass loss from the
Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets revealed by GRACE, Geophys. Res.
Lett., 36, L19503, doi:10.1029/2009GL040222.
[7] Richard A. Kerr, 2009. Both of the World's Ice Sheets May Be
Shrinking Faster and Faster. Science 9, Vol. 326, 5950, p. 217, DOI:
10.1126/science.326_217a)
[8] Richard A. Kerr, 13 November, 2009. Amid Worrisome Signs of
Warming, 'Climate Fatigue' Sets In Science 13 November 2009: Vol. 326.
no. 5955, pp. 926 � 928 DOI: 10.1126/ science.326.5955.926.
[10] http://www1.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/assessments-reports.htm
[11] http://www1.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/tar/vol4/english/pdf/spm.pdf;
[12] http://www1.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg1/ar4-wg1-spm.pdf
[13] Pfeffer, W.T. et al. 2008. Kinematic Constraints on Glacier
Contributions to 21st-Century Sea-Level Rise. Science 35, 321,
1340-1343.
www.sciencemag.org;
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/09/on-straw-men-and-greenland-tad-pfeffer-responds/
[14] Hansen et al., 2008. Target CO2: Where should humanity aim?
http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/2008/TargetCO2_20080407.pdf;
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/04/target-co2/
[15] Eby, M., et al. 2009. Lifetime of Anthropogenic Climate Change:
Millennial Time Scales of Potential CO2 and Surface Temperature
Perturbations. Journal of Climate 22, 2501-2511.
[16] Wigley, T. M. L. et al., 2007. Overshoot pathways to CO2
stabilization in a multi-gas context. Human-induced Climate Change: An
Interdisciplinary Assessment, ed. Schlesinger et al., Cambridge
University Press.
[17] Steffensen et al., 2008. High-resolution Greenland ice core data
show abrupt climate change happens in few years. Science Express,
19.6.2008;
[18] Zachos et al., 2001. Trends, rhythms, and aberrations in global
climate 65 Ma to present. Science 292, 686�693.
[19]
http://climatechange.gov.au/en/publications/coastline/climate-change-risks-to-australias-coasts.aspx
[20] http://christine-milne.greensmps.org.au/taxonomy/term/294/all
[21] Copenhagen Synthesis Report.
http://climatecongress.ku.dk/pdf/synthesisreport
Figure 1. Sea level change 1970-2008
http://www.anu.edu.au/climatechange/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/climate-change-faster-change-and-more-serious-risks-final.pdf
Figure 2. Sea level change rates (after Vermeer and Rahmstorf, 2009).
http://www.eci.ox.ac.uk/4degrees/programme.php
Figure 3. Long term sea level global temperature relations (Rahmstorf,
2005) Rahmstorf, 2005. Climate Change Fact Sheet Potsdam Institute for
Climate Impact Research (www.pik-potsdam.de/~stefan)
Figure 4. The 1990-2009 Australian CO2-e emissions trend, including
projected decreases of 5, 15 and 25 percent between 2010-2020 relative
to 2000 levels (Australian Government White Paper). Arrows plotted by
the author (AYG) denote continuing CO2 rise trajectories related to
CO2 emissions, taking no account of carbon cycle feedback effects,
tracking toward the 500 ppm CO2-e level which marks the approximate
upper stability limit of the Antarctic ice sheet [18].
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Harry
1-20-2013
> http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16226
>
> November 28, 2009
>
> Climate Change: The current rate of CO2 rise is unprecedented in the
> recent history of the Earth
>
> by Dr. Andrew Glikson
Is this *real* info or more bogus, silly made up "facts" like those that
brought down the global warming, er - uh, climate change movement this
past week?
Sorry, not sure which ones can or cannot be believed anymore - hence the
GW/CC stuff is totally meaningless now.
The only remaining question: Does Al Gore get to keep his Nobel Prize?
:^D LOL!!!
Buerste
"1-20-2013" <0120...@obamas-lastday.com> wrote in message
news:7IydnZokE8P4ZIzW...@rcn.net...
The Nobel Committee changed the category to "Best Fiction".
Freestyle
Yep, that's right kids.
One taken out of context email dubiously stolen and released right
before Copenhagen un-does decades of research.
So what about all those retreating glaciers and melting polar caps?
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&sa=1&q=glacier+retreat&aq=f&oq=&aqi=&start=0
Well, don't believe your own eyes whatever you do...
Just blindly accept what was heard on Fox because they hate Obama too
so they must be right.
Besides, it's easier that way then having to actually back up
assertions of data tampering with facts.
So what if global warming is real? Jesus will fix it, so don't worry
about it.
1-20-2013
> On Nov 28, 11:31 pm, 1-20-2013 <01202...@obamas-lastday.com> wrote:
>> Harry Hope wrote:
>>> http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16226
>>> November 28, 2009
>>> Climate Change: The current rate of CO2 rise is unprecedented in the
>>> recent history of the Earth
>>> by Dr. Andrew Glikson
>> Is this *real* info or more bogus, silly made up "facts" like those that
>> brought down the global warming, er - uh, climate change movement this
>> past week?
>>
>> Sorry, not sure which ones can or cannot be believed anymore - hence the
>> GW/CC stuff is totally meaningless now.
>>
>> The only remaining question: Does Al Gore get to keep his Nobel Prize?
>> :^D LOL!!!
>
> Yep, that's right kids.
>
> One taken out of context email dubiously stolen and released right
> before Copenhagen un-does decades of research.
One email?????? LOL!!!! Try *thousands* of incriminating emails.
Decades of research...or decades of cooking the numbers to fit the GW/CC
agenda?
How could anyone possibly trust anything any of the GW/CC "scientists"
say now that it's been shown that at least *some* numbers were
manufactured or hid???
>
> So what about all those retreating glaciers and melting polar caps?
>
> http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&sa=1&q=glacier+retreat&aq=f&oq=&aqi=&start=0
Look, obviously throughout the ages natural climate change has occurred.
Your photos of glaciers retreating would be expected in the course of
the Earth's history due to expected, normal, and natural climate change.
Clearly, reducing pollution and attempting to make the planet and the
atmosphere cleaner are good things.
But attempting to raise taxes on EVERYTHING via Obama's Cap and Tax bill
is just plain sleazy - especially now with the cooked numbers and graphs.
> http://images.google.com/images?ndsp=21&hl=en&safe=off&um=1&q=polar+ice+caps+melting&revid=1553936676&ei=sfsRS_7VDMm0tgfF8ZHrCg&sa=X&oi=revisions_inline&resnum=0&ct=broad-revision&cd=1&start=0
>
> Well, don't believe your own eyes whatever you do...
Pictures are nice. We need uncooked numbers to even *consider* that
GW/CC is real.
>
> Just blindly accept what was heard on Fox because they hate Obama too
> so they must be right.
Climategate is a UK thing. Not sure how Obama plays into this....well,
except that he's going to Copenhagen to pledge to get his Cap and Tax
bill passes so all bad American's will pay the penalty for their carbon
"footprint" :^D
> Besides, it's easier that way then having to actually back up
> assertions of data tampering with facts.
The GW scientists have confirmed the released emails containing the
cooked numbers are real.
One cooked number and the entire GW/CC scam is sunk.
>
> So what if global warming is real?
Natural climate change is real. It has dramatically affected the Earth
many times over the eons. The Earth and the living beings on the planet
adapted accordingly. And will do so again. No need to tax the bejesus
out of everyone simply to line Al Gore's pockets which are already
overflowing with cash.
Man-made GW/CC isn't real - as the cooked data indicates.
> Jesus will fix it, so don't worry
> about it.
Indeed, Jesus/God/Mother Nature/etc will do what it's always done as the
Earth continues it's journey through space.
However, your Messiah will still try to raise our taxes with the Cap and
Tax debacle ;^D
ROTFFLMMFAO!!!!!!!!
Freestyle
>
> > Yep, that's right kids.
>
> > One taken out of context email dubiously stolen and released right
> > before Copenhagen un-does decades of research.
>
> One email?????? LOL!!!! Try *thousands* of incriminating emails.
>
Where?
I am to trust the future of the planet on dubiously stolen emails
cherrypicked and possible altered by the perps?
> Decades of research...or decades of cooking the numbers to fit the GW/CC
> agenda?
>
> How could anyone possibly trust anything any of the GW/CC "scientists"
> say now that it's been shown that at least *some* numbers were
> manufactured or hid???
>
You have no information to back up your wild assertions.
This is all about political gamesmanship for the wingnuts like
yourself.
You have ZERO proof of any tampering or you would have produced it by
now.
You are simply jumping on a non-existent bandwagon and cluelessly
putting the environment at risk to score political points.
Disgusting.
>
>
> > So what about all those retreating glaciers and melting polar caps?
>
> >http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&sa=1&q=glacier+re...
>
> Look, obviously throughout the ages natural climate change has occurred.
> Your photos of glaciers retreating would be expected in the course of
> the Earth's history due to expected, normal, and natural climate change.
>
> Clearly, reducing pollution and attempting to make the planet and the
> atmosphere cleaner are good things.
>
> But attempting to raise taxes on EVERYTHING via Obama's Cap and Tax bill
> is just plain sleazy - especially now with the cooked numbers and graphs.
>
Changing from a dirty fossil fuel based system will cost money and
take time.
Nobody ever said otherwise and this is not new news.
You seem content with the current system that leaves America at the
mercy of Arab Oil Barons.
Even if the books were "cooked", how much are you willing to pay for
the security of America then?
Why do you defend OPEC and the Arab Trillionaires that are bleeding us
dry and giving our money to the terrorists who want to kill us?
> >http://images.google.com/images?ndsp=21&hl=en&safe=off&um=1&q=polar+i...
>
> > Well, don't believe your own eyes whatever you do...
>
> Pictures are nice. We need uncooked numbers to even *consider* that
> GW/CC is real.
>
A picture is worth a million supposedly "cooked" emails.
>
>
> > Just blindly accept what was heard on Fox because they hate Obama too
> > so they must be right.
>
> Climategate is a UK thing. Not sure how Obama plays into this....well,
> except that he's going to Copenhagen to pledge to get his Cap and Tax
> bill passes so all bad American's will pay the penalty for their carbon
> "footprint" :^D
>
The climate is a WORLD thing.
Things need to be paid for.
You idiots don't mind spending a trillion in Iraq but getting off
foreign oil and cleaning the environment makes you insane.
Ridiculous.
> > Besides, it's easier that way then having to actually back up
> > assertions of data tampering with facts.
>
> The GW scientists have confirmed the released emails containing the
> cooked numbers are real.
>
> One cooked number and the entire GW/CC scam is sunk.
>
Horseshit. There is decades of research by thousands of scientists.
It is stupid and irresponsible to claim that.
>
>
> > So what if global warming is real?
>
> Natural climate change is real. It has dramatically affected the Earth
> many times over the eons. The Earth and the living beings on the planet
> adapted accordingly. And will do so again. No need to tax the bejesus
> out of everyone simply to line Al Gore's pockets which are already
> overflowing with cash.
>
> Man-made GW/CC isn't real - as the cooked data indicates.
>
Al Gore gave away every cent from the film and books.
This has been documented ad nauseum.
Humans are dumping 30 Gigatons of Carbon unnaturally into the
ecosystem.
Show me research that shows that has no effect on the natural adaption
of the planet.
You can't because it DOES NOT EXIST.
You claim is stupid, erroneous, unfounded and DANGEROUS.
> > Jesus will fix it, so don't worry
> > about it.
>
> Indeed, Jesus/God/Mother Nature/etc will do what it's always done as the
> Earth continues it's journey through space.
>
You know what she does? She kills off species that cannot adapt.
Like Republicons.
> However, your Messiah will still try to raise our taxes with the Cap and
> Tax debacle ;^D
>
> ROTFFLMMFAO!!!!!!!!
Yup, and I hope he succeeds for your sake and mine.
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On Nov 28, 7:44 pm, Harry Hopeless <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16226
>
> November 28, 2009
> >
> by Dr. Andrew Glikson
> Climate Change: The current rate of CO2 rise is unprecedented in the
> recent history of the Earth
•• Totally false!!
In mid 19th century several periods recorded
levels exceeding current levels. A few above
400 ppm
> “We are simply talking about the very life support system of this
> planet”. Professor Joachim Schellnhuber, Director, Potsdam Institute
> of Climate Impact, and chief climate science advisor of the German
> Government
•• Another Josef Goebbels
> “The pace and scale of climate change may now be outstripping even the
> most sobering previous predictions” United Nations Environment
> Programme (UNEP), Intergovernmental Panel of Climate Change (IPCC).
•• The trash (propaganda) is piling frantically to astronomic levels
in preparation for Copenhagen.
— —
| In real science the burden of proof is always
| on the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far
| neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one
| iota of valid data for global warming nor have
| they provided data that climate change is being
| effected by commerce and industry, and not by
| natural phenomena
1-20-2013
> On Nov 29, 1:24 am, 1-20-2013 <01202...@obamas-lastday.com> wrote:
>>> Yep, that's right kids.
>>> One taken out of context email dubiously stolen and released right
>>> before Copenhagen un-does decades of research.
>> One email?????? LOL!!!! Try *thousands* of incriminating emails.
>>
>
> Where?
Here. I'll make it easier for you so you don't have to go through all
that downloading bullsh* that previous posters have provided
instructions for:
http://www.eastangliaemails.com/index.php
> I am to trust the future of the planet on dubiously stolen emails
> cherrypicked and possible altered by the perps?
Your choice. The emails have been verified as legit by the authors of
those emails themselves.
>
>> Decades of research...or decades of cooking the numbers to fit the GW/CC
>> agenda?
>>
>> How could anyone possibly trust anything any of the GW/CC "scientists"
>> say now that it's been shown that at least *some* numbers were
>> manufactured or hid???
>>
>
> You have no information to back up your wild assertions.
Take a look through the link I provided to you above. Lots of
information there which is very damaging to the GW/CC religion.
> This is all about political gamesmanship for the wingnuts like
> yourself.
> You have ZERO proof of any tampering or you would have produced it by
> now.
The above link has been available for several days. Read it...or keep
your head in the sand. Either way - the numbers "proving" that GW/CC are
real have been manipulated.
>
> You are simply jumping on a non-existent bandwagon and cluelessly
> putting the environment at risk to score political points.
Wait until Monday morning when this "bandwagon" turns into a massive
avalanche of previously unseen proportions as your
"global warming" dream becomes exposed as a total joke!
>
> Disgusting.
Obama's Cap and Tax? Agreed!
>
>>
>>> So what about all those retreating glaciers and melting polar caps?
>>> http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&sa=1&q=glacier+re...
>> Look, obviously throughout the ages natural climate change has occurred.
>> Your photos of glaciers retreating would be expected in the course of
>> the Earth's history due to expected, normal, and natural climate change.
>>
>> Clearly, reducing pollution and attempting to make the planet and the
>> atmosphere cleaner are good things.
>>
>> But attempting to raise taxes on EVERYTHING via Obama's Cap and Tax bill
>> is just plain sleazy - especially now with the cooked numbers and graphs.
>>
>
> Changing from a dirty fossil fuel based system will cost money and
> take time.
> Nobody ever said otherwise and this is not new news.
Sounds good. But to raise taxes on virtually *everything* - as Obama's
Cap and Tax fiasco will do - is just negligence....especially now with
the cooked GW/CC numbers being revealed.
>
> You seem content with the current system that leaves America at the
> mercy of Arab Oil Barons.
Nuclear is a great option. But you liberal tree huggers wouldn't even
consider that.
>
> Even if the books were "cooked", how much are you willing to pay for
> the security of America then?
The books are clearly "cooked". I will pay unlimited amounts of dollars
to supply the US military. But I will pay zero to support your Messiah's
Cap and Tax wet dream.
>
> Why do you defend OPEC and the Arab Trillionaires that are bleeding us
> dry and giving our money to the terrorists who want to kill us?
Again, nuclear. But you liberal environmentalist whack-jobs forbid it.
>
>>> http://images.google.com/images?ndsp=21&hl=en&safe=off&um=1&q=polar+i...
>>> Well, don't believe your own eyes whatever you do...
>> Pictures are nice. We need uncooked numbers to even *consider* that
>> GW/CC is real.
>>
>
> A picture is worth a million supposedly "cooked" emails.
;^D Unless the pix are photoshopped....like Al Gore did for his recent
book.
>
>>
>>> Just blindly accept what was heard on Fox because they hate Obama too
>>> so they must be right.
>> Climategate is a UK thing. Not sure how Obama plays into this....well,
>> except that he's going to Copenhagen to pledge to get his Cap and Tax
>> bill passes so all bad American's will pay the penalty for their carbon
>> "footprint" :^D
>>
>
> The climate is a WORLD thing.
> Things need to be paid for.
LOL! Yep - *this* is likely the reason why the GW/CC "scientists"
didn't want their "cooked data" emails to make it to the general
public....they were hoping that Obama's Cap and Tax profits would help
them to pay for "things". :^D ROTFFLMMFAO!!!!
>
> You idiots don't mind spending a trillion in Iraq but getting off
> foreign oil and cleaning the environment makes you insane.
I'll pay whatever it takes to continue the war on terror. But I will not
pay a dime for your GW/CC scam.
>
> Ridiculous.
HUGE kudos to Obama for continuing to fight the war on terror. And
additional kudos to Obama for making the right decision to keep Club
Gitmo open and in business indefinitely!!!
If your Messiah keeps going in *this* direction - I might actually vote
for him in 2012 ;^D
>
>>> Besides, it's easier that way then having to actually back up
>>> assertions of data tampering with facts.
>> The GW scientists have confirmed the released emails containing the
>> cooked numbers are real.
>>
>> One cooked number and the entire GW/CC scam is sunk.
>>
>
> Horseshit. There is decades of research by thousands of scientists.
Cooked research.....or actual research? It'll be difficult to separate
the two now after the ClimateGate emails.
>
> It is stupid and irresponsible to claim that.
It is stupid and irresponsible to cook numbers on an issue that can
affect the entire globe.
Thankfully they got caught red-handed!!!
>
>>
>>> So what if global warming is real?
>> Natural climate change is real. It has dramatically affected the Earth
>> many times over the eons. The Earth and the living beings on the planet
>> adapted accordingly. And will do so again. No need to tax the bejesus
>> out of everyone simply to line Al Gore's pockets which are already
>> overflowing with cash.
>>
>> Man-made GW/CC isn't real - as the cooked data indicates.
>>
>
> Al Gore gave away every cent from the film and books.
> This has been documented ad nauseum.
That's nice. But some how, some way, his personal wealth has skyrocketed
since he left the office of VP.
>
> Humans are dumping 30 Gigatons of Carbon unnaturally into the
> ecosystem.
> Show me research that shows that has no effect on the natural adaption
> of the planet.
Would love to....but the guys responsible for that fixed the numbers to
match their agenda. So I'm afraid I can't easily get those numbers for
you now.
Due to ClimateGate....it's back to square one for the GW/CC folks.
>
> You can't because it DOES NOT EXIST.
Maybe. But we can't say either way due to the ClimateGate cooked numbers.
>
> You claim is stupid, erroneous, unfounded and DANGEROUS.
The ClimateGate emails and graphs render GW/CC fraudulent, manipulated,
cooked, and now *meaningless*.
>
>
>>> Jesus will fix it, so don't worry
>>> about it.
>> Indeed, Jesus/God/Mother Nature/etc will do what it's always done as the
>> Earth continues it's journey through space.
>>
>
> You know what she does? She kills off species that cannot adapt.
>
> Like Republicons.
Clearly republicans adapt...seeing that a republican has been POTUS for
20 of the past 28 years.
ClimateGate will likely make the "adaption" easier than ever in 2010 and
again in 2012 if your Messiah makes the unwise decision to still fly to
Copenhagen in an effort to get his Cap and Tax debacle passed.
>
>> However, your Messiah will still try to raise our taxes with the Cap and
>> Tax debacle ;^D
>>
>> ROTFFLMMFAO!!!!!!!!
>
> Yup, and I hope he succeeds for your sake and mine.
A liberal never saw a tax he didn't just completely adore (so long as it
doesn't support the US military) ;^D
Gotta run, time to put another few logs on the fire - it's getting cold
in here...as it *always* does in late November.
John Q Public
Funny how the billions upon billions in new taxes via cap & trade do
nothing to actually reduce
carbon emissions and by the govts. own admission said revenue will not
be spent (Except for
a pittance so they can say they are doing something) on eco friendly
energy. Instead it will be spent
on more social programs and aid to 3rd world nations.
Gee if global warming is so dire why isn't the govt. spending all the
money in a last ditch attempt
to save dying earth.
Because nanny stat BO and friends know its bullshit and can't wait to
get their hands on more of
your money plain and simple
So show us more propaganda, anyone with a brain knows its BS and you
just cement into good
free thinking minds the necessity of voting you fuckwits out in 2010 and beyond
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Photosynthesis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosynthesis
Photosynthesis a process that converts carbon
dioxide into organic compounds, especially sugars,
using the energy from sunlight.[1]
Photosynthesis occurs in plants, algae, and many
species of Bacteria. Photosynthetic organisms are
called photoautotrophs, since it allows them to
create their own food.
In plants, algae and cyanobacteria, photosynthesis
uses carbon dioxide and water, releasing oxygen as
a waste product.
Photosynthesis (CO2) is vital for life on Earth.
As well as maintaining the normal level of oxygen in
the atmosphere, nearly all life either depends on it
directly as a source of energy, or indirectly as the
ultimate source of the energy in their food.[β][2]
The amount of energy trapped by photosynthesis is
immense, approximately 100 terawatts:[3] which is
about six times larger than the power consumption
of human civilization.[4]
As well as energy, photosynthesis is also the source
of the carbon in all the organic compounds within
organisms' bodies. In all, photosynthetic organisms
convert around 100,000,000,000 tonnes of carbon
into biomass per year.[5]
Photosynthesis evolved early in the evolutionary
history of life, when all forms of life on Earth were
microorganisms and the atmosphere had much more
carbon dioxide. The first photosynthetic organisms
probably evolved about 3,500 million years ago, and
used hydrogen or hydrogen sulfide as sources of
electrons, rather than water.[6]
Cyanobacteria appeared later, around 3,000 million
years ago, and changed the Earth forever when they
began to oxygenate the atmosphere, beginning
about 2,400 million years ago.[7]
This new atmosphere allowed the evolution of
complex life such as protists. Eventually, about 550
million years ago, one of these protists formed a
symbiotic relationship with a cyanobacterium,
producing the ancestor of the plants and algae.[8]
The chloroplasts in modern plants are the
descendants of these ancient symbiotic cyanobacteria.
2n CO2 + 2n H2O + photons → 2(CH2O)n + 2n O2
carbon dioxide + water + light energy → carbohydrate + oxygen