I can see why
JSM
drafting laws with a congressional pay raise built into it, she has
never taken a kick-back, she hasn't 'ear-marked' millions for her own
state, she hasn't taken any extensive vacations at any big companies
expense, she hasn't taken a dime (let alone millions) from
pharmaceutical companies, she hasn't made a speech on the senate floor
that she would later vote against, and she even lives in the state she
represents.
Paul P
Who cares about Palin ?
Paul P
Carl
brother-in-law police officer at her request over a divorce disagreement; a
governor of a state of only 670,000 people and she's already under
investigation (which, by the way, she's not cooperating with). Sounds like a
good start for true Presidential material to me.
Bill Shatzer
> JSM wrote:
If your idea of true presidential material is Dick Nixon.
Peace and justice,
JSM
I only like Palin because she so far is not part of the problem. The
thing in alaska is unproven and a democratic witch hunt also she is
not required to testify. Even so, if that was the worse she ever did
she is a saint by comparison. Kennedy killed his pregnant girl
friend Clinton had people stealing evidence out of the national
archives, refused to obey subpoenas on his white water dealings, lied,
many people that knew are now dead, shit the list goes on. Like I
said, by comparison Palin is a saint.
Bill Shatzer
-snip-
> I only like Palin because she so far is not part of the problem. The
> thing in alaska is unproven and a democratic witch hunt also she is
> not required to testify. Even so, if that was the worse she ever did
> she is a saint by comparison. Kennedy killed his pregnant girl
> friend Clinton had people stealing evidence out of the national
> archives, refused to obey subpoenas on his white water dealings, lied,
> many people that knew are now dead, shit the list goes on. Like I
> said, by comparison Palin is a saint.
What's Clinton running for?
Peace and justice,
JSM
That is a good question except the answer is obvious. The dems picked
Obama because he has never done anything, he is an unknown. You can't
look at somebodies record who doesn't have one but you can look at his
supporters. So, if you are voting for Obama you are voting for the
Clinton's, Al Gore. Kerry, Kennedy, Kadaffi and Macmood I'm-a-nut-
job. I have no idea why the Repubs picked McCain, I can only surmise
somebody put something in the water that made them all crazy (ier).
BOB
c523ca...@t65g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
If good Americans really want what is good for America, they won't vote
for McPain.
JSM
> JSM <ekrub...@gmail.com> wrote in news:fcf1a273-9cd7-4793-927d-
> c523cadb5...@t65g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
Yeah, like BHO is so perfect, [sic]
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Saturday, September 27, 2008
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gov. Blunt Statement on Obama Campaign’s Abusive Use of Missouri Law
Enforcement
JEFFERSON CITY - Gov. Matt Blunt today issued the following statement
on news reports that have exposed plans by U.S. Senator Barack Obama
to use Missouri law enforcement to threaten and intimidate his
critics.
“St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch, St. Louis City
Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce, Jefferson County Sheriff Glenn Boyer,
and Obama and the leader of his Missouri campaign Senator Claire
McCaskill have attached the stench of police state tactics to the
Obama-Biden campaign.
“What Senator Obama and his helpers are doing is scandalous beyond
words, the party that claims to be the party of Thomas Jefferson is
abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence
political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal
punishment.
“This abuse of the law for intimidation insults the most sacred
principles and ideals of Jefferson. I can think of nothing more
offensive to Jefferson’s thinking than using the power of the state to
deprive Americans of their civil rights. The only conceivable purpose
of Messrs. McCulloch, Obama and the others is to frighten people away
from expressing themselves, to chill free and open debate, to suppress
support and donations to conservative organizations targeted by this
anti-civil rights, to strangle criticism of Mr. Obama, to suppress ads
about his support of higher taxes, and to choke out criticism on
television, radio, the Internet, blogs, e-mail and daily conversation
about the election.
“Barack Obama needs to grow up. Leftist blogs and others in the press
constantly say false things about me and my family. Usually, we
ignore false and scurrilous accusations because the purveyors have no
credibility. When necessary, we refute them. Enlisting Missouri law
enforcement to intimidate people and kill free debate is reminiscent
of the Sedition Acts - not a free society.”
Carl
like you've given up hope brother.
So Nixon, Kennedy, and Clinton were worse than Palin (so far). Does that
mean we need to accept a person capable of lesser moral infractions than
they committed? Is that the new standard?
She's only 44 years old, has participated in only small-time politics and is
already in "trouble". The fact that she is not required to testify, or that
the allegations are yet unproven, are really insignificant compared to the
fact that they've been made and not adamantly denied and that she's not
moral enough to testify voluntarily. If her moral character is such that she
would engage in such petty political heavy-handedness at her low level, what
do you think she might be capable of doing given more power? I think that's
the question you should be considering. Do we ever judge our politicians
based on their apparent moral character anymore, or is everything they do
"ok" as long as it's "not related to the job"?
JSM
You can see only what you you want to see. You don't think Obama has
any dirty linen? BHO's good buddy is the guy was in charge of Fannie
Mae, but you don't see anything wrong there? BHO bought a house that
he paid $300,000 under assessed value for but he didn't buy the land
it was on, Rizo did, and you don't see anything wrong there? Now I
don't know what Palin actually did in alaska but you don't either. We
both know the dems are going to do everything possible to get or
manufacture anything they can on Palin. Than you insinuate that
someone in office wouldn't use their position to help a friend. Boy,
I don't know what planet you live on but that "IS" what goes on with
politics. The one thing I do like about Palin is she is not part of
the "good ol boy" network in congress. No, she doesn't have the
experience they have, wording pay raises in homeless victims
appropriations, setting up foreign bank accounts for the millions you
receive from pharmaceutical companies & the tobacco lobby and a
thousand other lobbies. She doesn't know how to make a expensive
vacation look like some sort of government project so the federal gov
picks up the tab. I'm sure there are a thousand other places the
"good-ol-boy" network uses to skim money off the fed into their own
pockets. That is the gob network and Biden is most definitely a key
player in it.
JSM
Here is a little more about your choir boy BHO.
Democratic Presidential candidate Barack Obama was quick to blame the
bankruptcy of Wall Street giant Lehman Brothers on Republicans'
"failed
philosophy". Obama's September 15 comments were repeated throughout
the
media--yet reporters have not noted Obama's glaring conflict of
interest-the
Lehman debt owed to a bank owned by the financier who loaned millions
of
dollars to Tony Rezko. Jockeying among the other debtors seeking
repayment
under Chapter 11 bankruptcy rules is BNP Paribas, a large French bank
whose
largest single private shareholder is Nadhmi Auchi's General
Mediterranean
Holdings (GMH). BNP Paribas is owed $250 million by Lehman.
Nadhmi Auchi is an Iraqi whose Baathist ties go back to 1959. A
formerly
high-ranking official in Iraq's Oil Ministry, Auchi left Iraq at the
end of
the 1970s. His wealth then grew exponentially as a procurer of arms
for
Saddam Hussein's government during the Iran-Iraq war. He is now one of
the
richest men in Britain. Saddam Hussein in 1995 selected BNP, which
later
merged with Paribas, as the sole conduit bank handling Oil-for-Food
transactions. This Clinton-era arrangement was changed in 2001 by the
incoming Bush administration.
Auchi was also a key financial backer for Chicago political fixer and
dual
US-Syrian citizen Tony Rezko. This writer explained the complex web of
relationships in an August 24 article titled, "Iraqi Billionaire
Threatens
Reporters Investigating Rezko Affair":
A secret $3.5 million loan from an Auchi company to key early-money
Barack
Obama fundraiser Antoin Rezko was exposed while Rezko was awaiting
trial on
fraud and money-laundering charges earlier this year. Rezko's bail was
revoked and police showed up banging on the doors of his Wilmette
Chicago
mansion to drag him off to jail early in the morning of January 28th.
Auchi's
loan to Rezko had come on May 23, 2005 but had not been disclosed to
the
Court as required in his bail agreement. Three weeks later, on June
15,
2005, Rezko's wife assisted the Obamas in the purchase of their South
Chicago mansion by purchasing a next-door undeveloped lot being sold
with
the house.
from:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/09/obama-rezko-a...
Carl
either "my boy" or that I think he's a "choir boy". I thought we were
talking about Sarah Palin.
It's simply my opinion that she's indefensible as a choice. I was hoping to
avoid going here, but putting aside the allegations made against her (true,
they are at this time merely unfounded allegations), how can anyone vote for
a candidate that came across as she did in all of her Couric interviews?
She had no grasp of certain basic issues, nor any knowledge of some of them,
could not put together a cohesive sentence, was treated as a little girl
being protected by her daddy in the second one, has never traveled anywhere
(ie. she's 'unworldly'), and relied totally on her "cutesiness" factor to
try to get by. Simply put, she was an embarrassment that should have made
any reasonable person cringe.
And don't fall back on that "you're not voting for her, but for McCain"
argument. The VP position is next in line, and the choice goes directly to
McCain's judgement and leadership abilities. He's already f__ked up and that
needs to be acknowledged, not defended.
Hornblende
You do realize those interviews were cut up and presented out of
context, don't you?
http://blogsforjohnmccain.com/abcs-breach-ethics-palin-interview
Hollywood insider and Newsmax contributor James Hirsen tells TV
correspondent Ashley Martella that the actual transcript of ABC'S
interview of Sarah Palin does not match the broadcast itself. He
suspects ABC substituted other Palin answers for questions that she had
good answers for in an effort to make her look bad. Hear his detailed
explanation of what ABC did after the Charlie Gibson interview.
> She had no grasp of certain basic issues,
This isn't political "Jeopardy" you fucking ignorant assburp.
She's not John McCain's biographer and playing political trivia "gotcha"
is irrelevant and dismissive.
Grow a fucking brain and quit letting the absurdly biased media lead you
around like you had a ring through your nose.
Carl
being edited and await further proof of that, though I admittedly am
skeptical of it being sliced and diced the way you're presenting it to be,
but the rest of your post, in which you call ME names, borders on the absurd
and reduces your credibility to close to zero.
A VP candidate should know what "the surge" is, what the Bush Doctrine is,
that Alaska's proximity to an outlying part of Russia does not constitute
"foreign policy experience", that Russian planes flying into Alaskan
airspace does not constitute "military defense experience", and should be
able to name ONE newspaper or magazine that she reads for news information.
I need to grow a brain? Yeah, I see. Perhaps YOU should have some standards
for your VP choice other than that you'd like to f__k her. From the
supposedly edited interview portions that I saw, there was not one question
asked of her that I think she shouldn't have been able to answer reasonably.
Even I could have answered them and I'm just a "fucking ignorant assburp".
Hornblende
It's been documented:
http://www.solomonia.com/blog/archive/2008/09/charles-gibsons-interview-with-sarah-pal/
Judith just forwarded this transcript of Gibson's interview with Sarah
Palin before ABC cherrypicked her quotes, editing out key parts of her
responses.
Thanks to Newsbusters:
Next we see that Palin was not nearly as hostile towards Russia as was
presented in the edited interview:
GIBSON: Let me ask you about some specific national security situations.
PALIN: Sure.
GIBSON: Let's start, because we are near Russia, let's start with Russia
and Georgia.
The administration has said we've got to maintain the territorial
integrity of Georgia. Do you believe the United States should try to
restore Georgian sovereignty over South Ossetia and Abkhazia?
PALIN: First off, we're going to continue good relations with
Saakashvili there. I was able to speak with him the other day and giving
him my commitment, as John McCain's running mate, that we will be
committed to Georgia. And we've got to keep an eye on Russia. For Russia
to have exerted such pressure in terms of invading a smaller democratic
country, unprovoked, is unacceptable and we have to keep...
GIBSON: You believe unprovoked.
PALIN: I do believe unprovoked and we have got to keep our eyes on
Russia, under the leadership there. I think it was unfortunate. That
manifestation that we saw with that invasion of Georgia shows us some
steps backwards that Russia has recently taken away from the race toward
a more democratic nation with democratic ideals. That's why we have to
keep an eye on Russia.
And, Charlie, you're in Alaska. We have that very narrow maritime border
between the United States, and the 49th state, Alaska, and Russia. They
are our next door neighbors.We need to have a good relationship with
them. They're very, very important to us and they are our next door
neighbor.
GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last
couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia
from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.
GIBSON: What insight does that give you into what they're doing in Georgia?
PALIN: Well, I'm giving you that perspective of how small our world is
and how important it is that we work with our allies to keep good
relation with all of these countries, especially Russia. We will not
repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies,
pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it's in their
benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be
getting along.
We also see from Palin's following remark, which was also edited out,
that she is far from some sort of latter day Cold Warrior which the
edited interview made her seem to be:
We cannot repeat the Cold War. We are thankful that, under Reagan, we
won the Cold War, without a shot fired, also. We've learned lessons from
that in our relationship with Russia, previously the Soviet Union.
We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our
allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it's in their
benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be
getting along.
Palin's extended remarks about defending our NATO allies were edited out
to make it seem that she was ready to go to war with Russia.
> but the rest of your post, in which you call ME names, borders on the absurd
> and reduces your credibility to close to zero.
The entire attack dog media frenzy on Palin is the true absurdity, did
you find a bit coming right back at YOU to be equally unsettling?
Good.
So it was designed to be.
> A VP candidate should know what "the surge" is, what the Bush Doctrine is,
Why?
The man who coined the term, wasccolumnist Charles Krauthammer:
In the Washington Post, Charles Krauthammer schools Charlie Gibson on
the Bush Doctrine -- a term coined by Krauthammer -- and totally
misunderstood by the Mainstream Media and.... Charlie Gibson.
Quote:
I know something about the subject because, as the Wikipedia entry on
the Bush doctrine notes, I was the first to use the term.
He articulates the evolving nature of the Bush Doctrine, pointing out
that the smarmy Gibson definition is only a small part of the whole.
apparently Gov Palin understands that better than Gibson.
In essence Krauthammer articulated 4 separate Bush doctrines.
Palin is not running as BUSH's VP though is she?
Of course not.
What is important is what she and McCain think, not what Bush does.
Grow a fucking brain.
> that Alaska's proximity to an outlying part of Russia does not constitute
> "foreign policy experience",
http://www.japantoday.com/category/world/view/palin-defends-alaska-russia-remark
When Couric asked how Alaska�s closeness to Russia enhanced her foreign
policy experience, Palin said, �Well, it certainly does because our ...
our next-door neighbors are foreign countries.� Alaska shares a border
with Canada.
Palin didn�t answer directly when Couric inquired about whether she had
been involved in any negotiations with the Russians.
�We have trade missions back and forth,� she replied, although Russia is
not among the state�s top 20 export partners.
Palin has two trade specialists working for the governor�s office. Some
of the top countries receiving Alaskan goods are Japan, China, Canada
and Germany, according to 2007 export data, the most recent figures
published, with seafood accounting for 50 percent of products exported.
Palin spokesman Bill McAllister said she met with Iceland�s president,
Olafur Ragnar Grimsson last fall, and they discussed energy issues. She
also has met with various trade delegations during her two years in office.
> that Russian planes flying into Alaskan
> airspace does not constitute "military defense experience",
Do tell...
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/11/world/main3819788.shtml
(AP) U.S. fighter planes intercepted two Russian bombers, including one
that buzzed an American aircraft carrier in the western Pacific during
the weekend, The Associated Press has learned.
A U.S. military official says that one Russian Tupolev 95 flew directly
over the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz twice, at a low altitude of about
2,000 feet, while another bomber circled about 58 miles out. The
official was speaking on condition of anonymity because the reports on
the flights were classified as secret.
The Saturday incident, which never escalated beyond the flyover, comes
amid heightened tensions between the United States and Russia over U.S.
plans for a missile defense system based in Poland and the Czech Republic.
Such Russian bomber flights were common during the Cold War, but have
been rare since.
http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/jun/26/russian-flights-smack-of-cold-war/
Russian flights smack of Cold War
U.S. fighters ID bombers near Alaska
Russian bombers have stepped up provocative flight exercises off the
Alaskan coast, reminiscent of Cold War incursions designed to rattle
U.S. air defenses.
U.S. Northern Command, which protects North American airspace, told The
Washington Times that TU-95 Bear bombers on 18 occasions the past year
have skirted a 12-mile air defense identification zone that protects
Alaska. The incursions prompted F-15s and F-22 Raptor fighters to
scramble from Elmendorf Air Force Base and intercept the warplanes. The
last incident happened in May.
The venerable propeller-driven TU-95 came to symbolize the Cold War, as
did its counterpart, the U.S. B-52 Stratofortress.
"They have flown close enough to deem it necessary to ID and monitor
them," said Maj. Allen Herritage, a base spokesman. "They come. We ID.
We go back to our base. They go back to their base." Elmendorf is
headquarters for the Alaskan region of the North American Aerospace
Defense Command (NORAD).
Air defense identification zones are military boundaries designed to
guard the U.S. and Canada against attack. To enter the zones legally,
pilots must file flight plans with air controllers. Russian bombers do
not file flight plans, so U.S. and Canadian jets are required to
scramble to identify the planes and warn them away from the area.
"They have not been filing a flight plan and that is the problem," Maj.
Herritage said.
Moscow's sophisticated show of force has some in the Pentagon paying
more attention to the long-term goals of a Russian military, which is
being rebuilt with proceeds from the country's huge oil and gas
revenues. NORAD is more sensitive than ever to wayward aircraft, given
the Sept. 11 attacks by hijackers and the lack of military coordination
at the time to track, and perhaps destroy, the planes.
> and should be
> able to name ONE newspaper or magazine that she reads for news information.
She reads numerous ones, why is any given name important?
> I need to grow a brain? Yeah, I see.
You need to quit reading from the DNC script and then pretending otherwise.
That's trite, easily spotted, and manifestly HYPOCRITICAL.
Now you've been outed, enjoy!
> Perhaps YOU should have some standards
> for your VP choice other than that you'd like to f__k her.
There we go, the famous libDem foul mouth and hatred for women emerges.
No wonder you assholes were so quick to ditch Hillary!
> From the
> supposedly edited interview portions that I saw, there was not one question
> asked of her that I think she shouldn't have been able to answer reasonably.
You're bing fed shit and gladly eating it.
Great if you're a mushroom, not so much for a human.
> Even I could have answered them and I'm just a "fucking ignorant assburp".
Well at least we agree on what you are.
JSM
Carl, we have two choices. with me so far? I'm not thrilled with
Palin, out of 300 million in the US she is somewhere in the middle but
my other choice for president/vice-president is in the last 100,
period. You don't debate the merits of a cheese sandwich when your
other choice is crap on rye.
Carl
sort of feel the same way, but the other way around. I could kick Obama for
not getting Hillary around as his VP choice. Then you'd have a runaway
election, imho.
Carl
more intellectual. I never mentioned her 'hostility toward Russia' in the
first place. Even your 'unedited' version demonstrates rambling, unfocused,
evasive, lacking-in-facts responses. I can't believe that you don't see
that.
>
>> but the rest of your post, in which you call ME names, borders on
>> the absurd and reduces your credibility to close to zero.
>
> The entire attack dog media frenzy on Palin is the true absurdity, did
> you find a bit coming right back at YOU to be equally unsettling?
>
> Good.
>
> So it was designed to be.
>
the media's approach to Palin. I'm beginning to see why you're a supporter.
>
>> A VP candidate should know what "the surge" is, what the Bush
>> Doctrine is,
>
> Why?
>
course, we shouldn't expect a VP candidate to know her OWN PARTY'S
PRESIDENTS policies and position. Ak her if she knows what the Monroe
Doctrine is. I'll bet you personally that she doesn't, or at least can't
express it coherently.
>
> The man who coined the term, wasccolumnist Charles Krauthammer:
>
> http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/wire/david_hinz/2008/09/13/the_bush_doctrine_ask_the_man_who_coined_the_phrase_charles_krauthammer
>
>
>
> Palin is not running as BUSH's VP though is she?
>
> Of course not.
>
> What is important is what she and McCain think, not what Bush does.
>
> Grow a fucking brain.
>
branch nominee does not need to know the policies the current leader of her
own party, and the current President of the U.S., has established and
endorses? Are you asserting that a parties new ticket does not run as an
extension of its party's last encumbent? What? The slate is wiped clean and
they just start over again?
>
>> that Alaska's proximity to an outlying part of Russia does not
>> constitute "foreign policy experience",
>
>
> http://www.japantoday.com/category/world/view/palin-defends-alaska-russia-remark
>
> foreign policy experience, Palin said, �Well, it certainly does
> because our ... our next-door neighbors are foreign countries.�
> Alaska shares a border with Canada.
>
>
[snipped for brevity]
>>
>> that Russian planes flying into Alaskan
>> airspace does not constitute "military defense experience",
>
>
> Do tell...
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/11/world/main3819788.shtml
>
> (AP) U.S. fighter planes intercepted two Russian bombers, including
> one that buzzed an American aircraft carrier in the western Pacific
> during the weekend, The Associated Press has learned.
>
National Guard AF to intercept these planes or was this handled by
Washington? Was she even comnsulted on the issue?
>
[brevity snip]
>
>
>> and should be
>> able to name ONE newspaper or magazine that she reads for news
>> information.
>
> She reads numerous ones, why is any given name important?
>
all of the ones put in front of her. Another vague, cover-up response. Just
name two and you're out of the woods. But she couldn't say "Time Magazine"
and "The Washington Post" for example.
>
>> I need to grow a brain? Yeah, I see.
>
> You need to quit reading from the DNC script and then pretending
> otherwise.
> That's trite, easily spotted, and manifestly HYPOCRITICAL.
>
> Now you've been outed, enjoy!
>
>
>> Perhaps YOU should have some standards
>> for your VP choice other than that you'd like to f__k her.
>
> There we go, the famous libDem foul mouth and hatred for women
> emerges.
national politics. I don't vote in national politics by party line. It has
become evident that McCain chose her in order to have an appeal to women
voters and as a balance to his age. They did not even vette her carefully
and I believe they're sorry now. You can interpret it how you want.
>
> No wonder you assholes were so quick to ditch Hillary!
>
>
>> From the
>> supposedly edited interview portions that I saw, there was not one
>> question asked of her that I think she shouldn't have been able to
>> answer reasonably.
>
> You're bing fed shit and gladly eating it.
>
> Great if you're a mushroom, not so much for a human.
>
>> Even I could have answered them and I'm just a "fucking ignorant
>> assburp".
>
> Well at least we agree on what you are.
>
lost this debate as badly as I believe Palin will be trounced by Biden
tonight. Believe me, I'll be astoundingly surprised if she survives, let
alone 'wins'. I'll be looking for direct, fact-filled responses to the
questions. But I'll be expecting those circular, evasive, non-answers that
she's been giving. Make sure you watch so the media won't have a chance to
present you with their "edited" version. My bet is that Saturday Night Live
is going to have a hayday with her this Saturday coming...
anvil
You set the tone, stop whining when it came back in your hypocritical face.
>>> A VP candidate should know what "the surge" is, what the Bush
>>> Doctrine is,
>> Why?
>>
> Because it's current news.
It's OLD news.
> Because even I know it. And so do you.
Prior to Krauthammer's explanation, no I didn't.
That's really the point, given there are 4 versions of the "Bush doctrine".
> But, of
> course, we shouldn't expect a VP candidate to know her OWN PARTY'S
> PRESIDENTS policies and position.
It's not McCain's doctrine is it?
That's all that matters.
> Ak her if she knows what the Monroe
> Doctrine is. I'll bet you personally that she doesn't, or at least can't
> express it coherently.
Ask anyone if it has the slightest bearing on where the USA is heading?
No, it does not.
Enough political trivia, you transparent partisan hack.
>> The man who coined the term, wasccolumnist Charles Krauthammer:
>>
>> http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/wire/david_hinz/2008/09/13/the_bush_doctrine_ask_the_man_who_coined_the_phrase_charles_krauthammer
>>
>>
> [snipped extraneous].
Cowardly censor.
>> Palin is not running as BUSH's VP though is she?
>>
>> Of course not.
>>
>> What is important is what she and McCain think, not what Bush does.
>>
>> Grow a fucking brain.
>>
> You're asserting here in the written record that a Republican executive
> branch nominee does not need to know the policies the current leader of her
> own party, and the current President of the U.S., has established and
> endorses?
Precisely.
All the more so given there are admittedly 4 versions out there.
> Are you asserting that a parties new ticket does not run as an
> extension of its party's last encumbent? What? The slate is wiped clean and
> they just start over again?
Is Obama a Clinton clone?
Stop flailing, you look stupid and desperate.
>>> that Alaska's proximity to an outlying part of Russia does not
>>> constitute "foreign policy experience",
>>
>> http://www.japantoday.com/category/world/view/palin-defends-alaska-russia-remark
>>
>> When Couric asked how Alaska�s closeness to Russia enhanced her
>> foreign policy experience, Palin said, �Well, it certainly does
>> because our ... our next-door neighbors are foreign countries.�
>> Alaska shares a border with Canada.
>>
> And you don't find that to be an embarrasingly vague and naive response?
> [snipped for brevity]
Cowardly censor.
>>> that Russian planes flying into Alaskan
>>> airspace does not constitute "military defense experience",
>>
>> Do tell...
>>
>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/11/world/main3819788.shtml
>>
>> (AP) U.S. fighter planes intercepted two Russian bombers, including
>> one that buzzed an American aircraft carrier in the western Pacific
>> during the weekend, The Associated Press has learned.
>>
> And this establishes her credentials how?
She is briefed on and has to be in touch with relevant defense authorities.
> Did she send up the Alaskan
> National Guard AF to intercept these planes or was this handled by
> Washington? Was she even comnsulted on the issue?
> [brevity snip]
Cowardly censor.
>>
>>> and should be
>>> able to name ONE newspaper or magazine that she reads for news
>>> information.
>> She reads numerous ones, why is any given name important?
>>
> Because it was clear she doesn't read any.
No it surely was not, that is another lie.
> She said she reads them all, or
> all of the ones put in front of her.
Yes, typically the aides will provide a sampling of the dailies to any
sitting governor .
> Another vague, cover-up response. Just
> name two and you're out of the woods. But she couldn't say "Time Magazine"
> and "The Washington Post" for example.
And then be excoriated for her choices?
Why give the media the satisfaction of then being able to GRADE her choices.
You're foolish and easily outed as a party hack.
>>> I need to grow a brain? Yeah, I see.
>> You need to quit reading from the DNC script and then pretending
>> otherwise.
>> That's trite, easily spotted, and manifestly HYPOCRITICAL.
>>
>> Now you've been outed, enjoy!
>>
>>
>>> Perhaps YOU should have some standards
>>> for your VP choice other than that you'd like to f__k her.
>> There we go, the famous libDem foul mouth and hatred for women
>> emerges.
> Nope. I am neither that liberal nor do I consistently support Democrats in
> national politics.
Liar.
> I don't vote in national politics by party line.
Just talk it eh? because you're reading from the DNC script now, as
illustrated.
> It has
> become evident that McCain chose her in order to have an appeal to women
> voters and as a balance to his age.
Great move.
Women make up 1/2 the population and youth is a fine foil to age.
> They did not even vette her carefully
> and I believe they're sorry now. You can interpret it how you want.
I interpret it as the same guff that Sally Quinn spewed - she was livid
McCain didn't let the sainted MEDIA vett her first!
Oh yeah, that's what it has come to, the Kingmakers want their say on
EVERY choice made.
>> No wonder you assholes were so quick to ditch Hillary!
>>
> Obama's biggest mistake imho
And a telling glimpse at how dismissive the Dems have always been to the
minorities and out of power demographics they have hustled for votes.
>>> From the
>>> supposedly edited interview portions that I saw, there was not one
>>> question asked of her that I think she shouldn't have been able to
>>> answer reasonably.
>> You're bing fed shit and gladly eating it.
>>
>> Great if you're a mushroom, not so much for a human.
>>
>>> Even I could have answered them and I'm just a "fucking ignorant
>>> assburp".
>> Well at least we agree on what you are.
>>
> Yeah, you might.
I do.
> But the other readers of this thread are on my side.
Who, the other party hacks?
I see no one else chiming in.
> You've
> lost this debate as badly as I believe Palin will be trounced by Biden
> tonight.
I sustained all my points with factual references and exposed you as a
fraud and a hypocrite - your self-grading tactic is summarily rejected.
> Believe me, I'll be astoundingly surprised if she survives, let
> alone 'wins'. I'll be looking for direct, fact-filled responses to the
> questions.
More political trivia...yawn...
I'm looking for an annunciated vision for leading the nation - period.
> But I'll be expecting those circular, evasive, non-answers that
> she's been giving. Make sure you watch so the media won't have a chance to
> present you with their "edited" version.
But of course.
> My bet is that Saturday Night Live
> is going to have a hayday with her this Saturday coming...
There we have it, the self-anointed Kingmakers spinning their ire.
You should be shamed of yourself for legitimizing the total media
trivialization of and saturation of the political process.
But I suspect you're far beneath any capacity to feel shame at seeing
journalism tuned into infotainment.