Breast cancer mortality is 52 percent higher in Germany than in the United States
vict0r
Germany
Breast cancer mortality is 52 percent higher in Germany than in the United
States
---
Canada
Here's a cautionary tale from the Canadian Press a couple of weeks ago. The
incoming president of the Canadian Medical Association, Anne Doig, has
described the health system as in crisis. Canadians "have to understand that
the system that we have right now - if it keeps on going without change - is
not sustainable," she said. "We all agree that the system is imploding. We
all agree that things are more precarious than perhaps Canadians realize."
http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2009/sep/02/grass-isnt-greener-in-canada/
---
Massachusetts
Researchers point to Massachusetts, which passed a universal health care law
in 2006, as a real-world example of what can happen when a swath of the
population suddenly gains access to insurance and health care. A study by
the Massachusetts Medical Society found that 24 percent of residents
reported having difficulty getting the care they needed in 2008, up from 16
percent the previous year. Among the main reasons for the logjam: long waits
for an appointment. The same study found that the percentage of family
doctors who were no longer accepting new patients grew to 35 percent in 2008
from 25 percent in 2006
http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/05/who-will-care-for-the-newly-insured/
---
Maine
Want a preview of ObamaCare in action? Sneak a look at what has happened in
Maine. In 2003, the state to great fanfare enacted its own version of
universal health care. Democratic Governor John Baldacci signed the plan
into law with a bevy of familiar promises. By 2009, it would cover all of
Maine's approximately 128,000 uninsured citizens. System-wide controls on
hospital and physician costs would hold down insurance premiums. There would
be no tax increases. The program was going to provide insurance for everyone
and save businesses and patients money at the same time.
After five years, fiscal realities as brutal as the waves that crash along
Maine's famous coastline have hit the insurance plan. The system that was
supposed to save money has cost taxpayers $155 million and is still rising.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204619004574322401816501182.html
---
Tennessee
Democratic Gov. Ned McWherter introduced TennCare in early 1994 with an
initial budget of $2.6 billion. The Wall Street Journal reported this week
that TennCare proved so popular that the rolls swelled from 500,000 to 1.4
million by 2002.
Faced with fiscal disaster, in 2005 Gov. Phil Bredesen removed 170,000
people from TennCare. In addition, Roe and Blackburn wrote, "To pay the
TennCare bill, benefits were slashed and reimbursement rates for doctors and
hospitals were reduced. . Since they weren't being paid, fewer physicians
could afford to accept TennCare patients. So while a TennCare card
guaranteed you access to care, it did not guarantee the availability of
care."
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/aug/21/greg-johnson-tenncare-offers-america-health-care-r/
---
Hawaii
Hawaii just had a vivid lesson in health care economics, learning that if
you offer people insurance for free-surprise, surprise-they'll quickly drop
other coverage to enroll.
As a result, Hawaii has ended the only state universal children's
health-care program in the country ... after just seven months.
The program, called the Keiki (Child) Care Plan, was designed to provide
coverage to children whose parents can't afford private insurance but who
make too much money to qualify for other public programs, such as Medicaid
and Hawaii's State Children's Health Insurance Program. Keiki Care was free,
except for a $7 office-visit fee, for these "gap kids."
Leaving Private Plans
But then state officials found families were dropping private coverage to
enroll their children in the plan "People who were already able to afford
health care began to stop paying for it so they could get it for free," said
Dr. Kenny Fink of Hawaii's Department of Human Services.
http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results/24316/Hawaiis_Keiki_Crash_Offers_Lesson_for_All.html
---
Germany
Sick of Bad Pay, Doctors Flee Germany
German doctors are packing their scalpels and seeking their fortunes abroad,
lured by the prospect of far higher pay and driven away by stifling
bureaucracy in their country's health service.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,399537,00.html
Bad pay for doctors means less doctors, which means rationing and lines.
One of the primary cost drivers for Obamacare is doctor reimbursement cuts.
---
UK
Shortage of doctors a 'disaster' for NHS
GPs in crisis: Delegates warn of haemorrhage as recruitment falls
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/shortage-of-doctors-a-disaster-for-nhs-1338834.html
---
UK
Babies born in hospital corridors: Bed shortage forces 4,000 mothers to give
birth in lifts, offices and hospital toilets
---
UK
NHS maternity services in meltdown: A former midwife reveals how
understaffed wards are sinking into chaos
---
UK
Breast cancer mortality is 88 percent higher in the United Kingdom than the
US.
Prostate cancer mortality is 604 percent higher in the U.K. than the US.
---
Minnesota
The Minnesota Legislature's approach to health care reform -- and its great
mistake -- was to place enormous power in the hands of the Department of
Health and a newly created Health Care Commission. Rather than focusing on
the original problem of uninsured individuals, these newly empowered
bureaucracies, encouraged by the Legislature, set out to "fix" Minnesota's
entire health care delivery system. Though riddled with many flaws, one
fatal flaw stands out in the legislation: Its premises are built on a
foundation of poorly reasoned economic theory. Supposed solutions put forth
totally ignore:
a.. the basic economic importance of competitive pricing;
b.. the inefficient nature of the oligopolies and ologopsonies that the
act promotes;
c.. the critical imperative of risk-rating to a coherent insurance market;
d.. the futility of managing markets with outdated and imperfect
information;
e.. and the long history of failed attempts of top-down price controls.
http://www.americanexperiment.org/publications/1995/199506conantdowdchristenson.php
Werner
> ...
Nice report. Thanks. I'm keeping it.
vict0r
> In article
> <8ad8b53b-0a41-4aaa...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Here's the original source:
go nuts
jane
wrote:
> In article <qg7ki51m0uc7jmn97dmujb4q560nv3r...@4ax.com>,
>
> Mr.B1ack <b...@barrk.net> wrote:
> > "vict0r" <l...@oocom.netb> wrote:
>
> > >Germany
>
> > >Breast cancer mortality is 52 percent higher in Germany than in the United
> > >States
>
>
> Everybody has cancer. The question is whether you live long enough for that or
> something else to get you. Without knowing at what ages they're dying, the data
> is useless.
>
> Life has a 100% mortality rate.
>
> --
> Damn the living - It's a lovely life. I'm whoever you want me to be.
> Silver silverware - Where is the love? At least I can stay in character.
> Oval swimming pool - Where is the love? Annoying Usenet one post at a time.
> Damn the living - It's a lovely life. We support you, Sarah.
You obviously can't read, or are too lazy to check the study that the
poster provide.
The Concord is the most comprehensive world wide comparison of cancer
survival rates.
The mortality comparisons are comparisons of 5 year survivability
rates.
Jane.
Christopher Helms
> Germany
>
> Breast cancer mortality is 52 percent higher in Germany than in the United
> States
>
> http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649
>
> ---
>
> Canada
>
> Here's a cautionary tale from the Canadian Press a couple of weeks ago. The
> incoming president of the Canadian Medical Association, Anne Doig, has
> described the health system as in crisis. Canadians "have to understand that
> the system that we have right now - if it keeps on going without change - is
> not sustainable," she said. "We all agree that the system is imploding. We
> all agree that things are more precarious than perhaps Canadians realize."
>
>
> ---
>
> Massachusetts
>
> Researchers point to Massachusetts, which passed a universal health care law
> in 2006, as a real-world example of what can happen when a swath of the
> population suddenly gains access to insurance and health care. A study by
> the Massachusetts Medical Society found that 24 percent of residents
> reported having difficulty getting the care they needed in 2008, up from 16
> percent the previous year. Among the main reasons for the logjam: long waits
> for an appointment. The same study found that the percentage of family
> doctors who were no longer accepting new patients grew to 35 percent in 2008
> from 25 percent in 2006
>
>
> ---
>
> Maine
>
> Want a preview of ObamaCare in action? Sneak a look at what has happened in
> Maine. In 2003, the state to great fanfare enacted its own version of
> universal health care. Democratic Governor John Baldacci signed the plan
> into law with a bevy of familiar promises. By 2009, it would cover all of
> Maine's approximately 128,000 uninsured citizens. System-wide controls on
> hospital and physician costs would hold down insurance premiums. There would
> be no tax increases. The program was going to provide insurance for everyone
> and save businesses and patients money at the same time.
>
> After five years, fiscal realities as brutal as the waves that crash along
> Maine's famous coastline have hit the insurance plan. The system that was
> supposed to save money has cost taxpayers $155 million and is still rising.
>
>
> ---
>
> Tennessee
>
> Democratic Gov. Ned McWherter introduced TennCare in early 1994 with an
> initial budget of $2.6 billion. The Wall Street Journal reported this week
> that TennCare proved so popular that the rolls swelled from 500,000 to 1.4
> million by 2002.
>
> Faced with fiscal disaster, in 2005 Gov. Phil Bredesen removed 170,000
> people from TennCare. In addition, Roe and Blackburn wrote, "To pay the
> TennCare bill, benefits were slashed and reimbursement rates for doctors and
> hospitals were reduced. . Since they weren't being paid, fewer physicians
> could afford to accept TennCare patients. So while a TennCare card
> guaranteed you access to care, it did not guarantee the availability of
> care."
>
>
> ---
>
> Hawaii
>
> Hawaii just had a vivid lesson in health care economics, learning that if
> you offer people insurance for free-surprise, surprise-they'll quickly drop
> other coverage to enroll.
>
> As a result, Hawaii has ended the only state universal children's
> health-care program in the country ... after just seven months.
>
> The program, called the Keiki (Child) Care Plan, was designed to provide
> coverage to children whose parents can't afford private insurance but who
> make too much money to qualify for other public programs, such as Medicaid
> and Hawaii's State Children's Health Insurance Program. Keiki Care was free,
> except for a $7 office-visit fee, for these "gap kids."
>
> Leaving Private Plans
>
> But then state officials found families were dropping private coverage to
> enroll their children in the plan "People who were already able to afford
> health care began to stop paying for it so they could get it for free," said
> Dr. Kenny Fink of Hawaii's Department of Human Services.
>
>
> ---
>
> Germany
>
> Sick of Bad Pay, Doctors Flee Germany
>
> German doctors are packing their scalpels and seeking their fortunes abroad,
> lured by the prospect of far higher pay and driven away by stifling
> bureaucracy in their country's health service.
>
> http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,399537,00.html
>
> Bad pay for doctors means less doctors, which means rationing and lines.
> One of the primary cost drivers for Obamacare is doctor reimbursement cuts.
>
> ---
>
> UK
>
> Shortage of doctors a 'disaster' for NHS
> GPs in crisis: Delegates warn of haemorrhage as recruitment falls
>
>
> ---
>
> UK
>
> Babies born in hospital corridors: Bed shortage forces 4,000 mothers to give
> birth in lifts, offices and hospital toilets
>
>
> ---
>
> UK
>
> NHS maternity services in meltdown: A former midwife reveals how
> understaffed wards are sinking into chaos
>
>
> ---
>
> UK
>
> Breast cancer mortality is 88 percent higher in the United Kingdom than the
> US.
>
> Prostate cancer mortality is 604 percent higher in the U.K. than the US.
>
> http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649
>
> ---
>
> Minnesota
>
> The Minnesota Legislature's approach to health care reform -- and its great
> mistake -- was to place enormous power in the hands of the Department of
> Health and a newly created Health Care Commission. Rather than focusing on
> the original problem of uninsured individuals, these newly empowered
> bureaucracies, encouraged by the Legislature, set out to "fix" Minnesota's
> entire health care delivery system. Though riddled with many flaws, one
> fatal flaw stands out in the legislation: Its premises are built on a
> foundation of poorly reasoned economic theory. Supposed solutions put forth
> totally ignore:
>
> a.. the basic economic importance of competitive pricing;
> b.. the inefficient nature of the oligopolies and ologopsonies that the
> act promotes;
> c.. the critical imperative of risk-rating to a coherent insurance market;
> d.. the futility of managing markets with outdated and imperfect
> information;
> e.. and the long history of failed attempts of top-down price controls.
>
Oh, you can't trust that data. You can't trust any claim related to
health unless it comes from Virginia Fox or Steve Doocy.
cop welfare
>
> - Show quoted text -
"The mortality comparisons are comparisons of 5 year survivability
rates. "
something's wrong when they have to define what the cure is.
cancer is caused by western industrialisation.
liberal
I've scanned the report (admittedly not reading word-by-word). I did
not see a couple of critical points adressed: 1) differences in
treatment protocols, 2) whether diagnostic tests were denied to the
patient preventing early diagnosis and treatment, 3) whether patients
delayed seeing a physican until cancer was well advanced.
If you see those points addressed in the report, tell me which page
numbers to read.
Without such information, simple five year survival rates interesting
but not useful in judging health care systems.
cop welfare
>
> Breast cancer mortality is 52 percent higher in Germany than in the United
> States
>
> http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649
>
> ---
>
> Canada
>
> Here's a cautionary tale from the Canadian Press a couple of weeks ago. The
> incoming president of the Canadian Medical Association, Anne Doig, has
> described the health system as in crisis. Canadians "have to understand that
> the system that we have right now - if it keeps on going without change - is
> not sustainable," she said. "We all agree that the system is imploding. We
> all agree that things are more precarious than perhaps Canadians realize."
>
>
> ---
>
> Massachusetts
>
> Researchers point to Massachusetts, which passed a universal health care law
> in 2006, as a real-world example of what can happen when a swath of the
> population suddenly gains access to insurance and health care. A study by
> the Massachusetts Medical Society found that 24 percent of residents
> reported having difficulty getting the care they needed in 2008, up from 16
> percent the previous year. Among the main reasons for the logjam: long waits
> for an appointment. The same study found that the percentage of family
> doctors who were no longer accepting new patients grew to 35 percent in 2008
> from 25 percent in 2006
>
>
> ---
>
> Maine
>
> Want a preview of ObamaCare in action? Sneak a look at what has happened in
> Maine. In 2003, the state to great fanfare enacted its own version of
> universal health care. Democratic Governor John Baldacci signed the plan
> into law with a bevy of familiar promises. By 2009, it would cover all of
> Maine's approximately 128,000 uninsured citizens. System-wide controls on
> hospital and physician costs would hold down insurance premiums. There would
> be no tax increases. The program was going to provide insurance for everyone
> and save businesses and patients money at the same time.
>
> After five years, fiscal realities as brutal as the waves that crash along
> Maine's famous coastline have hit the insurance plan. The system that was
> supposed to save money has cost taxpayers $155 million and is still rising.
>
>
> ---
>
> Tennessee
>
> Democratic Gov. Ned McWherter introduced TennCare in early 1994 with an
> initial budget of $2.6 billion. The Wall Street Journal reported this week
> that TennCare proved so popular that the rolls swelled from 500,000 to 1.4
> million by 2002.
>
> Faced with fiscal disaster, in 2005 Gov. Phil Bredesen removed 170,000
> people from TennCare. In addition, Roe and Blackburn wrote, "To pay the
> TennCare bill, benefits were slashed and reimbursement rates for doctors and
> hospitals were reduced. . Since they weren't being paid, fewer physicians
> could afford to accept TennCare patients. So while a TennCare card
> guaranteed you access to care, it did not guarantee the availability of
> care."
>
>
> ---
>
> Hawaii
>
> Hawaii just had a vivid lesson in health care economics, learning that if
> you offer people insurance for free-surprise, surprise-they'll quickly drop
> other coverage to enroll.
>
> As a result, Hawaii has ended the only state universal children's
> health-care program in the country ... after just seven months.
>
> The program, called the Keiki (Child) Care Plan, was designed to provide
> coverage to children whose parents can't afford private insurance but who
> make too much money to qualify for other public programs, such as Medicaid
> and Hawaii's State Children's Health Insurance Program. Keiki Care was free,
> except for a $7 office-visit fee, for these "gap kids."
>
> Leaving Private Plans
>
> But then state officials found families were dropping private coverage to
> enroll their children in the plan "People who were already able to afford
> health care began to stop paying for it so they could get it for free," said
> Dr. Kenny Fink of Hawaii's Department of Human Services.
>
>
> ---
>
> Germany
>
> Sick of Bad Pay, Doctors Flee Germany
>
> German doctors are packing their scalpels and seeking their fortunes abroad,
> lured by the prospect of far higher pay and driven away by stifling
> bureaucracy in their country's health service.
>
> http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,399537,00.html
>
> Bad pay for doctors means less doctors, which means rationing and lines.
> One of the primary cost drivers for Obamacare is doctor reimbursement cuts.
>
> ---
>
> UK
>
> Shortage of doctors a 'disaster' for NHS
> GPs in crisis: Delegates warn of haemorrhage as recruitment falls
>
>
> ---
>
> UK
>
> Babies born in hospital corridors: Bed shortage forces 4,000 mothers to give
> birth in lifts, offices and hospital toilets
>
>
> ---
>
> UK
>
> NHS maternity services in meltdown: A former midwife reveals how
> understaffed wards are sinking into chaos
>
>
> ---
>
> UK
>
> Breast cancer mortality is 88 percent higher in the United Kingdom than the
> US.
>
> Prostate cancer mortality is 604 percent higher in the U.K. than the US.
>
> http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649
>
> ---
>
> Minnesota
>
> The Minnesota Legislature's approach to health care reform -- and its great
> mistake -- was to place enormous power in the hands of the Department of
> Health and a newly created Health Care Commission. Rather than focusing on
> the original problem of uninsured individuals, these newly empowered
> bureaucracies, encouraged by the Legislature, set out to "fix" Minnesota's
> entire health care delivery system. Though riddled with many flaws, one
> fatal flaw stands out in the legislation: Its premises are built on a
> foundation of poorly reasoned economic theory. Supposed solutions put forth
> totally ignore:
>
> a.. the basic economic importance of competitive pricing;
> b.. the inefficient nature of the oligopolies and ologopsonies that the
> act promotes;
> c.. the critical imperative of risk-rating to a coherent insurance market;
> d.. the futility of managing markets with outdated and imperfect
> information;
> e.. and the long history of failed attempts of top-down price controls.
>
=========================================================
a small comment at the bottom of the daily mail births/deliveries
anomalies story above.
"erm,, has no one done the maths? This is typical UK media whipping up
a stir....
there were 706,711 birth last year. If 4000 were unacceptable this
still only equates with .56% notice the decimal??
99.44% of births were fine
I was hoping, after the c**p the the US has been dishing out about our
NHS that people would actually try to see through these
"sensationalized" stories.
But no, who the h*ll would read a story saying "99.44% of births in
the UK are good"?
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE TRY TO READ THROUGH THE NUMBERS">
- James, Cornwall, england, 30/8/2009 22:29
Read more:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1209034/The-babies-born-hospital-corridors-Bed-shortage-forces-4-000-mothers-birth-lifts-offices-hospital-toilets.html#ixzz0a10rezBs
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cop welfare
>
> Past generations mostly didn't live long enough
> to get cancer.
>
> And, when they did, it was usually just grouped
> under the all-purpose umbrella of "consumption".- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
the charts i used to see with the cancer stats had "western
industrialised countries" in fine print at the bottom.
no comparison was made with unpolluted nations.
this seemed fraudulent to me.
is the ruhr valley only to be compared with new jersey?
picky picky.
"well, we have to be fair..."