Re: Former Pfizer VP: ‘Your government is lying to you in a way that could lead to your death.’

[Dexter]

Andrew W wrote:

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https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-government-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death
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> Dr. Michael Yeadon, Pfizer's former Vice President and Chief
> Scientist for Allergy & Respiratory who spent 32 years in the
> industry leading new medicines research and retired from the
> pharmaceutical giant with “the most senior research position”
> in his field, spoke with LifeSiteNews.
>
> He addressed the “demonstrably false” propaganda from
> governments in response to COVID-19, including the “lie” of
> dangerous variants, the totalitarian potential for “vaccine
> passports,” and the strong possibility we are dealing with a
> “conspiracy” which could lead to something far beyond the
> carnage experienced in the wars and massacres of the 20th
> century.
>
> His main points included:
> There is “no possibility” current variants of COVID-19 will
> escape immunity. It is “just a lie.”
>
> Yet, governments around the world are repeating this lie,
> indicating that we are witnessing not just “convergent
> opportunism,” but a “conspiracy.” Meanwhile media outlets and
> Big Tech platforms are committed to the same propaganda and
> the censorship of the truth.
>
> Pharmaceutical companies have already begun to develop
> unneeded “top-up” (“booster”) vaccines for the “variants.” The
> companies are planning to manufacture billions of vials, in
> addition to the current experimental COVID-19 “vaccine”
> campaign.
>
> Regulatory agencies like the U.S. Food and Drug Administration
> and the European Medicines Agency, have announced that since
> these “top-up” vaccines will be so similar to the prior
> injections which were approved for emergency use
> authorization, drug companies will not be required to “perform
> any clinical safety studies.”
>
> Thus, this virtually means that design and implementation of
> repeated and coerced mRNA vaccines “go from the computer
> screen of a pharmaceutical company into the arms of hundreds
> of millions of people, [injecting] some superfluous genetic
> sequence for which there is absolutely no need or
> justification.”
>
> Why are they doing this? Since no benign reason is apparent,
> the use of vaccine passports along with a “banking reset”
> could issue in a totalitarianism unlike the world has ever
> seen. Recalling the evil of Stalin, Mao, and Hitler, “mass
> depopulation” remains a logical outcome.
>
> The fact that this at least could be true means everyone must
> “fight like crazy to make sure that system never forms.”
>
> Dr. Yeadon began identifying himself as merely a “boring guy”
> who went “to work for a big drug company … listening to the
> main national broadcast and reading the broad sheet
> newspapers.”
>
> Continuing, he said: “But in the last year I have realized
> that my government and its advisers are lying in the faces of
> the British people about everything to do with this
> coronavirus. Absolutely everything. It’s a fallacy this idea
> of asymptomatic transmission and that you don’t have symptoms,
> but you are a source of a virus. That lockdowns work, that
> masks have a protective value obviously for you or someone
> else, and that variants are scary things and we even need to
> close international borders in case some of these nasty
> foreign variants get in.
>
> “Or, by the way, on top of the current list of gene-based
> vaccines that we have miraculously made, there will be some
> ‘top-up’ vaccines to cope with the immune escape variants.
>
> “Everything I have told you, every single one of those things
> is demonstrably false. But our entire national policy is based
> on these all being broadly right, but they are all wrong.”
>
> ‘Conspiracy’ and not just ‘convergent opportunism’
> “But what I would like to do is talk about immune escape
> because I think that’s probably going to be the end game for
> this whole event, which I think is probably a conspiracy. Last
> year I thought it was what I called ‘convergent opportunism,’
> that is a bunch of different stakeholder groups have managed
> to pounce on a world in chaos to push us in a particular
> direction. So it looked like it was kind of linked, but I was
> prepared to say it was just convergence.”
>
> “I [now] think that’s naïve. There is no question in my mind
> that very significant powerbrokers around the world have
> either planned to take advantage of the next pandemic or
> created the pandemic. One of those two things is true because
> the reason it must be true is that dozens and dozens of
> governments are all saying the same lies and doing the same
> inefficacious things that demonstrably cost lives.
>
> “And they are talking the same sort of future script which is,
> ‘We don’t want you to move around because of these pesky
> varmints, these “variants”’— which I call ‘samiants’ by the
> way, because they are pretty much the same — but they’re all
> saying this and they are all saying ‘don’t worry, there will
> be “top-up” vaccines that will cope with the potential
> escapees.’ They’re all saying this when it is obviously
> nonsense.”
>
> Possible end game: vaccine ‘passports’ tied to spending
> allowances, thorough control “I think the end game is going to
> be, ‘everyone receives a vaccine’… Everyone on the planet is
> going to find themselves persuaded, cajoled, not quite
> mandated, hemmed-in to take a jab.
>
> “When they do that every single individual on the planet will
> have a name, or unique digital ID and a health status flag
> which will be ‘vaccinated,’ or not … and whoever possesses
> that, sort of single database, operable centrally, applicable
> everywhere to control, to provide as it were, a privilege, you
> can either cross this particular threshold or conduct this
> particular transaction or not depending on [what] the
> controllers of that one human population database decide. And
> I think that’s what this is all about because once you’ve got
> that, we become playthings and the world can be as the
> controllers of that database want it.
>
> “For example, you might find that after a banking reset that
> you can only spend through using an app that actually feeds
> off this [database], your ID, your name, [and] your health
> status flag.”
>
> “And, yes, certainly crossing an international border is the
> most obvious use for these vaccine passports, as they are
> called, but I’ve heard talk of them already that they could be
> necessary for you to get into public spaces, enclosed public
> spaces. I expect that if they wanted to, you would not be able
> to leave your house in the future without the appropriate
> privilege on your app.
>
> “But even if that’s not [the] true [intent of the vaccine
> campaign], it doesn’t matter, the fact that it could be true
> means everyone [reading] this should fight like crazy to make
> sure that [vaccine passport] system never forms.”
>
> “[With such a system], here is an example of what they could
> make you do, and I think this is what they’re going to make
> [people] do.
>
> “You could invent a story that is about a virus and its
> variations, its mutations over time. You could invent the
> story and make sure you embed it through the captive media,
> make sure that no one can counter it by censoring alternative
> sources, then people are now familiar with this idea that this
> virus mutates, which it does, and that it produces variants,
> which is true [as well], which could escape your immune
> system, and that’s a lie.
>
> “But, nevertheless, we’re going to tell you it’s true, and
> then when we tell you that it’s true and we say ‘but we’ve got
> the cure, here’s a top-up vaccine,’ you’ll get a message,
> based on this one global, this one ID system: ‘Bing!’ it will
> come up and say ‘Dr. Yeadon, time for your top-up vaccine.
> And, by the way,’ it will say ‘your existing immune privileges
> remain valid for four weeks. But if you don’t get your top-up
> vaccine in that time, you will unfortunately detrimentally be
> an “out person,” and you don’t want that, do you?’ So, that’s
> how it’ll work, and people will just walk up and they’ll get
> their top-up vaccine.”
>
> Gov’t lies, Big Pharma moves forward, medicine regulators get
> out of the way, and possible ‘mass-depopulation’ “But I will
> take you through this, Patrick, because I am qualified to
> comment. I don’t know what Vanden Bossche is about. There was
> no possibility at all, based on all of the variants that are
> in the public domain, 4000 or so of them, none of them are
> going to escape immunity [i.e. become more dangerous].
>
> “Nevertheless, politicians and health advisers (to loads of
> governments) are saying that they are. They’re lying. Well,
> why would you do that?
>
> “Here’s the other thing, in parallel, pharmaceutical companies
> have said, several of them, it will be quite easy for us to
> adjust our gene-based vaccines, and we can hasten them through
> development, and we can help you.
>
> “And here’s the real scary part, global medicines regulators
> like [the U.S. Food and Drug Administration] FDA, the Japanese
> medicines agency, the European Medicines Agency, have gotten
> together and announced … since top-up vaccines will be
> considered so similar to the ones that we have already
> approved for emergency use authorization, we are not going to
> require the drug companies to perform any clinical safety
> studies.
>
> “So, you’ve got on the one hand, governments and their
> advisers that are lying to you that variants are different
> enough from the current virus that, even if you’re immune from
> natural exposure or vaccination, you’re a risk and you need to
> come and get this top-up vaccine. So, I think neither of those
> are true. So why is the drug company making the top-up
> vaccines? And [with] the regulators having got out of the way
> — and if Yeadon is right, and I’m sure I am or I wouldn’t be
> telling you this — you go from the computer screen of a
> pharmaceutical company into the arms of hundreds of millions
> of people, some superfluous genetic sequence for which there
> is absolutely no need or justification.
>
> “And if you wanted to introduce a characteristic which could
> be harmful and could even be lethal, and you can even tune it
> to say ‘let’s put it in some gene that will cause liver injury
> over a nine-month period,’ or, cause your kidneys to fail but
> not until you encounter this kind of organism [that would be
> quite possible]. Biotechnology provides you with limitless
> ways, frankly, to injure or kill billions of people.
>
> “And since I can’t think of a benign explanation for any of
> the steps: variants, top-up vaccines, no regulatory studies…
> it’s not only that I cannot think of a benign explanation, the
> steps described, and the scenario described, and the necessary
> sort of resolution to this false problem is going to allow
> what I just described: unknown, and unnecessary gene sequences
> injected into the arms of potentially billions of people for
> no reason.
>
> “I’m very worried … that pathway will be used for mass
> depopulation, because I can’t think of any benign explanation.”
>
> ‘Absurdly impossible’ variants will escape immunity, ‘just a
> lie’ “If I can show you that one major thing that governments
> around the world are telling the people is a lie, you should
> take my 32 years of experienced opinion that says, most of it,
> if not all of it, is a lie.”
>
> “The most different variant is only 0.3% different from the
> original sequence as emailed out of Wuhan in … January 2020.
> 0.3% [is] the one [variant] that is the most different on the
> planet so far. And now another way of saying it is, ‘all of
> the variants are not less than 99.7% identical to each other.’
>
> “Now, you might be thinking, ‘hmm, .3%, is that enough [to
> escape immunity and become more dangerous]?’ The answer is no.
> Get away, ya know, get out of here …
>
> “The human immune system is a thing of wonder. What it does is
> when it faces a new pathogen like this, you’ve got
> professional cells, they’re called professional
> antigen-presenting cells —they’re kind of rough tough things
> that tend not to succumb to viruses. And their job is to grab
> foreign things in the near environment and tear them limb from
> limb [inside the cell]. They really cut them up into hundreds
> of pieces. And then they present these pieces on the surfaces
> of their cell to other bits of your immune system, and
> amazingly, because of the variability that God and nature gave
> you, huge variability to recognize foreign things, and your
> body ends up using 15 to 20 different specific motifs that it
> spots about this virus. They’re called epitopes, basically
> they’re just like little photographs of the details about this
> virus. That’s what they do. And that is what is called your
> repertoire, your immune repertoire is like 20 different
> accurate photographs, close-ups, of different bits of this
> virus.
>
> “Now, if a tiny piece of the virus changes, like the .3% I’ve
> just described, if you are reinfected by that variant, your
> professional cells tear into that virus and cut it into
> pieces, present them again, and lo and behold, most of the
> pieces that you have already seen and recognized, are still
> there in the variants.
>
> “There is absolutely no chance that all of them will fail to
> be recognized and that is what is required for immune escape,
> to escape your immunity. It must present to you as a new
> pathogen. It must be sufficiently different that, when it is
> cut up by your professional checker cells, it won’t find
> mostly the same thing it has seen before. And that is just
> absurdly impossible when you have only varied .3%, so it is
> 99.7% (similar).
>
> “You can go and check that by looking at papers by a person
> called Alison Tarke. There is also Shane Crotty, and all of
> the other co-authors.
>
> “And before them, coming from my theoretical understanding of
> multi-locus immunity, which is what I just badly tried to
> describe, to what actually happens … If your [immune system]
> is presented with something that contains even half of those
> similar pieces, there is no way your body will say, ‘that’s a
> new pathogen.’
>
> “And, so, the idea that 0.3% could even have a chance of
> getting around immunity is just a lie. It’s not [even] like an
> opinion difference.
>
> “I don’t think 3% would be enough. That’s 10 times more
> variation than has occurred in 16 months [with this virus]. I
> don’t even think 30% difference would be enough. So, I’m
> saying that 100 times more variation than has actually
> happened, would still leave me putting a big bet on the human
> immune system not being fooled that these are new pathogens.
>
> “I’ve chatted this over with several professors of immunology
> and they agreed with me, it’s like, ‘why are you asking me
> this?’
>
> “So, I think that what I’ve just said is that governments and
> their advisors in multiple countries are lying about variants.
> That’s a massive thing! You should check it out. Your readers
> should check it out. If it’s true, don’t you think it’s
> terrifying?! It was when I realized it.
>
> “So, they’re lying about variants, and then, of course, since
> [the variants] are not really different, you do not need a
> ‘top-up’ vaccine. Now you should be getting the hairs on the
> back of your neck up, because they are making them right now!”
>
> “They are making billions of vials of it. And they will be
> available by the end of the year.
>
> “And I think they’ll require people to first, be on the
> vaccine passport one-world database, and then it will roll up
> into the top-ups, and if it takes a bit longer it will take a
> bit longer.
>
> “But this is not going away. It won’t go away until enough
> people, if they ever do, say ‘you’re a bunch of frauds and we
> are taking our freedoms back, so you can just stop doing this.’
>
> “Because one person shouting into the wilderness and all of
> the other academics looking the other way, will have us just
> going down this pipe maybe a week later than if I hadn’t said
> anything, but we’re still going down to hell.
>
> “So, that’s why I’m frightened.
>
> “The variants aren’t different. I call them ‘samiants’…
> they’re pretty much the same. They’re not different.
> Therefore, you don’t need a top-up vaccine, so don’t go near
> any of them.”
>
> ‘Why is my government lying to me?’ Because ‘they are going to
> kill you.’ “[And if you recognize that our governments are
> involved in a major verifiable lie], don’t just turn your
> computer off and go to supper. Stop. Look out the window, and
> think, ‘why is my government lying to me about something so
> fundamental?’ Because, I think the answer is, they are going
> to kill you using this method. They’re going to kill you and
> your family.
>
> “The eugenicists have got hold of the levers of power and this
> is a really artful way of getting you to line-up and receive
> some unspecified thing that will damage you. I have no idea
> what it will actually be, but it won’t be a vaccine because
> you don’t need one. And it won’t kill you on the end of the
> needle because you would spot that.
>
> “It could be something that will produce normal pathology, it
> will be at various times between vaccination and the event, it
> will be plausibly deniable because there will be something
> else going on in the world at that time, in the context of
> which your demise, or that of your children will look normal.
>
> “That’s what I would do if I wanted to get rid of 90 or 95% of
> the world’s population. And I think that’s what they’re doing.”
>
> “Now I don’t know [for certain] that they’re going to use that
> [system] to kill you, but I can’t think of a benign reason,
> and with that power they certainly could harm you, or control
> you, so you should object [and strenuously oppose it].”
>
> People can’t deal with this level of evil, but Soviets,
> Hitler, Mao show its possibility “It’s become absolutely clear
> to me, even when I talk to intelligent people, friends,
> acquaintances … and they can tell I’m telling them something
> important, but they get to the point [where I say] ‘your
> government is lying to you in a way that could lead to your
> death and that of your children,’ and they can’t begin to
> engage with it. And I think maybe 10% of them understand what
> I said, and 90% of those blank their understanding of it
> because it is too difficult. And my concern is, we are going
> to lose this, because people will not deal with the
> possibility that anyone is so evil…
>
> “But I remind you of what happened in Russia in the 20th
> Century, what happened in 1933 to 1945, what happened in, you
> know, Southeast Asia in some of the most awful times in the
> post-war era. And, what happened in China with Mao and so on.
>
> “We’ve only got to look back two or three generations. All
> around us there are people who are as bad as the people doing
> this. They’re all around us. So, I say to folks, the only
> thing that really marks this one out, is its scale.
>
> “But actually, this is probably less bloody, it’s less
> personal, isn’t it? The people who are steering this … it’s
> going to be much easier for them. They don’t have to shoot
> anyone in the face. They don’t have to beat someone to death
> with a baseball bat, or freeze them, starve them, make them
> work until they die. All of those things did happen two or
> three generations back and our grandparents or great
> grandparents were either victims of this, or they were
> actually members of it, or at least they witnessed it from
> overseas. That’s how close we are.
>
> “And all I’m saying is, some shifts like that are happening
> again, but now they are using molecular biology.
>
> “And the people going along with it, I think they would
> probably say, ‘I was only following orders,’ which we have
> heard before.
>
> “But I know, because I have talked to lots of people, and some
> of them have said ‘I don’t want to believe that you are right,
> so I’m going to just put it away because if it is true, I
> can’t handle it.’ And I think … all you need to do is find a
> good reason to tell people, ‘Don’t take the vaccine unless
> you’re a medical risk of dying from the virus!’ That seems to
> me a pretty good line!”
>
> Towards a solution – ‘We need God’
> “I’m a scientist, and I can tell you, talking to
> non-scientists, using science as a tool, will not work. It
> will fail.
>
> “So, we need philosophers, people who understand logic,
> religion, something like that, [they have] got to wrestle with
> this, and start talking in a language people will understand.
> Because if we leave it with scientists, people like me, even
> though I’m well-intentioned, I’m a gabbling alien as far as
> most people in the street are concerned. They won’t believe
> the government will lie to them, they don’t believe the
> government would ever do anything that will harm them, but
> they are [doing such things].”
>
> Finally, in an email correspondence, Dr. Yeadon concluded, “I
> have latest taken to signing off with ‘May God save us’,
> because I think we need God now more than at any time since
> WW2.”

Even scientists, including former Pfizer VPs, can fall prey to
mental illness and conspiracy theories.

[Mitchell Holman]

"Andrew W" <spam_a...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in
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> nment-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death
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"lifesitenews".

'Nuff said..........

[Andrew W]

"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
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>"Andrew W" <spam_a...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in
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>> https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-gover
>> nment-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death
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> "lifesitenews".
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> 'Nuff said..........
>

If trolls put down a site then it must be good.
Thanks for your endorsement.

[MHD]

Bullshit.

The current vaccine WILL offer good protection against
the current strain - and decent protection against the
current variants. You won't die from C19 if you get the
shot.

However, yes, like the flu, NEW vaccines to cover the
inevitible future variants WILL be required. It is going
to be like flu shots - one a year to cover all the new
bases.

The new mRNA techniques like Pfizer and Moderna use
can be MUCH quicker to react to the latest variants. The
problem with flu vaccines not covering this years dominant
strain are OVER. Next years shots are surely already in
Moderna's and Pfizer's test tubes. If Joe and friends in ANY
way get in the way of them - IMPEACH and PROSECUTE
like crazy. We know they'd like a perpetual epidemic, a
perpetual state of emergency, that justifies all sorts of extra
authority - just as Machiavelli recommended.

[Andrew W]

"MHD" wrote in message news:6ca27gtv42hoctbgn...@4ax.com...

>Bullshit.
>
>The current vaccine WILL offer good protection against
>the current strain - and decent protection against the
>current variants.
>

How do you know? You don't. You're just repeating whatever the establishment
media and doctors are saying.
So far there's been no proof that the vaccine can stop anything.

[Malte Runz]

Less than two hours ago I wrote this in a reply to one of your posts:

'If a video is banned, they must have been telling the truth, and the
commie-nazis are hiding it from you.'

Again you sound exactly like what I thought was an exaggerated parody
of your line of reasoning.

And, by the way, do look up the definition of 'troll', okay.

Sorry, what was I thinking. Here it is:

From Wiki:
"In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts flame wars or
intentionally upsets people on the Internet. This is typically done by
posting inflammatory and digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic
messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat
room, or blog), ..."

Like cross-posting quasi-religious new-agey material and obvious
conspiracy theories to a newsgroup called alt.atheism.

"... with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional
responses[2] and normalizing tangential discussion.[3]"

That's you, Andrew W, to a T.

--
Malte Runz

[Andrew W]

"Malte Runz" wrote in message
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Believe what you want but I'm not here to upset people.

[Ted]

On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 22:55:22 +1000, "Andrew W"
<spam_a...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-gover
nment-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death

> Dr. Michael Yeadon, Pfizer's former Vice President and Chief
Scientist for
> Allergy & Respiratory who spent 32 years in
> the industry leading new
> medicines research and retired from the
> pharmaceutical giant with “the most
> senior research position” in his field, spoke
> with LifeSiteNews.

I read what he's telling us. And his credibility
is undeniable. We'd all be well advised to
do a risk vs benefit assessment to the best
of our limited abilities. Which I've of course
done and decided to receive the vaccine.
And pretty much everything I've learned
since confirms it was the appropriate
decision.

That said, there are still issues deserving of
at least a raised eyebrow. But the opinions of
standard anti-vaxxer nutcases aren't worth even a moment's
consideration. And I don't know of any reliable sources sounding
alarms, other than the fellow cited above, so
I'm inclined to dismiss what he says too.

[Unbreakable Disease]

On 09.04.2021 12:55, Andrew W wrote:
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> https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-government-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death
>
>
>

> Dr. Michael Yeadon, Pfizer's former Vice President and Chief Scientist
> for Allergy & Respiratory who spent 32 years in the industry leading new
> medicines research and retired from the pharmaceutical giant with “the
> most senior research position” in his field, spoke with LifeSiteNews.
>

Is there any evidence that they wrote with a *real* Dr. Yeador and not
an impostor? Are there any other independent sources of this article?

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[MHD]

What ? Goverment - LYING ??? Who could imagine
such a thing !!!

Hey, the shots DO work. They will at least reduce the
intensity of any future infection. Not perfect, but what's
new hmm ?

I've already had Dose #1 ... very soon #2. It's the difference
between having a "flu" and spending three months with
a tube down my throat - or a sealed aluminum coffin.

But if you want something WORSE than lies - consider
that Moderna had its vaccine way back LAST April -
long before the big waves, long before any mutations.
Our sane scientific humanitarian FDA BLOCKED
DISTRIBUTION for almost nine months - indeed
until just after Trump was (supposedly) diselected
(interesting timing eh ?).

This is BEYOND accident, it's GENOCIDAL behavior
with likely political motivations. Is there enough room
at Gitmo for the entire FDA management staff ? Those
little tin gods killed HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS.

[MHD]

Got your subscriptions to SCIENCE, NATURE, NEJM ? I do.
I pay for 'em, I read 'em. If you know where to surf you can
get the raw academic output of countries around the world -
ones that DON'T like each other, will NOT be part of some
Vaste Konspiracy theme. Don't try to out-science me you
ignorant fuck. The Truth IS out there, but you won't find it
from any NAZI or Commie extremist sources. All THEY
want is exploitable chaos.

[Andrew]

"MHD" wrote in message news:h5s47gt4j346apsps...@4ax.com...
>"Andrew W" wrote:

>>"MHD" wrote:
>>
>>>Bullshit.
>>>
>>>The current vaccine WILL offer good protection against
>>>the current strain - and decent protection against the
>>>current variants.
>>
>>How do you know? You don't. You're just repeating whatever
>>the establishment media and doctors are saying.
>>So far there's been no proof that the vaccine can stop anything.
>
> Got your subscriptions to SCIENCE, NATURE, NEJM ? I do.
> I pay for 'em, I read 'em. If you know where to surf you can
> get the raw academic output of countries around the world -
> ones that DON'T like each other, will NOT be part of some
> Vaste Konspiracy theme. Don't try to out-science me you
> ignorant fuck. The Truth IS out there, but you won't find it
> from any NAZI or Commie extremist sources. All THEY
> want is exploitable chaos.

After you calm down, would you like to please answer his
question? If you cannot, then we have prima facie evidence
that you are fighting ---> against the truth. <----

Then when you finish that, you may then want to apologize
to the nice man for losing control of your good nature and
using profanity.

[Ted]

If that's true, yes.

[Andrew W]

"MHD" wrote in message news:h5s47gt4j346apsps...@4ax.com...

>On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 15:44:24 +1000, "Andrew W"
><spam_a...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>>"MHD" wrote in message news:6ca27gtv42hoctbgn...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>Bullshit.
>>>
>>>The current vaccine WILL offer good protection against
>>>the current strain - and decent protection against the
>>>current variants.
>>>
>>
>>How do you know? You don't. You're just repeating whatever
>>the establishment media and doctors are saying.
>>So far there's been no proof that the vaccine can stop anything.
>
> Got your subscriptions to SCIENCE, NATURE, NEJM ? I do.
> I pay for 'em, I read 'em. If you know where to surf you can
> get the raw academic output of countries around the world -
> ones that DON'T like each other, will NOT be part of some
> Vaste Konspiracy theme. Don't try to out-science me you

> ignorant ____. >
>

Raw data does not equal raw truth or fact. It is still establishment data.
It is all affected by rules and interpretations and based on establishment
infrastructure.

>
The Truth IS out there, but you won't find it
> from any NAZI or Commie extremist sources. All THEY
> want is exploitable chaos.
>

Do you have any clue what you're talking about there?

[MHD]

On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 10:19:29 +1000, "Andrew W"

<spam_a...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

>"MHD" wrote in message news:h5s47gt4j346apsps...@4ax.com...
>
>>On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 15:44:24 +1000, "Andrew W"
>><spam_a...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>>"MHD" wrote in message news:6ca27gtv42hoctbgn...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>>Bullshit.
>>>>
>>>>The current vaccine WILL offer good protection against
>>>>the current strain - and decent protection against the
>>>>current variants.
>>>>
>>>
>>>How do you know? You don't. You're just repeating whatever
>>>the establishment media and doctors are saying.
>>>So far there's been no proof that the vaccine can stop anything.
>>
>> Got your subscriptions to SCIENCE, NATURE, NEJM ? I do.
>> I pay for 'em, I read 'em. If you know where to surf you can
>> get the raw academic output of countries around the world -
>> ones that DON'T like each other, will NOT be part of some
>> Vaste Konspiracy theme. Don't try to out-science me you
>> ignorant ____. >
>>
>
>Raw data does not equal raw truth or fact. It is still establishment data.
>It is all affected by rules and interpretations and based on establishment
>infrastructure.

"Fuck" is spelled F-U-C-K ... not "____"

Raw data IS the Truth. You just need a little background
in order to understand what it's saying.

Warning, there may be words with multiple syllables mixed
in there .....

>The Truth IS out there, but you won't find it
>> from any NAZI or Commie extremist sources. All THEY
>> want is exploitable chaos.
>>
>
>Do you have any clue what you're talking about there?

Very much so.